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Yeah, that's the same video....
My post/video is in torrent form because I got it from torrentspy.com....
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Gang, Gang Wars and Cointelpro 2006
I got a kite from one of my close friends I grew up with. He's doing 18 years for armed roberry and Attempted murder in N.J. state prison. In his letter he told me how the gang problem in N.J. is getting ridiculous and he is seeing young people from my hometown which never had gangs come into the prison talking about they are part of a gang. He also said there is now word that the KKK sent a letter to the Bloods thanking them for all the killing of black people they are doing and offering support in the form of guns if necessary. He said the result of this rumor is all non-bloods group/gangs now against the bloods. The black and mexican thing has spread to the east jails so they are beefing. The whites and blacks are beefing as always so really its total chaos in the prisons. The type of chaos when people are realeased spreads to the streets.
The shit sounded to me as a rumor but for some reason people in the prisons take this seriously. The letter got me thinking on how to respond to the brother to let him now how incarcerated people fighting each other is pointless. To let him know how the government has used letters and rumors in the past to start beef amongst people, to disrupt organizations and to control. I started thinking about this so called Mexican-black beef in Cali and how its spreading east. I started thinking about how cointel-pro crushed the black panthers and disrupted the NOI. I started thinking how they tried to discredit MLK through rumors and letters.
I started to wonder could we be seeing the same thing happening now. Could the government be responsible for spreading these rumors in our communities through their informants and agents. Could this be an attempt to cause friction amongst the groups that will be the majority in this country in the next century. Could this be a means to control the prison population by having them fight amongst themselves diverting their attention from their true oppressors. Could they be using these tactics in a controlled environment of prison in order to spread it to our communites.
I don't know. I have no proof either way but the parrelles between what is happening now and what has happened in the past are strikingly similar. During the 80's and early 90's gangs spread at an alarming rate throughout America. This was the time of the crack epidemic. It was also during the regan and bush administrations. 2006 gang activity has again been rising significantly and once again we have a bush in office. All of a sudden we have new latino gangs like MS-13. We have gangs developing in places in the east that they never were. Why the lull and why start up again now.
The question I have for all is how do we insulate ourselves from these type of attacks. How do we stop rumors from starting all out wars among the poor people of America. Whether these rumors were started by the government or not they never have any factual bases but yet they cause such high levels of violence.
The black, latino and poor white communities of America have always used word of mouth to communicate important and vital information. Because our people don't trust the media for some reason we trust the information coming from our neighbors more than we trust any other media. Add that to the fact we have no independent media for our communites it equals the dependance on ghetto folklore as our basis of reality.
The American government has shown the willingness to use our dependence on this type of information as a means to control. How do we unshakle ourselves and how do I tell my boy in prison to combat this fake war amongst oursleves, and against the latinos?
I got a kite from one of my close friends I grew up with. He's doing 18 years for armed roberry and Attempted murder in N.J. state prison. In his letter he told me how the gang problem in N.J. is getting ridiculous and he is seeing young people from my hometown which never had gangs come into the prison talking about they are part of a gang. He also said there is now word that the KKK sent a letter to the Bloods thanking them for all the killing of black people they are doing and offering support in the form of guns if necessary. He said the result of this rumor is all non-bloods group/gangs now against the bloods. The black and mexican thing has spread to the east jails so they are beefing. The whites and blacks are beefing as always so really its total chaos in the prisons. The type of chaos when people are realeased spreads to the streets.
The shit sounded to me as a rumor but for some reason people in the prisons take this seriously. The letter got me thinking on how to respond to the brother to let him now how incarcerated people fighting each other is pointless. To let him know how the government has used letters and rumors in the past to start beef amongst people, to disrupt organizations and to control. I started thinking about this so called Mexican-black beef in Cali and how its spreading east. I started thinking about how cointel-pro crushed the black panthers and disrupted the NOI. I started thinking how they tried to discredit MLK through rumors and letters.
I started to wonder could we be seeing the same thing happening now. Could the government be responsible for spreading these rumors in our communities through their informants and agents. Could this be an attempt to cause friction amongst the groups that will be the majority in this country in the next century. Could this be a means to control the prison population by having them fight amongst themselves diverting their attention from their true oppressors. Could they be using these tactics in a controlled environment of prison in order to spread it to our communites.
I don't know. I have no proof either way but the parrelles between what is happening now and what has happened in the past are strikingly similar. During the 80's and early 90's gangs spread at an alarming rate throughout America. This was the time of the crack epidemic. It was also during the regan and bush administrations. 2006 gang activity has again been rising significantly and once again we have a bush in office. All of a sudden we have new latino gangs like MS-13. We have gangs developing in places in the east that they never were. Why the lull and why start up again now.
The question I have for all is how do we insulate ourselves from these type of attacks. How do we stop rumors from starting all out wars among the poor people of America. Whether these rumors were started by the government or not they never have any factual bases but yet they cause such high levels of violence.
The black, latino and poor white communities of America have always used word of mouth to communicate important and vital information. Because our people don't trust the media for some reason we trust the information coming from our neighbors more than we trust any other media. Add that to the fact we have no independent media for our communites it equals the dependance on ghetto folklore as our basis of reality.
The American government has shown the willingness to use our dependence on this type of information as a means to control. How do we unshakle ourselves and how do I tell my boy in prison to combat this fake war amongst oursleves, and against the latinos?
Re: Gang, Gang Wars and Cointelpro 2006
Man, the gang shit is gettin outta control
I'm originally form Atlantic City Nj man we got Bloods and Crips
out there now..i mean i remember back in like
93 when i was a youngin we had muslim gangs, the Abdullahs
and Salaaams but now cats is really bangin out there
i went to my old neighboorhoood in the "inlet" of A.C. and
im seein east side crips spray painted on shit man
The Jail shit is truw tho..there been gangs in jails
my bol got locked and he said that most of al the old
Abdullah and Salaam gang bangers in A.C. area ll locked up
cats feel like if they align themselves with a gang in Prison
gives them protection...a neutron in prison is a target
Jerz is gettin worser tho..
Man, the gang shit is gettin outta control
I'm originally form Atlantic City Nj man we got Bloods and Crips
out there now..i mean i remember back in like
93 when i was a youngin we had muslim gangs, the Abdullahs
and Salaaams but now cats is really bangin out there
i went to my old neighboorhoood in the "inlet" of A.C. and
im seein east side crips spray painted on shit man
The Jail shit is truw tho..there been gangs in jails
my bol got locked and he said that most of al the old
Abdullah and Salaam gang bangers in A.C. area ll locked up
cats feel like if they align themselves with a gang in Prison
gives them protection...a neutron in prison is a target
Jerz is gettin worser tho..
Re: Gang, Gang Wars and Cointelpro 2006
I think you missed the point. The point was how we as a community are so vulnerable to rumors and stories that they can and do initiate violence in our communities amongst ourselves and other groups. Whether or not the government is behind these rumors is not the issue and the underlying crime for which individuals are incarcerated is not the issue.
The prison system in America is an environment where gang activity is the strongest. The prisons are the breeding ground for gang activity and gang culture. When you have upwards of a million people incarcerated and revolving through our prison system and returning primarily to our communities it is vital we understand how the culture of gang activites affects these individuals and contributes to the continuation of the cycle of violence.
In this culture there are no memos. There are no treatise there is in reality no organization. The main communication between gang members accross the country occurs through word of mouth through our prisons. SO when a rumor begins spreading through prisons and it is believed as fact it becomes reality. The wars begin people die and more people become incarcerated.
Unfortuanatly what many consider bullshit conspiracy theories are exactly the type of things that set off these wars. When they are used in the negative like "the mexicans are going to shoot any black student on May 5th" they are believed and people get hurt. People don't get hurt because of the validity of the statement because the validity is never investigated. People get hurt because of the Belief in the validity of the statement. Our belief in the validity of urban folklore is what made us vulenerable to cointelpro the first time and our continued belief makes us still vunerable today.
In my mind there are two ways to combat this vulnerability in our culture.
1. We can discredit the entire belief system. We can educate people to the ways that our communities have been victim to psychological warfare and hope that our people investigate before they believe. This of course is the long but most effective road.
2. We can counter back with stories that counteract and cause positive reactions. For instance the story of Willie Lynch. The validity of this story is definetly questionable however the impact of a belief in this story is positive. It causes individuals to behave diffrently under fear that negative behavior is acting as a slave to the establishment. This is the faster route.
This issue is important because it is happening now. My friend fights for his life everyday in a prison system where violence can be started by rumors. He is in the middle of a gang war over absolutly nothing. Whoever started the rumor had a purpose and the purpose could not have been anything positive. If I tell him that I think this rumor is part of Cointelpro 2006 what can happen. People can stop believing the original rumor and violence can stop. The only negative is that people distrust the government which they should do anyway.
QueEx said:
I think you missed the point. The point was how we as a community are so vulnerable to rumors and stories that they can and do initiate violence in our communities amongst ourselves and other groups. Whether or not the government is behind these rumors is not the issue and the underlying crime for which individuals are incarcerated is not the issue.
The prison system in America is an environment where gang activity is the strongest. The prisons are the breeding ground for gang activity and gang culture. When you have upwards of a million people incarcerated and revolving through our prison system and returning primarily to our communities it is vital we understand how the culture of gang activites affects these individuals and contributes to the continuation of the cycle of violence.
In this culture there are no memos. There are no treatise there is in reality no organization. The main communication between gang members accross the country occurs through word of mouth through our prisons. SO when a rumor begins spreading through prisons and it is believed as fact it becomes reality. The wars begin people die and more people become incarcerated.
Unfortuanatly what many consider bullshit conspiracy theories are exactly the type of things that set off these wars. When they are used in the negative like "the mexicans are going to shoot any black student on May 5th" they are believed and people get hurt. People don't get hurt because of the validity of the statement because the validity is never investigated. People get hurt because of the Belief in the validity of the statement. Our belief in the validity of urban folklore is what made us vulenerable to cointelpro the first time and our continued belief makes us still vunerable today.
In my mind there are two ways to combat this vulnerability in our culture.
1. We can discredit the entire belief system. We can educate people to the ways that our communities have been victim to psychological warfare and hope that our people investigate before they believe. This of course is the long but most effective road.
2. We can counter back with stories that counteract and cause positive reactions. For instance the story of Willie Lynch. The validity of this story is definetly questionable however the impact of a belief in this story is positive. It causes individuals to behave diffrently under fear that negative behavior is acting as a slave to the establishment. This is the faster route.
This issue is important because it is happening now. My friend fights for his life everyday in a prison system where violence can be started by rumors. He is in the middle of a gang war over absolutly nothing. Whoever started the rumor had a purpose and the purpose could not have been anything positive. If I tell him that I think this rumor is part of Cointelpro 2006 what can happen. People can stop believing the original rumor and violence can stop. The only negative is that people distrust the government which they should do anyway.
Re: Gang, Gang Wars and Cointelpro 2006
http://64.255.174.200/board/showthread.php?t=94833
QueEx
Temujin said:
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Gang presence growing in the'burbs
Gang presence growing in the'burbs
Panel says young hoods, often white and working, making inroads
Sunday, May 14, 2006
BY PETER N. SPENCER
For the Star-Ledger
Street gang members don't always fit popular stereotypes of gun-wielding African-American and Hispanic hoodlums hanging on the street corners of urban ghettos.
They are often white, have regular jobs and families and keep their gang associations and criminal activities well-concealed.
And over the last decade, they have also made headway into the rural towns and tony suburbs of Somerset and Hunterdon Counties.
These were some of the messages state and local enforcement officials tried to convey at a community education program at the Somerset County Courthouse last week. Organizers of the program, entitled "Gangs -- What You Need To know," said it was a wake-up call for New Jersey communities that feel they are immune to gang violence.
About 75 people attended the program, which was sponsored by the Somerville Citizen's Advisory Committee and the Minority Concerns Committee of the Superior Court of New Jersey, Somerset/Huntderon/Warren County Vicinage.
Superior Court Judge Paul W. Armstrong, chairman of the committee, said the turnout was the largest he has seen for any of the group's programs, but also seemed skeptical the message would reach the right people.
"We always seemed to be preaching to the choir," Ross said, before introducing the two presenters Thursday night. "We're not going to talk to the people we need to talk to -- which are the parents not paying attention to their kids."
One of the presenters, Somerset County Sheriff's Officer Ahmed Mackey, an instructor in the Gang Resistance Education and Training (GREAT) Program, and a School Resource Officer who works mainly in Franklin Township, characterized Somerset and parts of Hunterdon county as having a "gang presence."
"A presence means we know they are here. We don't have a gang problem. We don't have all of the shootings like (other counties) have," Mackey said.
But he added: "If you have a presence, they are going to be a problem."
According to 2004 survey conducted by the state Department of Law and Public Safety, 143 municipalities across the state reported the presence of gangs in their communities -- more than twice as many reported in a survey conducted three years earlier.
During the same period, the number of gangs reported by police departments increased from around 300 to more than 700. Total gang membership across the state is estimated to be more than 17,000.
Those members accounted for 17 percent of all homicides in state last year, according to State Police statistics.
Another surprising finding from the survey: 70 percent of the respondents who reported gang activity are from communities considered urban suburbs or suburbs. Because many municipalities did not participate in the voluntary survey, gang experts believe those numbers could be even higher.
About 40 percent New Jersey's gang members belong to three national "super-gangs": the Bloods, the Crips and the Latin Kings. Somerset County authorities have reported arrests of members of all of these gangs.
There are also a number of indigenous gangs in the area with connections to the larger urban gangs, Mackey said. Alleged members of the "Chip Set" gang from Franklin Township's Parkside housing complex -- who have reported connections with Bloods from Newark -- recently pled guilty to robbing a man at gunpoint last January.
Mackey also substantiated reports that membership in "MS-13," a Central American street gang known for its brutality, has been on the rise throughout the area, with arrests made as far as Flemington. Gang experts believe MS-13 -- which stands for Mara Salvatrucha, "posse of tough Salvadorans" -- started in Los Angeles in the 1980s by Salvadorans fleeing a civil war. After many were deported back to their home country, they recruited members from nearby Honduras and Guatemala.
MS-13 now has an estimated 8,000 to 10,000 members in 33 states, according to Federal Bureau of Investigation statistics.
"They have been popping up in a number of places," Mackey said.
Lt. Edwin Torres, a youth gang expert and commander of the Gang Management Unit of the Juvenile Justice Commission, said "immigrant" gangs like the MS-13, and La Mugre have spread to the area because they find opportunities here.
"They look for pocket areas (in which) to operate," said Torres. "They take advantage of other immigrants who may not be here legally and are either suspicious of or unwilling to speak to police."
Today's street gangs are far more sophisticated than their predecessors, recruiting and marketing themselves on the Internet, diversifying their businesses from traditional drug trafficking and theft to identity fraud and extortion.
The fastest growing segment of gangs are female gangs, which both experts said are often more violent than their male counterparts.
By and large, however, gangs are still comprised of disaffected youths; kids under 17 account for about 66 percent of all gang membership. They are influenced by a number of factors: peer pressure, low self-esteem, the need to belong and the glorification of the "Gangsta" lifestyle by popular media.
Reaching children at a young age is also the key to keeping them away from such influences, Torres said. He has spoken with thousands of young gang members in his 18 years in law enforcement and almost all of them have told him they don't want to continue being part of gangs.
For the parents, teachers and youth instructors in the audience, Torres offered a simple remedy to what he and other experts call "gang addiction:" stop it before it starts.
"Speak with you kids, know where they are, know who their friends are," Torres said. "You think they're gonna hate you because you give them tough love, but when they grow up, they'll thank you."
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/somerset/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1147581602316100.xml&coll=1
Gang presence growing in the'burbs
Panel says young hoods, often white and working, making inroads
Sunday, May 14, 2006
BY PETER N. SPENCER
For the Star-Ledger
Street gang members don't always fit popular stereotypes of gun-wielding African-American and Hispanic hoodlums hanging on the street corners of urban ghettos.
They are often white, have regular jobs and families and keep their gang associations and criminal activities well-concealed.
And over the last decade, they have also made headway into the rural towns and tony suburbs of Somerset and Hunterdon Counties.
These were some of the messages state and local enforcement officials tried to convey at a community education program at the Somerset County Courthouse last week. Organizers of the program, entitled "Gangs -- What You Need To know," said it was a wake-up call for New Jersey communities that feel they are immune to gang violence.
About 75 people attended the program, which was sponsored by the Somerville Citizen's Advisory Committee and the Minority Concerns Committee of the Superior Court of New Jersey, Somerset/Huntderon/Warren County Vicinage.
Superior Court Judge Paul W. Armstrong, chairman of the committee, said the turnout was the largest he has seen for any of the group's programs, but also seemed skeptical the message would reach the right people.
"We always seemed to be preaching to the choir," Ross said, before introducing the two presenters Thursday night. "We're not going to talk to the people we need to talk to -- which are the parents not paying attention to their kids."
One of the presenters, Somerset County Sheriff's Officer Ahmed Mackey, an instructor in the Gang Resistance Education and Training (GREAT) Program, and a School Resource Officer who works mainly in Franklin Township, characterized Somerset and parts of Hunterdon county as having a "gang presence."
"A presence means we know they are here. We don't have a gang problem. We don't have all of the shootings like (other counties) have," Mackey said.
But he added: "If you have a presence, they are going to be a problem."
According to 2004 survey conducted by the state Department of Law and Public Safety, 143 municipalities across the state reported the presence of gangs in their communities -- more than twice as many reported in a survey conducted three years earlier.
During the same period, the number of gangs reported by police departments increased from around 300 to more than 700. Total gang membership across the state is estimated to be more than 17,000.
Those members accounted for 17 percent of all homicides in state last year, according to State Police statistics.
Another surprising finding from the survey: 70 percent of the respondents who reported gang activity are from communities considered urban suburbs or suburbs. Because many municipalities did not participate in the voluntary survey, gang experts believe those numbers could be even higher.
About 40 percent New Jersey's gang members belong to three national "super-gangs": the Bloods, the Crips and the Latin Kings. Somerset County authorities have reported arrests of members of all of these gangs.
There are also a number of indigenous gangs in the area with connections to the larger urban gangs, Mackey said. Alleged members of the "Chip Set" gang from Franklin Township's Parkside housing complex -- who have reported connections with Bloods from Newark -- recently pled guilty to robbing a man at gunpoint last January.
Mackey also substantiated reports that membership in "MS-13," a Central American street gang known for its brutality, has been on the rise throughout the area, with arrests made as far as Flemington. Gang experts believe MS-13 -- which stands for Mara Salvatrucha, "posse of tough Salvadorans" -- started in Los Angeles in the 1980s by Salvadorans fleeing a civil war. After many were deported back to their home country, they recruited members from nearby Honduras and Guatemala.
MS-13 now has an estimated 8,000 to 10,000 members in 33 states, according to Federal Bureau of Investigation statistics.
"They have been popping up in a number of places," Mackey said.
Lt. Edwin Torres, a youth gang expert and commander of the Gang Management Unit of the Juvenile Justice Commission, said "immigrant" gangs like the MS-13, and La Mugre have spread to the area because they find opportunities here.
"They look for pocket areas (in which) to operate," said Torres. "They take advantage of other immigrants who may not be here legally and are either suspicious of or unwilling to speak to police."
Today's street gangs are far more sophisticated than their predecessors, recruiting and marketing themselves on the Internet, diversifying their businesses from traditional drug trafficking and theft to identity fraud and extortion.
The fastest growing segment of gangs are female gangs, which both experts said are often more violent than their male counterparts.
By and large, however, gangs are still comprised of disaffected youths; kids under 17 account for about 66 percent of all gang membership. They are influenced by a number of factors: peer pressure, low self-esteem, the need to belong and the glorification of the "Gangsta" lifestyle by popular media.
Reaching children at a young age is also the key to keeping them away from such influences, Torres said. He has spoken with thousands of young gang members in his 18 years in law enforcement and almost all of them have told him they don't want to continue being part of gangs.
For the parents, teachers and youth instructors in the audience, Torres offered a simple remedy to what he and other experts call "gang addiction:" stop it before it starts.
"Speak with you kids, know where they are, know who their friends are," Torres said. "You think they're gonna hate you because you give them tough love, but when they grow up, they'll thank you."
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/somerset/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1147581602316100.xml&coll=1
COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America
"COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America" - Post Media Reply
"It was then that Hoover approved his infamous COMINFIL-COINTELPRO program, which called for intensifying efforts to uncover "Communist influence on the Negro," which included wiretapping and harassment of King and others active in the movement.
The "red menace" and Cold War politics were used at all levels to discredit every measure of racial progress in the South. It was the pretext for Kentucky authorities to charge Carl Braden and recently-deceased Anne Braden with sedition in 1954 for merely selling their house to an African-American couple in segregated Louisville.
The idea that King and the movement had Moscow on speed-dial is, of course, total bunk and laughable to any informed observer (I don't include Domenech in this category). There were surely members of the left, including communists, who were deeply involved in civil rights, including King's close friend Stanley Levinson.
But most weren't communists intent on helping the Soviets: for example, the Highlander Folk School in Tennessee that trained Rosa Parks and other civil rights figures -- and which the right wing still uses as "proof" of King's nefarious red ties -- was led by home-grown Christian socialists and pacifists. The Kings themselves were never members of any group.
That leads to another key part of this story that most bloggers are missing. If Martin and Coretta King "associated" with communists, it was for the simple reason that leftists were often the first and most dedicated defenders of civil rights. For example, the communist International Defense League was the first group to step forward to defend the "Scottsboro Boys," the nine black teens sentenced to death in trumped-up charges of raping a white woman (even the NAACP wouldn't take the case).
African Americans in the South did occasionally turn to white socialists and communists for support because liberal and "tolerant" whites often flaked out (read King's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," directed at the white liberal clergy). Those further to the left were much more reliable and hard-working allies.
On the other side, civil rights leaders also saw that those who red-baited and whipped up communist hysteria were also those who most bitterly defended white racist rule. When the Red Scare right-wingers forced people to take sides, which do you think was more appealing to African-Americans in the South?
So let's be clear: Domenech's comment is more than unhinged howling (although it is that). It's part of the right's larger preoccupation with reliving the Cold War, and a larger agenda to resuscitate McCarthyism and validate the Red Scare.
There are two goals at work here. One is to justify today's crack-down on dissent, from illegal wire-tapping and surveillance of peace groups, to the harassment of "tenured radicals" the right fears are out to brainwash our impressionable youth.
But just as dangerously, it's also an attempt to re-write our entire history -- to cast as vicitims those who stood for racism, white rule and persecution (McCarthy suffered from a "witch-hunt," says Ann Coulter), and to portray those who stood most nobly for justice and freedom as irrelevant or diabolically un-American.
In other words, to change the very definition of progress in our country."
http://www.southernstudies.org/
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Cointelpro information website **click video below**
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"COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America" - Post Media Reply
"It was then that Hoover approved his infamous COMINFIL-COINTELPRO program, which called for intensifying efforts to uncover "Communist influence on the Negro," which included wiretapping and harassment of King and others active in the movement.
The "red menace" and Cold War politics were used at all levels to discredit every measure of racial progress in the South. It was the pretext for Kentucky authorities to charge Carl Braden and recently-deceased Anne Braden with sedition in 1954 for merely selling their house to an African-American couple in segregated Louisville.
The idea that King and the movement had Moscow on speed-dial is, of course, total bunk and laughable to any informed observer (I don't include Domenech in this category). There were surely members of the left, including communists, who were deeply involved in civil rights, including King's close friend Stanley Levinson.
But most weren't communists intent on helping the Soviets: for example, the Highlander Folk School in Tennessee that trained Rosa Parks and other civil rights figures -- and which the right wing still uses as "proof" of King's nefarious red ties -- was led by home-grown Christian socialists and pacifists. The Kings themselves were never members of any group.
That leads to another key part of this story that most bloggers are missing. If Martin and Coretta King "associated" with communists, it was for the simple reason that leftists were often the first and most dedicated defenders of civil rights. For example, the communist International Defense League was the first group to step forward to defend the "Scottsboro Boys," the nine black teens sentenced to death in trumped-up charges of raping a white woman (even the NAACP wouldn't take the case).
African Americans in the South did occasionally turn to white socialists and communists for support because liberal and "tolerant" whites often flaked out (read King's "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," directed at the white liberal clergy). Those further to the left were much more reliable and hard-working allies.
On the other side, civil rights leaders also saw that those who red-baited and whipped up communist hysteria were also those who most bitterly defended white racist rule. When the Red Scare right-wingers forced people to take sides, which do you think was more appealing to African-Americans in the South?
So let's be clear: Domenech's comment is more than unhinged howling (although it is that). It's part of the right's larger preoccupation with reliving the Cold War, and a larger agenda to resuscitate McCarthyism and validate the Red Scare.
There are two goals at work here. One is to justify today's crack-down on dissent, from illegal wire-tapping and surveillance of peace groups, to the harassment of "tenured radicals" the right fears are out to brainwash our impressionable youth.
But just as dangerously, it's also an attempt to re-write our entire history -- to cast as vicitims those who stood for racism, white rule and persecution (McCarthy suffered from a "witch-hunt," says Ann Coulter), and to portray those who stood most nobly for justice and freedom as irrelevant or diabolically un-American.
In other words, to change the very definition of progress in our country."
http://www.southernstudies.org/
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related links:
Cointelpro information website **click video below**
[FLASH]http://www.liveleak.com/player.swf?token=8bd_1196671336[/FLASH]
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Re: COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America
I know BGOL is primarily a porn board, but I come here, really, for the information not shared - news wise. This week we have talked about the senseless death of Sean Taylor, violence, Jesse Jackson, Jena 6 and a host of other topics that stem from the systematic destruction of black leadership in the community. The government has had a hand in this and your post gets less that 50 views.
WTF is that?!?
I touched on this topic a month or two ago. If more people understood the conditions that breed violence amongst blacks and how our demise has been orchestrated we would be much further along.
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=203746
I know BGOL is primarily a porn board, but I come here, really, for the information not shared - news wise. This week we have talked about the senseless death of Sean Taylor, violence, Jesse Jackson, Jena 6 and a host of other topics that stem from the systematic destruction of black leadership in the community. The government has had a hand in this and your post gets less that 50 views.
WTF is that?!?I touched on this topic a month or two ago. If more people understood the conditions that breed violence amongst blacks and how our demise has been orchestrated we would be much further along.
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=203746
Re: COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America
i totally agree i guess clowning peeps is more important?I know BGOL is primarily a porn board, but I come here, really, for the information not shared - news wise. This week we have talked about the senseless death of Sean Taylor, violence, Jesse Jackson, Jena 6 and a host of other topics that stem from the systematic destruction of black leadership in the community. The government has had a hand in this and your post gets less that 50 views.
I touched on this topic a month or two ago. If more people understood the conditions that breed violence amongst blacks and how our demise has been orchestrated we would be much further along.
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Re: COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America
------ can't even spell people anymore......that should answer your question.
------ can't even spell people anymore......that should answer your question.
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Re: COINTELPRO: The FBI's War on Black America
PEOPLE, this is still going on! Do not be fooled into thinking that the Government has stopped these types of illicit activities towards blacks.
PEOPLE, this is still going on! Do not be fooled into thinking that the Government has stopped these types of illicit activities towards blacks.
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