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Washington Post
By Robin Wright and Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 27, 2008; Page A01

The United States has escalated its unilateral strikes against al-Qaeda members and fighters operating in Pakistan's tribal areas, partly because of anxieties that Pakistan's new leaders will insist on scaling back military operations in that country, according to U.S. officials.

Washington is worried that pro-Western President Pervez Musharraf, who has generally supported the U.S. strikes, will almost certainly have reduced powers in the months ahead, and so it wants to inflict as much damage as it can to al-Qaeda's network now, the officials said.

Over the past two months, U.S.-controlled Predator aircraft are known to have struck at least three sites used by al-Qaeda operatives. The moves followed a tacit understanding with Musharraf and Army chief Gen. Ashfaq Kiyani that allows U.S. strikes on foreign fighters operating in Pakistan, but not against the Pakistani Taliban, the officials said.

About 45 Arab, Afghan and other foreign fighters have been killed in the attacks, all near the Afghan border, U.S. and Pakistani officials said. The goal was partly to jar loose information on senior al-Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants, by forcing them to move in ways that U.S. intelligence analysts can detect. Local sources are providing better information to guide the strikes, the officials said.

A senior U.S. official called it a "shake the tree" strategy. It has not been without controversy, others said. Some military officers have privately cautioned that airstrikes alone -- without more U.S. special forces soldiers on the ground in the region -- are unlikely to net the top al-Qaeda leaders.

The campaign is not designed to capture bin Laden before Bush leaves office, administration officials said. "It's not a blitz to close this chapter," said a senior official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of ongoing operations. "If we find the leadership, then we'll go after it. But nothing can be done to put al-Qaeda away in the next nine or 10 months. In the long haul, it's an issue that extends beyond this administration."

Musharraf, who controls the country's military forces, has long approved U.S. military strikes on his own. But senior officials in Pakistan's leading parties are now warning that such unilateral attacks -- including the Predator strikes launched from bases near Islamabad and Jacobabad in Pakistan -- could be curtailed.

"We have always said that as for strikes, that is for Pakistani forces to do and for the Pakistani government to decide. . . . We do not envision a situation in which foreigners will enter Pakistan and chase targets," said Farhatullah Babar, a top spokesman for the Pakistan People's Party, whose leader, Yousaf Raza Gillani, is the new prime minister. "This war on terror is our war."

Leaders of Gillani's party say they are interested in starting talks with local Taliban leaders and giving a political voice to the millions who live in Pakistan's tribal areas. U.S. Deputy Secretary of State John D. Negroponte and Assistant Secretary of State Richard A. Boucher heard the message directly yesterday from tribal elders in the village of Landi Kotal in the Khyber area.

"We told the visiting U.S. guests that the traditional jirga [tribal decision-making] system should be made effective to eliminate the causes of militancy and other problems from the tribal areas," said Malik Darya Khan, an elder. "We also told them that we have some disgruntled brothers" -- an indirect reference to local Taliban and militants -- who should be pulled into the mainstream through negotiations and dialogue, he said.

"The tribal turmoil can be resolved only through negotiations, not with military operations," Khan added. But he and others have said little specifically about how the new government should cope with foreign fighters, causing the Bush administration to engage in heavy lobbying on that issue.

President Bush called Gillani on Tuesday, for example, to stress the importance of the U.S.-Pakistani alliance and to emphasize that "fighting extremists is in everyone's interest," a White House spokesman said.

Daniel Markey, a former State Department policy planning staffer who is now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said "the new faces" in Pakistan's leadership "are not certain how they want to manage their relationship with the United States. You can't blame them," because they are pulled in opposite directions by their electorate and the Bush administration.

But Kamran Bokhari, a Pakistani who directs Middle East analysis for Strategic Forecasting, a private intelligence group in Washington, said the new government will almost certainly take a harder line against such strikes. "These . . . are very unpopular, not because people support al-Qaeda, but because they feel Pakistan has no sovereignty," he said.

The latest Predator strike, on March 16, killed about 20 in Shahnawaz Kot; a Feb. 28 strike killed 12 foreign militants in the village of Kaloosha; and a Jan. 29 strike killed 13 people, including senior al-Qaeda commander Abu Laith al-Libi, in North Waziristan.

U.S. intelligence officials estimate that al-Qaeda has several hundred operatives in the Waziristan tribal region. "But as we learned on 9/11, it only takes 19," said the senior U.S. official. "These are not Tora Bora bomb-everything operations," he added, referring to the blanket bombing of Afghanistan's mountainous area where al-Qaeda leaders were hiding in late 2001.

A spokesman at CIA headquarters declined to comment on the strikes. The agency officially maintains a policy of strict secrecy regarding its counterterrorism operations in the border region and does not announce Predator strikes.

But other U.S. officials said that after months of prodding, the Bush administration and the Musharraf government this year reached a tacit understanding that gave Washington a freer hand to carry out precision strikes against al-Qaeda and its allies in the border region. The issue is a sensitive one that neither side is willing to discuss openly, the officials said.

Asked to comment, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell denied that the two governments have an "arrangement" or an "understanding." But he said that they face a mutual enemy and that "everything we do to go after terrorists operating there is in consultation and coordination with the Pakistani government."

Thomas H. Johnson, a research professor at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif., said: "People inside the Beltway are aware that Musharraf's days are numbered, and so they recognize they may only have a few months to do this. Musharraf has . . . very few friends in the world -- he probably has more inside the Beltway than in his own country."

The administration's intensified effort against al-Qaeda also has benefited from shifting loyalties among residents of the border region. Some tribal and religious leaders who embraced foreign al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters as they fled from Afghanistan in 2001 now see them as troublemakers and are providing timely intelligence about their movements and hideouts, according to former U.S. officials and Pakistan experts.

"They see traffic coming and going from the fortress homes of tribal leaders associated with foreign elements, and they pass the information along," said Shuja Nawaz, a Pakistani journalist in Washington and the author of a book on Pakistan's army. "Some quick surveillance is done, and then someone pops a couple of hundred-pound bombs at the house."

Yet despite a series of strikes, some U.S. military officers and experts question whether the strategy will be effective and worth its political costs.

"Jarring information loose is a method, but is it the most productive method? No. You need exploitation, troops on the ground. It's a huge operational stress, and it's probably not going to get the senior leadership," said a military officer with long experience in the region.

Local politicians also complain that the strikes only encourage militants to undertake retaliatory actions in urban areas. The politicians point to the recent string of suicide bombings of high-profile government targets in Rawalpindi, Lahore and Islamabad as evidence that militants are determined to take revenge for losses in the tribal areas.

"There's no way Pakistan can afford to follow a policy that is causing a war at home," said Khawaja Imran Raza, a top spokesman for former prime minister Nawaz Sharif's Pakistan Muslim League-N faction. "There's a need to revisit the policy and there's a need to reassess because the domestic cost is so huge. We have lost a prime minister -- our top opposition leader. We have lost generals, and just look at our losses in Lahore."

In 2005, the United States also attacked al-Qaeda sites in tribal areas, killing top operative Abu Hamza Rabia. In 2006, a Predator strike targeting three top al-Qaeda operatives killed only local villagers.

U.S. strategy could backfire if missiles take innocent lives. "The [tribal] Pashtuns have a saying: 'Kill one person, make 10 enemies,' " Johnson said. "You might take out a bad guy in one of these strikes, but you might also be creating more foot soldiers. This is a war in which the more people you kill, the faster you lose."

Correspondent Candace Rondeaux in Islamabad and special correspondent Imtiaz Ali in Peshawar, Pakistan, contributed to this report.

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McClatchy Newspapers
By Saeed Shah and Jonathan S. Landay
Wednesday, June 11, 2008

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A U.S. airstrike that killed 11 Pakistani paramilitary troops on the border with Afghanistan has dealt a new blow to already strained U.S.-Pakistani military relations.

Pakistan contended Wednesday that the Tuesday night strike was deliberate and unprovoked. The United States called it a legitimate response to an attack by militants on an American unit, and said the U.S. operation had been coordinated in advance with the Pakistanis.

"This was on purpose," Pakistan's military spokesman, Maj. General Athar Abbas, told McClatchy Newspapers. "There was no engagement on our side. We consider this a deliberate act of aggression. I'm dumbfounded."

"It's a disaster," Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general, told McClatchy after the Tuesday night incident. "How can we call ourselves allies when this sort of thing happens? This will create greater mistrust. The only beneficiaries will be the militants."

The vehemence of the Pakistani official reaction was the latest sign of growing tensions with the United States.

U.S. officials in Washington say they fear that the Pakistani army is pulling back its counter-insurgency cooperation with the United States even as attacks on U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan are rising. Al Qaida, meanwhile, is using its refuge in the tribal areas to plot strikes on U.S. and other targets.

The officials pointed to cease-fires the Pakistani army has reached with militant groups, and the army's refusal for the past three months to attend meetings with senior U.S. and Afghan officials of a commission that coordinates efforts to stop insurgents from crossing the rugged border into Afghanistan.

U.S. Army Gen. David McKiernan quietly visited Pakistan to discuss the issue and other matters after taking command of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan last week, said the U.S. officials, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

The rhetoric used by the Pakistani military Wednesday was the harshest it has leveled since the U.S. intervention in Afghanistan in 2001. The airstrike was a "completely unprovoked and cowardly act" which "hit at the very basis of cooperation and sacrifice with which Pakistani soldiers are supporting the Coalition in the war against terror," asserted the statement issued by the military's Inter-Services Public Affairs.

The Foreign Ministry blasted the attack as "a senseless use of air power" that "tends to undermine the very basis of our cooperation with the coalition forces."

Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir summoned U.S. Ambassador Anne Patterson to deliver what was described as a "strong" formal protest, and the U.S. Embassy issued a statement expressing regret for those killed and condolences to their families.

But the U.S. military defended the operation, saying it was launched after U.S.-led coalition forces engaged in an operation "previously coordinated with Pakistan" were attacked by "anti-Afghan forces" about 200 yards inside Afghanistan's Kunar Province.

"Every indication we have is that it was a legitimate strike in self-defense against forces that had attacked the coalition forces," said Pentagon spokesman Jeff Morrell. ``Our forces came under attack, came under fire from forces that had come over from the Pakistani side into Afghan territory, and then retreated into Pakistani territory and continued to fire upon our forces, even though we did not pursue them into Pakistan."

A U.S. military statement said the firefight occurred in a wooded area near the Gorparai checkpoint just inside Mohmand, one of seven agencies that comprise the semi-autonomous Federally Administered Tribal Areas, or FATA.

The checkpoint was manned by the Mohmand Rifles, a unit of the Frontier Corps, a paramilitary formation recruited from among the region's tribes that the United States plans to train in counter-insurgency operations.

"In self defense, coalition forces fired artillery rounds at the militants," the statement said. "An unmanned aerial system identified additional anti-Afghan forces joining the attack against the coalition forces."

The U.S. unit then called in the strike by two U.S. F-15s, said a U.S. defense official.

The attack killed 11 members of the Mohmand Rifles, including a major, and injured 13 others, the Pakistani military said.

Pakistan television showed pictures of the checkpoint's smoldering bunkers and flag-draped coffins containing the bodies of the troopers arriving at the airport in Peshawar, the capital of North West Frontier Province.

Many details of the incident remained sketchy.

A U.S. defense official in Washington said that there was "roughly a two-hour gap" between the initial attack on the U.S. unit and the retaliatory artillery fire and air strike.

The downturn in military-to-military relations follows February elections that ended eight years of military rule under President Pervez Musharraf, a former army chief hailed by the Bush administration as a "indispensable" ally in its "war on terrorism" but disparaged by the majority of his countrymen.

But the new coalition government has been feuding over Musharraf's future and the fate of dozens of senior judges he ousted, leaving the military to conduct policy in the FATA.

U.S. commanders complain that the Pakistani army has failed to take forceful action against al Qaida, which is believed to be using the FATA as a refuge, or against the Taliban and other Afghan and Pakistani Islamic militants also based there.

"I believe fundamentally if the United States is going to get hit, it is going to come out of the planning of the leadership in the FATA, Al-Qaeda specifically," Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Tuesday. "That is a threat to us that must be dealt with."

U.S. commanders also say that the peace deals negotiated by the Pakistani army have enabled militants to step up their attacks on Afghan and coalition forces inside Afghanistan.

Some U.S. officers in Afghanistan contend that current and former Pakistani army, intelligence and paramilitary officers have secretly continued to aid the insurgents despite Islamabad's avowed support for the Bush administration's "war on terror."

"Their policy for the last four years can be generously described as duplicitous," Army Col. Thomas Lynch, a visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution, a public policy institute in Washington, told McClatchy this week.

Earlier this week, a Pentagon-commissioned study by the RAND Corporation, a U.S. research group, concluded that individuals in the Pakistan government are providing assistance to Taliban fighters in Afghanistan.

Islamabad vehemently denies the charges, and the Pakistani military accuses U.S.-led NATO forces of fanning the insurgency through an over-use of firepower that's claimed the lives of civilian Pashtuns, the ethnic group that comprises the bulk of the insurgents, on both sides of the frontier.

It also complains that it's lost thousands of troops deployed at the Bush administration's request to contain the militants.

(Shah, a McClatchy special correspondent, reported from Islamabad. Landay reported from Washington. Nancy A. Youssef contributed.)

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By Jonathan S. Landay and Saeed Shah
Monday, July 28, 2008

WASHINGTON — A U.S. missile strike that's believed to have killed a senior al Qaida operative in Pakistan's tribal area roiled talks Monday between President Bush and Pakistani Prime Minister Sayed Yousaf Gilani, who reproached Bush for acting unilaterally and failing to share intelligence with Pakistani authorities.

A U.S. official defended the missile strike as a message that Washington will no longer abide Pakistan's failure to deny al Qaida and the Taliban refuge at a time of surging cross-border attacks on U.S., NATO and Afghan forces in Afghanistan.

"If they (Pakistan) aren't doing anything, then we are," said the official, who requested anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss the issue publicly.

Pakistan, however, considers U.S. strikes on its territory violations of its sovereignty and interference in its internal affairs.

Gilani, appearing on CNN, said he told Bush, "This action should not be taken by the United States" and, "It's our job because we are fighting the war for ourselves."

He also called for "more cooperation on the intelligence side" and said that any "credible and actionable information" should be given to Pakistan."

The Pakistani military complained bitterly.

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Two U.S. officials said that a senior al Qaida explosives expert, Midhat Mursi al Sayid Umar, was believed to be among those who were killed when missiles fired by an unmanned U.S. aircraft hit a religious school in Azem Warsak, a village in Pakistan's South Waziristan tribal agency.

The U.S. officials requested anonymity because the operation was classified.

A total of six people were killed in the operation, according to state-run Pakistan television.

Before he clashed with Bush, Gilani lost a major confrontation with his own military over the weekend. U.S. analysts said the Pakistani leader is nearly powerless to do anything, partly because the coalition he heads remains in disarray, divided over the future of President Pervez Musharraf, the former army chief who seized power in a 1998 coup, and the reinstatement of scores of judges whom Musharraf ousted last year.

Moreover, the Pakistani military has made it clear that it won't bow to the authority of the Gilani's coalition, which was formed after parliamentary polls in February.

Gilani's government on Sunday abruptly reversed a decision announced a day earlier to place the powerful military intelligence agency, the Inter Services Intelligence Directorate, or ISI, under the control of the civilian Interior Ministry.

The decision "came as a surprise, and we informed the government of our reservations," said Pakistani Army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas.

Pakistani news reports said that the government's about-face came after Gilani got emergency calls from Musharraf and the Army chief of staff, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani.

"They (the government) have made fools of themselves," said Talat Masoud, a retired Pakistani general and defense analyst. "It shows the weakness of the civilians and how much the military remains in charge."

The White House, the Pentagon and the CIA refused to comment on the missile attack, the latest in a series of U.S. missile and air strikes on purported terrorist sites in the tribal area that also have killed civilians and Pakistani security personnel.

Mursi, an Egyptian with a $5 million U.S. bounty on his head, trained al Qaida and Taliban fighters in bomb-making. He ran a camp in eastern Afghanistan before the 2001 U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in which he oversaw the manufacture of crude chemical weapons, according to the National Counter-Terrorism Center.

His best-known pupils reportedly include Zacharias Moussaoui, who pleaded guilty in 2005 to plotting to hijack planes and kill Americans, and Richard Reid, a Briton who tried to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight by igniting explosives hidden in his sneakers.

U.S. military and intelligence officials blame an upsurge in attacks on U.S.-led NATO and Afghan security forces in Afghanistan on truces the Pakistani military forged with militant groups, freeing Islamic fighters to join the Taliban insurgency.

Some U.S. officials believe the groups receive support from sympathetic Pakistani officers, a charge Islamabad denies, but an issue that Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice were expected to discuss in separate meetings with Gilani.

Appearing briefly on the south lawn of the White House, Bush praised Gilani for his "very strong commitment" to fighting terrorism preventing infiltration into Afghanistan.

"We talked about the common threat we face:�extremists who are very dangerous people.�We talked about the need for us to make sure that the Afghan border is secure as best as possible," said Bush. "The U.S., I repeat, respects the sovereignty of this democracy."

Gilani reiterated his government's resolve to "fight against those extremists and terrorists who are destroying and making the world not safe."

(Shah, a McClatchy special correspondent, reported from Islamabad, Pakistan.)


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Pakistan orders end to foreign incursions

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's military chief said Wednesday that no foreign forces will be allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan in light of last week's "reckless" U.S. military ground operation. Pakistan's "territorial integrity ... will be defended at all cost and no external force is allowed to conduct operations ... inside Pakistan," according to a military statement attributed to Chief of Army Staff Gen. Parvez Kayani, who succeeded Pervez Musharraf after he stepped down as Pakistan's army chief last year.

The announcement came as Pakistan's military resumed its battle against Taliban militants in its tribal region, two army spokesmen said. More than 20 militants and four security forces were killed in Monday's fighting in Bajaur Agency, they said.

The anti-Taliban operation was initiated August 6 but was suspended September 1 for the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, with the exception that security forces would respond if attacked.

A ground incursion last week by U.S. forces into Pakistan strained relations between the two countries. Pakistan summoned the U.S. ambassador in Islamabad to complain about the incident, which it said killed 15 civilians.

The Pentagon has not confirmed the raid, but a senior U.S. official who declined to be named told CNN's Barbara Starr that U.S. helicopters dropped troops into the village of Angoor Adda in South Waziristan, which borders Afghanistan. The official said there was no evidence of any civilian deaths. The U.S. official said the operation was launched fairly quickly without formal permission from Pakistan's government after it became clear that there was sufficient intelligence to take the risk of putting U.S. troops on the ground in a potentially hostile area of Pakistan.

In the U.S., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Michael Mullen, warned Congress on Wednesday that cross-border attacks into Afghanistan by militants in Pakistan's tribal region are a problem and said the U.S. has deployed Predator drones to attack targets in Pakistan.

Mullen said Afghanistan can't be referenced without "speaking of Pakistan," where, he said, the militant groups collaborate and communicate better, launch more sophisticated attacks, employ foreign fighters and use civilians as human shields.

"In my view, these two nations are inextricably linked in a common insurgency that crosses the border between them," he said,

He added that the U.S. is "running out of time" to win the war in Afghanistan and that sending in more troops will not guarantee victory.

On Tuesday, President Bush announced the deployment of 4,500 additional troops in Afghanistan.
 
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Friday September 12 2008

A secret order issued by George Bush giving US special forces carte blanche to mount counter-terrorist operations inside Pakistani territory raised fears last night that escalating conflict was spreading from Afghanistan to Pakistan and could ignite a region-wide war.

The unprecedented executive order, signed by Bush in July after an intense internal administration debate, comes amid western concern that the war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and its al-Qaida backers based in "safe havens" in western Pakistan's tribal belt is being lost.

Following Bush's decision, US navy Seals commandos, backed by attack helicopters, launched a ground raid into Pakistan last week which the US claimed killed about two dozen insurgents. Pakistani officials condemned the raid as illegal and said most of the dead were civilians. US and Nato commanders are anxious to halt infiltration across the Afghanistan-Pakistan border of insurgents and weapons blamed for casualties among coalition troops. The killing of a US soldier in eastern Afghanistan yesterday brought American losses in 2008 to 112, the deadliest year since the 2001 intervention. The move is regarded as unprecedented in terms of sending troops into a friendly, allied country.

But another American objective is the capture of Osama bin Laden, the al-Qaida leader held responsible for organising the 9/11 attacks. He and his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are thought to be hiding in the tribal areas of north and south Waziristan.

Bush's decision to extend the war into Pakistan, and his apparent hope of British backing, formed the background to a video conference call with Gordon Brown yesterday. "What's happening on the border of Pakistan and Afghanistan is something where we need to develop a new strategy," Brown said before talking to Bush.

Brown said he would discuss the border issue with Pakistan's new president, Asif Ali Zardari, who visits Britain next week.

Bush's unusual move in personally calling the prime minister for an Afghan strategy discussion has led to speculation that the US president was trying to line up British support for the new policy, including the possible involvement of British special forces in future cross-border incursions.

Bush's executive order is certain to cause strains with some Nato allies fearful that a spreading conflict could bring down Pakistan's weak civilian government and spark a wider war. Last night there were indications of open disagreement.

James Appathurai, a Nato spokesman, said the alliance did not support cross-border attacks or deeper incursions in to Pakistani territory.

"The Nato policy, that is our mandate, ends at the border. There are no ground or air incursions by Nato forces into Pakistani territory," he said.

Nato has 53,000 troops in Afghanistan, some of which are American. But the US maintains a separate combat force dedicated to battling al-Qaida and counter-terrorism in general. Nato defence ministers are due to discuss Afghanistan in London next week.

Last week's raid, and a subsequent attack on Monday by a Predator drone firing Hellfire missiles, provoked protests across the board in Pakistan, with only Zardari among leading politicians refusing to publicly condemn it.

Pakistan's armed forces chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said the army would defend the country's sovereignty "at all costs". He went on: "No external force is allowed to conduct operations inside Pakistan."

He denied there was any agreement or understanding to the contrary. His comments were widely interpreted as a warning to Zardari not to submit to the American importunity. But his tough words also raised the prospect of clashes between US and Pakistani forces if American military incursions continue or escalate.

Until now, Washington has regarded Pakistan as a staunch ally in the "war on terror" that was launched in 2001. But the alliance has been weakened by last month's forced resignation of the army strongman, former general Pervez Musharraf, and his replacement by Zardari, Benazir Bhutto's widower.

Polls suggest most Pakistanis favour ending all counter-terrorism cooperation with Washington, which is blamed for a rising civilian casualty toll in Afghanistan and in the tribal areas.

Yousaf Raza Gilani, Pakistan's prime minister, joined the chorus of condemnation yesterday. He reportedly told state media Kayani's warning that unilateral US actions were undermining the fight against Islamist extremism represented the government's position.

Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the joint chiefs, and Robert Gates, defence secretary, told Congress this week that victory in Afghanistan was by no means certain and the US needed to take the fight to the enemy inside Pakistan.

Mullen called for a "more comprehensive strategy" embracing both sides of the border. "Until we work more closely with the Pakistani government to eliminate the safe havens from which they operate, the enemy will only keep coming," he said.

US and Pakistani forces have clashed by accident in the past during operations to root out militants, although sections of the Pakistani military and intelligence services are said to harbour deep resentment about perceived American interference.


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By Saeed Shah
September 16, 2008


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistani troops opened fire Monday on U.S. forces who were trying to enter the country's lawless tribal area, local officials said, marking a dangerous further deterioration in relations between the allies in the war on terrorism.

Both armies — and the Pentagon — denied that the reported incident had occurred, but local security officials and tribesmen in South Waziristan told McClatchy that two American helicopters had entered Pakistani airspace in the early hours and were forced to retreat when they came under fire.

Earlier this month, U.S. choppers flew in commandos who assaulted a compound that housed suspected militants, in the first documented American ground raid into the tribal territory, and it's possible that the latest reported operation followed the same pattern. Up to 20 people, including civilians, died in the earlier attack, enraging the Pakistani army and public.

One security official in South Waziristan, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity as he wasn't authorized to talk to the press, said: "American helicopters came and there was a space (border) violation. Pakistani scouts (paramilitary troops) fired artillery as a warning and they left. The helicopters did not land."

Other reports said that troops had directed gunfire at the helicopters, which were just inside Pakistani territory. The Reuters news agency quoted an official saying that the fire came from Pakistani soldiers based at a border checkpoint known as BP-27.

The Pakistani army acknowledged that a skirmish may have taken place but maintained that its soldiers weren't involved.

"The villagers had some firing incident, according to the reports I've received," said Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, the Pakistani army spokesman. "But who fired at who, I cannot confirm."

The American military said there hadn't been any operation.

"We did not have any forces or helicopters on or near the border," said Mark Swart, a spokesman for the American military at Bagram air base in Afghanistan. "I don't know where the reports are coming from."

The tribal area, which runs along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, serves as a haven for Taliban and al Qaida militants who are fighting U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

The New York Times, in a report last week that the administration didn't deny, said President Bush had signed a secret order approving the deployment of U.S. forces in Pakistan. However, Bush appears to have acted without considering the impact on Pakistani domestic politics. Last week, Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, announced plans to draft a new strategy for Afghanistan and the Pakistan border area. Pentagon officials told McClatchy they're currently operating without a strategic plan.

Analysts said that the new operations risked a confrontation between the Pakistani and American armies and threatened to overwhelm the new democratic government in Islamabad, which is already under enormous strain from the Islamist insurgency. As well as the unprecedented ground assault, there have been seven U.S. missile strikes in the tribal area over the last month, about the same number as all of last year. This represents an enormous step-up in American intervention in Pakistan and is reported to have killed dozens of civilians as well as suspected extremists.

"This kind of situation cannot go on, because any government in Pakistan will get destabilized," said Hasan Askari Rizvi, a security analyst based in the eastern city of Lahore. "This is what the Americans don't realize, that if there is an instability in Pakistan, their war on terror cannot be pursued. If everybody turns against America, then no (Pakistani) government will be in a position to support the war on terror."

"The new strategy must not load the dice against Pakistan further just for the sake of some putative gains in the electoral battle of the United States," said a commentary Monday in Pakistan's Daily Times newspaper by Tanvir Ahmad Khan, the former top bureaucrat in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. "American policy planners are thinking of that gain and not the future of Afghanistan or Pakistan. This has to change in the long-term interest of both Pakistan and the United States."

Pentagon officials said, however, that they no longer could wait for Pakistani officials to deal with groups along the border that threatened U.S. troops. Quietly, Defense Department officials dismiss the Pakistani government's response as aimed at domestic public opinion.

The U.S. interventions appear to have provoked another ominous development over the weekend. Moderate tribal chiefs in North Waziristan, the part of Pakistan's tribal area that the most recent U.S. missile struck, vowed to go fight American forces in Afghanistan, alongside the Taliban, if the U.S. doesn't halt cross-border attacks into Pakistan.

(Shah is a McClatchy special correspondent. Nancy A. Youssef contributed to this article from Washington.)

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Re: Pakistan orders end to foreign incursions

Isn't this the same thing the Russians did when Osama was backed by the US?
 
Re: Pakistan orders end to foreign incursions

The Pakistani attacked the Russians in the Tribal regions ???

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McClatchy Newspapers
By Saeed Shah
Wednesday, September 17, 2008


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A U.S. missile strike Wednesday in Pakistan further inflamed relations between the two anti-terrorism allies, just hours after the American military chief vowed to "respect Pakistan's sovereignty."

The strike against suspected militants in Pakistan's tribal area, which runs along the Afghan border, is thought to be the sixth such attack this month. It came as Washington is demanding that Islamabad do more to prevent Taliban and al Qaida extremists from using its territory.

Pakistani leaders have condemned the U.S. military interventions, which include the first documented American ground raid in the country earlier this month. The strikes have caused an uproar in Pakistan.

Four missiles were fired from unmanned U.S. aircraft Wednesday at a suspected militant hideout at around 7 p.m. local time in a village in South Waziristan, killing at least six people, according to a local security official, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity because he isn't authorized to talk to journalists.

American strikes were used infrequently in the tribal area in the past, but there's been an intensified bombardment over the last few weeks. Washington thinks that Taliban and al Qaida fighters allied against the coalition in Afghanistan are using Pakistan's tribal territory as a refuge. Some analysts think that the Bush administration is trying to land major al Qaida scalps before the end of his term. Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al Zawahri, are thought to be most likely hiding in the tribal area.

The target of Wednesday's strike is thought to be a compound used by Taliban and the Hezb-i-Islami, a militant group fighting in Afghanistan that's associated with the notorious veteran jihadist Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. The previous aerial assaults have killed militants, including senior al Qaida commanders, but also dozens of civilians.

Earlier in the day, U.S. Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who was making a surprise visit to Pakistan, said in a statement released by the American Embassy in Islamabad that he "reiterated the U.S. commitment to respect Pakistan's sovereignty and to develop further U.S.-Pakistani cooperation" after talks with his Pakistani counterpart, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani. A separate statement from the Pentagon made no mention of respecting Pakistani sovereignty.

Mullen's arrival appeared to be a reaction to the furor caused by the American ground incursion.

It was Mullen's fifth trip to Pakistan since he took the top military job last October, not counting a leaked secret meeting at sea with Kayani last month.

"I have been encouraged by what General Kayani and the Pakistani army have been willing to do in the border regions," the Pentagon quoted Mullen as saying. "They recognize the threat they face internal to Pakistan and are improving their counterinsurgency capabilities. This is a critical part of the world."

The Pakistani army has been engaged since early August in what looks like its strongest operation against militants in another part of the tribal area, Bajaur, where it claims that more than 500 extremists have been killed.

"Pakistan would not allow anyone to take action on its soil, as it has capacity to deal with the terrorists," said Pakistan's defense minister, Ahmed Mukhtar, who spoke before the fresh strike. "But we can't pick up guns and say, 'We're coming.' We have to proceed diplomatically."

Without Pakistan's help, U.S. and coalition forces have little hope of stemming supplies and militants crossing into Afghanistan from the tribal area, analysts think. There also are signs that the American assaults could trigger a mass uprising by moderate tribesman living in the tribal territory.

"It's a very fundamental issue of Pakistani sovereignty," said Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general turned analyst. "This just cannot be tolerated, that there are continued violations and we are still called an ally. I think this will have to be reviewed for the sake of both sides."

The United Nations mandate for Afghanistan, under which U.S. and other international forces operate, doesn't extend to Pakistan. Pakistan has tolerated occasional American missile strikes in its tribal areas for several years, but the scale of the current attacks, along with the first American boots on Pakistani soil, has pushed relations to a crisis point.

(Shah is a McClatchy special correspondent

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Pakistani and American Troops Exchange Fire

Pakistani and American Troops Exchange Fire​

By ERIC SCHMITT

WASHINGTON — Pakistani and American ground troops exchanged fire along the border with Afghanistan on Thursday after the Pakistanis shot at two American helicopters, ratcheting up tensions as the United States increases its attacks against militants from Al Qaeda and the Taliban, who are being sheltered in Pakistan’s restive tribal areas.

The two American OH-58 Kiowa reconnaissance helicopters were not damaged and no casualties were reported on either side from the ground fire. But American and Pakistani officials agreed on little else about what happened in the fleeting mid-afternoon clash between the allied troops.

American and NATO officials said that the two helicopters were flying about one mile inside Afghan air space to protect an American and Afghan patrol on the ground when the aircraft were fired on by small-caliber arms fire from a Pakistani military checkpoint near Tanai district in Khost Province.

In response, the American ground troops shot short bursts of warning fire, which hit well shy of the rocky, hilltop checkpoint, and the Pakistanis fired back, said Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a spokesman for the Central Command.

But a spokesman for the Pakistani army, Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas, said Pakistani forces fired warning shots at the American aircraft after they crossed into Pakistan’s territory in the area of Saidgai, in North Waziristan’s Ghulam Khan region. “On this, the helicopters returned fire and flew back,” General Abbas said.

Local residents said that one of the two helicopters had entered inside Pakistan territory by about a mile, while the other hovered on the Afghan side of the border.

“When our forces fired warning shots, we were a little scared of a possible retaliatory fire from the helicopters,” said one of the residents, Haji Said Rehman Gorbaz. “But we were happy to see the helicopter flying back into Afghanistan. We were happy that our forces fired at the helicopter.”

Pakistan’s president, Asif Ali Zardari, said Thursday that his nation’s military had fired only flares at the helicopters, seeming to draw a distinction with warning “shots,” which usually refers to bullets or other ordnance that could more seriously damage the helicopters.

“They are flares,” Mr. Zardari said as he sat down to meet Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on the fringes of the United Nations General Assembly in New York.

“They are flares just to make sure that they know they have crossed the borderline,” he added, noting that the Afghan-Pakistan frontier is a rugged, ill-marked division between the two nations.

“Sometimes the border is so mixed that they don’t realize that they crossed the border,” Mr. Zardari said.

Ms. Rice agreed that the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is “very, very unclear,” and “one of the most inhospitable places.”

But the clash drew immediate protest from Pentagon officials in Washington. “The flight path of the helicopters at no point took them over Pakistan,” a Pentagon spokesman, Bryan Whitman, told reporters at a briefing.

Mr. Whitman said United States and NATO military officials were speaking to their Pakistani counterparts to determine what happened and to ensure there was no repeat, adding, “The Pakistanis have to provide us with a better understanding of why this took place.”

General Abbas, the Pakistani spokesman, said the clash had been reported to NATO headquarters in Kabul and was under investigation by both Pakistani and NATO officials.

Although it lasted just a few minutes, military officials and diplomats said the brief clash showed there was a risk of a much more serious, and lethal, misunderstanding along the border.

Pakistani civilian leaders have denounced an incursion by American Special Operations forces into Pakistan on Sept. 3, which was authorized under orders given by President Bush in July, and the Pakistani Army has vowed to defend its border “at all costs.”

“We will not tolerate any act against our sovereignty and integrity in the name of the war against terrorism,” Pakistan’s prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, told reporters on Wednesday. “We are fighting extremism and terror not for any other country, but our own country.”


The latest clash on Thursday comes after a week of claims by Pakistani intelligence officials that American helicopters had strayed across the border from Pakistan, and that an American remotely piloted surveillance aircraft had crashed, apparently due to mechanical failure, on Pakistani territory.

American officials denied these claims, saying they were being manufactured by Pakistani officials in response to rising anti-American sentiment in Pakistan following the increased American activities in the border area.


Thom Shanker contributed reporting from New York. Salman Masood contributed reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan, and Ismail Khan from Peshawar, Pakistan.
 
New head of ISI; Karzai calls for Taliban talks

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Eric Margolis: Political stability is unattainable in Afghanistan without dialog with the Taliban

As the ongoing conflict in Pakistan and Afghanistan continue with coalition forces taking a beating, Eric Margolis believes that "there will never be stability in Afghanistan until the largest ethnic group is brought into the political process."



Eric Margolis is a journalist born in New York More.. City and holding degrees from Georgetown the University of Geneva, and New York University. During the Vietnam War he served as a US Army infantryman. Margolis is the author of War at the Top of the World –- The Struggle for Afghanistan and Asia is a syndicated columnist and broadcaster whose articles have appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The International Herald Tribune, Mainichi Shimbun and US Naval Institute Proceedings. Margolis is an expert of military affairs, a former instructor in strategy and tactics in the US Army, and a member of the International Institute of Strategic Studies and the Institute of Regional Studies in Islamabad, Pakistan. Eric Margolis' books have been published in the US, Canada, Britain, and India. He often appears and contributes to national and international news items for outlets such as CNN, ABC,CBC and Voice of America to the Wall Street Journal and Maninichi-Tokyo. He broadcasts regularly on foreign affairs for Canadian TV (TV Ontario and CBC), radio, and has appeared on ABC, CBS, CNN, and PBS


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Re: New head of ISI; Karzai calls for Taliban talks

NATO is finally coming to there senses.


NATO does not rule out Afghan talks with Taliban
by Jim MannionWed Oct 1, 2:44 PM ET

The general who commands NATO forces in Afghanistan called Wednesday for enlisting tribes to help pacify the country and did not rule out reconciliation with ousted Taliban leader Mullah Mohammad Omar.

General David McKiernan, the commander of the International Security Assistance Force, also said the coalition needs more troops for what he said is an increasingly "tough fight" in eastern and southern Afghanistan.

"And until we get to what I call a tipping point where the lead for security can be in the hands of the Afghan Army and the Afghan Police, there is going to be a need for the international community to provide military capabilities," he told reporters.

McKiernan has asked for four more US combat brigades, support forces, helicopters and reconnaissance, intelligence and surveillance capabilities.

McKiernan said that any reconciliation efforts should be led by the Afghan government, but that the military would support it.

Asked whether dealing with the man who harbored Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was beyond the pale, McKiernan said, "I think that's a political decision that will ultimately be made by political leadership."

Afghanistan's President Hamid Karzai said Tuesday that he has asked Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah to arrange talks with the Taliban so that Omar and other militia leaders could return home in peace.

"Ultimately, the solution in Afghanistan is going to be a political solution not a military solution," said McKiernan, who spoke to reporters at a Pentagon news conference.

"We're not going to run out of bad guys there that want to do bad things in Afghanistan," he said.

"So the idea that the government of Afghanistan will take on the idea of reconciliation, I think, is (an) approach and we'll be there to provide support within our mandate," he said.

His visit to Washington comes as the administration is conducting a wide-ranging strategy review prompted by rising insurgent violence in Afghanistan fueled from sanctuaries in neighboring Pakistan.

The Afghan national army is supposed to double in size to 134,000 troops in four years, but McKiernan said he did not know how long it would take to reach a point where international forces can shrink in size.

Drawing on the US experience in Iraq, however, McKiernan suggested that a rebalancing of power between the central government and the tribes could help provide security at a local level.

"And it seems to me that with the lead of the government of Afghanistan engaging those tribes and connecting them to governance, whether it's at the provincial level or the district level, seems to be a smart thing," he said.

He acknowledged that "that has to be done correctly or you get back into the problems of armed militias, of support to warlords, or corrupt practices."

But he said it should be left to the government in part because the tribal structure in Afghanistan is too complex and traumatized by 30 years of war for foreign military commanders to navigate.

McKiernan also emphasized the importance of a strategy that encompasses neighboring Pakistan.

He said he was encouraged by the Pakistani government's use of tribes there to go after militants in the tribal areas and its recent military operations in Bajaur, an insurgent stronghold.

But it was not yet clear whether it has an impact on the insurgency in Afghanistan, he said.

McKiernan said he would pursue a proposal raised last week by Afghanistan's defense minister for a combined Afghan-Pakistani-ISAF force able to operate on both sides the Afghan-Pakistani border.

He said it was a "very powerful idea" that the Pakistani might accept if it were "done the right way."


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McClatchy Newspapers
By Jonathan S. Landay
and John Walcott
Tuesday, October 14, 2008

WASHINGTON — A growing al Qaida-backed insurgency, combined with the Pakistani army's reluctance to launch an all-out crackdown, political infighting and energy and food shortages are plunging America's key ally in the war on terror deeper into turmoil and violence, says a soon-to-be completed U.S. intelligence assessment.

A U.S. official who participated in drafting the top secret National Intelligence Estimate said it portrays the situation in Pakistan as "very bad." Another official called the draft "very bleak," and said it describes Pakistan as being "on the edge."

The first official summarized the estimate's conclusions about the state of Pakistan as: "no money, no energy, no government."

Six U.S. officials who helped draft or are aware of the document's findings confirmed them to McClatchy on the condition of anonymity because NIEs are top secret and are restricted to the president, senior officials and members of Congress. An NIE's conclusions reflect the consensus of all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies.

The NIE on Pakistan, along with others being prepared on Afghanistan and Iraq, will underpin a "strategic assessment" of the situation that Army Gen. David Petraeus, who's about to take command of all U.S. forces in the region, has requested. The aim of the assessment — seven years after the U.S. sent troops into Afghanistan — is to determine whether a U.S. presence in the region can be effective and if so what U.S. strategy should be.

The findings also are intended to support the Bush administration's effort to recommend the resources the next president will need for Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan at a time the economic crisis is straining the Treasury and inflating the federal budget deficit.

The Afghanistan estimate warns that additional American troops are urgently needed there and that Islamic extremists who enjoy safe haven in Pakistan pose a growing threat to the U.S.-backed government of Afghan Prime Minister Hamid Karzai.

The Iraq NIE is more cautious about the prospects for stability there than the Bush administration and either John McCain or Barack Obama have been, and it raises serious questions about whether the U.S. will be able to redeploy a significant number of troops from Iraq to Afghanistan anytime soon.

Together, the three NIEs suggest that without significant and swift progress on all three fronts — which they suggest is uncertain at best — the U.S. could find itself facing a growing threat from al Qaida and other Islamic extremist groups, said one of the officials.

About the only good news in the Pakistan NIE is that it's "relatively sanguine" about the prospects of a Pakistani nuclear weapon, materials or knowledge falling into the hands of terrorists, said one official.

However, the draft NIE paints a grim picture of the situation in the impoverished, nuclear-armed country of 160 million, according to the U.S. officials who spoke to McClatchy.

The estimate says that the Islamist insurgency based in the Federally Administered Tribal Area bordering Afghanistan, the suspected safe haven of Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, is intensifying.

However, according to the officials, the draft also finds that the Pakistani military is reluctant to launch an all-out campaign against the Islamists in part because of popular opposition to continuing the cooperation with the U.S. that began under Pervez Musharraf, the U.S.-backed former president, after the 9/11 attacks.

Anti-U.S. and anti-government sentiments have grown recently, stoked by stepped-up cross-border U.S. missile strikes and at least one commando raid on suspected terrorist targets in the FATA that reportedly have resulted in civilian deaths.

The Pakistani military, which has lost hundreds of troops to battles and suicide bombings, is waging offensives against Islamist guerrillas in the Bajaur tribal agency and Swat, a picturesque region of the North West Frontier Province bordering Afghanistan. U.S. officials said insurgent attacks on Pakistani security forces provoked the Pakistani army operations.

The Pakistan general staff also remains concerned about what it considers an ongoing threat to its eastern border from its traditional foe, India, the draft NIE finds, according to the U.S. officials.

For these reasons, they said, the army chief of staff, Gen. Ashfaq Kayani, wants the new civilian coalition government of Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to provide the military with political cover by blessing a major anti-insurgency crackdown.

However, the ruling coalition, in which President Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of the late prime minister Benazir Bhutto, holds the real authority, has been preoccupied by other matters, according to the draft NIE.

These include efforts to consolidate its power after winning a struggle that prompted its main rival, the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, to leave the ruling coalition.

Moreover, widespread anti-U.S. anger has left the coalition deeply divided over whether to unleash a major military assault on the Islamists, the U.S. officials said.

The government is also facing an accelerating economic crisis that includes food and energy shortages, escalating fuel costs, a sinking currency and a massive flight of foreign capital accelerated by the escalating insurgency, the NIE warns.

The Pakistani public is clamoring for relief as the crisis pushes millions more into poverty, giving insurgent groups more opportunities to recruit young Pakistanis.

(Warren P. Strobel and Nancy A. Youssef contributed to this article.)

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The New York Times
By JANE PERLEZ , PIR ZUBAIR SHAH
and ISMAIL KHAN
October 27, 2008


PESHAWAR, Pakistan — An American drone aircraft hit a militant compound in South Waziristan Sunday night, killing 20 people, including two important local Taliban commanders known for their attacks against American soldiers in Afghanistan, a senior government official and a local resident said.

One of the dead commanders, Eida Khan, was wanted by the Americans for his cross-border attacks from bases in Waziristan, the government official said. Another, Wahweed Ullah, worked with Arabs who were part of Al Qaeda, the local resident said.

Mr. Ullah, in his late 20s, was known as an ideologically committed fighter who specialized in attacks against Americans in Afghanistan, the resident said.

The drone launched a missile attack on a compound in the village of Manduta, close to Wana, the capital of South Waziristan, about 20 miles from the Afghanistan border.

Mr. Khan and Mr. Ullah, as well as two brothers of Mr. Khan, were affiliated with the militant network of Jalaluddin Haqqani, a senior Taliban figure with close connections to Al Qaeda, said the official and the local resident, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The strike was part of an escalating campaign by the Bush administration to hit the Taliban and their Al Qaeda backers at their bases in the tribal belt.

The latest strike appears to have been the 19th by pilotless Predator aircraft in the tribal areas since the beginning of August. In the first seven months of 2008, there were five strikes.

The Bush administration has intensified the drone attacks after backing away from using American commandos for ground raids into the tribal belt. A ground assault on September 3 produced an angry public riposte from the chief of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who said he would defend Pakistan’s borders “at all costs” against such intrusions, an unusually strong statement from one ally to another.

Mr. Ullah, who is usually in North Waziristan, was believed to have been visiting the compound in Manduta to pay respects to the families of those killed in an American drone strike on Friday on a madrassa in North Waziristan run by Mr. Haqqani.

The people killed in the North Waziristan strike came from the area around Manduta in South Waziristan, the government official and local resident said.

Mr. Khan was well known to the Pakistani authorities. He was arrested in 2004 and jailed until last year when he was released under a prisoner exchange, the government official said.

While the drone attacks appear to be more acceptable to the Pakistani authorities than ground incursions, government officials have complained about the intensity of the strikes and the choice of targets by the Americans.

The Americans were concentrating on Taliban and Al Qaeda forces that hurt American and coalition troops in Afghanistan but were ignoring militants targeting Pakistan, a senior Pakistani official in the administration that oversees the tribal region said Monday.

“The Americans are not interested in our bad guys,” the official said. He was referring in particular to Baitullah Mehsud, a Pakistani Taliban leader, who is said by Pakistani authorities to be responsible for many of the suicide bombings of the last 18 months.

The Pakistani army is fighting the Pakistani Taliban in Bajaur, another part of the tribal region to the east of Waziristan, and that conflict appeared to be on the verge of spreading Monday after a suicide bomber rammed his car into a checkpoint manned by paramilitary forces in the Mohmand region.

The attack was the first in Mohmand, an area adjacent to Bajaur. It killed nine troops, the government said.

The Pakistani Army has said it planned to launch a campaign against the Taliban in Mohmand once it has completed its mission in Bajaur.

The conflict in the tribal region was discussed at a government-sponsored gathering of tribal leaders from Pakistan and Afghanistan in Islamabad Monday. The meeting, known as a mini-jirga, is part of a dialogue initiated last year by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The emphasis at the meeting was on talks between those Taliban willing to renounce violence and the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan. The fact the gathering took place was seen as a sign that the new Pakistani government is willing to participate in a process that had been largely ignored by the former president, Pervez Musharraf.

The foreign minister of Pakistan, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, echoing a parliamentary resolution last week that encouraged dialogue with willing militants, said: “There is an increasing realization that the use of force alone cannot yield the desired results.”

Jane Perlez and Ismail Khan reported from Peshawar, Pakistan, and Pir Zubair Shah reported from Islamabad.

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The New York Times
By JANE PERLEZ , PIR ZUBAIR SHAH
and ISMAIL KHAN
October 27, 2008


PESHAWAR, Pakistan — An American drone aircraft hit a militant compound in South Waziristan Sunday night, killing 20 people, including two important local Taliban commanders known for their attacks against American soldiers in Afghanistan, a senior government official and a local resident said.

One of the dead commanders, Eida Khan, was wanted by the Americans for his cross-border attacks from bases in Waziristan, the government official said. Another, Wahweed Ullah, worked with Arabs who were part of Al Qaeda, the local resident said.

Mr. Ullah, in his late 20s, was known as an ideologically committed fighter who specialized in attacks against Americans in Afghanistan, the resident said.

The drone launched a missile attack on a compound in the village of Manduta, close to Wana, the capital of South Waziristan, about 20 miles from the Afghanistan border.

Mr. Khan and Mr. Ullah, as well as two brothers of Mr. Khan, were affiliated with the militant network of Jalaluddin Haqqani, a senior Taliban figure with close connections to Al Qaeda, said the official and the local resident, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

The strike was part of an escalating campaign by the Bush administration to hit the Taliban and their Al Qaeda backers at their bases in the tribal belt.

The latest strike appears to have been the 19th by pilotless Predator aircraft in the tribal areas since the beginning of August. In the first seven months of 2008, there were five strikes.

The Bush administration has intensified the drone attacks after backing away from using American commandos for ground raids into the tribal belt. A ground assault on September 3 produced an angry public riposte from the chief of the Pakistani Army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, who said he would defend Pakistan’s borders “at all costs” against such intrusions, an unusually strong statement from one ally to another.

Mr. Ullah, who is usually in North Waziristan, was believed to have been visiting the compound in Manduta to pay respects to the families of those killed in an American drone strike on Friday on a madrassa in North Waziristan run by Mr. Haqqani.

The people killed in the North Waziristan strike came from the area around Manduta in South Waziristan, the government official and local resident said.

Mr. Khan was well known to the Pakistani authorities. He was arrested in 2004 and jailed until last year when he was released under a prisoner exchange, the government official said.

While the drone attacks appear to be more acceptable to the Pakistani authorities than ground incursions, government officials have complained about the intensity of the strikes and the choice of targets by the Americans.

The Americans were concentrating on Taliban and Al Qaeda forces that hurt American and coalition troops in Afghanistan but were ignoring militants targeting Pakistan, a senior Pakistani official in the administration that oversees the tribal region said Monday.

“The Americans are not interested in our bad guys,” the official said. He was referring in particular to Baitullah Mehsud, a Pakistani Taliban leader, who is said by Pakistani authorities to be responsible for many of the suicide bombings of the last 18 months.

The Pakistani army is fighting the Pakistani Taliban in Bajaur, another part of the tribal region to the east of Waziristan, and that conflict appeared to be on the verge of spreading Monday after a suicide bomber rammed his car into a checkpoint manned by paramilitary forces in the Mohmand region.

The attack was the first in Mohmand, an area adjacent to Bajaur. It killed nine troops, the government said.

The Pakistani Army has said it planned to launch a campaign against the Taliban in Mohmand once it has completed its mission in Bajaur.

The conflict in the tribal region was discussed at a government-sponsored gathering of tribal leaders from Pakistan and Afghanistan in Islamabad Monday. The meeting, known as a mini-jirga, is part of a dialogue initiated last year by Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The emphasis at the meeting was on talks between those Taliban willing to renounce violence and the governments of Afghanistan and Pakistan. The fact the gathering took place was seen as a sign that the new Pakistani government is willing to participate in a process that had been largely ignored by the former president, Pervez Musharraf.

The foreign minister of Pakistan, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, echoing a parliamentary resolution last week that encouraged dialogue with willing militants, said: “There is an increasing realization that the use of force alone cannot yield the desired results.”

Jane Perlez and Ismail Khan reported from Peshawar, Pakistan, and Pir Zubair Shah reported from Islamabad.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/world/asia/28pstan.html
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Tensions in Islamabad - Washington more aggressive Al Queda

Tensions are on the rise between Islamabad and the U.S. after back-to-back missile and air strikes in Pakistan.
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this is what I don't like about the media. They always report like its only civilians that America is killing. Why not tell us which ones are TERRORIST? Its like they are saying "americans just killing innocent civilians just to be doing it". Which is bullshit!!!
 
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Reuters
By Zeeshan Haider
November 21, 2008


ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistani soldiers practiced shooting at pilotless "drone" aircraft Friday, the military said a day after the government lodged a protest with the U.S. ambassador over drone missile strikes in Pakistani territory.

Anti-aircraft guns and short-range surface-to-air missiles were used during the exercise conducted at a desert range near the city of Muzaffargarh in the central Pubjab province.

"The elements of Army Air Defense demonstrated their shooting skills by targeting the drones flying at different altitudes," the military said in a statement.

Air defense commander Lieutenant-General Ashraf Saleem praised the "precision and agility" of the gunners.

Pakistan is bristling over a series of missile strikes by U.S. drones targeting al Qaeda and Taliban militants in the lawless tribal regions along the Afghan border in recent weeks.

The U.S. forces have carried out more than 20 such drone attacks in the last three months, reflecting U.S. impatience over militants from Pakistan fuelling the Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan and fears that al Qaeda fighters in northwest Pakistan could plan attacks in the West.

A U.S. commando raid on September 3 led to a diplomatic storm, and there has not been any subsequent incursion by ground troops.

But the controversy over the drones flared again after the latest missile strike Wednesday hit a target in Bannu district in North West Frontier Province, deeper inside Pakistani territory and south of the semi-autonomous Waziristan tribal region that has borne the brunt of the attacks.

Protesting the strike in Bannu during a session of the National Assembly, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani voiced hope that the incoming U.S. administration of President-elect Barack Obama would exercise more restraint.

Pakistan says the attacks violate its sovereignty, undermine efforts to win public support for the fight against militancy, and make it harder to justify the U.S. alliance.

(Reporting by Zeeshan Haider; Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore and Paul Tait)

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this is what I don't like about the media. They always report like its only civilians that America is killing. Why not tell us which ones are TERRORIST? Its like they are saying "americans just killing innocent civilians just to be doing it". Which is bullshit!!!


BBC said:
There have been nearly 20 missile strikes in the past three months and, while US officials say al-Qaeda leaders are being successfully targeted, local tribesmen say scores of civilians have been killed.

AAA,

Is the media reporting civilian deaths from its observations - or - is the media merely reporting what others, i.e., "local tribesmen" are saying ??? Looks like to me most of the civilian casualty reports come from those on the Pakistani side (admittedly, many of whom have a vested interest in overstating or exaggerating civilian casualties).

Are you saying the media shouldn't report what the Pakistani's are saying ???

Is the problem "Poor Media Reporting" or "Poor Reader Comprehension" ???


QueEx
 
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USAF photo - MQ-1L Predator
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By VOA News
22 December 2008


Pakistani intelligence officials say at least eight people have been killed in a suspected U.S. missile strike in northwest Pakistan.

Officials say the attack occurred Monday in the South Waziristan tribal region near the border with Afghanistan. Two vehicles were destroyed in the attacks, killing all eight people.

The region is considered a stronghold of Taliban and al-Qaida militants. There have been a series of missile strikes targeting alleged militants in northwest Pakistan in recent months.

The strikes are widely believed to be from U.S. drones - unmanned, remote-controlled aircraft. Washington has refused to confirm or deny responsibility.

Media reports say the United States has carried out about 30 air strikes in Pakistan this year.

The Pakistani government has publicly condemned the air strikes, saying they undermine Pakistan's counter-terrorism efforts.

Some information for this report was provided by AFP, AP and Reuters.


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By Joby Warrick
Thurs., Jan. 8, 2009


A New Year's CIA strike in northern Pakistan killed two top al-Qaeda terrorists long sought by the United States, including the man believed to be behind September's deadly suicide bombing at a Marriott hotel in the Pakistani capital, U.S. counterterrorism officials told The Washington Post Thursday.

Agency officials determined in recent days that among the dead in the Jan. 1 missile strike were a Kenyan national who used the name Usama al-Kini and who was described as al-Qaeda's chief of operations in Pakistan and his lieutenant, identified as Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan, the sources said. Both men were associated with a string of suicide attacks in Pakistan in recent months and were also on the FBI's most-wanted list for ties to the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in East Africa.

Kini, who had been pursued by U.S. law enforcement agencies on two continents for a decade, was the eighth senior al-Qaeda leader killed in clandestine CIA strikes since July, the officials said.


New acts of terror'

The CIA declined comment on the reported strike, citing the extreme secrecy of its operations on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border where al-Qaeda is believed to be based. However, a U.S. counterterrorism official confirmed that the two died in a CIA strike on a building that was being used for explosives training.

"They died preparing new acts of terror," said the official, who insisted on anonymity because the agency's actions are secret.

Details of the attack were sketchy, but counter-terrorism officials privy to classified reports said the pair was killed by a 500-pound hellfire missiles fired by a pilotless drone aircraft operated by the CIA. The strike took place near Karikot in South Waziristan, a province in the rugged autonomous tribal region of northern Pakistan that has long been a haven for al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters.

The province has been frequently targeted by Predator drones in recent months as part of a controversial and increasingly lethal campaign to destabilize the terrorist group and kill key operatives. The attacks, occurring at a rate of about once every three days, have drawn protests from Pakistan's government but praise from top intelligence officials who say the strategy is forcing al-Qaeda into the open. CIA Director Michael V. Hayden, alluding to the strategy in November speech, said the United States had "taken the fight to the enemy."

The counter-terrorism official who described the Jan. 1 attack said: "Clearly, al-Qaeda's safe haven in Pakistan isn't nearly as safe as it used to be."


Served as a central planner

Kini, whose given name was Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam, had trained terrorists in Africa in the 1990s and served as a central planner of the 1998 attacks on U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, U.S. officials said. He was indicted by a federal grand jury in connection with those attacks and has been on the FBI's most-wanted list ever since.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, he became al-Qaeda's emir of Afghanistan's Zabul Province, and later shifted between Afghanistan, Pakistan and East Africa, planning suicide missions, training operatives and raising money, U.S. officials said.

He became al-Qaeda's operations director for Pakistan in 2007 and was responsible for at least seven suicide attacks, the sources said. These included a failed assassination attempt on Benazir Bhutto, the late Pakistani prime minister, in October of that year, and the Sept. 16, 2008, car-bombing of Islamabad's Marriott Hotel. That attack killed 53 people.

Terrorism experts have cautioned that al-Qaeda has shown surprising resilience, quickly replacing leaders who are killed or captured. Still, there have been few occasions since 2001 when the group lost so many top operatives so quickly, the U.S. counterterrorism official noted.

"The continuous loss of senior talent has to have a pretty serious effect," he said.

Researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.

© 2009 The Washington Post Company


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Pakistani leaders are critical of the
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BBC NEWS
March 25, 2009


Missiles fired by a US drone have killed seven militants in north-west Pakistan, close to the Afghan border, local officials and witnesses say.

They say that the unmanned aircraft fired missiles at two vehicles in the Makin area of South Waziristan.

The missile destroyed both vehicles, the Pakistani sources said.

While officials would not confirm the nationalities of the dead, local residents said most of them were militants of Arab and Uzbek origin.

Makin is located in the north-eastern part of South Waziristan, near its border with North Waziristan.

It is inhabited by the Mahsud tribe and dominated by local warlord Baitullah Mahsud, accused of plotting the 2007 assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.


'Priority'

"A predator strike was carried out in Makin area, 12km [eight miles] north-west of Ladha," a security official told the AFP news agency.

Correspondents say that more than 35 similar strikes have killed more than 340 people since August 2008, shortly before the election of President Asif Ali Zardari.

The US military routinely does not confirm drone attacks but the armed forces and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operating in Afghanistan are believed to be the only forces capable of deploying drones in the region.

Wednesday's attack was the seventh missile strike believed to have been carried out by US drones since President Barack Obama came to power.

He has pledged to make the war against the Taleban and al-Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan a foreign policy priority.

Pakistan is critical of the drone tactic because, it says, civilians are often killed, fuelling support for militants.

Most missile strikes by drones have targeted foreign fighters in the Waziristan region over the past couple of years.

The BBC's Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says the strikes are now also targeting facilities run by local or Afghan Taleban in the lower Kurram region, from where attacks have been launched into the Khost and Paktia provinces of Afghanistan.

The southern parts of the lower Kurram region share borders with Afghanistan's Khost province, where US and coalition forces have major deployments of forces.


Protests

Thousands of people have fled the violence in Pakistan's north-west in recent months, many of them heading to the city of Peshawar.

On Wednesday, at least one person was killed and several injured during a demonstration at the Jalozai camp near the city by people displaced by the fighting, officials said.

The protesters - from Bajaur, one of the districts worst-affected by clashes between Pakistani troops and militants - had been demanding compensation for their losses.

It is thought more than 5,000 houses have been destroyed in the fighting.

Police say they fired tear gas and shots in the air as stone-throwing protesters blocked the main road connecting Peshawar with the rest of the country. Protesters say police fired at the crowd.

At least eight people, including two policemen, were also hurt in the clashes, witnesses said.


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Dozens of suspected drone strikes
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Another 'Deadly air strike' in Pakistan, the second drone attack in four days, has killed 13 people. Local officials in North Waziristan, near the Afghan border, said the dead included women and children as well as militants - some of them foreigners. But a Taleban spokesman denied this, saying all those killed were civilians.

More than 35 suspected drone strikes have killed more than 340 people since August 2008, shortly before the election of President Asif Ali Zardari.

Most missile strikes by drones have targeted foreign fighters in the Waziristan region over the past couple of years. The drone attacks are said to be part of a new US strategy to eliminate the Taleban and al-Qaeda leadership who are reportedly operating from Pakistan's tribal region next to the border with Afghanistan, says the BBC's Shoaib Hasan in Islamabad.

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Reuters
August 27 2009


WANA, Pakistan, Aug 27 (Reuters) - Two missiles believed to have been fired by a U.S. drone aircraft struck a militant hideout killing six fighters in Pakistan's South Waziristan tribal region on Thursday, intelligence officials said.

Pakistani Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud was killed in a similar attack in the same region on Aug. 5.

The missiles struck a fortress-like house used as a hideout near Kaniguram area, some 50 km (30 miles) from South Waziristan's main town of Wana.

"I saw drones flying over the area and then there were two huge explosions," resident Mohammad Omar told Reuters by telephone.

Thursday's missile strike was the fourth launched by pilotless U.S. drones this month.

The Taliban had been in denial for weeks about Mehsud's death, but on Monday two of his aides, Hakimullah Mehsud and Wali-ur-Rehman, confirmed their leader had been killed.

Hakimullah, who led militants in Orakzai, Khyber and Kurram tribal regions, has been picked as the new overall commander of the Pakistani Taliban.

Mehsud was blamed for a wave of suicide attacks across Pakistan since late 2007, including the one that killed former prime minister Benazir Bhutto in December of that year.

Analysts and intelligence officials expect some friction to develop within the Taliban's leadership as more senior commanders could resent the younger Hakimullah.

(Reporting by Hafiz Wazir; Writing by Zeeshan Haider; Editing by Simon Cameron-Moore and Jerry Norton)
 
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