Video Of Obama & Crew Making Promises About Job Creation almost every 6+ Weeks

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/04/obama-pivot-to-jobs_n_918902.html

Why keep talking about it if youre not going to or dont have time to seriously attack the problem? Are you "keeping it real" or just trying to fool the people into optimism so they can continue to support you?
hmmmmmmmm......
 
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Obama can't create jobs.......


Yep..i know.
So why keep telling people that you will? Because thats what they want to hear? America cant handle the truth. Is that a justification for lying?

Small businesses used to create the most jobs....until today. With that being stated...the POTUS and crew cant create jobs but they can play a role in job creation.
 
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Why keep talking about it if youre not going to or dont have time to seriously attack the problem?

But he is doing something about it. He's killing off as many jobs as he can.





GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, The Head Of Obama’s Jobs Council, Is Moving Jobs And Economic Infrastructure To China At A Blistering Pace

July 28, 2011




Jeffrey Immelt, the head of Barack Obama’s highly touted “Jobs Council”, is moving even more GE infrastructure to China. GE makes more medical-imaging machines than anyone else in the world, and now GE has announced that it “is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to Beijing“. Apparently, this is all part of a “plan to invest about $2 billion across China” over the next few years. But moving core pieces of its business overseas is nothing new for GE. Under Immelt, GE has shipped tens of thousands of good jobs out of the United States. Perhaps GE should change its slogan to “Imagination At Work (In China)”. If the very people that have been entrusted with solving the unemployment crisis are shipping jobs out of the country, what hope is there that things are going to turn around any time soon?

Earlier this month, Immelt made the following statement to a jobs summit at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce….
“There’s no excuse today for lack of leadership. The truth is we all need to be part of the solution.”
Apparently Immelt’s idea of being part of the solution is to ship as many jobs overseas as he possibly can.

A recent article on the Huffington Post documented how GE has been sending tens of thousands of good jobs out of the country….
As the administration struggles to prod businesses to create jobs at home, GE has been busy sending them abroad. Since Immelt took over in 2001, GE has shed 34,000 jobs in the U.S., according to its most recent annual filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. But it’s added 25,000 jobs overseas.
At the end of 2009, GE employed 36,000 more people abroad than it did in the U.S. In 2000, it was nearly the opposite.
GE is supposed to be creating the “jobs of tomorrow”, but it seems that most of the “jobs of tomorrow” will not be located inside the United States.
The last GE factory in the U.S. that made light bulbs closed last September. The transition to the new CFL light bulbs was supposed to create a whole bunch of those “green jobs” that Barack Obama keeps talking about, but as an article in the Washington Post noted, that simply is not happening….
Rather than setting off a boom in the U.S. manufacture of replacement lights, the leading replacement lights are compact fluorescents, or CFLs, which are made almost entirely overseas, mostly in China.
But GE is far from alone in shipping jobs and economic infrastructure out of the United States. For example, big automakers such as Ford are being very aggressive in China. Ford is currently “building three factories in Chongqing as part of $1.6 billion investment that also includes another plant in Nanchang”.

Today, China accounts for approximately one out of every four vehicles sold worldwide. The big automakers consider the future to be in China.
Just a few decades ago, China was an economic joke and the U.S. economy was absolutely unparalleled.

But disastrous trade policies have opened up the door for a mammoth transfer of jobs, factories and wealth from the United States to China.
China has become an absolute powerhouse and America is rapidly declining.
Beautiful new infrastructure is going up all over China even as U.S. infrastructure rots and decays right in front of our eyes.
You can see some amazing pictures of the stunning economic development that has been going on in China here, here, here and here.
America is being deindustrialized at lightning speed and very few of our politicians seem to care.

Back in 1979, there were 19.5 million manufacturing jobs in the United States.
Today, there are 11.6 million.

That represents a decline of 40 percent during a time period when our overall population experienced tremendous growth.
We used to have the greatest manufacturing cities on the entire globe. The rest of the world was in awe of us.

Today, most of those formerly great manufacturing cities are decaying, rotting hellholes.
The following is what one reporter from the UK saw during his visit to Detroit….
As you pass the city limits a blanket of gloom, neglect and cheapness descends. The buildings are shabbier, the paint is faded. The businesses, where they exist, are thrift shops and pawn shops or wretched groceries where the goods are old and tired. Finding somewhere to have breakfast, normally easy in any American city, involves a long hunt. ‘God bless Detroit’, says one billboard, just beside another offering the alternative solution: liquor.
You can see some really shocking images of the decline of Detroit right here.
Our politicians insisted that globalism would not result in a “giant sucking sound” as millions of jobs left America.

But that is exactly what has happened.

Sadly, most American families still don’t understand what has happened. Most of them are still waiting for things to get back to “normal”.
Millions of unemployed Americans are dealing with incredible amounts of stress right now as they wait for jobs to start opening up again. But the jobs that have been shipped overseas are not coming back. In a globalized economy, it doesn’t make sense to hire American workers when you can legally pay workers slave labor wages on the other side of the globe.
Millions of good middle class jobs have been replaced by low paying service jobs. Today there are huge numbers of Americans that are cutting hair or flipping burgers because that is all they can get right now.
Many others are only able to survive because of the safety net. One reader named David recently left a comment in which he shared his story. David did everything that the system asked him to do, but the promised rewards never materialized. Now David is broke, unemployed and he feels deeply frustrated….
A year ago I had a job, we were struggling, but bills were getting paid, and somehow we were getting by. Then I made the mistake of getting sick, one day before my company insurance kicked in. An auto-immune illness almost killed me, if it weren’t for the amazing efforts of my physicians and an emergency spleenectomy, I would not be here.
My wife would have been a single mother,raising two young sons, one of which is autistic. Instead, I pulled through. The disease damaged my liver, leaving me with a chronic condition, and even after a year, it is hard to get up and go some days. My “employer” dumped me as soon as I left the hospital, and I haven’t worked since. It isn’t for lack of looking. There just isn’t anything.
Oh, I get my government cheese money. Here I am college educated, unable to find something that can pay the bills better than the money that we get from the government. It sickens me to be this dependent on the system like this. But the system de-incentivizes work, and makes living on the dole make a perverse economic sense.
I used to have dreams, but I have given up on them. My wife and I have no savings, we have no life raft and if it weren’t for the generosity of her parents and mine, things would have ground to a halt a long time ago.
I believed every thing adults told me. Work hard, I did. Get an education, I did. Find a nice girl and settle down, I did. Two cars, a dog, a cat and couple of kids, a nice townhouse…the american dream. Yep.
I love my country. My heart is broken, broken because I have been betrayed. I did what you asked, I played by the rules. I did what you said to do; I submitted, I conformed, I stopped dreaming. Now what?
I am willing to pay for my faults and transgressions; my failures are my own, I get that. My children should not have to suffer for my failures, they did not do anything wrong. My youngest boy is autistic, we hope he will be able to integrate into society, but the fact is we may have to take care of him for the rest of his life. How do I do this with nothing, and no opportunity in the foreseeable future?
Depression, stress…yep, I’ve got all that. I used to be hopeful and optimistic about the future. Now all I am is afraid.
As the United States continues to bleed good jobs, stories like the one you just read are going to become much more common.
So what are our politicians doing about all of this?
They tell us that we need even more “free trade”!
Barack Obama says that we need more free trade.
The Republicans say that we need more free trade.
In Washington D.C. our politicians do not agree on much, but one thing they do agree on is that we need to keep shipping jobs out of the country.
Until the American people wake up and start demanding an end to the globalization of the U.S. economy, the job losses are just going to continue to get worse.

The United States has lost a staggering 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs since the year 2000. If this trend continues, millions more Americans will soon be surviving on food stamps or living in tent cities.
The American people are deeply concerned about the economy, but they still have not connected the dots on these issues. The mainstream media and most of our politicians keep telling them that the globalization of the economy is a wonderful thing.

It is so sad that people just do not understand what is going on right in front of their eyes.

Whether you are a conservative or a liberal or a libertarian, you should be against the deindustrialization of America.
Allowing our industrial base to be raped is not a good thing.
Allowing big corporations and foreign governments to pay slave labor wages to workers on the other side of the globe making things that will be sold inside the United States is not a good thing.
Allowing the destruction of our industrial capacity to threaten our national security is not a good thing.

Allowing millions of precious jobs to leave the country is not a good thing.
The biggest corporations are making some extra profits by exploiting cheap labor on the other side of the globe. Corporate executives love to shower themselves with larger and larger bonuses.
But our current trade policies are not working for American workers.
We need “fair trade”, not “free trade”.

The United States is being taken advantage of, and the Democrats and the Republicans are both laying down like doormats and letting it happen.
If you want to know where all the good jobs went, it is not a big mystery.
They have been shipped out of the country and they are not coming back.
Unless fundamental changes are made, things are going to get worse and worse and worse for American workers.

So what is going to happen next?

It is up to you America.


http://hawaiinewsdaily.com/2011/07/...infrastructure-to-china-at-a-blistering-pace/




New Balance struggles to keep U.S. shoe factories going

At the factory here owned by New Balance, the last major athletic-shoe brand to make footwear in the United States, even the workers recognize the operation doesn't make sense in purely economic terms.

By Peter Whoriskey
The Washington Post



NORRIDGEWOCK, Maine — At the factory here owned by New Balance, the last major athletic-shoe brand to make footwear in the United States, even the workers recognize the operation doesn't make sense in purely economic terms.
The company could make far more money if, like Nike and Adidas, it shifted virtually all these jobs to low-wage countries.

So employees try each shift to make it up. Conversations on the shop floor are sparse at best, and the tasks at each work station have been stripped of waste and precisely timed.

Workers cut leather for a pair of shoes in 88 seconds, handle precise stitching in 37 seconds, and glue soles to uppers even faster.

"The company already could make more money by going overseas and they know it," said Scott Boulette, 35, a burly team leader who has his son's name tattooed in Gothic letters down his left forearm. "So we hustle."


Now, however, comes what may be an insurmountable challenge. The Obama administration is negotiating a free-trade agreement with Vietnam and seven other countries, and it is unclear whether the plant can stand up to a flood of shoes from that country, already one of the leading exporters of footwear to the United States.

"We are deeply concerned by the inclusion of Vietnam in a potential free-trade agreement," said New Balance CEO Rob DeMartini.
The workers' predicament highlights the difficulty facing the Obama administration as it seeks free-trade agreements as a potential remedy for U.S. unemployment, now at 9.2 percent.

Backed by many economists, the administration says the agreement with Vietnam and the other countries, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, would create U.S. jobs by opening up Asian countries to U.S. exports such as computers from California and paper products from Maine.

"This agreement will create a potential platform for economic integration across the Asia-Pacific region, a means to advance U.S. economic interests with the fastest-growing economies in the world," U.S. Trade Representative Ronald Kirk told Congress in announcing negotiations were about to begin.
Moreover, importing shoes from Vietnam at lower costs would benefit some in the United States, either by reducing prices for consumers or raising profits for manufacturers that have their operations overseas.

But the example of New Balance, which has long resisted the exodus of American footwear manufacturers, highlights the fact that despite the benefits of free trade, it can also destroy some U.S. jobs. And those losses are felt more acutely in a time of high unemployment.

"We want to fight really hard to keep this business in Maine," said Lori Cook, 28, a single mother with two kids. "I'd like to keep my job."
The company's primary concern is that any free-trade agreement with Vietnam would likely eliminate the steep tariff on footwear imported from that country, making Vietnamese sneakers even cheaper.

New Balance officials said removing the tariff would also undermine years of efforts at the company's five New England factories to compete against cheap foreign labor. The plants employ 1,000 workers.
Those employees earn upward of $10 an hour, plus benefits, while labor costs in China are about $1.50 an hour, and even less in Vietnam.

With the support of some New England legislators, the company hopes an unusual exemption can be created in any agreement with Vietnam to maintain the tariff on the shoes New Balance makes in the United States.
"Making footwear in the U.S. isn't as easy or as profitable as making them overseas. If it were, every company would still be doing it," DeMartini said. "We will continue to ask our negotiators to embrace President Obama's manufacturing agenda and to save what is left of our nation's once-vibrant shoemaking economy."

For decades, shoes coming in from China and Vietnam, the largest sources of imported footwear, have been hit with tariffs of as much as 20 percent or more.
The tariff means a pair of athletic shoes made in the Norridgewock factory or anywhere else in the United States is more competitive than it otherwise would be, and partially offsets the costs of higher wages paid here.
On a pair of shoes that comes into the country valued at $30, for example, a typical 20 percent duty amounts to $6. (In many cases, the markup amounts to 100 percent, meaning those shoes would sell to consumers for $72.)
As workers in New England look around at the shuttered textile and shoe mills that still dot many towns, some see the tariff as the least the United States could do for what's left of the battered industry. In their view, removing the tariff only rewards those companies like Nike and Adidas that have shut U.S. factories and concentrated their operations elsewhere.

Adidas' last plant was in Kutztown, Pa. Joanne Twomey, 65, worked at the Nike factory in Saco, Maine, until it closed in the mid-1980s, the last significant Nike shoe plant in the United States.

"I have not bought one thing from Nike ever since," Twomey, now the mayor of nearby Biddeford, Maine, says. "I tell my children and grandchildren not to buy it either. They owed it to the people who got them to the top — the workers in the U.S. — to stay."

About 25 percent of the shoes New Balance sells in North America are either manufactured or assembled at one of the five New England factories, despite the likelihood that owner Jim Davis could improve profits by joining other shoemakers overseas.

But while the tariff may be protecting New Balance's 1,000 U.S. workers, it appears to have done little to protect the rest of the U.S. shoe industry, which employed as many as 250,000 people in the 1950s but fewer than 15,000 people today.

"The production of footwear is still very much a labor-intensive process," said Erin Dobson, Nike spokeswoman. "This, combined with the cost of labor in the U.S., makes it cost-prohibitive based on the way product in our industry is manufactured today."

She noted that while the company has no shoe manufacturing in the United States, it directly employs 22,000 in the country.
Since about 99 percent of shoes sold in the United States are imported, removal of tariffs likely would save consumers money and help improve profits for retailers and companies that do their manufacturing overseas.
Those companies have banded together in recent years to lobby against what they call "the shoe tax."

"If you are buying shoes, you're paying a shoe tax," said Nate Herman of the American Apparel and Footwear Association, which has led the fight against the shoe tariff and supports the Trans-Pacific Partnership. "For products that are no longer produced here and haven't been produced here for decades, there's no sense for consumers to be paying it."


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2015794298_newbalance02.html
 
Yep..i know.
So why keep telling people that you will? Because thats what they want to hear? America cant handle the truth. Is that a justification for lying?

Small businesses used to create the most jobs....until today. With that being stated...the POTUS and crew cant create jobs but they can play a role in job creation.

Because that's what the average American wants to hear....
 
so why do people elect republicans senators and representatives for.

To give a little balance in Washington.

However, Obama was elected to fix the economy. So far it has not happened. Obama has to be accountable for this situation. Every other president had to be, Obama will be no different.

The only effective thing Obama can do to fix the economy is to cut government spending, and taxes. Businesses react to what the president is doing, not what he is saying. As long as President Obama continues to promote high spending, and the threat of higher taxes, big business will sit on their hands.

Obama really needs to shut up, and do something that will actually be productive. However, the Left will crucify him if that happens.
 
so why do people elect republicans senators and representatives for.

Many didnt come out to vote in the midterms....especially Blacks...because there wasnt anything superficial to motivate them like skin color or gospel music; Hence one many reasons why the Repubs took over part of congress..

If the current Admin is making moves for the betterment of the country then they need to let it be known. You have the media working agaisnt you and you have bad PR people...youre double fucked.
 
Many didnt come out to vote in the midterms....especially Blacks...because there wasnt anything superficial to motivate them like skin color or gospel music; Hence one many reasons why the Repubs took over part of congress..

If the current Admin is making moves for the betterment of the country then they need to let it be known. You have the media working agaisnt you and you have bad PR people...youre double fucked.

I need proof of the media working against Obama...

I have all night....
 
you can't have it both ways.

first you want a jobs program but you don't want big government

and you don't want to spend money.


second the jobs bills have to come from congress then to the senate and then signed by Obama.

What you should be asking is where are the jobs that the jobs creators are getting tax cuts and subsidies to create?

The GOP has tried to sink the country the rest of the way to protect the breaks for the jobs creators so where are those jobs?

Bashing Obama is to much fun I suppose.

Each and every state gets tons of federal money, are they creating jobs or just crushing unions and passing anti illegal immigration laws while trying to make voting more difficult.
 
To give a little balance in Washington.

However, Obama was elected to fix the economy. So far it has not happened. Obama has to be accountable for this situation. Every other president had to be, Obama will be no different.

The only effective thing Obama can do to fix the economy is to cut government spending, and taxes. Businesses react to what the president is doing, not what he is saying. As long as President Obama continues to promote high spending, and the threat of higher taxes, big business will sit on their hands.

Obama really needs to shut up, and do something that will actually be productive. However, the Left will crucify him if that happens.

That is such bullshit.

Bush cuts taxes and regulation so where are the jobs ?

Overseas that's right.

The economy grows when the people who are working have money to buy goods and service, not when the rich sit on wealth.

Cutting taxes and giving tax breaks to the wealthy was started by Reagan and they called it Trickle down economics and it didn't work then.

Bush did the same shit in 2001 and 2003 and it didn't work for him.

So there should not have been an employment issue when Obama took office by your rational because Bush did the things you suggest stimulate an economy.

Even with the 39% tax rate under Clinton the rich got richer because the working class spent the money they made. The businesses benefits by the people/consumers have more money.
 
you can't have it both ways.

first you want a jobs program but you don't want big government

and you don't want to spend money.


second the jobs bills have to come from congress then to the senate and then signed by Obama.

What you should be asking is where are the jobs that the jobs creators are getting tax cuts and subsidies to create?

The GOP has tried to sink the country the rest of the way to protect the breaks for the jobs creators so where are those jobs?

Bashing Obama is to much fun I suppose.

Each and every state gets tons of federal money, are they creating jobs or just crushing unions and passing anti illegal immigration laws while trying to make voting more difficult.

The governors were given massive amounts of money in stimulus, like Rick Perry, and instead of making jobs with it, they balanced their budgets with it
 
so why do people elect republicans senators and representatives for.


Some do it because the GOP agenda does represent their interest.

Some do it because they are pure idiots and by the sound bites they hear.

Why would any working people in the West Virginia coal mines vote GOP when the GOP weakens unions and weakens safety standards so that the companies can earn more profit while making their jobs harder.

What does the bible have to do with government yet all you hear from many in the GOP is Christian values.

How does the GOP talk about getting government out of your life but yet they benefit from government programs.

What does take our country back mean ? Take it from who ?

What does return our country back to the values that made it great mean?

Back to separate schools ad drinking fountains? Back to jim crow.

Why does their rhetoric ring bells with bigots.

Why does their rhetoric focus on bias and fear instead of actual facts.


What has the GOP proposed to fix the economy or create jobs other than protecting corporations at any cost.

Why does spending cuts only relate to the poor, working class and students.

Isn't a subsidy the same as spending since its lessens revenue?
 
The governors were given massive amounts of money in stimulus, like Rick Perry, and instead of making jobs with it, they balanced their budgets with it

And talked about how the stimulus was wrong while accepting money and posing for photo ops with checks and saying what they have doe for the people.
 
To give a little balance in Washington.

no to give A LOT OF BALANCE to washington.. thats why the republicans have filibustered more now than they EVER HAVE. Thats why they STILL obstruct MOST of obama's appointees, thats why the tea baggers OBSTRUCTED the debt ceiling talks and REJECTED the grand bargain.

However, Obama was elected to fix the economy. So far it has not happened. Obama has to be accountable for this situation. Every other president had to be, Obama will be no different.
the president doesn't fix the economy GOVERNMENT (president PLUS CONGRESS) fixes the economy or at least tries to provide an environment in which jobs can be created.

The only effective thing Obama can do to fix the economy is to cut government spending, and taxes. Businesses react to what the president is doing, not what he is saying. As long as President Obama continues to promote high spending, and the threat of higher taxes, big business will sit on their hands.
obama has cut taxes for the last three years..where's the jobs?:rolleyes:

Obama really needs to shut up, and do something that will actually be productive. However, the Left will crucify him if that happens.
and the right will obstruct any effort like they ALWAYS have. its not in their interest for the economy to improve or jobs increase... as long as things are bad they feel they have a better chance at the white house...that means that the GOP has no problem squeezing YOU just to make political points.

Jesus where you asleep in class when they taught how gov't works??

fuckin public education:smh::smh::hmm::hmm:
 
That is such bullshit.

Bush cuts taxes and regulation so where are the jobs ?

Overseas that's right.

The economy grows when the people who are working have money to buy goods and service, not when the rich sit on wealth.

Cutting taxes and giving tax breaks to the wealthy was started by Reagan and they called it Trickle down economics and it didn't work then.

Bush did the same shit in 2001 and 2003 and it didn't work for him.

So there should not have been an employment issue when Obama took office by your rational because Bush did the things you suggest stimulate an economy.

Even with the 39% tax rate under Clinton the rich got richer because the working class spent the money they made. The businesses benefits by the people/consumers have more money.

Look at the graph....


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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Still wanna use the Bush argument?

Lets remember another thing, Clinton worked with congress to balance the budget.
 
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I need proof of the media working against Obama...

I have all night....

Feeding into the BS bickering/fear mongering and shinign light on red herrings aint workign in his favor. But this aint a new role that the media is playing.

Like I stated before....Obama has BS PR people. And strangely those people were put around him just like his BS Admin. Can you say set up to fail/be the escape goat?

The governors were given massive amounts of money in stimulus, like Rick Perry, and instead of making jobs with it, they balanced their budgets with it

When you give away tons of unregulated monies thats the type of shit that happens..right?
 
Feeding into the BS bickering/fear mongering and shinign light on red herrings aint workign in his favor. But this aint a new role that the media is playing.

Like I stated before....Obama has BS PR people. And strangely those people were put around him just like his BS Admin. Can you say set up to fail/be the escape goat?



When you give away tons of unregulated monies thats the type of shit that happens..right?

out of anything, they are trying to make the Tea Party to look crazy.

Obama picks his PR team. So, I highly doubt he wants to set himself up for failure. Unless, he is so arrogant that he wants to shut the door on future black presidents. I highly doubt that also.
 
- wow...a scathing critique from the HUFFINGTON POST of all places

and cats on here still holding on to obama's nuts like luke skywalker at the end of empire strikes back.

that's just weird fellas...:smh::smh:
 
Look at the graph....


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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Still wanna use the Bush argument?

Lets remember another thing, Clinton worked with congress to balance the budget.



One thing that people always forget to mention is that Obama put the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan on the books when he took office...something Bush never did. So that immediately added close to 2 Trillion to the debt on paper, but in reality, it was already there. Also, TARP went into effect...another Trillion...then there was the auto industry bailout (which we profited from) and the stimulus that saved us from a fucking depression. The one thing I will fault him for is spending his political capital on pushing through Health Care when he should have been more focused on the economy. But in light of everything else he did and tried to do, it's hard to make the argument that he wasn't trying. Meanwhile, the GOP was trying to kill unemployment benefits, extend tax cuts for the wealthy and kill Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. The only reason Obama extended the Bush tax cuts was because the Rethugs were holding unemployment benefits hostage.
 
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Look at the graph....


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http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Still wanna use the Bush argument?

Lets remember another thing, Clinton worked with congress to balance the budget.

That graph doesn't show jobs created it shows the unemployment rate.

It clearly shows unemployment rising towards the end of 2007 at the start of the economic meltdown.

As the economy tanked the rate rose to its highest rate in 2009. It has also fluctuated buy gone down since that time.

Yes I am using Bush because they rate clearly is a result of the economic crisis and also that business has seen that their profits are strong with less employees so they haven't re-hired those laid off.



Now to the real question that you so artfully tried to dodge in true GOP fashion. That is how they make their statements, avoid facts and distract the issue with information not related to the discussion.

Job creation with the tax cut for the job creators.

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http://www.wealthvest.com/blog/tag/bush-vs-obama-jobs/

Barack Obama Created More Jobs In One Year Than George Bush Created In Eight Years
Monday, January 10th, 2011
Buzz This morning, the Labor Department released its employment data for December, showing that the U.S. economy ended the year by adding 113,000 private sector jobs, knocking the unemployment rate down sharply from 9.8 percent to 9.4 percent — its lowest rate since July 2009. The “surprising drop — which was far better than the modest step-down economists had forecast — was the steepest one-month fall since 1998.” October and November’s jobs numbers were also revised upward by almost 80,000 each. Still, 14.5 million Americans remain unemployed, and jobs will have to be created much faster in coming months for the country to pull itself out of the economic doldrums.

Responding the jobs report, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) noted that President Obama and the Democratic Congress have created “more jobs in 2010 than President Bush did over eight years.”

Indeed, from February 2001, Bush’s first full month in office, through January 2009, his last, the economy added just 1 million jobs. By contrast, in 2010 alone, the economy added at least 1.1 million jobs. This chart, produced by Pelosi’s office, demonstrates the difference between the Bush administration and the Obama administration on jobs:
As the Wall Street Journal noted in the last month of Bush’s term, the former president had the “worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records.” And job creation under Bush was anemic long before the recession began. Bush’s supply-side economics “fostered the weakest jobs and income growth in more than six decades,” along with “sluggish business investment and weak gross domestic product growth,” the Center for American Progress’ Joshua Picker explained. “On every major measurement” of income and employment, “the country lost ground during Bush’s two terms,” the National Journal’s Ron Brownstein observed, parsing Census data.
 
That graph doesn't show jobs created it shows the unemployment rate.

It clearly shows unemployment rising towards the end of 2007 at the start of the economic meltdown.

As the economy tanked the rate rose to its highest rate in 2009. It has also fluctuated buy gone down since that time.

Yes I am using Bush because they rate clearly is a result of the economic crisis and also that business has seen that their profits are strong with less employees so they haven't re-hired those laid off.



Now to the real question that you so artfully tried to dodge in true GOP fashion. That is how they make their statements, avoid facts and distract the issue with information not related to the discussion.

Job creation with the tax cut for the job creators.

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Ok I thought I was talking to someone who understands this.

Unemployment rate is really the top percentage to look at.

Less the unemployment rate, the more jobs have been created. Job creation just supports the unemployment numbers.

In regards to the argument, you stated that with the Bush tax cuts, and lax regulation, the jobs wasn't here then. I posted a graph stated that the unemployment numbers do not support your argument. Now, you're trying to spin the argument because my chart does not support your theory. This is what happens when I actually decide to throw facts in BGOL.

All I get is spin....

Since, I know that you won't take this lost like a man, I have more things for your lame ass ideas... We can play that game if you wanna.
 
thats after TWO gov't shutdowns that made the GOP look bad..

Thats true but it was also a different time. I doubt the government could afford a shutdown with the fragile economy. At that time we had the dot com boom driving the economy.

I also think the GOP looks bad now except to those who don't want it to look bad.

Current polls show much dissatisfaction on the right. I also think Bohner will lose his speaker ship because he has cantor nipping at his heals.

In any event if they continue to obstruct everything and only look to damage the administration politically we haven't seen the worse. And this time there may be no recovery. It's a dangerous game.
 
Ok I thought I was talking to someone who understands this.

Unemployment rate is really the top percentage to look at.

Less the unemployment rate, the more jobs have been created. Job creation just supports the unemployment numbers.

In regards to the argument, you stated that with the Bush tax cuts, and lax regulation, the jobs wasn't here then. I posted a graph stated that the unemployment numbers do not support your argument. Now, you're trying to spin the argument because my chart does not support your theory. This is what happens when I actually decide to throw facts in BGOL.

All I get is spin....

Since, I know that you won't take this lost like a man, I have more things for your lame ass ideas... We can play that game if you wanna.

If you say so. The topic was jobs created and jobs lost.


Now unemployment is based on different things not just who is employed and who isn't but why

If that calculation now includes people who left the work force who now believe that the economy is getting better to the point they can reasonably find a job, then yes, the unemployment rate going up is a sign of the right direction. Conversely, unemployment going down because large numbers of people leave the workforce to basically do nothing because the economy is truly awful, then a decrease is actually a bad thing as the total workforce has significantly declined.

It helps to understand how they calculate the number before making a partisan hack statement like the one you just made.


And as I said trickle down economics does not work. It didn't work for Reagan and it didn't work for Bush.

All I want is a simple answer if lowering the taxes on the job creators makes jobs, where are they ?
 
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