that video was crazy...
that was some absolutely surreal shit...
i was up on 51st when all that went down...
that was some absolutely surreal shit...
i was up on 51st when all that went down...
****Warning***** Military Photos of the Twin Towers
- Thread starter Gemini
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...Brings Back Memories...
I was sitting in my Office on the 56th Floor of 2 World Trade Center when it all started.
It took 35+ minutes to descend those 56 floors after the second plane hit.
People were fainting in the Fire Stair because it was so Hot.
When we got to the Lobby, I didn't know where I was because of all the Smoke and Debris.
The Lobby Security Staff organized us and took people in small groups out of the Building using different exits.
I was almost a Block away when 2 World Trade Center collasped.
If not for Gods guidance and the assistance or the Lobby Security Staff, well, you know...
I'm certain they didn't make it and their story May Never be told...
Never shared this until Now...
I was sitting in my Office on the 56th Floor of 2 World Trade Center when it all started.
It took 35+ minutes to descend those 56 floors after the second plane hit.
People were fainting in the Fire Stair because it was so Hot.
When we got to the Lobby, I didn't know where I was because of all the Smoke and Debris.
The Lobby Security Staff organized us and took people in small groups out of the Building using different exits.
I was almost a Block away when 2 World Trade Center collasped.
If not for Gods guidance and the assistance or the Lobby Security Staff, well, you know...
I'm certain they didn't make it and their story May Never be told...
Never shared this until Now...
good post.
U THINK A 757 WOULD MAKE A LIL HOLE LIKE THAT. THAT SHIT LOOKS LIKE A FUKIN MISSLE HIT THAT MUTHUFUKA.
Right. And where is the impact from the wings?
They got sheared off.
I'm starting to think some of you guys never flew on a plane before (cramped, more leg room on a greyhound bus) or never had a window seat (flimsy wings be shaking like a MF).
Believe it or not, folks are getting heated about this whole thing. So much so that mainstream media is addressing the 9/11 truth movement in their news segments by trying to downplay the uproar that's getting lots of attention in the streets. Remember someone saying that the Revolution Will Not Be Televised? Well it's not. There are demonstration going on every day now.
None of that is proof guy
Everything you posted in those pictures are too small to be fragments of a Boeing 757 (especially the turbine engine)
try again.
wow
Man, Look at that hole, it looks to be about 12 ft. high and 15 ft. wide..
How big is the nose of a 757? Think about it man..
Also, are we to believe that the hole that's in the wall was made by a plane yet didn't sear the ground, but had enough velocity to punch a whole in that wall? Nothing on the right or the left side of the hole is damaged. It was a missile plain and simple.
Hey...not sure but does the Pentagon have trees near it?...just saw some trees around the wreckage.
That's easy, of course oil companies and defense contractors just like in most wars.....the key is the main agenda that they are pushing for I think everyone should what that is by now.
Good Question on the investigation, unfortunately I'm not an CIA Agent or in the Bush Click so I can't answer that one
As for as them getting rid of the scraps what were they gonna test for besides evidence of explosives going off? I saw it as there was a shit load of metal to get rid of and India & china having two of the biggest scrap metal industry in the world why not sell -most- of it to them.
Proof that a 757 hit the pentagon? Unless your blind and stupid theres plenty of "proof" including a countless number of witnesses.....iight heres a little something.
RB211 Wreckage..
Landing strut from the front nose....
Please don't tell me that a bunch of muthafuckas walked into the demolish building and randomly placing a few parts around.
or are you trying to say that the plane wasn't a commercial 757?
The question that I have is, was all this PLANNED and allowed? now if you can drop some knowledge on that it would be must appreciated.
here are some of my past posts talking about the attacks on the twin towers and Pentagon
smokedacane said:In Dennis Smith's book, "Report from Ground Zero" he writes about first account from a group of firefigher survivors. Lieutenant Mickey Croft of Engine Company Sixteen was around the second floor in Stairway B when the building began to collapse. He described the wind as being "fierce" and that it almost lifted his body. He notes that he had to hold on to his helmet so it wouldn't blow off. A downward wind would not have caused him to lose his helmet. In fact an EXPLOSION from ground level would cause him to lose his helmet, the pancake theory does not explain how his helmet would of came of in all the air would of come from above.
ALSO
Jim McLean from Engine 39 was between the 1st and 2nd floors when the building began to fall. He also described a "rush of air going up".
An upward wind would be consistent with the demolition model of collapse, in which demolition charges are pre-positioned on support structures in the building’s interior. Their triggering and explosive reaction would tend to consume oxygen within the structure, sucking more air inward from the stairwells, while forcibly ejecting solid matter outward.
ALSO more quotes from his book
eye witness acount said:
Additional facts regarding the collaspe of the twin towers
* The engineers who designed the building designed it to withstand impact by planes and fire.
* Building 7, which was not structurally damaged by aircraft, came down in a manner that matches the signature demolition model, complete with triggering squibs (outward explosions of support structures preceding the falling mass), and falling into its footprint. Slow motion video footage highlights these features.
* Towers 1 and 2 also fell in a manner consistent with demolition, and had numerous visible squibs preceding the falling mass. Bear in mind that a "tidy" and "safe" fall would not necessarily be the objective of individuals pulling off such a thing.
* Rate of speed of the fall is near that of free-fall, which contradicts the pancake model in which a delay must be expected due to conservation of momentum – one of the foundational Laws of Physics.
* The fine powder into which the building was converted during the collapse is consistent with the demolition model and its associated explosives. There would have been some pulverization in the pancake model, but not to the extent seen in this case.
* Molten iron in the wreckage, weeks after the collapse, is consistent with military-grade demolition charges, which chemicals continue to react with the metal long after the initial implosion event.
* Numerous eyewitnesses described hearing explosions not associated with the planes hitting the buildings.
* The wreckage from the towers was quickly shipped off for scrap, contrary to laws governing removal of items from a crime scene.
* WTC buildings 1,2 and 7 had undergone unannounced security evacuations in the days prior to Sept. 11. A concurrent power outage disabled security cameras. Explosives-sniffing dogs were called off as part of that evacuation procedure. Martin Bush, brother to the President, was involved with the security company involved in this process.
* It would take 10 men ten trips to place the necessary explosives to bring the towers down by demolition.
* The 911 Commission report says that there were no central support columns, which is a lie. The WTC had the most robust central support columns in the world at the time it was built, and was designed to be centrally supported.
smokedacane said:
Hundreds of people reported seeing a Boeing 757, a vastly smaller plane, and a missle hit the Pentagon. What contributes to this fluctuation of uncertainty among the eye witnesses. Why does it seem that they all SAW different things?????
The first satellite image shows the section of the building that was hit by the Boeing. In the image below, the second ring of the building is also visible. It is clear that the aircraft only hit the first ring. The four interior rings remain intact. They were only fire-damaged after the initial explosion.
Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour* only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?
Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?
The photograph above shows the lawn in front of the damaged building.
remember that the aircraft only hit the ground floor of the Pentagon's first ring. Can you find debris of a Boeing 757-200 in this photograph?
The photographs in Question 5 show representations of a Boeing 757-200 superimposed on the section of the building that was hit.
Can you explain what happened to the wings of the aircraft and why they caused no damage?
and if they did come off like mentioned, why aren't they seen in any of the photos?
did they disappear?
another post
smokedacane said:Pull up a chair
none of the passangers on both planes had any muslim names
Flight manifest from both of the planes that flew into the twin towers
North tower
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/A11pass.html
South tower
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/U175pass.html
Out of both flights only ONE person had any resemblence to an arabic name and he/she was from Isreal. IF a group of Saudis hijacked tha plane why is there only one person with an Arabic sounding name on both flights?????
The U.S. Government never did an OFFICIAL investigation into 9/11. Instead of studying the fragments from the collapsed twin towers, they quickly removed all evidence and it was never seen again (why on earth would you do this without studying the debris?????). The way in which the towers fell the Earth is questionable enough considering the Towers could withstand more heat than what the jet fuel was amitting. Not to mention the collapse of the towers looked like a well calculated demolition was occuring.
Stardust Hotel implosion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDbiIx5ZYw&mode=related&search=
Towers coming down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atSd7mxgsGY
No evidence of a Boeing 757 ever crashing into the Pentagon has ever been verified as truth. Even better everyone who had a camera had it taken and all the surveilance footage near the pentagon was confiscated and never seen again. The pictures of the pentagon after the attack DON"T SHOW EVIDENCE of a plane of any kind (especially the size of a Boeing 757) lodged within the Pentagon. Even the most the most decorated pilot in the world couldn't manage a plane of that size while flying at Moc 10 speed and be able to navigate a plane so close to the ground without the plain going into tailspin. It is UTTERLY impossible for any pilot to maintain control of a plane that close to the ground and hit a target with that much precision.
Does that look like a Boeing 757 flew into the side of the Pentagon?!!??!!??!?!?!
WHERE IS THE PLANE???????????
If anything it looks like a MISSLE or BOMB was the cause of the damage to the Pentagon. A plane the size of a Boeing 757 would of caused alot more damage.
Just in case you don't know what a Boeing airplane looks like or how BIG it is her is a pic
Boeing airplanes are usually 134 feet long and 124 feet wide
So you're telling me this big ass plane left SO LITTLE damage to the Pentagon, considering if a plane of that size did crash into the pentagon I would expect it to be ALOT more worse than the photos show.
like you mentioned, Fire fighters who were in the twin towers claimed to have heard bombs going off as if a demolition team was taking down a building
http://www.letsroll911.org/discussion_in_firehouse.mpg
I guess the firefighters are lying too
The black boxes from both planes have never been released to the public
This is common knowledge, I mean if you have been privilaged enough to view this info let the rest of the world know because NOBODY knows what happened to the boxes (well the american public doesn't)
Airlane planes have the ability to be controlled by remote control (thanks to NORAD) and the turn needed to be made in order to rerout towards new york occured at 10gs and even the most skilled pilot on the planet can't make that turn. Now if a skilled pilot with years and years of experiance can't make this turn how did a few men with limited experiance were able to do this without crashing the plane before reaching the towers?
http://www.flightglobal.com/article...r-hijacked.html
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, why was one of the supposed hi jackers of one of the planes was seen alive and well on a security camera in another country?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mi...ast/1559151.stm
Also ground traffic control monitors each flight in or around the country and even though they saw this taking place on their monitors they did nothing????????????........it is protocal if a plane goes of course that the pilot has to verify what is going on and if the plane continues to go of course planes are dispatched into the air to see what is going on. NONE OF THIS OCCURED.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/04/19/norad.exercise/
Norad didn't exercise proper procedures, and for some reason only knew the plane was hijacked after it had already crashed...........how nice
and what is most telling is that the Government is in possession of the only "OFFICIAL" video of the plane supposedly crashing into the Pentagon (from the video cameras stationed around the pentagon). Why won't they release it? It would make sense considering it would quite the "conspiracy theorist" and doubters.......but they won't release the tapes.
another
smokedacane said:the turbine jet engine that was recovered in the Pentagon "crash" was twice as small as a regulation Boeing 757........wake up!
This is the engine that was recovered from the wreckage
Look how small that shit is
Compared to a real Boeing 757 jet engine
Notice how the Jet Engine of a "real" Boeing 757 is bigger than a damn human!!!
Here is a post by supergenius with the vid of the security camera capturing NOTHING crashing into the Pentagon.
SuperGenius said:Yinyang my homie, I'm going to help you support your argument that it WAS a Boieng 757..... Now these videos are showing what
took place right before the plane (I mean alledge Boeing 757) crashed. Was it a Boeing 757?
Video 1.....check at the 1:26 and 1:27 mark and tell me do you see a BIG BOEING 757?
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/P5FtRZP8dSI[/flash]
Video 2: The same footage from a different angle....check at the :26 second mark
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/XIpmCNSQ6-A[/flash]
What about Flight 93 you say?.....this is what was reported as to what really happend to that flight as opposed to it crashing down in Shanksville, PA.
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/sueAQB3fjqo[/flash]
[flash]http://www.youtube.com/v/PoWCIFmlSgg[/flash]
A BIT OF INFO NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT
smokedacane said:
more later....
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U THINK A 757 WOULD MAKE A LIL HOLE LIKE THAT. THAT SHIT LOOKS LIKE A FUKIN MISSLE HIT THAT MUTHUFUKA.
That supposedly is a picture of an inner wall of the Pentagon, not an outer wall (hence the no parking sign)... supposedly the last wall impacted by whatever hit the building... so it is natural that it would should the smallest impact..
I could not see the pics, what did I miss?
cry for what ?
at this point all the crying and being scared needs to stop.
get angry
and i say get angry because usually when people get angry, thats usually when they take action.
ok. i'll bite. why should bush and his cabinet be brought up on charges? being a dumb azz isn't a criminal offense
........
I'm not even going to give this an intelligent answer
so I will just post pics of bling bling
Wow, thanks Dick Tracey. Now would you like to share where you got your investigative report of there being no traces or evidence of explosives in the buildings? Or perhaps you would like to explain what you've learned concerning the very real evidence of the massive amounts of THERMITE found and documented by witnesses.
God damn those were some serious photo's were something else people jumping from the buildings and everything all those folks hanging out the windows are dead now..This is sad man...Thanks for posting these...
That is the Punch out hole.
Man, Look at that hole, it looks to be about 12 ft. high and 15 ft. wide..
How big is the nose of a 757? Think about it man..
Go here then, dumbass.
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757family/technical.html
The external width of the cabin/passenger area of a 757 is 12' 4".
Niggas and flies.
First of all the Rolls Royce engine without all of it out casing, is not very big at all. Heres the pictures from a RB211:
The part that you see on the ground in that picture @ the crash site is part of the compressor.
My question AGAIN, what do you think hit the pentagon if it wasn't a plane.....a missile(
)? and where did the real flight 77 go along with it's passengers?I'm not going to comment on what people think they saw, because people see different things especially during times like that, you probably even have a few people saying they saw a UFO. So only thing I can talk about is the hard -evidence- that's in the pictures the rest is speculation.
I'm aware of the -melting- points of steel but steel doesn't need to be melted to lose it's strength. If you take a piece of steel and heat it up to around 1100(d) it will deform. How you think blacksmiths do their work? how about horseshoes. =X
The heat capacity of those steel beams is more important than the temperature.
don't need a rocket scientist for that one. the wings don't carry as much mass as the main fuselage, thus the reason why in most building plane crashes where you would -expect- to see wing damage you only see scorch marks from the fuel basically disintegrating into little pieces.
Planes are made of light weight aluminum & the wings are not design to go through reinforced walls. Do some research on Aerodynamics & Aviation Design.....my uncle is a Air Force Corporal & Pilot I've heard enough in that area to have a little common sense on these things.
That picture is waaaay after the fire and after the building collapse....Wheres the plane?
All over the place in pieces, but most of the -outside- debris in that picture was removed as you can see the clean up crew in effect.
That's is what I would like to know also.
How could they have found thermite at ground zero? thermite is an incendiary agent(explosive)?
Perhaps you might want to be clearer in what you found?
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Damn this vid hit me hard.
DreDee you didn't even touch upon the most important parts of my post.....
no planer theorist are delusional beyond belief, but it doesn't even matter anymore because the REAL objective is almost complete.
Important parts of your post? I must have missed it because the only important part of your post was Training Exercises and the fact that is seemed as if there was prior knowledge of the attacks. The rest of it was the same bullshit questions that have been asked for the past 6 years and answered in more ways than one. Now as I said, no disrespect but you can play sheep and follow these conspiracy's if you want, but for fuck sake quit spreading disinformation as truth.
Guess you didn't get the memo about that Purple Pill.
There are few words to express the pain that you feel listening to him lose hope.
The 911 operator I feel for because really what could they do. Probably one of the toughest things one can do.
Damn.... Thats Sad
no planer theorist are delusional beyond belief, but it doesn't even matter anymore because the REAL objective is almost complete.
Important parts of your post? I must have missed it because the only important part of your post was Training Exercises and the fact that is seemed as if there was prior knowledge of the attacks. The rest of it was the same bullshit questions that have been asked for the past 6 years and answered in more ways than one.
And in which ways have these "bullshit questions" been answered in more ways than one? Which of those explanations have been proven wrong more ways than one. Can you actually provide examples because these theories you have brought fourth have been thrown out as incorrect MANY times.
There has been no adequate explanations for why fire fighters felt explosions coming from beneath them, not from above where plane hit both the towers. Which is indicative of a planned demolition and not the result of collisions from aircraft.
I didn't even go into WTC 7, and there is nothing you can provide that would offer a plausible explanation as to why that building fell. And don't come at me with it was taken down because it took tremendous damage because it didn't. And it takes weeks of planning in order to bring a building down, you can't do it within an hour.
dre said:
And what makes your version of the "truth" any more reasonable than mine when the theories you presented have been proven wrong more ways than one????
Do you see the dilemma here?
Again I ask you
WHAT EXACTLY FROM ANYTHING I HAVE MENTIONED HAS BEEN EXPLAINED MORE WAYS THAN ONE?
I'm unclear on which topics you're referring too
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Alright man it was fun but, I'm through with this topic. Explosives were planned and planted days before to bring down the buildings. A missile with a landing gear & rolls royce engine hit the pentagon. Elvis & Tupac are still alive....last but not least.......Allahu akbar
Alright man it was fun but, I'm through with this topic. Explosives were planned and planted days before to bring down the buildings. A missile with a landing gear & rolls royce engine hit the pentagon. Elvis & Tupac are still alive....last but not least.......Allahu akbar
You're not through, you concede
While I have actually read your post, thought about them, and offered an alternative theory disputing it. You on the other hand have argued me instead of the point and dismissed my information as conspiracy theorist banter. Very objective of you....three claps for you
You didn't even try to prove your point. All you have managed to do was bring up theories that have been dis proven more ways than one, provided playground humor, and posted comic strips....
Just another lackluster eventful day for dredee
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