Was Aries Spears Actually Wrong? Let's Be Honest.

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Let's slow down and look at what actually happened, because the outrage doesn't match the facts.

Aries Spears was asked his opinion. Not asked to write a hit piece. Not asked to disrespect anyone's legacy. Asked — directly, on the spot, by a host who knew exactly what kind of headline that question could generate — what he thought of Bernie Mac and Martin's brand of comedy.

And what did he actually say? He said he respected them. He acknowledged their greatness. He simply said their specific style of comedy wasn't for him, and that at times, Martin leaned into buffoonery. That's it. No insults. No disrespect. No trashing their legacy. Just an honest, qualified answer to a question he didn't ask to be asked.

So here's the real question nobody wants to sit with: Is the outrage actually about what he said — or about the fact that he said it at all?

Because if you strip away the noise, what you're left with is a man giving a nuanced, respectful opinion... and getting torched for it anyway. That's not accountability. That's punishment for having a preference.

Think about it this way: I don't get Aries Spears' comedy either. Never paid to see him. Skip his material when it comes on. Does that make me right? Does it make me wrong? No — it makes me someone with a taste in comedy that differs from his. That's all preference ever is. If I said that publicly, would I deserve to get dragged for it? Or would the honest answer be: "fair enough, comedy is subjective"?

That's the standard we'd apply to anyone else. Why does it disappear the second the name changes?

And let's talk about the host for a second, because they don't get a pass here either. Loaded questions aren't asked by accident. When you ask a comedian to weigh in on two legends, in that format, on that platform, you know exactly what you're doing — you're not looking for insight, you're fishing for a soundbite that'll generate clicks and controversy. The host set the trap. Aries just answered honestly. Yet somehow he's the villain of the story?

Here's the uncomfortable truth: we say we value authenticity. We say we want people to speak their truth instead of giving safe, sanitized non-answers. But the second someone does exactly that — respectfully, without malice, without disrespect — we turn on them for not agreeing with the consensus.

That's not open-mindedness. That's an echo chamber wearing open-mindedness as a costume.

If we can't tolerate a respectful difference of opinion — one that was solicited, qualified, and delivered without an ounce of disrespect — then maybe we're not as tolerant, as enlightened, or as accepting of diverse perspectives as we like to believe. Real respect for others isn't just applauding when people agree with us. It's allowing space for people to disagree, especially when they've clearly done it with care.

So no — Aries Spears wasn't wrong. He was honest, respectful, and answering a question he didn't ask for. The only thing that was wrong here is how quickly we decided honesty deserves a pile-on.
 
Mayne, you wrote a bunch of nothing typing that novel.

Fazion Love and Aries spears have no leg to stand on but to sneak diss talking about 2 legends that neither of them can come close to touch being on their level.

I mean he could've said "next question" if it was all about respect by not answering that question at all.

Besides, why speak on a dead man who can't defend himself except martin.
 
Aries Spears has never been funny to me..... except for TWO times:


When he made fun of British rappers.





And when he made fun of 50 Cent trying to portray a computer tech.





Those were the only two times I laughed at Aries Spears.... but I DID laugh.
 
Mayne, you wrote a bunch of nothing typing that novel.

Fazion Love and Aries spears have no leg to stand on but to sneak diss talking about 2 legends that neither of them can come close to touch being on their level.

I mean he could've said "next question" if it was all about respect by not answering that question at all.

Besides, why speak on a dead man who can't defend himself except martin.

He can't dare say Martin was buffoonary after the shit he used to do on MadTV........

Don't get me wrong, a lot of it was funny...... however, mfkr you weren't performing Carlin level comedy.... so to dare call something "buffoonary" when you were playing "Pill" Cosby and bunny hopping in your underwear on national tv.....

Come on mayne
 
Mayne, you wrote a bunch of nothing typing that novel.

Fazion Love and Aries spears have no leg to stand on but to sneak diss talking about 2 legends that neither of them can come close to touch being on their level.

I mean he could've said "next question" if it was all about respect by not answering that question at all.

Besides, why speak on a dead man who can't defend himself except martin.
He could have just said Bernie and Martin are great but there are other comedians that I find funnier.
 
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Debra Wilson pulled his card and this interview really exposes his true feelings.....
He feels as though he is more talented than a lot of the famous/ big names, but he's envious because his pockets aren't anywhere close to theres.

Kevin Hart, Dave Chappelle...... Martin Lawrence....etc aren't beefing with Vlad over fees for interviews..... they don't want nor need his platform.


 
He can't dare say Martin was buffoonary after the shit he used to do on MadTV........

Don't get me wrong, a lot of it was funny...... however, mfkr you weren't performing Carlin level comedy.... so to dare call something "buffoonary" when you were playing "Pill" Cosby and bunny hopping in your underwear on national tv.....

Come on mayne
I remember that buffoonery video he did with having it edited of him kissing himself on some gay shit. He did a lot of fag shit back then.

Besides, spears wasn't funny at all. I never even laughed from his comedy.

I can name so much shit martin did that were funny compared to what spears did that weren't funny.

So, I can't rock with people who side with spears saying this dumb shit
 
Dude finally found his lane...which has lil to do with him actually bein funny..

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Opinions are like elbows and assholes. Damn near every body has one. I would not say his opinion is wrong or right. Albeit I don't agree with him. It's his opinion.
 
so i guess that fact that he has an opinion matters not as long as you have yours? You don't have to like, respect or support a person but if they are asked a question and they answer honestly, why is that an issue? not one person in this thread is focusing on the issue which was he stated an opinion, his own. Just like you are ok to state yours. Instead of mentioning AS receipts, what about how the question was framed? what about asking yourself why the question was even asked? Instead its attack AS (which im ok with) but nobody is asking why was this even a question that needed to be asked?
 
Aries Spears has never been funny to me..... except for TWO times:


When he made fun of British rappers.





And when he made fun of 50 Cent trying to portray a computer tech.





Those were the only two times I laughed at Aries Spears.... but I DID laugh.


after almost 35 years of "comedy"

he had MAD TV which aint streaming anywhere, a 4th stringer in Jerry Maguire, some of the best impressions we have EVER seen (that can also be done NEARLY as well by at least 5 other Black comedians INCLUDING Affion and Godfrey and Jay Pharoah ALL of whom are funnier and more successful but I digress) and Vlad interviews.

And not including kissing a man, shucking jiving cooning for Vlad and a pedophile sketch that went horribly wrong.

and all that is worth TWO LAUGHS.

Dios Mio
 
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I don't agree with the OP's view. First, most decent people were taught that if you can't say something positive, don't say anything at all. Second, the host didn't mention any specific names. Aries pulled Martin and Bernie out of his ass. He could have said "ya know there are always fellow comedians whose style doesn't move me but I'm not here to throw shade" and just kept it pushing. Defending an unsolicited negative opinion is giving license to be an asshole. That's never good. If you don't like someone's work just don't support it. Think about how deflated you'd feel if women you knew were telling you how unattractive you are. You'd be wondering why saying that was even necessary if you weren't trying to push up on them.
 
I don't agree with the OP's view. First, most decent people were taught that if you can't say something positive, don't say anything at all. Second, the host didn't mention any specific names. Aries pulled Martin and Bernie out of his ass. He could have said "ya know there are always fellow comedians whose style doesn't move me but I'm not here to throw shade" and just kept it pushing. Defending an unsolicited negative opinion is giving license to be an asshole. That's never good. If you don't like someone's work just don't support it. Think about how deflated you'd feel if women you knew were telling you how unattractive you are. You'd be wondering why saying that was even necessary if you weren't trying to push up on them.
ok....lets have a civilized discussion? My point of the thread was to challenge whether or not just AS deserve the smoke by stating an opinion. We all have them and in the context of the conversation, he was stating his opinion when ask a very specific question, was it a bad thing to share such opinion? why aren't we looking at the host just as hard for even asking such a loaded question? and to your point, its not just about saying something nice, it can also be about not asking some questions, you know gonna start some bs. As to how he chose to answer, i digress. why are we so quick to be the speech police. and it was not an unsolicited opinion, he was asked the question directly. Perhaps, the question was not something that should or needed to be asked or asked in the manner it was afterall, it was trully a loaded question designed to start some shit. I'm Not defending him other than defending a mans right to have his own opinion. nothing more or less. and if a woman hold such a low, contrary, fucked up opinion of me today, Id really would not give a fuck because I'd accept she's entitled to her opinion and keep it moving. Now when i was younger I'd be like "fuck that rat stink bitch, blah, blah". Today no so much.
 
Let's slow down and look at what actually happened, because the outrage doesn't match the facts.

Aries Spears was asked his opinion. Not asked to write a hit piece. Not asked to disrespect anyone's legacy. Asked — directly, on the spot, by a host who knew exactly what kind of headline that question could generate — what he thought of Bernie Mac and Martin's brand of comedy.

And what did he actually say? He said he respected them. He acknowledged their greatness. He simply said their specific style of comedy wasn't for him, and that at times, Martin leaned into buffoonery. That's it. No insults. No disrespect. No trashing their legacy. Just an honest, qualified answer to a question he didn't ask to be asked.

So here's the real question nobody wants to sit with: Is the outrage actually about what he said — or about the fact that he said it at all?

Because if you strip away the noise, what you're left with is a man giving a nuanced, respectful opinion... and getting torched for it anyway. That's not accountability. That's punishment for having a preference.

Think about it this way: I don't get Aries Spears' comedy either. Never paid to see him. Skip his material when it comes on. Does that make me right? Does it make me wrong? No — it makes me someone with a taste in comedy that differs from his. That's all preference ever is. If I said that publicly, would I deserve to get dragged for it? Or would the honest answer be: "fair enough, comedy is subjective"?

That's the standard we'd apply to anyone else. Why does it disappear the second the name changes?

And let's talk about the host for a second, because they don't get a pass here either. Loaded questions aren't asked by accident. When you ask a comedian to weigh in on two legends, in that format, on that platform, you know exactly what you're doing — you're not looking for insight, you're fishing for a soundbite that'll generate clicks and controversy. The host set the trap. Aries just answered honestly. Yet somehow he's the villain of the story?

Here's the uncomfortable truth: we say we value authenticity. We say we want people to speak their truth instead of giving safe, sanitized non-answers. But the second someone does exactly that — respectfully, without malice, without disrespect — we turn on them for not agreeing with the consensus.

That's not open-mindedness. That's an echo chamber wearing open-mindedness as a costume.

If we can't tolerate a respectful difference of opinion — one that was solicited, qualified, and delivered without an ounce of disrespect — then maybe we're not as tolerant, as enlightened, or as accepting of diverse perspectives as we like to believe. Real respect for others isn't just applauding when people agree with us. It's allowing space for people to disagree, especially when they've clearly done it with care.

So no — Aries Spears wasn't wrong. He was honest, respectful, and answering a question he didn't ask for. The only thing that was wrong here is how quickly we decided honesty deserves a pile-on.
Think about it you were smart enough to see it was a possible trap why wasn’t he smart enough to see it either.. easily could’ve said both those guys are some of the rare comedians that can do it all from standup, tv, and film and execute.. in some form of another each of these dudes made you laugh in each sector and I commend them on their skills, next question
 
Let's slow down and look at what actually happened, because the outrage doesn't match the facts.

Aries Spears was asked his opinion. Not asked to write a hit piece. Not asked to disrespect anyone's legacy. Asked — directly, on the spot, by a host who knew exactly what kind of headline that question could generate — what he thought of Bernie Mac and Martin's brand of comedy.

And what did he actually say? He said he respected them. He acknowledged their greatness. He simply said their specific style of comedy wasn't for him, and that at times, Martin leaned into buffoonery. That's it. No insults. No disrespect. No trashing their legacy. Just an honest, qualified answer to a question he didn't ask to be asked.

So here's the real question nobody wants to sit with: Is the outrage actually about what he said — or about the fact that he said it at all?

Because if you strip away the noise, what you're left with is a man giving a nuanced, respectful opinion... and getting torched for it anyway. That's not accountability. That's punishment for having a preference.

Think about it this way: I don't get Aries Spears' comedy either. Never paid to see him. Skip his material when it comes on. Does that make me right? Does it make me wrong? No — it makes me someone with a taste in comedy that differs from his. That's all preference ever is. If I said that publicly, would I deserve to get dragged for it? Or would the honest answer be: "fair enough, comedy is subjective"?

That's the standard we'd apply to anyone else. Why does it disappear the second the name changes?

And let's talk about the host for a second, because they don't get a pass here either. Loaded questions aren't asked by accident. When you ask a comedian to weigh in on two legends, in that format, on that platform, you know exactly what you're doing — you're not looking for insight, you're fishing for a soundbite that'll generate clicks and controversy. The host set the trap. Aries just answered honestly. Yet somehow he's the villain of the story?

Here's the uncomfortable truth: we say we value authenticity. We say we want people to speak their truth instead of giving safe, sanitized non-answers. But the second someone does exactly that — respectfully, without malice, without disrespect — we turn on them for not agreeing with the consensus.

That's not open-mindedness. That's an echo chamber wearing open-mindedness as a costume.

If we can't tolerate a respectful difference of opinion — one that was solicited, qualified, and delivered without an ounce of disrespect — then maybe we're not as tolerant, as enlightened, or as accepting of diverse perspectives as we like to believe. Real respect for others isn't just applauding when people agree with us. It's allowing space for people to disagree, especially when they've clearly done it with care.

So no — Aries Spears wasn't wrong. He was honest, respectful, and answering a question he didn't ask for. The only thing that was wrong here is how quickly we decided honesty deserves a pile-on.
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"Yep.
Thank you OP!!!!
Finally someone here had the guts to come out and say it.
That's EXACTLY how I feel about what Aries Spears said about Bernie Mac & Martin Lawrence.
Blacks are always in their feelings about me just for expressing MY OPINIONS.

I simply don't understand the outrage..."
:rolleyes:
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"Yep.
Thank you OP!!!!
Finally someone here had the guts to come out and say it.
That's EXACTLY how I feel about what Aries Spears said about Bernie Mac & Martin Lawrence.
Blacks are always in their feelings about me just for expressing MY OPINIONS.

I simply don't understand the outrage..."
:rolleyes:
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Fam.. whats up with the Tim Scott joint? what am im missing. I'm not representing him, his opinion, or thoughts anyway or shape. In fact Fuck Time Scott... i can't fuk with the Tim Scott picture yo.... respectfully.
 
Fam.. whats up with the Tim Scott joint? what am im missing. I'm not representing him, his opinion, or thoughts anyway or shape. In fact Fuck Time Scott... i can't fuk with the Tim Scott picture yo.... respectfully.

Tim scott got opinions too. Another dickhead to defend. LOL
 
Fam.. whats up with the Tim Scott joint? what am im missing. I'm not representing him, his opinion, or thoughts anyway or shape. In fact Fuck Time Scott... i can't fuk with the Tim Scott picture yo.... respectfully.
It's not about you repping Tim Scott.

It's about a well known Black person (in this case it's both Tim Scott & Aries Spears) expressing unfavorable "opinions" about Black people which the Black Community (in particular) find objectionable, hostile or downright offensive.

In your initial post; you essentially championed Aries Spears for his "honesty", and concluded it by chastising the Black Community for "piling on" him.

So, the Tim Scott comparison seems pretty dead-on and accurate to me...:dunno:
 
ok....lets have a civilized discussion? My point of the thread was to challenge whether or not just AS deserve the smoke by stating an opinion. We all have them and in the context of the conversation, he was stating his opinion when ask a very specific question, was it a bad thing to share such opinion? why aren't we looking at the host just as hard for even asking such a loaded question? and to your point, its not just about saying something nice, it can also be about not asking some questions, you know gonna start some bs. As to how he chose to answer, i digress. why are we so quick to be the speech police. and it was not an unsolicited opinion, he was asked the question directly. Perhaps, the question was not something that should or needed to be asked or asked in the manner it was afterall, it was trully a loaded question designed to start some shit. I'm Not defending him other than defending a mans right to have his own opinion. nothing more or less. and if a woman hold such a low, contrary, fucked up opinion of me today, Id really would not give a fuck because I'd accept she's entitled to her opinion and keep it moving. Now when i was younger I'd be like "fuck that rat stink bitch, blah, blah". Today no so much.
I definitely agree that the host was complicit in the fuckery but he gets a pass because his loaded question was not pointed. He absolutely kicked up dust but he didn't sling mud. There's a difference. And you're right everyone has the right to an opinion. We're not the speech police. The public's reaction to Aries Spears is just another "opinion". So now we've all expressed them. Its the same argument that's had about people getting mad when they're cancelled. Cancel culture is just everyone's right to have a response to something they don't like. Nothing wrong with it all. Aries didn't like Martin and Bernie and he said so. People didn't like what he said about Martin and Bernie and they said so. End of story.
 
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