TV Discussion: LOST and that ending UPDATE: 2021 They REALLY need to just admit they messed up!
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Re: For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...
You could tell they were making shit up on the fly when they spent a significant chunk of the first season hinting that Walt was going to be a key character then pretty much let him disappear in the second season like Jamie Foxworth's character on Family Matters when she went up stairs to her bedroom and was never heard from again.
You could tell they were making shit up on the fly when they spent a significant chunk of the first season hinting that Walt was going to be a key character then pretty much let him disappear in the second season like Jamie Foxworth's character on Family Matters when she went up stairs to her bedroom and was never heard from again.
Re: For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...
Of course a document from the very beginning is going to be pretty vague about the entire series. Those things are basically what they plan to accomplish in a season, if it only gets one. It's not like they knew it was going to go on for six or whatever years it did, and everyone knows the first couple of years they were doing whatever to drag it out.
Of course a document from the very beginning is going to be pretty vague about the entire series. Those things are basically what they plan to accomplish in a season, if it only gets one. It's not like they knew it was going to go on for six or whatever years it did, and everyone knows the first couple of years they were doing whatever to drag it out.
Re: For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...
* boom
true...
however the BLATANTLY LIED when asked about the ending and the process during the series run.
* boom
true...
however the BLATANTLY LIED when asked about the ending and the process during the series run.
Re: For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...
I can't think of a series that i've watched that had a worse ending than lost.
I can't think of a series that i've watched that had a worse ending than lost.
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
'Lost' Showrunners on Killing Off Characters, the Polarizing Finale and More Unanswered Questions
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse reunited with several of their former stars at PaleyFest, where they also weighed in on the universally despised Nikki and Paolo and just who was on that mysterious outrigger in the middle of the ocean.
Four years after the Lost finale aired, showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are still fielding questions about it.
The duo reunited with several of their former castmembers on Sunday night on Day 4 of PaleyFest at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, where they introduced that night's screening (the audience watched season one's penultimate episode, titled "Exodus (Part 1)," before the panel discussion). Joked Lindelof of the polarizing series finale: "We debated whether to not to show you the real finale." To which Cuse quickly responded: "Too soon."
PHOTOS: The Faces of Pilot Season 2014
As for the theory that the characters were dead during the entire course of the series, which ran from 2004-10 on ABC, Cuse later quashed any lingering doubts: "No, they were not dead the entire time."
He explained that the theory was fueled by the final moments of the series, in which shots of the plane wreckage were shown before going into commercial break. Cuse, who now serves as co-showrunner on A&E's Bates Motel and also has The Strain coming up on FX -- said those shots were inserted on the advice of former ABC Studios head Barry Jossen, who suggested that there be a "buffer" between the final scene and the commercial break.
"[Viewers] saw the shots of the plane with no people there, and that exacerbated the problem," he said.
He later added that the decision to have the final scene of the series portray the afterlife was made early on during the show's run, and that he and Lindelof had lengthy conversations about it.
"Lost was a show about people on an island in the middle of nowhere, but metaphorically they were lost in their lives [and in need of] purpose and redemption," Cuse said. "[The ending] had to be a spiritual one."
The castmembers said they heard many creative theories over the years from viewers about what was really going on. Jorge Garcia, who played Hurley and just landed a regular role opposite his Lost co-star Daniel Dae Kim on CBS' Hawaii Five-0, revealed one of his favorites: "A guy once said that when the plane was in the air, we were all cloned. So the story of Lost was really the story of our clones."
Josh Holloway, who played Sawyer and now stars on CBS' Intelligence, said he once ran his own theory by Lindelof: "I once looked at you (nods at Lindelof) and said, 'The island is like a Death Star,' and you got weird with me. … I skedaddled … and shut up. I was afraid of [my character] dying."
As Lost fans know, the main character, Jack (Matthew Fox), was originally intended to die in the pilot. Lindelof said it was a strategic plan to cast an actor who would be featured prominently in the marketing and publicity campaign but then would be killed off in a shock to viewers. But after getting notes from the network and studio executives, the writers had a change of heart.
"They said, 'The audience will really start to care about this character, and then they will never trust you again or form bonds with any of the other characters,'" revealed Lindelof, whose adaptation of Tom Perrotta's The Leftovers debuts on HBO later this year.
He also said that when Ian Somerhalder learned the fate of his character, Boone -- the first major character to die on the series -- he took it well. So well, in fact, that "we said, 'We gotta go kill more guys,' " Lindelof quipped. He added that Kim, who played Jin, was so worried about his fate on the show he asked the producers if he should hold off on buying a house in Hawaii, where the show was shot.
The castmembers on the panel revealed they knew very little about their characters while shooting the series but they were confident the writers knew where their stories were headed. Garcia said Hurley was originally supposed to be a repo man (not a lottery winner), while Yunjin Kim knew only that her character, Sun Kwon, could understand English when she was shooting the pilot. "I knew nothing," added Henry Ian Cusick, who played Desmond Hume and next co-stars on The CW's The 100.
Another burning question for fans continues to be the identity of the group of people on the outrigger in the season-five episode "The Little Prince." During the episode, Sawyer and Juliet's (Elizabeth Mitchell) group head out to sea in an outrigger canoe, during which they engage in a shootout with a group on another outrigger. Juliet apparently hits one of the people in the other boat, but a time shift occurs before they learn of that group's identity.
According to Lindelof, there was a scene written for the finale in which it was explained who was on that boat and what they were doing.
"We wrote that scene, and it was going to air in the final season, and it definitely answered who was on the outrigger," he said, adding: "But all the writers … thought it would be much cooler not to answer. … The scene exists on paper. Years from now, for some excellent charity, we'll probably auction it off."
Two characters whom seemingly nobody -- writers included -- came to care about were Nikki (Kiele Sanchez) and Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro), introduced in the third season as fellow survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. Cuse explained that an "elaborate story spanning one season, maybe more" had been discussed for the duo. By the time the season premiered, six episodes had already been shot. Not only did the viewers not like the characters, but by then, "we were hating them ourselves," Lindelof added.
The writers' decision, he said, came down to "do we pretend they never existed or [dedicate] an entire episode to their death?" (The answer, of course, was the latter, with the duo being buried alive after they were bitten by a venomous spider that caused paralysis.)
As for other unanswered questions about Lost, Cuse said to answer every single mystery would have been "didactic and boring."
"We [preferred] to tell an emotional story about what happened to the characters," he added, to applause. "I cared more about the characters' journey and what happened to them."
The panel also included former castmembers Maggie Grace (Shannon Rutherford), who returns for the third Taken film and just landed a starring role on CBS' untitled Wall Street pilot, and Malcolm David Kelley (Walt Lloyd), who is part of the musical duo MKTO, which releases its first album April 1.
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'Lost' Showrunners on Killing Off Characters, the Polarizing Finale and More Unanswered Questions
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse reunited with several of their former stars at PaleyFest, where they also weighed in on the universally despised Nikki and Paolo and just who was on that mysterious outrigger in the middle of the ocean.
Four years after the Lost finale aired, showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are still fielding questions about it.
The duo reunited with several of their former castmembers on Sunday night on Day 4 of PaleyFest at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, where they introduced that night's screening (the audience watched season one's penultimate episode, titled "Exodus (Part 1)," before the panel discussion). Joked Lindelof of the polarizing series finale: "We debated whether to not to show you the real finale." To which Cuse quickly responded: "Too soon."
PHOTOS: The Faces of Pilot Season 2014
As for the theory that the characters were dead during the entire course of the series, which ran from 2004-10 on ABC, Cuse later quashed any lingering doubts: "No, they were not dead the entire time."
He explained that the theory was fueled by the final moments of the series, in which shots of the plane wreckage were shown before going into commercial break. Cuse, who now serves as co-showrunner on A&E's Bates Motel and also has The Strain coming up on FX -- said those shots were inserted on the advice of former ABC Studios head Barry Jossen, who suggested that there be a "buffer" between the final scene and the commercial break.
"[Viewers] saw the shots of the plane with no people there, and that exacerbated the problem," he said.
He later added that the decision to have the final scene of the series portray the afterlife was made early on during the show's run, and that he and Lindelof had lengthy conversations about it.
"Lost was a show about people on an island in the middle of nowhere, but metaphorically they were lost in their lives [and in need of] purpose and redemption," Cuse said. "[The ending] had to be a spiritual one."
The castmembers said they heard many creative theories over the years from viewers about what was really going on. Jorge Garcia, who played Hurley and just landed a regular role opposite his Lost co-star Daniel Dae Kim on CBS' Hawaii Five-0, revealed one of his favorites: "A guy once said that when the plane was in the air, we were all cloned. So the story of Lost was really the story of our clones."
Josh Holloway, who played Sawyer and now stars on CBS' Intelligence, said he once ran his own theory by Lindelof: "I once looked at you (nods at Lindelof) and said, 'The island is like a Death Star,' and you got weird with me. … I skedaddled … and shut up. I was afraid of [my character] dying."
As Lost fans know, the main character, Jack (Matthew Fox), was originally intended to die in the pilot. Lindelof said it was a strategic plan to cast an actor who would be featured prominently in the marketing and publicity campaign but then would be killed off in a shock to viewers. But after getting notes from the network and studio executives, the writers had a change of heart.
"They said, 'The audience will really start to care about this character, and then they will never trust you again or form bonds with any of the other characters,'" revealed Lindelof, whose adaptation of Tom Perrotta's The Leftovers debuts on HBO later this year.
He also said that when Ian Somerhalder learned the fate of his character, Boone -- the first major character to die on the series -- he took it well. So well, in fact, that "we said, 'We gotta go kill more guys,' " Lindelof quipped. He added that Kim, who played Jin, was so worried about his fate on the show he asked the producers if he should hold off on buying a house in Hawaii, where the show was shot.
The castmembers on the panel revealed they knew very little about their characters while shooting the series but they were confident the writers knew where their stories were headed. Garcia said Hurley was originally supposed to be a repo man (not a lottery winner), while Yunjin Kim knew only that her character, Sun Kwon, could understand English when she was shooting the pilot. "I knew nothing," added Henry Ian Cusick, who played Desmond Hume and next co-stars on The CW's The 100.
Another burning question for fans continues to be the identity of the group of people on the outrigger in the season-five episode "The Little Prince." During the episode, Sawyer and Juliet's (Elizabeth Mitchell) group head out to sea in an outrigger canoe, during which they engage in a shootout with a group on another outrigger. Juliet apparently hits one of the people in the other boat, but a time shift occurs before they learn of that group's identity.
According to Lindelof, there was a scene written for the finale in which it was explained who was on that boat and what they were doing.
"We wrote that scene, and it was going to air in the final season, and it definitely answered who was on the outrigger," he said, adding: "But all the writers … thought it would be much cooler not to answer. … The scene exists on paper. Years from now, for some excellent charity, we'll probably auction it off."
Two characters whom seemingly nobody -- writers included -- came to care about were Nikki (Kiele Sanchez) and Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro), introduced in the third season as fellow survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. Cuse explained that an "elaborate story spanning one season, maybe more" had been discussed for the duo. By the time the season premiered, six episodes had already been shot. Not only did the viewers not like the characters, but by then, "we were hating them ourselves," Lindelof added.
The writers' decision, he said, came down to "do we pretend they never existed or [dedicate] an entire episode to their death?" (The answer, of course, was the latter, with the duo being buried alive after they were bitten by a venomous spider that caused paralysis.)
As for other unanswered questions about Lost, Cuse said to answer every single mystery would have been "didactic and boring."
"We [preferred] to tell an emotional story about what happened to the characters," he added, to applause. "I cared more about the characters' journey and what happened to them."
The panel also included former castmembers Maggie Grace (Shannon Rutherford), who returns for the third Taken film and just landed a starring role on CBS' untitled Wall Street pilot, and Malcolm David Kelley (Walt Lloyd), who is part of the musical duo MKTO, which releases its first album April 1.
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Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
'Lost' Showrunners on Killing Off Characters, the Polarizing Finale and More Unanswered Questions
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse reunited with several of their former stars at PaleyFest, where they also weighed in on the universally despised Nikki and Paolo and just who was on that mysterious outrigger in the middle of the ocean.
Four years after the Lost finale aired, showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are still fielding questions about it.
The duo reunited with several of their former castmembers on Sunday night on Day 4 of PaleyFest at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, where they introduced that night's screening (the audience watched season one's penultimate episode, titled "Exodus (Part 1)," before the panel discussion). Joked Lindelof of the polarizing series finale: "We debated whether to not to show you the real finale." To which Cuse quickly responded: "Too soon."
PHOTOS: The Faces of Pilot Season 2014
As for the theory that the characters were dead during the entire course of the series, which ran from 2004-10 on ABC, Cuse later quashed any lingering doubts: "No, they were not dead the entire time."
He explained that the theory was fueled by the final moments of the series, in which shots of the plane wreckage were shown before going into commercial break. Cuse, who now serves as co-showrunner on A&E's Bates Motel and also has The Strain coming up on FX -- said those shots were inserted on the advice of former ABC Studios head Barry Jossen, who suggested that there be a "buffer" between the final scene and the commercial break.
"[Viewers] saw the shots of the plane with no people there, and that exacerbated the problem," he said.
He later added that the decision to have the final scene of the series portray the afterlife was made early on during the show's run, and that he and Lindelof had lengthy conversations about it.
"Lost was a show about people on an island in the middle of nowhere, but metaphorically they were lost in their lives [and in need of] purpose and redemption," Cuse said. "[The ending] had to be a spiritual one."
The castmembers said they heard many creative theories over the years from viewers about what was really going on. Jorge Garcia, who played Hurley and just landed a regular role opposite his Lost co-star Daniel Dae Kim on CBS' Hawaii Five-0, revealed one of his favorites: "A guy once said that when the plane was in the air, we were all cloned. So the story of Lost was really the story of our clones."
Josh Holloway, who played Sawyer and now stars on CBS' Intelligence, said he once ran his own theory by Lindelof: "I once looked at you (nods at Lindelof) and said, 'The island is like a Death Star,' and you got weird with me. … I skedaddled … and shut up. I was afraid of [my character] dying."
As Lost fans know, the main character, Jack (Matthew Fox), was originally intended to die in the pilot. Lindelof said it was a strategic plan to cast an actor who would be featured prominently in the marketing and publicity campaign but then would be killed off in a shock to viewers. But after getting notes from the network and studio executives, the writers had a change of heart.
"They said, 'The audience will really start to care about this character, and then they will never trust you again or form bonds with any of the other characters,'" revealed Lindelof, whose adaptation of Tom Perrotta's The Leftovers debuts on HBO later this year.
He also said that when Ian Somerhalder learned the fate of his character, Boone -- the first major character to die on the series -- he took it well. So well, in fact, that "we said, 'We gotta go kill more guys,' " Lindelof quipped. He added that Kim, who played Jin, was so worried about his fate on the show he asked the producers if he should hold off on buying a house in Hawaii, where the show was shot.
The castmembers on the panel revealed they knew very little about their characters while shooting the series but they were confident the writers knew where their stories were headed. Garcia said Hurley was originally supposed to be a repo man (not a lottery winner), while Yunjin Kim knew only that her character, Sun Kwon, could understand English when she was shooting the pilot. "I knew nothing," added Henry Ian Cusick, who played Desmond Hume and next co-stars on The CW's The 100.
Another burning question for fans continues to be the identity of the group of people on the outrigger in the season-five episode "The Little Prince." During the episode, Sawyer and Juliet's (Elizabeth Mitchell) group head out to sea in an outrigger canoe, during which they engage in a shootout with a group on another outrigger. Juliet apparently hits one of the people in the other boat, but a time shift occurs before they learn of that group's identity.
Two characters whom seemingly nobody -- writers included -- came to care about were Nikki (Kiele Sanchez) and Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro), introduced in the third season as fellow survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. Cuse explained that an "elaborate story spanning one season, maybe more" had been discussed for the duo. By the time the season premiered, six episodes had already been shot. Not only did the viewers not like the characters, but by then, "we were hating them ourselves," Lindelof added.
The writers' decision, he said, came down to "do we pretend they never existed or [dedicate] an entire episode to their death?" (The answer, of course, was the latter, with the duo being buried alive after they were bitten by a venomous spider that caused paralysis.)
"We [preferred] to tell an emotional story about what happened to the characters," he added, to applause. "I cared more about the characters' journey and what happened to them."
The panel also included former castmembers Maggie Grace (Shannon Rutherford), who returns for the third Taken film and just landed a starring role on CBS' untitled Wall Street pilot, and Malcolm David Kelley (Walt Lloyd), who is part of the musical duo MKTO, which releases its first album April 1.
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'Lost' Showrunners on Killing Off Characters, the Polarizing Finale and More Unanswered Questions
Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse reunited with several of their former stars at PaleyFest, where they also weighed in on the universally despised Nikki and Paolo and just who was on that mysterious outrigger in the middle of the ocean.
Four years after the Lost finale aired, showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are still fielding questions about it.
The duo reunited with several of their former castmembers on Sunday night on Day 4 of PaleyFest at the Dolby Theatre in Hollywood, where they introduced that night's screening (the audience watched season one's penultimate episode, titled "Exodus (Part 1)," before the panel discussion). Joked Lindelof of the polarizing series finale: "We debated whether to not to show you the real finale." To which Cuse quickly responded: "Too soon."
PHOTOS: The Faces of Pilot Season 2014
As for the theory that the characters were dead during the entire course of the series, which ran from 2004-10 on ABC, Cuse later quashed any lingering doubts: "No, they were not dead the entire time."
He explained that the theory was fueled by the final moments of the series, in which shots of the plane wreckage were shown before going into commercial break. Cuse, who now serves as co-showrunner on A&E's Bates Motel and also has The Strain coming up on FX -- said those shots were inserted on the advice of former ABC Studios head Barry Jossen, who suggested that there be a "buffer" between the final scene and the commercial break.
"[Viewers] saw the shots of the plane with no people there, and that exacerbated the problem," he said.
He later added that the decision to have the final scene of the series portray the afterlife was made early on during the show's run, and that he and Lindelof had lengthy conversations about it.
"Lost was a show about people on an island in the middle of nowhere, but metaphorically they were lost in their lives [and in need of] purpose and redemption," Cuse said. "[The ending] had to be a spiritual one."
The castmembers said they heard many creative theories over the years from viewers about what was really going on. Jorge Garcia, who played Hurley and just landed a regular role opposite his Lost co-star Daniel Dae Kim on CBS' Hawaii Five-0, revealed one of his favorites: "A guy once said that when the plane was in the air, we were all cloned. So the story of Lost was really the story of our clones."
Josh Holloway, who played Sawyer and now stars on CBS' Intelligence, said he once ran his own theory by Lindelof: "I once looked at you (nods at Lindelof) and said, 'The island is like a Death Star,' and you got weird with me. … I skedaddled … and shut up. I was afraid of [my character] dying."
As Lost fans know, the main character, Jack (Matthew Fox), was originally intended to die in the pilot. Lindelof said it was a strategic plan to cast an actor who would be featured prominently in the marketing and publicity campaign but then would be killed off in a shock to viewers. But after getting notes from the network and studio executives, the writers had a change of heart.
"They said, 'The audience will really start to care about this character, and then they will never trust you again or form bonds with any of the other characters,'" revealed Lindelof, whose adaptation of Tom Perrotta's The Leftovers debuts on HBO later this year.
He also said that when Ian Somerhalder learned the fate of his character, Boone -- the first major character to die on the series -- he took it well. So well, in fact, that "we said, 'We gotta go kill more guys,' " Lindelof quipped. He added that Kim, who played Jin, was so worried about his fate on the show he asked the producers if he should hold off on buying a house in Hawaii, where the show was shot.
The castmembers on the panel revealed they knew very little about their characters while shooting the series but they were confident the writers knew where their stories were headed. Garcia said Hurley was originally supposed to be a repo man (not a lottery winner), while Yunjin Kim knew only that her character, Sun Kwon, could understand English when she was shooting the pilot. "I knew nothing," added Henry Ian Cusick, who played Desmond Hume and next co-stars on The CW's The 100.
Another burning question for fans continues to be the identity of the group of people on the outrigger in the season-five episode "The Little Prince." During the episode, Sawyer and Juliet's (Elizabeth Mitchell) group head out to sea in an outrigger canoe, during which they engage in a shootout with a group on another outrigger. Juliet apparently hits one of the people in the other boat, but a time shift occurs before they learn of that group's identity.
According to Lindelof, there was a scene written for the finale in which it was explained who was on that boat and what they were doing.
"We wrote that scene, and it was going to air in the final season, and it definitely answered who was on the outrigger," he said, adding: "But all the writers … thought it would be much cooler not to answer. … The scene exists on paper. Years from now, for some excellent charity, we'll probably auction it off."
"We wrote that scene, and it was going to air in the final season, and it definitely answered who was on the outrigger," he said, adding: "But all the writers … thought it would be much cooler not to answer. … The scene exists on paper. Years from now, for some excellent charity, we'll probably auction it off."
Two characters whom seemingly nobody -- writers included -- came to care about were Nikki (Kiele Sanchez) and Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro), introduced in the third season as fellow survivors of Oceanic Flight 815. Cuse explained that an "elaborate story spanning one season, maybe more" had been discussed for the duo. By the time the season premiered, six episodes had already been shot. Not only did the viewers not like the characters, but by then, "we were hating them ourselves," Lindelof added.
The writers' decision, he said, came down to "do we pretend they never existed or [dedicate] an entire episode to their death?" (The answer, of course, was the latter, with the duo being buried alive after they were bitten by a venomous spider that caused paralysis.)
As for other unanswered questions about Lost, Cuse said to answer every single mystery would have been "didactic and boring."
"We [preferred] to tell an emotional story about what happened to the characters," he added, to applause. "I cared more about the characters' journey and what happened to them."
The panel also included former castmembers Maggie Grace (Shannon Rutherford), who returns for the third Taken film and just landed a starring role on CBS' untitled Wall Street pilot, and Malcolm David Kelley (Walt Lloyd), who is part of the musical duo MKTO, which releases its first album April 1.
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Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
100%
It was clear as day that Tony was killed. Especially, how that final scene was being filmed.
Never understood how folks saw it any other way...
100%
It was clear as day that Tony was killed. Especially, how that final scene was being filmed.
Never understood how folks saw it any other way...
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
I would say although I didn't like either ending LOST was much more disappointing.
I would say although I didn't like either ending LOST was much more disappointing.
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
I didnt start watching the show until a few months after the show ended and I got hooked on it through Netflix... Spent the next 3 months watching it and went out of my way to not hear what the ending was. I have never in my life devoted so much time to something that, to this day, was the biggest waste of time in my life. I would love to drive out to Hollywood and jack this fool right in the mouth.
I didnt start watching the show until a few months after the show ended and I got hooked on it through Netflix... Spent the next 3 months watching it and went out of my way to not hear what the ending was. I have never in my life devoted so much time to something that, to this day, was the biggest waste of time in my life. I would love to drive out to Hollywood and jack this fool right in the mouth.
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
i understand
I didnt start watching the show until a few months after the show ended and I got hooked on it through Netflix... Spent the next 3 months watching it and went out of my way to not hear what the ending was. I have never in my life devoted so much time to something that, to this day, was the biggest waste of time in my life. I would love to drive out to Hollywood and jack this fool right in the mouth.
i understand
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
never seen 5 minutes of lost...
...but as a writer i think you owe your viewers a sensible ending.
if you dont give them that you've bilked them.
never seen 5 minutes of lost...
...but as a writer i think you owe your viewers a sensible ending.
if you dont give them that you've bilked them.
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
church
church
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
but after that...
i watched for another season but i had to stop, shit was just awful i couldn't believe people actually stuck with it...
man the first season of lost was some of the best TV i had seen at the time
but after that...
i watched for another season but i had to stop, shit was just awful i couldn't believe people actually stuck with it...
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
the writers had no singular story goal in mind and just winged it from week to week.
thats some bullshit of the highest order, but it worked for the network.
man the first season of lost was some of the best TV i had seen at the time
but after that...
the writers had no singular story goal in mind and just winged it from week to week.
thats some bullshit of the highest order, but it worked for the network.
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
Lost showrunners explain ending: "They were not dead the whole time"
they keep digging they own graves...
Lost showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have explained to fans that the characters were not dead the whole time.
Speaking at the PaleyFest in LA to mark the 10th anniversary of Lost's premiere, the pair said the island was never purgatory, as widely believed.
"No, no, no. They were not dead the whole time," Cuse said, explaining that footage of the plane wreckage at the end of the show was meant to act as a buffer.
"We thought, let's put those shots [of the plane wreckage] at the end of the show and it will be a little buffer and lull. And when people saw the footage of the plane with no survivors, it exacerbated the problem.
"But the characters definitely survived the plane crash and really were on a very real island. At the very end of the series, though? Yep, they were all dead when they met up in heaven for the final 'church' scene."
Cuse also shared that Lost was metaphorically about "people who were lost and searching for meaning and purpose in their lives".
"We felt the ending really had to be spiritual, and one that talks about destiny," he explained. "We would have long discourses about the nature of the show, for many years, and we decided it needed to mean something to us and our belief system and the characters and how all of us are here to lift each other up in our lives."
Lindelof added: "For us, one of the ongoing conversations with the audience and there was a very early perception, was that the island was purgatory and we were always out there saying, 'It's not purgatory, this is real, we're not going to Sixth Sense you'. And we felt it too that the show had to become sort of meta in this way."
Lindelof also hinted that Hurley may have been considered the show's 'top dog', in response to a fan's question.
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"In terms of the set, I can't answer the question but in terms of the show, I guess we can point to who ended up running the island."
Meanwhile, the pair refused to answer questions on who was on board the other outrigger during season 5's 'The Little Prince' episode, but said they did plan to identify the group originally.
"It was a cool answer but what's cooler is to not answer it... We will probably auction [the script] off for a great charity cause a few years from now."
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s10/lo...ending-they-were-not-dead-the-whole-time.html
Lost showrunners explain ending: "They were not dead the whole time"
they keep digging they own graves...Lost showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have explained to fans that the characters were not dead the whole time.
Speaking at the PaleyFest in LA to mark the 10th anniversary of Lost's premiere, the pair said the island was never purgatory, as widely believed.
"No, no, no. They were not dead the whole time," Cuse said, explaining that footage of the plane wreckage at the end of the show was meant to act as a buffer.
"We thought, let's put those shots [of the plane wreckage] at the end of the show and it will be a little buffer and lull. And when people saw the footage of the plane with no survivors, it exacerbated the problem.
"But the characters definitely survived the plane crash and really were on a very real island. At the very end of the series, though? Yep, they were all dead when they met up in heaven for the final 'church' scene."
Cuse also shared that Lost was metaphorically about "people who were lost and searching for meaning and purpose in their lives".
"We felt the ending really had to be spiritual, and one that talks about destiny," he explained. "We would have long discourses about the nature of the show, for many years, and we decided it needed to mean something to us and our belief system and the characters and how all of us are here to lift each other up in our lives."
Lindelof added: "For us, one of the ongoing conversations with the audience and there was a very early perception, was that the island was purgatory and we were always out there saying, 'It's not purgatory, this is real, we're not going to Sixth Sense you'. And we felt it too that the show had to become sort of meta in this way."
Lindelof also hinted that Hurley may have been considered the show's 'top dog', in response to a fan's question.
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"In terms of the set, I can't answer the question but in terms of the show, I guess we can point to who ended up running the island."
Meanwhile, the pair refused to answer questions on who was on board the other outrigger during season 5's 'The Little Prince' episode, but said they did plan to identify the group originally.
"It was a cool answer but what's cooler is to not answer it... We will probably auction [the script] off for a great charity cause a few years from now."
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s10/lo...ending-they-were-not-dead-the-whole-time.html
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
‘Lost’ Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
http://screenrant.com/lost-finale-explanation-kofi-61464/
THEY WERE NOT “DEAD THE WHOLE TIME”
I don’t know why people are having trouble understanding this, as it is CLEARLY explained in the final minutes of the finale episode by Christian Shephard (Jack’s dad). The original Oceanic 815 plane crash happened. Everything on the Island through seasons 1-6 happened. The “flash sideways” universe introduced in season 6 was a sort of stop-over point between life and afterlife (referred to here as the “purgatory universe”).
Lost The Last Supper image 3 Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Each person in this “purgatory universe” created a reality for themselves based on their lingering issues in life – that which they could not “let go” of. For Jack it was Daddy issues; Kate, the guilt of murder; Sawyer, the quest to find “Sawyer” and be a better man; Sayid, the unrequited love of Nadia; Charlie, looking for something “real” in his hollow life of fame, etc…
Everyone was still attached to their Earthly concerns (we’re getting very Buddhist here, bear with me) – but when they made contact with those people they’d met on the Island, they remembered the journey and growth they had experienced because of the Island, and could finally understand the connections and “purpose” brought into their damaged lives by being there. With that greater understanding of themselves, they were each ready to “leave” or “move on” to the next phase of existence – i.e., the true afterlife.
WHAT WAS THAT FINAL IMAGE OF THE CRASHED PLANE?
Some people are convinced the final image during the end credits of the Lost finale was the “clue” to the characters being dead the whole time. OK, let’s think about this: The image appears during the closing credits, after the final appearance of the “LOST” logo. That means that the story had officially ended. Saying that the biggest reveal came while the end credits were rolling is like saying a movie’s climax happens during the end credits. Not bloody likely.
The image of the plane crash (if you look closely) has memorabilia from the Lostie’s time on the beach where they first made camp. Shacks, towels, etc… it was one part nostalgia (remember where it all began?) and also one part commentary on the circular nature of the Island.
Like the Black Rock ship that brought Richard to the Island (“Ab Aeterno“), or the downed plane with the heroin that had Mr. Ecko’s brother’s corpse inside of it (“The 23rd Psalm“), the remains of Oceanic 815 and the evidence of a small community built on the beach are just more monuments of the Island. The next time somebody crashes there, they’ll see that stuff and wonder what the “mystery” behind it is…
Then they’ll whine and complain about how unsatisfying the answer is. (“What? That’s how that mystical guy “Hurley” came to the Island? LAME.”)
WHAT WAS DESMOND’S POWER?
lost desmond hume Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
One of the biggest things people seem to be questioning is how Desmond was able to “wake up” from the purgatory universe and how he had the know-how to “wake up” the other Losties. For that answer, you really just have to look back over the history of Desmond.
Desmond (specifically through his connection to Penny Widmore) is a sort of “constant” in the show. No matter what happens, when, or where, Desmond seems somehow immune to the Island’s energy (which has electromagnetic properties) and has a sort of awareness that can transcend space and time (his consciousness shifts seen in episodes like “The Constant“). These “shifts” and Widmore’s explanation that Desmond is special because of his resistance to the Island’s energies, imply that Desmond would even be able to “shift” his consciousness back and forth between this universe and the purgatory one, catalyzed by Widmore’s team placing him in that huge electromagnetic machine in the season six episode, “Happily Ever After“.
So, it does stand to reason (at least Lost reasoning) that Desmond – after having his consciousness “shifted” to the purgatory reality – would “wake up” after encountering HIS constant, Penny. It’s another fast and loose metaphysical explanation, but one that (for me) still works within the framework of the show.
WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH THE ISLAND’S “RULES?”
Lost Top 25 Moments Jacob and Man in Black conversation Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Over the course of the show people have wondered about the mythology of the Island – where it came from, what it is and what are the “rules” that govern it and its mystical protectors? Admittedly, this is an area where the showrunners played things fast and loose, hoping that the momentum of the characters’ story arcs and the whole “good vs. evil” showdown would be enough to appease most fans. Alas, not so.
Season six of Lost did a great deal to semi-explain what the island was – a sort of container for a very important energy that seemingly links this world with worlds beyond… or something. That energy is represented by light and water, and if that light goes out and the water stops flowing, the world is basically screwed. Everything magical or fantastic about the Island stems from this energy, and many of the technological oddities found on the Island (the Swan Station from season 2) are a result of the Dharma Initiative trying to harness and control that energy (i.e., man trying to bend magic and mysticism to the will of modern science).
lost dharma initiative stations 570x532 Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
However, there are some things that were definitely left unexplained: Why did the Man In Black become a smoke monster when he was exposed to the light (was it a manifestation of his corrupted soul)?; What is the nature of the “rules” that governed certain aspects of the Island – who could come and go, who could kill who, who was healed from injury (Locke, Rose), who lived forever (Richard). How were these rules established and maintained?
The Jacob/MIB origin episode, “Across The Sea”, attempted to fill in that aspect of the Island mythology, but what we came away with were a lot of vague pseudo-explanations. The protector of the Island basically makes up the rules and once those rules are established they are set until somebody (a new protector?) changes them. This is the reason why the MIB was obsessed with “finding a loophole” in order to kill Jacob; it’s also why Jack was ultimately able to kill the MIB. Smokey was connected to the energy source, and when Jack had Desmond “turn off” that energy, Smokey lost his powers and was merely flesh and blood again.
lost smoke monster cerberus esau Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Makes sense…doesn’t it?
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE BABY MAMA DRAMA?
One of the earliest sub-plots of the Lost mythos was the notion that pregnant women died on the Island before they could successfully give birth. This was especially important during season one, back when Claire was pregnant with Aaron and got kidnapped and experimented on by Ethan, a memeber of The Others (“Raised by Another” & “Homecoming“). Of course we now know that Ethan was likely working with baby-doctor Juliet to help Claire – that is before Charlie killed Ethan (oops!) – and that Aaron was likely born on the Island without incident because Claire was already far enough along in her pregnancy before coming to the Island (just like Jacob and the Man In Black’s mother).
However, the pregnancy issue popped up again in season 3 when Sun learned that she was pregnant (“The Glass Ballerina” & “D.O.C.” ) and was a the prominent focus of Juliet’s flashback arch (“One of Us“). So whatever happened to the mystery of the baby mama drama?
lost Sun Juliet Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Simple answer? Story developments made the issue a moot point in later seasons. Aaron was born fine, Sun eventually gave birth OFF the Island and Juliet died, even after she had no more pregnant patients to tend to. So really, when you think about it, there was no more of this story left to tell.
But does that excuse the fact that we never found out why pregnant women were dying on the Island? It might be bugging you, but I’m chalking this one up to being another random “rule of the Island.” Or maybe electromagnetic mystical lights just aren’t good for fetuses. Either way.
WHAT WAS WITH THE STATUE?
lost the statue Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
This is one Lost mystery I don’t really need answered. Who built the statue, why they built it and what did represent are all things you can probably find out with some historical research on ancient cultures. People who have done the research claim the statue represents a goddess or fertility or something along those lines, linking the broken statue with the Island’s baby mama drama. Personally, I can neither confirm or deny the historical relevance of the statue - if you’re curious, you should do the research.
As for the relevance of the statue to the Lost mythos: to me was evidence that the Island had been around for a long, long, time, and that people had been coming to it throughout history. So basically, it was a way to let viewers know, “This place plays a pivotal role in mankind’s existence.”
I’m not trying to look much deeper than that.
‘Lost’ Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
http://screenrant.com/lost-finale-explanation-kofi-61464/
THEY WERE NOT “DEAD THE WHOLE TIME”
I don’t know why people are having trouble understanding this, as it is CLEARLY explained in the final minutes of the finale episode by Christian Shephard (Jack’s dad). The original Oceanic 815 plane crash happened. Everything on the Island through seasons 1-6 happened. The “flash sideways” universe introduced in season 6 was a sort of stop-over point between life and afterlife (referred to here as the “purgatory universe”).
Lost The Last Supper image 3 Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Each person in this “purgatory universe” created a reality for themselves based on their lingering issues in life – that which they could not “let go” of. For Jack it was Daddy issues; Kate, the guilt of murder; Sawyer, the quest to find “Sawyer” and be a better man; Sayid, the unrequited love of Nadia; Charlie, looking for something “real” in his hollow life of fame, etc…
Everyone was still attached to their Earthly concerns (we’re getting very Buddhist here, bear with me) – but when they made contact with those people they’d met on the Island, they remembered the journey and growth they had experienced because of the Island, and could finally understand the connections and “purpose” brought into their damaged lives by being there. With that greater understanding of themselves, they were each ready to “leave” or “move on” to the next phase of existence – i.e., the true afterlife.
WHAT WAS THAT FINAL IMAGE OF THE CRASHED PLANE?
Some people are convinced the final image during the end credits of the Lost finale was the “clue” to the characters being dead the whole time. OK, let’s think about this: The image appears during the closing credits, after the final appearance of the “LOST” logo. That means that the story had officially ended. Saying that the biggest reveal came while the end credits were rolling is like saying a movie’s climax happens during the end credits. Not bloody likely.
The image of the plane crash (if you look closely) has memorabilia from the Lostie’s time on the beach where they first made camp. Shacks, towels, etc… it was one part nostalgia (remember where it all began?) and also one part commentary on the circular nature of the Island.
Like the Black Rock ship that brought Richard to the Island (“Ab Aeterno“), or the downed plane with the heroin that had Mr. Ecko’s brother’s corpse inside of it (“The 23rd Psalm“), the remains of Oceanic 815 and the evidence of a small community built on the beach are just more monuments of the Island. The next time somebody crashes there, they’ll see that stuff and wonder what the “mystery” behind it is…
Then they’ll whine and complain about how unsatisfying the answer is. (“What? That’s how that mystical guy “Hurley” came to the Island? LAME.”)
WHAT WAS DESMOND’S POWER?
lost desmond hume Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
One of the biggest things people seem to be questioning is how Desmond was able to “wake up” from the purgatory universe and how he had the know-how to “wake up” the other Losties. For that answer, you really just have to look back over the history of Desmond.
Desmond (specifically through his connection to Penny Widmore) is a sort of “constant” in the show. No matter what happens, when, or where, Desmond seems somehow immune to the Island’s energy (which has electromagnetic properties) and has a sort of awareness that can transcend space and time (his consciousness shifts seen in episodes like “The Constant“). These “shifts” and Widmore’s explanation that Desmond is special because of his resistance to the Island’s energies, imply that Desmond would even be able to “shift” his consciousness back and forth between this universe and the purgatory one, catalyzed by Widmore’s team placing him in that huge electromagnetic machine in the season six episode, “Happily Ever After“.
So, it does stand to reason (at least Lost reasoning) that Desmond – after having his consciousness “shifted” to the purgatory reality – would “wake up” after encountering HIS constant, Penny. It’s another fast and loose metaphysical explanation, but one that (for me) still works within the framework of the show.
WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH THE ISLAND’S “RULES?”
Lost Top 25 Moments Jacob and Man in Black conversation Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Over the course of the show people have wondered about the mythology of the Island – where it came from, what it is and what are the “rules” that govern it and its mystical protectors? Admittedly, this is an area where the showrunners played things fast and loose, hoping that the momentum of the characters’ story arcs and the whole “good vs. evil” showdown would be enough to appease most fans. Alas, not so.
Season six of Lost did a great deal to semi-explain what the island was – a sort of container for a very important energy that seemingly links this world with worlds beyond… or something. That energy is represented by light and water, and if that light goes out and the water stops flowing, the world is basically screwed. Everything magical or fantastic about the Island stems from this energy, and many of the technological oddities found on the Island (the Swan Station from season 2) are a result of the Dharma Initiative trying to harness and control that energy (i.e., man trying to bend magic and mysticism to the will of modern science).
lost dharma initiative stations 570x532 Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
However, there are some things that were definitely left unexplained: Why did the Man In Black become a smoke monster when he was exposed to the light (was it a manifestation of his corrupted soul)?; What is the nature of the “rules” that governed certain aspects of the Island – who could come and go, who could kill who, who was healed from injury (Locke, Rose), who lived forever (Richard). How were these rules established and maintained?
The Jacob/MIB origin episode, “Across The Sea”, attempted to fill in that aspect of the Island mythology, but what we came away with were a lot of vague pseudo-explanations. The protector of the Island basically makes up the rules and once those rules are established they are set until somebody (a new protector?) changes them. This is the reason why the MIB was obsessed with “finding a loophole” in order to kill Jacob; it’s also why Jack was ultimately able to kill the MIB. Smokey was connected to the energy source, and when Jack had Desmond “turn off” that energy, Smokey lost his powers and was merely flesh and blood again.
lost smoke monster cerberus esau Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Makes sense…doesn’t it?
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE BABY MAMA DRAMA?
One of the earliest sub-plots of the Lost mythos was the notion that pregnant women died on the Island before they could successfully give birth. This was especially important during season one, back when Claire was pregnant with Aaron and got kidnapped and experimented on by Ethan, a memeber of The Others (“Raised by Another” & “Homecoming“). Of course we now know that Ethan was likely working with baby-doctor Juliet to help Claire – that is before Charlie killed Ethan (oops!) – and that Aaron was likely born on the Island without incident because Claire was already far enough along in her pregnancy before coming to the Island (just like Jacob and the Man In Black’s mother).
However, the pregnancy issue popped up again in season 3 when Sun learned that she was pregnant (“The Glass Ballerina” & “D.O.C.” ) and was a the prominent focus of Juliet’s flashback arch (“One of Us“). So whatever happened to the mystery of the baby mama drama?
lost Sun Juliet Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
Simple answer? Story developments made the issue a moot point in later seasons. Aaron was born fine, Sun eventually gave birth OFF the Island and Juliet died, even after she had no more pregnant patients to tend to. So really, when you think about it, there was no more of this story left to tell.
But does that excuse the fact that we never found out why pregnant women were dying on the Island? It might be bugging you, but I’m chalking this one up to being another random “rule of the Island.” Or maybe electromagnetic mystical lights just aren’t good for fetuses. Either way.
WHAT WAS WITH THE STATUE?
lost the statue Lost Finale Explained: Answering the Unanswered Questions
This is one Lost mystery I don’t really need answered. Who built the statue, why they built it and what did represent are all things you can probably find out with some historical research on ancient cultures. People who have done the research claim the statue represents a goddess or fertility or something along those lines, linking the broken statue with the Island’s baby mama drama. Personally, I can neither confirm or deny the historical relevance of the statue - if you’re curious, you should do the research.
As for the relevance of the statue to the Lost mythos: to me was evidence that the Island had been around for a long, long, time, and that people had been coming to it throughout history. So basically, it was a way to let viewers know, “This place plays a pivotal role in mankind’s existence.”
I’m not trying to look much deeper than that.
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
On what the finale was all about: Carlton explained: "Very early on we had decided that even though Lost is a show about people on the island, really, metaphorically, it was about people who were lost and searching for meaning and purpose in their lives. And because of that, we felt the ending really had to be spiritual, and one that talks about destiny. We would have long discourses about the nature of the show, for many years, and we decided it needed to mean something to us and our belief system and the characters and how all of us are here to lift each other up in our lives." (Hence, the whole brilliang "Constant" concept. Swoon x infinity, Desmond and Penny.)
Damon added: "For us, one of the ongoing conversations with the audience and there was a very early perception, was that the island was purgatory and we were always out there saying 'It's not purgatory, this is real, we're not going to Sixth Sense you.' And we felt it too that the show had to become sort of meta in this way. And so the writers said, 'Obviously, there are all these mysteries. But what if we answered a mystery that was never asked, what's the meaning of life and what happens when you die?'"
Damon added that the idea for the "Flash Sideways" world came about between the planning of seasons four and five because "We were out of flashbacks and we were done with flash forwards. So we started to think about, what if we sort of Trojan horsed in a paradoxical sideways storyline?"
This creativity came into play after ABC sold the series oversees internationally for longer than the storyline was originally plotted out by Damon and Carlton and their brilliant team of writers, so...Things got more...creaitve.
^^^
And they blatantly denied this at the time...and almost got Mr. Echo damn near blacklisted when he complained about the writing and story lines publicly stating they were making sh*t up as they went along.
On what the finale was all about: Carlton explained: "Very early on we had decided that even though Lost is a show about people on the island, really, metaphorically, it was about people who were lost and searching for meaning and purpose in their lives. And because of that, we felt the ending really had to be spiritual, and one that talks about destiny. We would have long discourses about the nature of the show, for many years, and we decided it needed to mean something to us and our belief system and the characters and how all of us are here to lift each other up in our lives." (Hence, the whole brilliang "Constant" concept. Swoon x infinity, Desmond and Penny.)
Damon added: "For us, one of the ongoing conversations with the audience and there was a very early perception, was that the island was purgatory and we were always out there saying 'It's not purgatory, this is real, we're not going to Sixth Sense you.' And we felt it too that the show had to become sort of meta in this way. And so the writers said, 'Obviously, there are all these mysteries. But what if we answered a mystery that was never asked, what's the meaning of life and what happens when you die?'"
Damon added that the idea for the "Flash Sideways" world came about between the planning of seasons four and five because "We were out of flashbacks and we were done with flash forwards. So we started to think about, what if we sort of Trojan horsed in a paradoxical sideways storyline?"
This creativity came into play after ABC sold the series oversees internationally for longer than the storyline was originally plotted out by Damon and Carlton and their brilliant team of writers, so...Things got more...creaitve.
^^^
And they blatantly denied this at the time...and almost got Mr. Echo damn near blacklisted when he complained about the writing and story lines publicly stating they were making sh*t up as they went along.
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending
* i do not understand their motivation to completely and utterly DESTROY any type of lasting positive energy and remaining integrity of this show...
Yes, Some Episodes of Lost Sucked
Every few months, to replenish the internet's supply of grousing, someone has to write an article about Lost. This time, it's Esquire's turn, and Lost showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse admit that not every episode of the show was a perfectly formed gem to be treasured for all eternity. "We did 121 hours of Lost," Lindelof says. "Arguably only 15 to 20 of them were subpar, bordering on turds." Cuse agrees.
Season three's "Strange in a Strange Land" is indeed as awful as Cuse remembers — Bai Ling, etc — but not everyone would call that the worst episode. Some of us are still chapped about "Across the Sea," the antepenultimate episode that had Allison Janney as the olden-days murder-guardian of the island. Man, oh man, that one still kinda burns.
* i do not understand their motivation to completely and utterly DESTROY any type of lasting positive energy and remaining integrity of this show...
Yes, Some Episodes of Lost Sucked
Every few months, to replenish the internet's supply of grousing, someone has to write an article about Lost. This time, it's Esquire's turn, and Lost showrunners Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse admit that not every episode of the show was a perfectly formed gem to be treasured for all eternity. "We did 121 hours of Lost," Lindelof says. "Arguably only 15 to 20 of them were subpar, bordering on turds." Cuse agrees.
I mean, I think the episode where Jack gets his tattoos in Thailand [is the worst episode]. I think it's cringe-worthy, where he's flying the kite on the beach. It was not our finest hour. We used Matthew Fox's real tattoos. That's how desperate we were for flashback stories.
Season three's "Strange in a Strange Land" is indeed as awful as Cuse remembers — Bai Ling, etc — but not everyone would call that the worst episode. Some of us are still chapped about "Across the Sea," the antepenultimate episode that had Allison Janney as the olden-days murder-guardian of the island. Man, oh man, that one still kinda burns.
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
When September 22, 2014, hits, how should I feel? Because I've been obsessing over the same TV show (Lost) for ten years, and I don't know if that's good or bad. — Lizzy
Yes, Lizzy, September 22 marks 10 years since Lost debuted. Obsessing over a TV show isn't on its own good or bad; if it's bringing you joy and a sense of belonging, then it's good! And if it's making you miserable and alienating you from things you once enjoyed, then it's bad. You're obviously not alone in your ongoing obsession, either — try reading a review of The Leftovers that doesn't mention it, or listening to any showrunner talk about the pitfalls of crafting a series finale. I can't tell you or anyone else how to feel, but I'll tell you how I feel and hope that helps you on your journey.
I'm a born TV obsessive, but Lost was one of the only obsessively watched shows that I didn't have to seek out fellow devotees. Sometimes I still think I'm the only person who truly loves and understands Melrose Place. My parents used to buy me books about The X-Files, because, you know, what else was I going to do with all this pent-up X-Files enthusiasm? But when Lost came out, it was like everyone else finally showed up to my party. Everybody I knew wanted to talk about it, to theorize about the numbers, to argue about who was the hottest (Sayid, you fools!), to point out easter eggs, etc.
When I think about Lost, it's totally woven into those years of my life — with my friends, with my family, with where I was working, the apartment I was living in. Lost ushered me into adulthood, and both the show and growing up seemed like such promising ventures a decade ago. I'm not just disappointed in the end of Lost: Adulthood is kind of the worst, too, even during rosé season. We have to go back! they said. It sounded good to me. It still does.
When September 22, 2014, hits, how should I feel? Because I've been obsessing over the same TV show (Lost) for ten years, and I don't know if that's good or bad. — Lizzy
Yes, Lizzy, September 22 marks 10 years since Lost debuted. Obsessing over a TV show isn't on its own good or bad; if it's bringing you joy and a sense of belonging, then it's good! And if it's making you miserable and alienating you from things you once enjoyed, then it's bad. You're obviously not alone in your ongoing obsession, either — try reading a review of The Leftovers that doesn't mention it, or listening to any showrunner talk about the pitfalls of crafting a series finale. I can't tell you or anyone else how to feel, but I'll tell you how I feel and hope that helps you on your journey.
Here's how I feel about Lost: I'll never love like that again. There are shows I've loved more, and endings that have left me colder, but Lost captured a part of my interest and imagination like no other show ever has, and yet sticking with it through the bitter end ruined a sliver of me. It's not "once burned, twice shy" exactly; all TV fans have been burned plenty of times. But Lost burned the hottest, and it felt like it was on purpose. It increased my skepticism for all subsequent shows.
I'm a born TV obsessive, but Lost was one of the only obsessively watched shows that I didn't have to seek out fellow devotees. Sometimes I still think I'm the only person who truly loves and understands Melrose Place. My parents used to buy me books about The X-Files, because, you know, what else was I going to do with all this pent-up X-Files enthusiasm? But when Lost came out, it was like everyone else finally showed up to my party. Everybody I knew wanted to talk about it, to theorize about the numbers, to argue about who was the hottest (Sayid, you fools!), to point out easter eggs, etc.
When I think about Lost, it's totally woven into those years of my life — with my friends, with my family, with where I was working, the apartment I was living in. Lost ushered me into adulthood, and both the show and growing up seemed like such promising ventures a decade ago. I'm not just disappointed in the end of Lost: Adulthood is kind of the worst, too, even during rosé season. We have to go back! they said. It sounded good to me. It still does.
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
And as if the reviews for "The Leftovers" wernt bad enough. I now am certain to never give that show a second of my time knowing that this asshole is attached to it.
And this piece of shit still has the audacity to be arrogant and evasive in answering the simplest of questions about that plothole filled disjointed shitfest of a show. Incredible.
And as if the reviews for "The Leftovers" wernt bad enough. I now am certain to never give that show a second of my time knowing that this asshole is attached to it.
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
Yall are tripping, Why does everything Need an explanation??
I said it once Before, I love Lost. Best TV show ever IMO and the fact that they didnt answer all the mysteries of the island makes it even more special to me.
They answered Just enough questions to satisfy me an left enough unanswered for me and you to still wonder about and make up our own conclusions today.
Who cares who was shooting at them, Sawyer and Juliet didn't know and still dont, so why should we?
Yall are tripping, Why does everything Need an explanation??
I said it once Before, I love Lost. Best TV show ever IMO and the fact that they didnt answer all the mysteries of the island makes it even more special to me.
They answered Just enough questions to satisfy me an left enough unanswered for me and you to still wonder about and make up our own conclusions today.
Who cares who was shooting at them, Sawyer and Juliet didn't know and still dont, so why should we?
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
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Re: For bitter LOST fans...
Man that was just one example of a million fuck ups. The show was filled with unexplained storylines and buildup that was left discarded and unanswered after endless teases and focus. The last two seasons of that show were a joke and the finale was utter trash. Save the contrarian nonsense for another time. Lost doesnt deserve it.
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
Too Bad You feel that, Way. I thought It was great. Answering to many questions would have cheapened the show and took away the whole reason for even watching it all those years. But What do I know right.
Too Bad You feel that, Way. I thought It was great. Answering to many questions would have cheapened the show and took away the whole reason for even watching it all those years. But What do I know right.
Re: For bitter LOST fans...
But the entire show revolved around a loyal following that watched religiously based largely on all the veiled promises for explanation and reveals. There were entire websites, blogs, forums, and fanclubs devoted to deciphering storylines, coded messages, characters, symbols, etc. etc. Thats what the show was built on. And the writers promised the end would reward those loyal people with closure and answers.
Those guys screwed their fans over big time.
Good for you for being able to enjoy it though. You are definitely one of the few.
But the entire show revolved around a loyal following that watched religiously based largely on all the veiled promises for explanation and reveals. There were entire websites, blogs, forums, and fanclubs devoted to deciphering storylines, coded messages, characters, symbols, etc. etc. Thats what the show was built on. And the writers promised the end would reward those loyal people with closure and answers.
Those guys screwed their fans over big time.
Good for you for being able to enjoy it though. You are definitely one of the few.
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