Also jordan basically missed damn near his whole second season with a broken leg so of course the bulls didn’t do shit that yr.. so basically jordan had only 1 yr to get a chip without pippen.. the jordan facts people don’t want you to know
VIDEO: Pippen says Jordan wasn't shit before he arrived.
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Since cacs created the jordan never won without pippen.. I’ll say Kobe never won a chip without Derrick fisher.. now how many people actually think Derrick fisher made Kobe great? Yet Kobe has never won a ring without him
You never hear Jordan made Pippen whatever from Jordan fans cuz we don’t need to validate the GOAT
And Jordan and Pippen won with role players…role players don’t make the Hall
You mean his wizard yrs where in his first yr with them the team was in 5th place in the eastern conference after 62 games.. than jordan got injured for the remainder of the season and the team only won 3 out of the next 20 games which is why they didn’t make the playoffs? So you mean old man jordan made that much of a difference to a team? They were in the playoff hunt with him and completely collapsed without him. These are the jordan facts nobody likes to bring up.. so jordan took the bulls to the playoffs his rookie yr, than he got injured pretty much the whole second season and his team collapsed and missed the playoffs.. notice a pattern here?
Im now willing to bet that this Mj and Pip rivalry is nothing more but a publicity stunt along with everything else. It's hard for me to believe that Jordan, who came from a nuclear (moral based) family, would allow his son to date his former teammate's ex wife. As if that's not a bad look on both ends. So it's expected for Pippen to say what he's saying. Even he knows what he's saying is bullshit. But It's all for the purpose of click bate and keeping everyone stuck in time.
pip need to let this shit go....lol. everybody know the bulls wasn't shit before he joined mike. everybody know the bulls weren't shit when mike retired. scottie and mike made each other better. both in the hall of fame top 75 players. same number of chips. dude can be salty about the last dance, his ex wife getting knocked down. but us fans seen them on the court together and on new teams. come on scottie
I never engage clowns who try to give Pip more credit for Jordan's success than he deserves...Some of us were actually around and remember how trash the Bulls were when Mike got there. Most of these young cats and bronsexuals hug that Pippen narrative and have no idea how much bitchassery Mike had to go through with Scottie's punk ass. Jordan had to put the battery in that bitch ass niggas back. The Pistons and Knicks and the tougher teams of the era specifically targeted Scottie. Laimbeer elbowed him in gm 6 in 89 at the beginning of the game and Scottie was scared to go back in the game. The next year was the migraine game 7. You can't forget about Scottie refusing to go in the game vs the Knicks in '94 in the Eastern Conference Finals when Kukoc hit the game winner. Scottie is a lame, always has been a lame and always will be a lame. I left out many other examples of his bitchassness because it would be overkill...
He played with George Gervin who was in his final year. But yeah he had bums like Dave Corzine getting minutes when he was first in the league.
Nigga was 60 lbs of muscle mass heavier, and has years of professional athletic experience on pippen of course he was punking this string bean nigga.
Clickbait title. Pippen never said that.
Scottie believed he was the second coming because he played with "The One".
Replace Bird, Magic, Isiah, or Starks with Jordan on those teams.
What's the outcome?
Replace Bird, Magic, Isiah, or Starks with Jordan on those teams.
What's the outcome?
Scottie talking like he cooked up some Peruvian fish scale then beamed up. I bet he also rates himself as the best husband ever.
Fisher is no where near being a HOF. But Shaq and Pau Gasol are and Kobe ain’t win shit without them.
How many non HOF players did Jordan win with but I can name a few that Lebron won with.
How many playoff series Mike won without Scottie?
Bulls never made the ECF when Jordan left.
It's a team sport. All those players depend on each other. Pippen thinks he's Willie Beaman?
See these two comments contradict each other, one is saying Pippen got his credit so he shouldn't be mad and the other is saying Pippen wasn't shit so he didn't deserve any credit... lol
You never hear Jordan made Pippen whatever from Jordan fans cuz we don’t need to validate the GOAT
And Jordan and Pippen won with role players…role players don’t make the Hall
I hear it all the time from Jordan fans, they say Pippen is overrated and never would've been in the Hall of Fame or a Top 75 player if he hadn't played on Jordans team
WHO was Jordan playing with before Pippen developed?
All of the greats who were winning at that time had future top 50 players on their squads.
Once again, WHO did Jordan have?
Jordan did what any great player with a trash team does: Put up major numbers and win nothing of any significance.
The moment Jordan had any real semblance of help the Bulls started to trend upward.
What this meanDamn, playa.
Helluva way to put it, sir!
That is not impossible. No need to rewrite history. Pippen was not a blue chip prospect and he didn't exactly dominate when he first came into the league. His ascent was very gradual and it was long established playing with Jordan and learning how to work hard helped him developed that raw potential he had.
Now, listen, he had to put in the work to get there - but anyone claiming Scottie Pippen was on a HOF trajectory when he came into the league is a damn lie.
Some players have great tools and have to work hard to polish - no different than what Giannis and Kawhi did. If they don't work as hard as they did, they don't come close to achieving what they have.
Jordan was a force out of college. Bob Knight said he was the best basketball player he had ever seen and that was before he played his first NBA game.
Jordan played with lots of players who didn't become what Pippen did so for people to try and take away his accomplishments by saying "if he hadn't played with Jordan he never wouldve been this or that" isn't right either
Are you telling me that Scottie Pippen was going to be Scottie Pippen regardless?
That is not how sports work and that is not how life works.
I think people are saying the same but the meaning behind their ways aren't the same.
Some people are acting like Jordan made Scottie Pippen something he was not. In a sense, calling him a system player.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, Pippen was raw when he came out of college. The Bulls weren't even a great team and he didn't start at first.
There have been a lot of NBA players who had the tools to be great, who didn't become great, because they were guided properly and/or didn't have the work ethic to maximize their potential.
It is WELL DOCUMENTED that Scottie was pushed very hard by Jordan. I'm not even arguing Jordan is the only person he learned from, but Scottie talked about that shit years ago and it was well-documented through other sources.
If he went to another team, that didn't have anyone there to help him develop and push him - he could have been like countless other athletes: Unrealized potential.
Please stop it with this Jordan vs. Pippen debate. Shit is as goofy as a botched BBL's or a former whores claiming born again virgins . Any Bulls fan or; hell anybody that knows basketball, should recognize Pippen as a bitter clown. He’s just as bad as the people that use the tired ass argument that "Jordan didn’t win without Pippen." History teaches us that Pippen also didn’t win shit when Jordan. "No tipping Pippen" didn't win shit after Jordan left the first time, the second time or when he dipped to Houston or Portland to join loaded teams in both spots. Pippen no doubt is an all-time great, however, if the son of a man you despise is smashing your ex; I can see where delusion and nonsensical reasoning may come into play.
We don't know if Pippen would be PIPPEN but reading your comment you feel like he wouldn't PIPPEN. Like I said Jordan played with lots of players that never became as good as Pippen and he pushed them all so Pippens success had to be in him
Pippen was dope as shit. The Bulls and Jordan do not win shit without him. That is the truth. I was watching back then. Not just listening to the narrative these days, or watching the Last Dance. Pippen was an amazing defender. Amazing scorer. Arguably the best in game dunker in the league, and ran the Bulls offense on the court as the Point Forward. Do not get me wrong, I believe that Jordan is the GOAT, but Pippen was amazing. For many years in the mid/late 80s and earlry part of the 90sthe talk was will Jordan ever win a title? That is a fact.
Amazing scorer? The nig didn’t even score 20 points a game per season in 4 diff title runs
He only played 3 yrs b4 Scottie entered the league.. his rookie yr where he faced the dynasty Celtics ..the second yr he got injured for majority of the season and his team collapsed that yr
Kobe won 2 titles without shaq.. he won 3 titles without gasol.. Kobe didn’t win no rings without Derrick fisher.. never 4get Kobe 5 rings all were won with dereck fisher by his side.. why don’t people start saying this truth
Oh cause it sounds kinda stupid even though it’s true.. pretty much like this pippen jordan line
He actually said it was the team play not any individuals sole contribution, including mike
Pippen should take consolation in the fact that his son is an NBA player and both of Micheal Jordan's sons are trash. If not for Jordan's son fucking his ex-wife no one would care about the dude
They all played with all stars and did not face the #1 seed in the first round. Jordan has never lost a series to anybody lower than a 2 seed.
Also, Jordan has only lost one series in his entire career, when he played with at least 1 all star. Pippen was not an all star in the 80's, and missed it 2 championship years in the 90's.
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