TV: HBO executive takes the blame for True Detective 2nd season failure UPDATE! 4rd Season w/ Jodie Foster!
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True Detective and Fargo next year.
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I hate that they always take a short cut to upping the ante by putting children in danger. Shit is fucked up to me.
I hate that they always take a short cut to upping the ante by putting children in danger. Shit is fucked up to me.
Mahershala Ali’s True Detective Character Was Originally Written As White
By Hunter Harris@hunteryharris
The truest detective. Photo: Presley Ann/Getty Images for MVD Inc.
Offers for Green Bookand True Detectivearrived within days of each other, Mahershala Ali told John David Washington for Variety’s Actors on Actors series. But Ali, fresh off an Oscar win, had to convince True Detective showrunner Nic Pizzolatto that the show’s lead cop could be black. “True Detective was written different. The lead was white, and the other cop was black. And once you see the show, you’ll see that is different from the other seasons, in that the lead character, he’s at the point of the arrowhead,” Ali said. “I could have played that second lead, the supporting character. But in my mind I was like, ‘I’ve done this my entire career. I’ve never done that.’”
To convince Pizzolatto that the show’s lead could believably be a black detective, Ali used photos of his own grandfather, a state police officer. “I went on my phone; I’m hitting up some cousins and whatnot. And they send me some pictures of my grandfather in the state police officer uniform. So I texted them to [Pizzolatto]. And I was like, ‘See, we existed in this space in the ’60s, in the ’70s, [as] state police officers. This is in Arkansas.’”
In True Detective’s Ozarks-set season three, Ali plays detective Wayne Hays, who’s investigating a crime involving two missing children. Ali said he told Pizzolatto that “we don’t have to beat them over the head with the race element,” but that he encouraged him to think about how showing racism could serve the show. “I came back to [Nic] and I was like, ‘I want to play that part.’ And he thought about it a couple of days, got back to me, and he was like, ‘Yo, let’s do this. I’m down.’”
By Hunter Harris@hunteryharris
The truest detective. Photo: Presley Ann/Getty Images for MVD Inc.
Offers for Green Bookand True Detectivearrived within days of each other, Mahershala Ali told John David Washington for Variety’s Actors on Actors series. But Ali, fresh off an Oscar win, had to convince True Detective showrunner Nic Pizzolatto that the show’s lead cop could be black. “True Detective was written different. The lead was white, and the other cop was black. And once you see the show, you’ll see that is different from the other seasons, in that the lead character, he’s at the point of the arrowhead,” Ali said. “I could have played that second lead, the supporting character. But in my mind I was like, ‘I’ve done this my entire career. I’ve never done that.’”
To convince Pizzolatto that the show’s lead could believably be a black detective, Ali used photos of his own grandfather, a state police officer. “I went on my phone; I’m hitting up some cousins and whatnot. And they send me some pictures of my grandfather in the state police officer uniform. So I texted them to [Pizzolatto]. And I was like, ‘See, we existed in this space in the ’60s, in the ’70s, [as] state police officers. This is in Arkansas.’”
In True Detective’s Ozarks-set season three, Ali plays detective Wayne Hays, who’s investigating a crime involving two missing children. Ali said he told Pizzolatto that “we don’t have to beat them over the head with the race element,” but that he encouraged him to think about how showing racism could serve the show. “I came back to [Nic] and I was like, ‘I want to play that part.’ And he thought about it a couple of days, got back to me, and he was like, ‘Yo, let’s do this. I’m down.’”
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True Detective starts next weekend, BGOL fam'.
True Detective starts next weekend, BGOL fam'.
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True Detective Season 3 Is In The Same World As Season 1
True Detective returns with season 3 after spending the last few years off the air, and the first few episodes have already revealed the story's (brief) connection to season 1. True Detective season 3 sees a story unfold in three time periods; in 1980, two children go missing in Arkansas, and it’s up to Mahershala Ali’s state detective Wayne Hays to investigate. In the 1990, shocking new evidence is brought to light that changes everything. Finally, in 2015, a much older Hays is being interviewed for a true crime series about the case.
The latter timeline takes place three years after the "modern" events of True Detective season 1. It's in this time period that the dots between the two seasons are somewhat connected - or, at least, are implied to exist in the same universe. A key part of True Detective’s new mystery is some creepy straw dolls left at the crime scene. Elisa Montgomery (Sarah Gadon), the woman fronting the documentary, explains to Hays how the case has caught attention online. She adds: "It's been theorized that the straw dolls are a sign of pedophile groups, like the crooked spiral."
Related: What's The Theme Music For True Detective Season 3?
It’s a fleeting moment, but one that's likely to make ears prick up. True Detective may have debuted five years ago, but its story and imagery are memorable. Chief among them are the pedophile ring, and the spiral patterns that kept on cropping up across the season. A big part of True Detectiveseason 1’s success was how it drove viewers to speculate online. The spirals were a major factor within those fan theories. It’s unlikely that mention of the spirals will lead to a more tangible connection. While Matthew McConaughey has previously said he’d be up for a return, season 3 is very much doing its own thing. This reference confirms the new season is set in the same universe as True Detective season 1, which itself is interesting and a neat touch from Nic Pizzolatto, but it won’t be much more than that.
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The story of McConaughey's Rust Cohle and Woody Harrelson's Marty Hart is done, but it’s intriguing to see the impact that story made in-universe. Three years on, and in a different state, the crimes are still remembered. Indeed, based on the meta framing device of the documentary, it could even be that the story of the Yellow King has been the subject of its own documentary, which itself could be referenced later on in True Detective season 3.
This fits with how many anthology series have connected their universes. Black Mirror, for example, tells standalone stories, but numerous Easter eggs have suggested Black Mirror shared universe exists in some form. More similarly, Fargo (which first aired the same year as True Detective), tells stories that serve as different chapters from the same book. True Detective’sapproach here is reminiscent of that. Given the success of True Detective season 1, and the need to win back the fans, it makes sense to connect back here. It’s also a clever way of ensuring viewers will be theorizing about the straw dolls, without being overtly baiting theories. It won’t change the story, but should please fans as it loops back around to season 1. Time really is a flat circle after all.
- BY LUKE HUTCHINSON
- – ON JAN 15, 2019
- IN SR ORIGINALS
True Detective returns with season 3 after spending the last few years off the air, and the first few episodes have already revealed the story's (brief) connection to season 1. True Detective season 3 sees a story unfold in three time periods; in 1980, two children go missing in Arkansas, and it’s up to Mahershala Ali’s state detective Wayne Hays to investigate. In the 1990, shocking new evidence is brought to light that changes everything. Finally, in 2015, a much older Hays is being interviewed for a true crime series about the case.
The latter timeline takes place three years after the "modern" events of True Detective season 1. It's in this time period that the dots between the two seasons are somewhat connected - or, at least, are implied to exist in the same universe. A key part of True Detective’s new mystery is some creepy straw dolls left at the crime scene. Elisa Montgomery (Sarah Gadon), the woman fronting the documentary, explains to Hays how the case has caught attention online. She adds: "It's been theorized that the straw dolls are a sign of pedophile groups, like the crooked spiral."
Related: What's The Theme Music For True Detective Season 3?
It’s a fleeting moment, but one that's likely to make ears prick up. True Detective may have debuted five years ago, but its story and imagery are memorable. Chief among them are the pedophile ring, and the spiral patterns that kept on cropping up across the season. A big part of True Detectiveseason 1’s success was how it drove viewers to speculate online. The spirals were a major factor within those fan theories. It’s unlikely that mention of the spirals will lead to a more tangible connection. While Matthew McConaughey has previously said he’d be up for a return, season 3 is very much doing its own thing. This reference confirms the new season is set in the same universe as True Detective season 1, which itself is interesting and a neat touch from Nic Pizzolatto, but it won’t be much more than that.
ADVERTISING
The story of McConaughey's Rust Cohle and Woody Harrelson's Marty Hart is done, but it’s intriguing to see the impact that story made in-universe. Three years on, and in a different state, the crimes are still remembered. Indeed, based on the meta framing device of the documentary, it could even be that the story of the Yellow King has been the subject of its own documentary, which itself could be referenced later on in True Detective season 3.
This fits with how many anthology series have connected their universes. Black Mirror, for example, tells standalone stories, but numerous Easter eggs have suggested Black Mirror shared universe exists in some form. More similarly, Fargo (which first aired the same year as True Detective), tells stories that serve as different chapters from the same book. True Detective’sapproach here is reminiscent of that. Given the success of True Detective season 1, and the need to win back the fans, it makes sense to connect back here. It’s also a clever way of ensuring viewers will be theorizing about the straw dolls, without being overtly baiting theories. It won’t change the story, but should please fans as it loops back around to season 1. Time really is a flat circle after all.
First episode was sorta slow.
It was, but I was locked in. With this show its about looking for subtle clues, like the scene at the community center.
First two episodes were solid.
Felt like the first season again so I know it's off to a good start.
I like the position the Hays is in, aged detective with memory loss.
Ali is doing a great job as usual, I'm surprised at Dorff, I almost forgot it was him. Good acting on both their part.
Story so far in these two episodes has a nice pace and good build up. If your not into mystery/whodunnit/crime thrillers then this show isn't for you.
A lot of flashbacks so far so good but I presume as the show carry's forward this could get tiresome but I understand it as it's own plot device looking at Hays character in 3 different timeline and how he deals with memory loss. This could get real interesting.
Im already hype for the next episode I will be watching faithfully. Hopefully this season ends even better than it began.
Felt like the first season again so I know it's off to a good start.
I like the position the Hays is in, aged detective with memory loss.
Ali is doing a great job as usual, I'm surprised at Dorff, I almost forgot it was him. Good acting on both their part.
Story so far in these two episodes has a nice pace and good build up. If your not into mystery/whodunnit/crime thrillers then this show isn't for you.
A lot of flashbacks so far so good but I presume as the show carry's forward this could get tiresome but I understand it as it's own plot device looking at Hays character in 3 different timeline and how he deals with memory loss. This could get real interesting.
Im already hype for the next episode I will be watching faithfully. Hopefully this season ends even better than it began.
'True Detective' Season 4 to star Kali Reis and Jodie Foster | CNN
"True Detective: Night Country" will star Kali Reis with the previously announced casting of Jodie Foster. It will be HBO's fourth season of the series.
True Detective Season 4: Everything We Know So Far - SlashFilm
Issa López is taking over the HBO series, and that's only good news.
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‘True Detective’ Season 4 at HBO Casts Kali Reis in Lead Role Opposite Jodie Foster
"True Detective" Season 4 has officially been ordered at HBO, with Kali Reis now set to star opposite previously announced lead Jodie Foster
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Actually liked the 2nd season and not the 3rd.
Thanks for the update ^
‘True Detective: Night Country’ Trailer: Jodie Foster Solves Bone-Chilling Alaskan Mystery
Grab your warmest parka because “True Detective” is heading to Alaska for its chilliest mystery yet. Warner Bros. Discovery released the first trailer for “True Detective: Night C…
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True Detective: Night Country: Jodie Foster Hunts a Serial Killer in Alaska in First Trailer - IGN
Warner Bros. Discovery released the first trailer for True Detective: Night Country on Wednesday at the unveiling event for Max, the new streaming service that combines the content from HBO Max and Discovery Plus.
The new True Detective season sure seems like it’s connected to the first
Fan theorists, start your engines
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Jodie Foster and Kali Reis Star in the Female-Led 'True Detective' Season 4
Watch the trailer for the Barry Jenkins-produced, Issa Lopez-directed ‘True Detective: Night Country’ which will be an arctic murder-mystery set in small-town Alaska.
‘True Detective: Night Country’ Gets Premiere Date & Trailer As HBO Chief Explains Delay Of Latest Iteration Starring Jodie Foster, Kali Reis
HBO has set January 14 as premiere date for True Detective: Night County, starring Jodie Foster and Kali Reis. The network also has released a new trailer for the six-episode series, which will be …
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‘True Detective: Night Country’ Sets HBO Premiere Date
HBO has set the premiere date for the Season 4 of "True Detective."
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