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The New York Times
By JANE PERLEZ , PIR ZUBAIR SHAH
and ISMAIL KHAN
October 27, 2008


PESHAWAR, Pakistan — An American drone aircraft hit a militant compound in South Waziristan Sunday night, killing 20 people, including two important local Taliban commanders known for their attacks against American soldiers in Afghanistan, a senior government official and a local resident said.

One of the dead commanders, Eida Khan, was wanted by the Americans for his cross-border attacks from bases in Waziristan, the government official said. Another, Wahweed Ullah, worked with Arabs who were part of Al Qaeda, the local resident said.

Mr. Ullah, in his late 20s, was known as an ideologically committed fighter who specialized in attacks against Americans in Afghanistan, the resident said.

The drone launched a missile attack on a compound in the village of Manduta, close to Wana, the capital of South Waziristan, about 20 miles from the Afghanistan border.

Mr. Khan and Mr. Ullah, as well as two brothers of Mr. Khan, were affiliated with the militant network of Jalaluddin Haqqani, a senior Taliban figure with close connections to Al Qaeda, said the official and the local resident, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The strike was part of an escalating campaign by the Bush administration to hit the Taliban and their Al Qaeda backers at their bases in the tribal belt.

The latest strike appears to have been the 19th by pilotless Predator aircraft in the tribal areas since the beginning of August. In the first seven months of 2008, there were five strikes.

The Bush administration has intensified the drone attacks after backing away from using American commandos for ground raids into the tribal belt. A ground assault on September 3 produced an angry public riposte from the chief of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who said he would defend Pakistan’s borders “at all costs” against such intrusions, an unusually strong statement from one ally to another.

Mr. Ullah, who is usually in North Waziristan, was believed to have been visiting the compound in Manduta to pay respects to the families of those killed in an American drone strike on Friday on a madrassa in North Waziristan run by Mr. Haqqani.

The people killed in the North Waziristan strike came from the area around Manduta in South Waziristan, the government official and local resident said.

Mr. Khan was well known to the Pakistani authorities. He was arrested in 2004 and jailed until last year when he was released under a prisoner exchange, the government official said.

While the drone attacks appear to be more acceptable to the Pakistani authorities than ground incursions, government officials have complained about the intensity of the strikes and the choice of targets by the Americans.

The Americans were concentrating on Taliban and Al Qaeda forces that hurt American and coalition troops in Afghanistan but were ignoring militants targeting Pakistan, a senior Pakistani official in the administration that oversees the tribal region said Monday.

“The Americans are not interested in our bad guys,” the official said. He was referring in particular to Baitullah Mehsud, a Pakistani Taliban leader, who is said by Pakistani authorities to be responsible for many of the suicide bombings of the last 18 months.

The Pakistani army is fighting the Pakistani Taliban in Bajaur, another part of the tribal region to the east of Waziristan, and that conflict appeared to be on the verge of spreading Monday after a suicide bomber rammed his car into a checkpoint manned by paramilitary forces in the Mohmand region.

The attack was the first in Mohmand, an area adjacent to Bajaur. It killed nine troops, the government said.

The Pakistani Army has said it planned to launch a campaign against the Taliban in Mohmand once it has completed its mission in Bajaur.

The conflict in the tribal region was discussed at a government-sponsored gathering of tribal leaders from Pakistan and Afghanistan in Islamabad Monday. The meeting, known as a mini-jirga, is part of a dialogue initiated last year by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The emphasis at the meeting was on talks between those Taliban willing to renounce violence and the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan. The fact the gathering took place was seen as a sign that the new Pakistani government is willing to participate in a process that had been largely ignored by the former president, Pervez Musharraf.

The foreign minister of Pakistan, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, echoing a parliamentary resolution last week that encouraged dialogue with willing militants, said: “There is an increasing realization that the use of force alone cannot yield the desired results.”

Jane Perlez and Ismail Khan reported from Peshawar, Pakistan, and Pir Zubair Shah reported from Islamabad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/world/asia/28pstan.html
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Syrian villagers carry coffins during a mass funeral for victims of a raid in
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2008. The posters read, "No to American aggression" and "No to killing
Syrian innocents". REUTERS/Khaled al-Hariri



Reuters
By Marwan Makdessi
Mon Oct 27, 2008


DAMASCUS (Reuters) - Syria accused the United States on Monday of carrying out a "terrorist aggression" after a deadly raid near its border with Iraq which it said killed eight civilians.

"The Americans do it in the daylight. This means it is not a mistake, it is by blunt determination. For that we consider this criminal and terrorist aggression," Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem told a news conference in London.

The Iraqi government said Sunday's strike in the Albou Kamal area in eastern Syria, targeted insurgents who attack Iraq.

Moualem said Syria would ask the United States and Iraq for an investigation into the attack.

"We put the responsibility on the American government and the need to investigate and return back to us with the result and explanation why they did it," Moualem said.

"We ask the Iraqi government also to investigate," he said, adding that Iraqi's territories should not be used "to launch aggression against Syria."

Washington has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility for Sunday's raid. If confirmed, it would be the first such U.S. military strike inside Syria since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

"I will say this once and you can ask me as many times as you want to: I have no comment on any alleged operation in Syria," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said.

"Iraq had asked Syria to hand over this group, which uses Syria as a base for its terrorist activities," Dabbagh said. He did not say who had carried out the raid inside Syria.


INSURGENTS "LIVE OPENLY" IN SYRIA

A U.S. general said last week that U.S. and Iraqi security measures had reduced the flow of insurgents from Syria.

"The Iraqi security forces and the Iraqi intelligence forces feel that al Qaeda operatives and others operate, live pretty openly on the Syrian side," Marine Major General John Kelly, who commands U.S. forces in western Iraq, told reporters.

"And periodically we know that they try to come across," he said, citing a May 2 raid that killed 11 Iraqi police.

Syrian Interior Minister Bassam Abdel Majeed said last week that his country "refuses to be a launching pad for threats against Iraq."

Khiyami said Syrian authorities were still awaiting word on the raid from the United States before deciding how to respond and whether to complain to the U.N. Security Council.

U.S. forces in western Iraq denied involvement. But the mayor of the Iraqi border town of Qaim told Reuters on Sunday that U.S. helicopters had struck a village on the Syrian side.

Reuters Television footage showed a small fenced farm and a truck riddled with bullet holes. Blood stained the ground. Syrian state television showed a building site and a nearby tent with food and blankets. Spent bullets lay around.

The official Syrian news agency SANA quoted a survivor, Souad al-Jasim, as saying that U.S. soldiers fired on her and her children in the tent. "Then they opened fire on the workers on site," she said. Jasim's husband was killed in the attack. One of her children was wounded.

Thousands of people attended a funeral held for those killed in the raid, SANA said.

Syria's foreign ministry summoned the U.S. charge d'affaires in Damascus on Sunday to protest. Syria has also urged the Iraqi government to carry out an immediate inquiry into the attack.

Russia condemned the assault. "It is obvious that such unilateral military actions have a sharply negative effect on the situation in the region, and widen the seat of dangerous armed tension," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

The Arab League also denounced the raid and called for an investigation.

(Additional reporting by Samia Nakhoul and Mark Trevelyan in London, Mariam Karouny in Baghdad, Will Rasmussen in Cairo, Christian Lowe in Moscow and Andrew Gray in Washington; Writing by Yara Bayoumy)


http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE49P2N520081027?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
 
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Mon Oct 27, 2008

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia accused the United States of fuelling dangerous
tension in the Middle East on Monday after Syria said that U.S. helicopters had
attacked a farm near the border with Iraq.

"Moscow has responded with great concern to what happened," the Russian
Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"We believe attacks that are worthy of condemnation should not be launched
on the territory of sovereign states under the slogan of the fight against
terrorism."

"It is obvious that such unilateral military actions have a sharply negative effect
on the situation in the region, and widen the seat of dangerous armed tension."

The United States, which accuses Syria of failing to stem the flow of al Qaeda
fighters and other insurgents into Iraq to attack U.S. forces, has neither confirmed
nor denied the incident.

Syria said eight people were killed and accused the United States of
committing a "terrible crime."

Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad visited Moscow in August and was among the first
foreign leaders to back Russia's military intervention in Georgia, an operation
Western states condemned as disproportionate.

Russian media reports said Damascus was seeking to buy missile systems from
Moscow.


http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE49Q4CZ20081027
 
Wow@Kucinich, putting his neck out there. It would seem, that he is hinting towards an orchestrated terrorist incident or state of emergency being declared around election time, in the United States..!!


I would be more inclined to believe his claim were true, if the United States had gone into Mexico and done the same, afterall, cartels are becoming more violent and more bold. That would be closer to home and perhaps more attention should be given to securing the boarders, not only with patrols but deadly force with armed trespassers...
 
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Rand Paul: My colleagues just voted to arm the allies of al Qaeda

Rand Paul: My colleagues just voted to arm the allies of al Qaeda
Posted By John Hudson
Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 5:51 PM

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) blasted members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday, which voted overwhelmingly to arm elements of the Syrian opposition in a bill co-sponsored by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN). "This is an important moment," Paul said, addressing his Senate colleagues. "You will be funding, today, the allies of al Qaeda. It's an irony you cannot overcome."

The legislation, which would authorize the shipment of arms and military training to rebels "that have gone through a thorough vetting process," passed in a bipartisan 15-3 vote. Paul offered an amendment that would strike the bill's weapons provision, but it was rejected along with another Paul amendment ruling out the authorization of the use of military force in Syria. (Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy was the only senator to join Paul in support of the weapons amendment.)

Paul's two amendments constituted his first legislative act to soften the Menendez-Corker bill, which earned the support of powerful lawmakers from Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) to Barbara Boxer (D-CA) to Marco Rubio (R-FL) -- all of whom rejected Paul's allegations. "I don't think any member of this committee would vote for anything we thought was going to arm al Qaeda," said Rubio. "Al Qaeda, unfortunately, is well-armed," added Menendez. "That is the present reality in Syria."

The dispute centers on the issue of whether the United States could properly vet Syrian rebels so that weapons and body armor would not fall into the hands of extremist groups, such as the al Qaeda-aligned al-Nusra Front. The Pentagon's top brass has vacillated about whether it's logistically possible to keep track of weapons as they enter a conflict involving a complex mix of opposition groups, as the new bill would require.

Corker added that not arming rebel groups such as the more moderate Free Syrian Army would ensure the dominance of the better-equipped al-Nusra Front. Paul responded, saying, "It's impossible to know who our friends are ... I know everyone here wants to do the right thing, but I think it's a rush to war."

To get a sense of how adamant the committee is to authorize more aggressive intervention in Syria, an amendment offered by Sen. Tom Udall (D-NM) to limit the types of weapons delivered to rebels was forcefully rejected as well. "The senator from New Mexico wants to use shotguns against SCUD missiles," McCain said dismissively.

The bill now includes an amendment by Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA), that would "require the administration to impose sanctions on entities that provide surface-to-surface or surface-to-air missiles, like the SA20s or S300s, to the Assad regime," according to a press release -- a clear reference to Russia, which has vowed in recent weeks to proceed with sales of advanced missiles that would extend the range and sophistication of the Syrian regime's anti-aircraft systems.

The Menendez-Corker bill next moves to the Senate floor, but an aide to Menendez said it was uncertain when Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, whose office did not respond to a request for comment, will take up the legislation.

Observers say the bill's chances of passing in its current form are slim, but it does increase the pressure on the administration to intervene more aggressively. As Andrew Tabler, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy noted earlier this month, "If you want to pressure the president into acting, it's a pretty good bill ...The last time the Hill moved on Syria was sanctions on Syrian oil in the summer of 2011. That pressured the president to move, and this could too."

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/p...gues_just_voted_to_arm_the_allies_of_al_qaeda
 
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