I dont know but Netflix did a good job with Sweet Tooth
personally speaking one big difference even with similar subject matter was that Sweet Tooth had likeable characters and the show wasnt so dark/moody
really disappointed Y failed
TV: Y the Last Man, no longer going to series @FX UPDATE: CANCELLED ALREADY!
- Thread starter playahaitian
- Start date
I dont know but Netflix did a good job with Sweet Tooth
personally speaking one big difference even with similar subject matter was that Sweet Tooth had likeable characters and the show wasnt so dark/moody
really disappointed Y failed
Agree 100%
I am still going to commit and watch this though...
But I think this is yet another example
Adapting these classics ain't exactly EASY
as some in Hollywood apparently think.
Especially classic unique creative source material like this
But to be fair
In the right hands ? I thought this would be a damn lay up
Last edited:
its been development from movie to tv show more than a decade
for whatever reason this was a tough to adapt...but I thought Sweet Tooth would be much tougher and that show was a success imo
I want to punch Yorick multiple times every episode! He's too old to be acting like that! The actor is doing a great job!
The show would have worked if Yorick was a teenager, I would give him more leeway.
looks like I was wrong. Based on this article the show was really hit hard by COVID costs & scheduling
www.darkhorizons.com
After fourteen years of attempts to adapt Brian K. Vaughan’s acclaimed “Y: The Last Man” comic for the screen, things finally came to fruition this year with the TV show launching a month ago and running… for all of a few weeks.
FX on Hulu abruptly canceled the post-apocalyptic drama on Sunday after having aired only seven of its planned ten episodes so far. To say the cancellation was a surprise is an understatement, and it turns out the reasoning isn’t merely a case of poor viewership.
A new feature piece in THR has gone into the show’s abrupt demise, saying a combination of costs and COVID are what essentially brought it down.
The series had it rough from the beginning. FX scored the rights in 2015, picked up the pilot in 2018 and cast Barry Keoghan and Diane Lane in leading roles with a series order in early 2019.
Then came the disruptions. The original showrunners Michael Green and Aida Croal exited citing creative differences. Then current showrunner Eliza Clark came onboard in mid-2019 to get things moving again.
Unfortunately more delays ensued as Keoghan, who was to play Yorick, was recast with Ben Schnetzer taking over the role. Within a few days, the COVID-19 pandemic then delayed everything and the show was moved from a planned FX launch to the FX on Hulu hub.
So, filming didn’t ultimately begin until October 2020, meaning some of the original cast like Lashana Lynch and Imogen Poots exited. So, because of all the delays the network had to extend the options of the cast – a costly bill even with the episodes coming in under their allotted $8.5 million-per-episode budget.
That’s where things took a turn this month. Clark pitched a potential second season in late September by which time four episodes had aired and the show’s soft reviews were in.
Executives at FX had to make a decision on the future of the series by October 15th when those options on the cast expired and would require a further $3 million to extend – while also potentially leaving the cast in limbo again.
Thus came the cancellation news which the trade’s sources say was not based on viewership figures as FX had little to no data on which to evaluate the series. Their sources added that: “without COVID, the show would have been on a different clock.”
So now comes the question as to whether producers Clark and Nina Jacobson can find a new home for their series. FX Productions owns the series outright and said to be supportive of plans to shop the show. HBO Max is considered a likely target home as WarnerMedia owns the Vertigo Comics label which published the original comic.
Details On FX's "Y: The Last Man" Axing - Dark Horizons
After fourteen years of attempts to adapt Brian K. Vaughan’s acclaimed “Y: The Last Man” comic for the screen, things finally came to fruition this year with the TV show launching a month ago and running… for all of a few weeks. FX on Hulu abruptly canceled the post-apocalyptic drama on Sunday...
www.darkhorizons.com
After fourteen years of attempts to adapt Brian K. Vaughan’s acclaimed “Y: The Last Man” comic for the screen, things finally came to fruition this year with the TV show launching a month ago and running… for all of a few weeks.
FX on Hulu abruptly canceled the post-apocalyptic drama on Sunday after having aired only seven of its planned ten episodes so far. To say the cancellation was a surprise is an understatement, and it turns out the reasoning isn’t merely a case of poor viewership.
A new feature piece in THR has gone into the show’s abrupt demise, saying a combination of costs and COVID are what essentially brought it down.
The series had it rough from the beginning. FX scored the rights in 2015, picked up the pilot in 2018 and cast Barry Keoghan and Diane Lane in leading roles with a series order in early 2019.
Then came the disruptions. The original showrunners Michael Green and Aida Croal exited citing creative differences. Then current showrunner Eliza Clark came onboard in mid-2019 to get things moving again.
Unfortunately more delays ensued as Keoghan, who was to play Yorick, was recast with Ben Schnetzer taking over the role. Within a few days, the COVID-19 pandemic then delayed everything and the show was moved from a planned FX launch to the FX on Hulu hub.
So, filming didn’t ultimately begin until October 2020, meaning some of the original cast like Lashana Lynch and Imogen Poots exited. So, because of all the delays the network had to extend the options of the cast – a costly bill even with the episodes coming in under their allotted $8.5 million-per-episode budget.
That’s where things took a turn this month. Clark pitched a potential second season in late September by which time four episodes had aired and the show’s soft reviews were in.
Executives at FX had to make a decision on the future of the series by October 15th when those options on the cast expired and would require a further $3 million to extend – while also potentially leaving the cast in limbo again.
Thus came the cancellation news which the trade’s sources say was not based on viewership figures as FX had little to no data on which to evaluate the series. Their sources added that: “without COVID, the show would have been on a different clock.”
So now comes the question as to whether producers Clark and Nina Jacobson can find a new home for their series. FX Productions owns the series outright and said to be supportive of plans to shop the show. HBO Max is considered a likely target home as WarnerMedia owns the Vertigo Comics label which published the original comic.
My pet peeve with the series was how women in general were depicted.
It made no sense on how society would totally collapse the way it did.
I did not understand how they could have no power or water systems. Hydroelectric Dams and power plants are pretty much automated. The people in the control room are just there to monitor and perform diagnostic tests. Along with pushing buttons, switching systems when maintenance is due to replace worn out parts.
There are plenty of women working in the power industry who are trained for that along with being linemen and electricians.
Large majority of ware house workers are women. Especially in Amazon, Walmart, Safeway and other regional grocery chains distribution centers and warehouses.
And there are plenty of women who are licensed CDL holders to move freight and supplies around.
The POTUS had mentioned that the airline industry had completely shutdown. There are plenty of women who are licensed commercial pilots, ticket agents, ramp agents and airline executives to keep shit going.
There was the one scene with the group of women showing up at the Costco place talking about they needed food and water. No reason they should be in that situation, even if they were single and no man living in the home prio
The entire premise was that men are gone, women are incapable of taking care of themselves.
I’m surprised women’s groups had not protested against the show when it started. Probably cuz they didn’t know it was on being there was no publicity for the show.
It made no sense on how society would totally collapse the way it did.
I did not understand how they could have no power or water systems. Hydroelectric Dams and power plants are pretty much automated. The people in the control room are just there to monitor and perform diagnostic tests. Along with pushing buttons, switching systems when maintenance is due to replace worn out parts.
There are plenty of women working in the power industry who are trained for that along with being linemen and electricians.
Large majority of ware house workers are women. Especially in Amazon, Walmart, Safeway and other regional grocery chains distribution centers and warehouses.
And there are plenty of women who are licensed CDL holders to move freight and supplies around.
The POTUS had mentioned that the airline industry had completely shutdown. There are plenty of women who are licensed commercial pilots, ticket agents, ramp agents and airline executives to keep shit going.
There was the one scene with the group of women showing up at the Costco place talking about they needed food and water. No reason they should be in that situation, even if they were single and no man living in the home prio
The entire premise was that men are gone, women are incapable of taking care of themselves.
I’m surprised women’s groups had not protested against the show when it started. Probably cuz they didn’t know it was on being there was no publicity for the show.
This show and their insufferable Republican conservative women just pissed you off. They thought they would bump it up by having a woman who was directly in line to be president but she was a racist bigot.
The best thing about the show was agent 355 and those giant titties they post a couple weeks ago. The main protagonist was insufferable. He was just so fucking annoying and spoiled brat ish, I mean that's typical of a White guy who's had it his whole life.
The motherfuker was a magician, as a job. I mean for real?
I watched it because it was an interesting premise oh, you get rid of all the men in the world and you know the women are capable of running this world for word because there are so many jobs women have absolutely no training in
exactly...i loved the book and could barely get through the 1st 3 episodes
Republican conservative women are parrots. When you hear a parrot say, "fuck you mother fucker"
You know the parrot didn't think that shit up himself, just like
The 'Handmaiden of Trump': How Elise Stefanik Went From Moderate to MAGA
they are like remote controlled cars or ventriloquist dummies
I am sure they will but the show will end without a conclusion. I listened to an interview where the showrunner said she had a five season plan.
its also telling that there is more engagement in this thread about the cancelation than there was about the show.
From the episodes I've viewed she didn't have a season one plan. I hope the actor playing Yorick gets blacklisted. Whoever greenlit this savagery needs to be sat down. Jesus Christ. No wonder I had no clue this shit was on Hulu. Hulu didn't advertise this shit to me trying to do me a solid.
It's too bad.
Because this last episode featuring Roxanne's back-story was really well done.
But the show itself pegged its showrunners into a hole of sorts.
I feel they failed in trying to incorporate current themes into much of the Comic's storyline.
It's focus is just all wrong.
Which is too bad.
Because I love much of the cast.
And don't get me started on the show's portrayal of Yorick.
Yorick in the Comics was a innocent and annoying goof-ball (from what I remember anyway)
He's just too strong a Protagonist here.
Because this last episode featuring Roxanne's back-story was really well done.
But the show itself pegged its showrunners into a hole of sorts.
I feel they failed in trying to incorporate current themes into much of the Comic's storyline.
It's focus is just all wrong.
Which is too bad.
Because I love much of the cast.
And don't get me started on the show's portrayal of Yorick.
Yorick in the Comics was a innocent and annoying goof-ball (from what I remember anyway)
He's just too strong a Protagonist here.
They still need human monitoring.
Hydroelectric Dams like the Hoover Dam could keep running for months after it is abandoned but there is one problem:
Some of the internal piping needed to cool the turbines gets clogged with shellfish and crustaceans that form over time. Usually there is a crew that goes in and cleans them out occasionally. If they don't...the water is blocked and the turbines overheat and go into shutdown (Safe)mode. Same thing with nuclear plants.
Start at 1:30
Pretty much every field you named only has around 5-7% of it's workforce that are women. You can argue back and forth on why but the majority of women will never be interested in those jobs. And do you not remember Texas last winter? They were within 4 minutes of completely destroying their grid. It may have a lot of automated parts, but it isn't 100% automated. Nothing is.
This is the world, per what was originally written in the comic.
---
This 'gendercide' instantaneously exterminated 48% of the global population, or approximately 29 billion men. 495 of the Fortune 500 CEOs are now dead, as are 99% of the world's landowners.
In the United States alone, more than 95% of all commercial pilots, truck drivers and ship captains died... as did 92% of violent felons.
Internationally, 99% of all mechanics, electricians, and construction workers are now deceased. though 51% of the planet's agricultural labor force is still alive.
14 nations, including Spain and Germany, have women soldiers who have served in ground combat units. None of the United States' nearly 200,000 female troops have ever participated in ground combat. Australia, Norway and Sweeden are the only countries that have women server on board submarines.
---
It doesn't matter if some know how to do it, having 95% of the people who used to do it being effectively gone. It's not going to be business as usual. They didn't say it would be like those "life after people" shows where power starts shutting down worldwide within a day, but no I don't think 5% of the workforce, male or female would be able to keep the lights on and the water running for everyone 6 months to a year after the event.
If all women died I am confident it would be a shit show for a couple months or years, especially in the US. We would have race wars and mad max type gangs within a week.
Yeah, I get all that.
But there shouldn’t be a complete breakdown of society if all men disappeared.
Even if only 5% of women are skilled labor that is more than enough for the others to band around them and keep things going.
Some areas of the country will have to be abandoned because of the massive loss of population like NYC and LA.
But the way the show depicted women being fully reliant on men made no sense.
Women are the primary home managers in any home with a husband, wife combo. The wife is primarily the one who shops, takes care of the kids, cooks, cleans and manages the home.
Men generally just bring home the paycheck.
If the roles were reversed and all the women disappeared, would men be completely helpless to take care of their kids, go get food and keep the home in order doing the things the wife traditionally did?
The percentage of men who are skilled labor could still keep things running and take care of home/kids.
I doubt seriously men would be wandering the streets with their kids begging for food and water the way we saw in the show.
Finale will probably end on a unresolved cliffhanger too...
Yes. I think some men would react the same way. Similar to the way that some people worldwide are now antiwork/lying flat because they are disillusioned over capitalism. On top of all the carnage they are also mourning and like today there's conspiracy theories all over the place over why. They aren't helpless because they are women. They are helpless because everything they ever knew is now in question or gone. PTSD for everybody.
They changed it from the comic. It's waaaaay darker.
Why ‘Y: The Last Man’ Was Abruptly Canceled
Six years after landing at FX for development, the drama based on the beloved comic series was axed before it could even finish its first and (possibly) only season.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Why ‘Y: The Last Man’ Was Abruptly Canceled
Six years after landing at FX for development, the drama based on the beloved comic series was axed before it could even finish its first and (possibly) only season.
BY LESLEY GOLDBERG
Plus Icon
OCTOBER 19, 2021 6:30AM
Ben Schnetzer as Yorick Brown in 'Y: The Last Man.' RAFY/FX
Logo text
- Share this article on Facebook
- Share this article on Twitter
- Share this article on Email
- Show additional share options
FX, the basic cable network overseen by CEO John Landgraf, rarely cancels its scripted content and instead tends to announce final seasons for its originals. It’s also incredibly rare for the network, which became part of the Disney fold a few years ago, to lower the ax on shows that are still running as its creator-friendly execs opt instead to wait to gather data for things like delayed viewing and digital returns. But that oddly wasn’t what transpired with Y: The Last Man, which won’t wrap its freshman season until Nov. 1.
Related Stories
TV'Y: The Last Man' Canceled at FX on Hulu
TV'TV's Top 5': Inside the Long Path to 'Y: The Last Man'
So, what happened?
Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that execs at FX had to make a decision on the future of the series by Oct. 15, which was the date that options on the cast of Y:TLM expired. FX, which landed rights to the IP in 2015, picked the drama up to pilot in April 2018 and, three months later, cast Barry Keoghan and Diane Lane in leading roles. FX ordered Y to series in February 2019.
Production, however, failed to begin right away as FX in April 2019 parted ways with original showrunners Michael Green (who was hired in late 2016) and Jessica Jones alum Aida Croal (who joined during the pilot). Croal and Green cited creative differences as the reason for their departure at the time. Green’s pitch, Vaughan raved to THR in late 2017, explored toxic masculinity. Eliza Clark (Animal Kingdom, The Killing) was tapped as showrunner in June 2019 as FX hoped to get the series back on track.
0 seconds of 30 secondsVolume 0%
This video will resume in 27 seconds
Instead, further delays followed. Word came in February 2020 that Dunkirk breakout Keoghan — who was poised to star as last man on earth Yorick — was being recast. Ben Schnetzer (Warcraft, Pride) was tapped to lead the cast by the end of that same month. Days later, the COVID-19 pandemic would create another, albeit unplanned, delay during which Y was moved from a linear launch on FX to its hub on Disney-owned Hulu as streaming took center stage across the industry.
Production on Y — including on the new pilot — would not formally begin until late October 2020, years after Lane and co-stars Amber Tamblyn and Marin Ireland originally signed on. Other original stars from Green and Croal’s pilot, including Lashana Lynch and Imogen Poots, were recast, with the series enlisting Ashley Romans, Olivia Thirlby and Elliot Fletcher.
Because of the delays amid the showrunner and cast changes, FX had to extend options on original Y stars, including Lane. And, because of the pandemic-related production shutdown, also pay to extend the options of Schnetzer and other new castmembers. Those cast extensions added up despite the fact that production came in under its $8.5 million-per-episode budget. Clark pitched a potential second season to FX execs in late September, after four of its 10 episodes had aired and well after reviews for the series were published. (Y currently has a 73 percent rating among critics and 67 percent score with viewers on Rotten Tomatoes.)
Ultimately, FX brass declined to pay $3 million to further extend options, not wanting to leave the cast in limbo yet again. The cancellation decision was, per sources, not based on viewership figures; Hulu, like other streamers, does not release traditional ratings data. That means FX had little to no data on which to evaluate the series, including how it performed in its entirety over a certain timeframe, etc. While sources note there had been a drop-off among viewers, it’s worth pointing out that mid-series declines are not uncommon now that viewer behavior has shifted to binge-watching entire seasons of a show.
“Without COVID, the show would have been on a different clock,” notes one source of the timing of the cancellation decision.
Now the question becomes if producers, including Clark and Nina Jacobson (Impeachment) — both of whom are based at FX Productions with overall deals — can successfully find a new home for their series about gender identity. FX Productions owns the series outright and, per sources, is supportive of plans to shop the show, though the studio has never focused on being a content supplier for outside networks/platforms.
Sources say HBO Max is likely the target home for a potential second season as its corporate parent, WarnerMedia, also owns DC Comics, whose imprint, Vertigo, published the Y:TLM comic series from 2002-08. WarnerMedia’s New Line previously owned the rights to Vaughan’s comic series and made two attempts at adapting it as a feature film. The first take, from David Goyer, Carl Ellsworth and director D.J. Caruso fell apart because the studio balked at the idea of adapting Y as a three-film franchise. The rights to Y reverted to Vaughan in 2014, thus killing the 2012 attempt at a movie.
Vaughan conceded in a September interview with TV’s Top 5 that his source material turned out to be “challenging subject matter” and stressed the property could only work on television.
Should a suitor for the series emerge, FX Productions would face the decision of selling library rights to season one as well as transferring ownership of the series or becoming a third-party content supplier — something that under Disney is considered a long shot given Disney’s push for vertical integration. (FX declined comment on the cancellation as well as for this story.)
Clark, meanwhile, has high hopes for the show and told TV’s Top 5 that she envisioned Y as a five-season, 50-episode series. “I have never in my life been more committed to a story, and there is so much more left to tell,” Clark wrote Sunday. “Y: The Last Man is about gender, about how oppressive systems inform identity. We had a gender diverse team of brilliant artists, led by women at almost every corner of our production. Producers, writers, directors, cinematographers, production design, costume design, stunt coordination, and more. It is the most collaborative, creatively fulfilling, and beautiful thing I have ever been a part of. We don’t want it to end.”
it was a long time since I read either book but I dont remeber Y the comic series being so dark & depressing. I think Sweet Tooth was alil darker in the comics because the kids were being hunted & killed. Yorick in the books was a likeable fuck-up
I listen to her weekly show. She co-hosts the TV's Top 5 podcast with Dan Fienberg for the Hollywood Reporter -
TV's Top 5 | Podcast on Podbay
Listen to 110 episodes of TV's Top 5 on Podbay - the best podcast player on the web. Welcome to TV's Top 5! Each episode features The Hollywood Reporter's West Coast TV Editor Lesley Goldberg and Chief TV...
podbay.fm
I'm Having an Episode
Each week, The Hollywood Reporter’s Mikey O’Connell attempts to stay on top of the latest in TV and entertainment (and stay sane) with a little help from his colleagues, friends and a revolving door of actors, comics, writers, showrunners and filmmakers.
They need to let people who worry about the source material and quality stories run shit, not people who have other agendas. 
Show will turn up on Netflix for sure. That's where this adaptation should have went.
Show will turn up on Netflix for sure. That's where this adaptation should have went.
Agreed.
It's all about ratings / ad dollars. Especially for the major networks who are often quick to can series a few episodes in. We don't see it as much with the specialty networks like FX, Hulu, AMC, Showtime, HBO, etc. They are known for letting their shows build their audiences over time. But we're seeing them do it too now like the majors (ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox).
It's a shame really ... because lots of shows end up growing up in viewership & even more so when Netflix acquires them. Lots of people catching up / caught up on Breaking Bad that way. Hell, the series YOU started out on Lifetime before Netflix got it to more eyes for seasons 2 & 3. The fanbase had been established. Networks and platforms need to be more patient with the word of mouth. Let people buzz about it to their friends or via social media. Hell, the discussion threads here at BGOL often inform us what movies & tv series are worth investing time into. Even if we don't get around to a show for months or years ... we've already marked it down as something to watch in the future.
Breaking Bad - Wikipedia
You (TV series) - Wikipedia
The 'Power Play" between Jennifer and Regina was the BEST aspect of this show.
That Washington shit was tensely directed and on point.
All the actresses involved were brilliant in those sequences.
It's got to the point that I care about Yorick, Agent 355, and Allison and others outside the Washington sphere less and less.
Though Roxanne's story was interesting.
Missi Pyle plays that role perfectly.
But even her character has become cliched.
That Washington shit was tensely directed and on point.
All the actresses involved were brilliant in those sequences.
It's got to the point that I care about Yorick, Agent 355, and Allison and others outside the Washington sphere less and less.
Though Roxanne's story was interesting.
Missi Pyle plays that role perfectly.
But even her character has become cliched.
FX Cancels Y: The Last Man
By Bethy Squires
Photo: FX
Update January 16: Showrunner Eliza Clark has officially given up on rehoming Y: The Last Man. She tweeted that the search for a new home for the show after FX pulled the plug is at an end. “It is always incredibly difficult to move a show, and in recent years, it has only gotten harder,” she wrote in a thread. “I got to adapt my favorite comic. I got to have a show on TV. I met some of my favorite artists and people in this world. It has all been a net positive.”
Original story follows.
Alas, poor Yorick! FX announced that Y: The Last Man will not be getting a season two on FX on Hulu. Variety noted that the cancellation is taking place weeks before the first (and now last?) season releases its final episode. Y: The Last Man was in development for eons, before prestige TV even existed. Shia LaBeouf had been tapped to star in the movie adaptation of Brian K. Vaughan and Pia Guerra’s comic-book series. The monkey from Friends was set to co-star.
The show finally came out after 15 years of development hell, with Ben Schnetzer starring as Yorick. Vulture noted the work that went into adapting a book that had aged into a gender-essentialist mess into “a thoughtful, gender-expansive revamp in which people still feel and function in the absence of Y chromosomes,” and praised showrunner Eliza Clark for the effort.
Clark announced Y: The Last Man’s cancellation on her Twitter, praising the show’s “gender diverse team of artists,” and giving hope that the story will continue on another platform. “[W]e know that someone else is going to be very lucky to have this team and this story,” she said. “I have never experienced the remarkable solidarity of this many talented people. We are committed to finding Y its next home.”
just done with show should have focused on the agent and the scientist.
i see it got canceled because of covid not low viewing.
makes sense since I thought it was a decent show.. one of my favorite shows last year.
Similar threads
