Tillis: What’s the best thing we can do for people with government assistance?
Carson: Get them off of it.
Tillis: Do you think there are any sacred cows in HUD that stand in the way of that outcome?
Carson: I've been studying it carefully and I haven't seen one yet.
Tillis: Do you think that to a certain extent over the years we've gone from providing housing to providing warehousing for an unacceptable number of people who are supported through the federal government?
Carson: Well, the key to your question there was the word “unacceptable.” And yes, absolutely.
Tillis: Do you believe that HUD and the other agencies have creeped their scopes over time and that you can be someone who may say that HUD needs to be smaller, or some other organization needs to be smaller so that the people best able to provide the safety net, the agency best positioned to provide the safety net can do it, and you can complement in some points and take the lead in others?
Carson: I believe we need to be much more efficient.