Want a Real Economic Stimulus and Jobs Plan? Forgive Student Loan Debt!

Please contact your state's elected officials so that they can support and sponser H. Res 365, introduced by Rep. Hansen Clarke (D-MI), seeking student loan forgiveness as a means of economic stimulus.

The below link will allow one to contact their states elected officials. The drop down box in the site allows one to choose their specific state:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=NY
 
Please contact your state's elected officials so that they can support and sponser H. Res 365, introduced by Rep. Hansen Clarke (D-MI), seeking student loan forgiveness as a means of economic stimulus.

The below link will allow one to contact their states elected officials. The drop down box in the site allows one to choose their specific state:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=NY

Change begins with our collective action!
 
Please contact your state's elected officials so that they can support and sponser H. Res 365, introduced by Rep. Hansen Clarke (D-MI), seeking student loan forgiveness as a means of economic stimulus.

The below link will allow one to contact their states elected officials. The drop down box in the site allows one to choose their specific state:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/findyourreps.xpd?state=NY

Change begins with our collective action!
 
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http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

Thank you for signing the petition to Forgive Student Loan Debt as a Means of Economic Stimulus! Thanks to so many people sharing, posting, emailing and tweeting, as well as MoveOn.org's promotion of the petition, nearly 400,000 people have signed it! There's absolutely no doubt that we're making waves and getting noticed, but this campaign is really just beginning. There's more work to be done!

Today, I'm asking you to take a few moments of your time to remind those who purport to represent us in Washington that we truly care about this issue and that we're not going away!

Therefore, I'm asking everyone to please call your Senators and Representatives in Congress TODAY and ask them to support H.Res 365 and the efforts of Rep. Hansen Clarke with respect to student loan forgiveness.

Signing a petition is one thing, but flooding the Congressional switchboard with calls from every state in the nation and from all political stripes and backgrounds is quite another. It's extremely important to remind Congress that there's a human being behind every single one of the nearly 400,000 signatures we've obtained thus far, and that every single one of them is truly suffering under the weight of their student loan debts, preventing them from spending, starting businesses or families and buying homes - the very things we need middle-class and working-class Americans doing right now to help re-build the economy that was nearly destroyed 3 years ago.

To quickly and easily find out who your Senators and Representatives are and to obtain their D.C. office telephone numbers, please click here.
http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

Then, simply type in your address and/or zip code and 3 names should immediately pop up - your state's two Senators, as well as your Member of Congress. Call all three at their D.C. offices today and implore them to listen to the voices of the American people who are speaking up loudly on the issue of crushing student loan debt.
To whatever extent possible, please try to stick with calling their Washington, D.C. offices so as to make the greatest impact possible. If we can jam up the Congressional phone lines - all the better!
Thanks again for all of your help in making this petition such a huge success! Let's keep the momentum building!

Sincerely,

Rob Applebaum, Esq.
Founder, ForgiveStudentLoanDebt.com
 
The students have started their movement called OCCUPY COLLEGES!

http://occupycolleges.org/?page_id=164

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/10/05/141071655/occupy-wall-street-college-students-urged-to-walk-out-today

Occupy Wall Street: College Students Urged To Walk Out Today

As the Occupy Wall Street protests enter their 19th day and continue to spread well beyond lower Manhattan, there's word from the related "Occupy Colleges" movement that a "nationwide college student walk out" has been called for noon today.

Right now (8 a.m. ET) the website lists 75 colleges where walkouts are expected to happen. The reference to noon is to the local time at each school, the website indicates.

Meanwhile, on Morning Edition today, Planet Money's Zoe Chace reported from the protest site in Manhattan that it appears "everybody has a say in everything" in the general assembly that makes decisions about what the Occupy folks, who represent many different interests, will do.

There's wonderful audio in her piece of the protesters — who aren't being allowed by authorities to use amplifiers or bullhorns — chanting to pass along what's being said from one group at the general assembly to another.

"We have people speak, everyone votes on it and we come to an agreement. And that's how we want society to be," says Occupy's "head of communications, Brian Phillips.

"It's really, really, direct democracy," Zoe reports.

There's also word today from The Associated Press that "in lower Manhattan where it all began, the ranks of the protesters are expected to swell with reinforcements, widening the scope of the ongoing demonstrations. Among those planning to join the demonstrations today are the liberal group MoveOn.org and various community organizations. Camille Rivera, the executive director of United NY, says the protesters are 'capturing a feel of disempowerment, feeling like nobody is listening to them.' "

There's a 4:30 p.m. ET march planned from Manhattan's Foley Square to the financial district.
 
The PEOPLE UNITED will NEVER be defeated!

Just a friendly reminder that tomorrow, Saturday October 15th, is the Forgive Student Loan Debt National Day of Action where I'm asking anyone and everyone concerned with the issue of exorbitant student loan debt to join up with their local #Occupy protests happening all across the country and to make your voices heard!

To find your local #Occupy protests, please click here:

www.occupywallstreetevents.com

For signs and posters related to student loan debt that you can download, print and bring with you, please click here:

http://www.forgivestudentloandebt.com/content/occupyforgivestudentloandebt-signs-posters

Feel free to make your own signs and posters as well, but be sure to do something visual and creative to demonstrate how nearly $1 TRILLION in outstanding student loan debt is absolutely crushing the economy for "the other 99%."

Have fun. . .be safe, respectful and informative. . .but please use this unique moment in history to make your voices heard!

Sincerely,

Robert Applebaum,
Founder, ForgiveStudentLoanDebt.com
 
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/20/student_loan_debts_crush_an_entire_generation/


Thursday, Oct 20, 2011 7:45 AM EST
Student loan debts crush an entire generation
Hyped like subprime mortgages, school loans now run to hundreds of billions with no relief in sight
By Alex Pareene


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USA Today says that at some point this year, student loan debt will exceed $1 billion, surpassing even credit card debt. Felix Salmon says the number is closer to $550 billion. Either way total student loan debt is rising as other debts have tailed off. Delinquency has increased, too, since the height of the financial crisis.

It’s a huge mess.

Some people have noticed that “student loan debt” comes up a lot among the Wall Street Occupiers and the members of the 99 percent movement. Often, older people, who either attended school when tuition was reasonable, or who didn’t attend college at all in an era when a high school diploma was enough of a qualification for a stable, middle-class career, tend to think this is all the entitled whining of spoiled kids. They don’t understand that these kids accepted a home mortgage worth of debt before they ever even had a regular income, based on phony promises, and that the debt is inescapable, regardless of life circumstances or ability to pay.

Thanks to the horrific 2005 bankruptcy bill, one of the most nakedly venal modern examples of Congress serving the interests of the rentiers and creditors over the vast majority, debtors cannot discharge student loans through bankruptcy. The government is shielded from the risk, and creditors are licensed to collect by almost any means they deem necessary, giving no one in charge any real incentive (beyond basic human decency) to fix the situation.

In other words, this is unprecedentedly awful for an entire generation of young people just entering adulthood.

“It’s going to create a generation of wage slavery,” says Nick Pardini, a Villanova University graduate student in finance who has warned on a blog for investors that student loans are the next credit bubble — with borrowers, rather than lenders, as the losers.

Even if by some miracle our unemployed and underemployed debt-laden graduates all win decent jobs tomorrow, the money they make will go into paying off these now-delinquent loans instead of anything productive for the economy as a whole. Banks will continue to see massive profits, in other words.

The impossibility of escaping student loan debt is why an industry sprang up to foist useless, overpriced degrees on vulnerable people. It’s a scam, but a profitable one, and respectable enough for major establishment players to feel comfortable making a killing on it.

Like, for instance, Kaplan University, a chain of for-profit colleges built on winning free government student aid money and attracting suckers to borrow small fortunes.

The crooks are shameless. The Fiscal Times asked a bunch of predictable brain-dead airport bookstore luminaries (Dr. Oz! Mort Zuckerman!) to share one idea to “solve our fiscal crisis.” Here’s my favorite entry:

If I could do one thing, it would be to ensure the future of for-profit education companies, which this administration seems bent on eliminating. The Washington Post Company has struggled hard to be a good and decent company, but our for-profit education division is under fire by the administration, as are other for-profit education companies like Apollo and Strayer. (Full disclosure: I and my family have an ownership interest in WPO.) The majority of students in for-profit education companies are minorities, which makes you wonder how shutting down these companies will help achieve the president’s goal of having more college graduates in the U.S.

This wisdom comes from Lally Weymouth, “Senior Associate Editor” at the Washington Post and also part owner of the Washington Post Co., owner of for-profit college company Kaplan, the exploitative education corporation that subsidizes the money-losing newspaper. Lally’s idea for solving America’s “fiscal crisis” is to allow her to continue enriching herself by burying already poor people in paralyzing debt.

But, of course, she’s only doing it to help those poor creatures who otherwise couldn’t attend schools! If she happens to make a killing doing so, then the market is working its magic, I guess. This is the same argument used by exploitative payday lenders — loan sharks in ghettos — to justify predatory lending habits targeted at impoverished and vulnerable communities. Only it’s coming from one of the most respectable members of Washington’s elite, and not the proprietor of a check-cashing joint.

Of course, you know an industry is generally bad for the world as a whole once Goldman Sachs gets into it. Goldman bought part of predatory for-profit college chain EDMC in 2006, and it’s already made a killing driving random people into crushing debt. EDMC uses sales tactics taken directly from subprime mortgage hustlers to find and retain customers.

But employees recounted a distinct culture shift once the company went private under Goldman Sachs and the other private equity investors, as day-to-day operations warped from a commitment to students and their success into an environment laser-focused on hitting mandated enrollment targets. New recruits were viewed simply as a conduit for federal student assistance dollars, the employees said, and pressure mounted from management to enroll anyone at any cost.

So we have incredibly rich and powerful elite institutions joining forces to bleed youths and minorities and poor people dry. And people wonder why there’s marching in the streets.
 
Humble, who holds the bonds that funded the loans ? Should they have a say in any forgiveness scheme ?

Also, there may be significant pitfalls in making a debt uncollectable.

Just sayin'
 
Humble, who holds the bonds that funded the loans ? Should they have a say in any forgiveness scheme ?

Also, there may be significant pitfalls in making a debt uncollectable.

Just sayin'

Originally Posted by Fuckallyall View Post
I understand what you are saying, but two points:

1. The bonds that backed these loans need to be paid, and big investors, such as states and unions hold them. What happens to them.

2. Should there also be a ban on those forgiven from running up more student loans ? Seeing that they needed to be bailed out, what measures should be taken to make sure we don't just start up a new round of debt generation ?

You bring up some interesting questions brother. I don't know if I can answer them properly, but this is definitely a problem that our legislators should remedy, and you should reach out to your state's elected officials to get some answers. In any case, I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can.

1) The student loan issue is eerily similar to the sub prime mortgage debacle, where loans are given out to individuals who may not have the capacity to pay them back. However, the student loan issue is different, because these students are seeking an education to better themselves intellectually, socially, and economically as opposed to simply buying more house or land than one can afford. Consequently, the positive outcomes of educating these students will and does spill over into the general society and communities where many of these students come from, so this is an issue of investing into the human capital of this country.

The parallels between the sub prime and student loan issue is more evident as you laid out with your question about the bond holders of these student loans. There may have been rampant fraudulent activity with the securitization of student loans, similar to the fraud with the bundling of sub prime loans sold as triple A rated to investors, so a few questions should be raised regarding the potential of fraud in this issue.

Were student loans bundled and sold to investors such as pension funds, states, and unions as triple A securities? Additionally, if they were not sold as triple A investment instruments, then were the investors of these loans aware of the high risk potential of default– high risk/high reward–due to the fact that these are students who may not have the income potential to pay these loans back after graduation?

2) That question is more appropriate for a legislator to answer. There are many creative ways to solve this student loan issue. That is why I contacted my state's elected officials to support and sponsor H. Res 365, introduced by Rep. Hansen Clarke (D-MI), seeking student loan forgiveness as a means of economic stimulus. There are other ideas, and if you have any you should contact your elected leaders, so that this student loan issue can be remedied and solved.
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This is typical, it should not surprise anyone that this solution does not solve the problem

UNIVERSITIES HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO REIN IN COSTS! ! ! !
 
This is typical, it should not surprise anyone that this solution does not solve the problem

UNIVERSITIES HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO REIN IN COSTS! ! ! !

You're absolutely right! - it does not solve the problem of the rising cost of post secondary education, but then again, the President's measure was not meant to, promoted as or hyped as such a solution either. Your comment, then, is typical and should not surprise anyone, should it ?
 
Just think in 1970, the United States actually exported 2 million barrels of oil to other countries. Today, we pay for 12 million barrels and import that oil from other countries. Just think about how many jobs it creates in these other countries and the wealth. Plus you have the added costs of the military that have to occupy these regions and funds dictators nuclear programs.

The politicians need to get their act together, and figure out some way to reduce oil imports with some aggressive policies. Impose taxes on people that live a certain distance from their job, more mass transit spending, and heavily subsidizing plugins and hybrids.

No wonder the times were good back then...
 
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