Vanessa Bell Calloway believes her skin tone affected ‘Coming to America’ casting

Although I get her point, she is full of shit on this one. Callaway is another Monique type. Always complaining about something when it's probably more about her talent. Most of the women in Coming to America were dark skinned. The Bathers, Aresenio's chick, etc.
 
I can't remember anything that she was in back then to say if she didn't deserve the role or not. Lets remember Samuel Jackson was in that movie too. But back then he wasn't the powerhouse he is now. Then he was Extra#6 so I can't say colorism was a factor or not (it may have well been) or the other chick could have blown Eddie. I don't know!

That would be a trip if she just came out; 'Yeah I blew him for the part!! She spent 40min ALONE with Eddie and didn't do shyt! After 5min I was on my knees!'
 
I mean that part is true though, but I digress.

Back in the 80’s when this was casted you couldn’t tell a light skin nigga nothing. Y’all be looking muthafuckas dead in the eye like, “..Past the wine cooler, you big black ha ha ha...”
You know how many dark niggas I done beat down? Dozens. I beat the brakes off you dark ass niggas thinking otherwise.
 
Although I get her point, she is full of shit on this one. Callaway is another Monique type. Always complaining about something when it's probably more about her talent. Most of the women in Coming to America were dark skinned. The Bathers, Aresenio's chick, etc.
She has a point. All those chicks you mentioned were playing subservient roles. Calloway's biggest line was to hop on one foot and bark like a dog because the prince told her to. Meanwhile the smart, independent, woman was the one light-skinned chick in the entire movie.
 
She has a point. All those chicks you mentioned were playing subservient roles. Calloway's biggest line was to hop on one foot and bark like a dog because the prince told her to. Meanwhile the smart, independent, woman was the one light-skinned chick in the entire movie.
You are reaching. What about the mother in movie. She was Dark skinned.

Why hasn't Calloway gotten any other major roles??? I'm guessing, in her case, it's because of talent or attitude. I have seen a few of her interviews and she is full of herself.
 
Johnny Gill isn’t exactly light skinned
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We don't have Caribbean/African level skin bleaching colorism here but we still have it to a lesser degree. Society, media, etc. will treat a darker woman with African features much differently than someone with lighter skin and more "European" features.
 
We don't have Caribbean/African level skin bleaching colorism here but we still have it to a lesser degree. Society, media, etc. will treat a darker woman with African features much differently than someone with lighter skin and more "European" features.

Its not just the women. In pro sports, light skin, biracial, and Black men married to white anglo and white latina women are depicted as more heroic and human than those who aint and or marry Black women. Modern pro sports heavily promotes swirling and lightening your gene pool.
 
You are reaching. What about the mother in movie. She was Dark skinned.

Why hasn't Calloway gotten any other major roles??? I'm guessing, in her case, it's because of talent or attitude. I have seen a few of her interviews and she is full of herself.
You act as if Sherri Headly went on to have a Halle Berry career. Other than being married to Kid for a few years, Sherri's career fizzled out pretty quick. At least Callaway is still working.

As for the rest, if we flipped the roles and all the dark skinned dudes were simps and one strong brother happened to be light skinned, you would cool with that, just because one dark-skinned dude happens to be a patriarchal character?
 
You act as if Sherri Headly went on to have a Halle Berry career. Other than being married to Kid for a few years, Sherri's career fizzled out pretty quick. At least Callaway is still working.

As for the rest, if we flipped the roles and all the dark skinned dudes were simps and one strong brother happened to be light skinned, you would cool with that, just because one dark-skinned dude happens to be a patriarchal character?
C'mon man... Like I said, I 100% agree back when this movie was made, there was bias toward dark skinned women.

In this case, Callaway's talent or attitude was likely the issue. That's my opinion. That's it!
 
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She has a point. All those chicks you mentioned were playing subservient roles. Calloway's biggest line was to hop on one foot and bark like a dog because the prince told her to. Meanwhile the smart, independent, woman was the one light-skinned chick in the entire movie.
The funny thing that scene stood out more than any of the eventual love interest was in.. even her sis had more memorial parts.. the love interest was the weakest link in that movie.. hell you love the rose Chicks scenes more than hers
 
If you really think about it, it wasn't a miscast at all. She's thinking about it from the perspective of an actor. She's thinking that she would have had more lines, which translates into more money. Is she a better actress? Of course.
Storywise, she fit well. She was raised to be the perfect wife for Prince Akeem. She was beautiful and obeyed his every command. Technically, she was perfect. Her beauty was not in question. Also, she was a chosen mate. Of course, his African king father would pick a beautiful black woman.
Lisa was a standard of American beauty, not African beauty. Even so, she was not the "best of the best" in all of America. Akeem liked her because she was HIS choice, not because she was the BEST choice.

This applies to real life as well. Not all of you kniggas are rollin' with dimes at home. I myself will take a loyal bitch over a fine bitch any day. Lisa was "hot enough" for Akeem. She was almost literally the first chick he was attracted to. He just put a massive effort in trying to snag her.
Now you can analyze the amount colorism played in black society at the time and measure that against how it affected casting and you might have some merit, but Vanessa represented a kind of beauty (like his bath girls, the flower/rose girls Garcelle B., etc.). There were some dope ass chicks dancing during her intro scene, too.
Can't be mad at that.

Well said...

I've always had a thing for Vanessa Bell Calloway.. ....it might've started when I watched Coming to America as a kid. To this day my wife stares a hole in my face whenever she appears on screen.
 
She has a point.
Light skin and Euro features are a higher standard of beauty worldwide. In Thailand, the majority of the Thai had bleaching cream on in the morning. Love interests in movies are usually light-skinned. Dark-skinned brothers have been getting traction, but the sistas not so much.

This is a tough subject to discuss in our community because the dialogue starts to kind of shit on light skinned brothers and sisters. In our community, it is ok to verbally say you prefer dark skinned women/men but no really light skinned women/men.

White Supremacy runs deep.
 
her arguments makes no sense... casting directors/movie starts pick different people all the time. she basically wanted the role beccause the more lines she had, the bigger the part, then more $$ she could command. Whereas, the casting director and Eddie, choose people they wanted for the role. I never saw skin color choices in a EM movies, so I call bullshit on her claims. A further point, is she in the sequel as well as everyone else, so what is her problem. Coming to America is funny because its funny and not funny because of casting choices.
 
She has a point.
Light skin and Euro features are a higher standard of beauty worldwide. In Thailand, the majority of the Thai had bleaching cream on in the morning. Love interests in movies are usually light-skinned. Dark-skinned brothers have been getting traction, but the sistas not so much.

This is a tough subject to discuss in our community because the dialogue starts to kind of shit on light skinned brothers and sisters. In our community, it is ok to verbally say you prefer dark skinned women/men but no really light skinned women/men.

White Supremacy runs deep.

Colorism can work the other way absolutely. Thats why you have a Mulatto rapper feeling like they gotta be super ratchet to prove they really Black and "down" with our community.





Light skin people get teased and shitted on too and there are people who question their Blackness based off their skin tone, that is colorism too. But when it comes to WS, proximity to whiteness in almost all cultures in the world means higher caste. In the US its alot more nuanced because of ADOS, but its there.
 
I guess you don't remember the controversy back the lat 90's/ 00's when dark skin women were complaining about rappers specifically asking casting agents not to hire dark skinned women for their videos.

White supremacy may have been the root cause, but black folk took that mantle and ran with it.

Dark skin women have to be elevated to the standard for black beauty. From what I'm hearing from conscious light skin women is that they are starting to respect the spaces of dark skin women. It is a start.
 
Yea all the new female rappers are either biracial and or multi ethnic and they are becoming the singular representation of Black.

That is a serious problem. Not enough representation of brown/dark skin women as equal standard. I feel light skin women need to stay out of dark skin women places. Even though you had light skin jokes about me and people liking your comments I always stay disciplined when it comes to serious shit. I can post some shit right now that will have some of those same people looking at themselves in a whole nother way. I dare a mofo come at me I have internet reciepts:yes:
 
That Lisa chick wasn't a very good

actor either. So many other women

could have played that roll better. :dunno:
 
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