***Tripster's 2008 Investments (Ongoing thread)***
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Man, i hate seeming like a trader rather than an investor, but it seems an investor would have to have the internal fortitude to ride LONG on solid companies & not be hit by these major bumps. Funny to see BMO raise target on POT to 200/ AGU to 95. It's amazing how these banks just dole out targets.
Capone...i'd hate to be on margin in this market...learned me lesson in margin yrs ago,,cash & oly cash accounts now...
As an aside,,,i want to say a little about the PMGs, if you've researched them you know the issues, but I'd point out rhodium to you as the platinum metal which has the most limited investment exposure thus truly provides the demand for the metal. Pal & Plat are being worked up & down due to the investment angle of the two..it's not that there is more or it is cheaper, simply put, they are going to be volatile due to this..rhodium will display pure non investment demand/price. I'm confident in PAL for many reasons, while it may be a longer wait, i still believe platinum & palladium have a far ways to go,,as seen by longer term charts.............
hang in there guys,,,those on margins,,,stop it,lol
Capone...i'd hate to be on margin in this market...learned me lesson in margin yrs ago,,cash & oly cash accounts now...
As an aside,,,i want to say a little about the PMGs, if you've researched them you know the issues, but I'd point out rhodium to you as the platinum metal which has the most limited investment exposure thus truly provides the demand for the metal. Pal & Plat are being worked up & down due to the investment angle of the two..it's not that there is more or it is cheaper, simply put, they are going to be volatile due to this..rhodium will display pure non investment demand/price. I'm confident in PAL for many reasons, while it may be a longer wait, i still believe platinum & palladium have a far ways to go,,as seen by longer term charts.............
hang in there guys,,,those on margins,,,stop it,lol
PAL is down and im not even worried (yet), hehe im sure things will work out
The chances of PAL & SWC turning into a triple digit stock is more likely to happen than my money making anything worth mentioning in a bank account. Now is the time to buy but calling a bottom is tough. There were some great picks and knowledge spread around here. Most likely the ones who got in early werent lucky they were prepared. Hopefully in 2011(or sooner) I'll be happy as a man who dropped 5k on Apple in 2003.
Man time fly.....tool up!!
Well for me I only use margin on certain stocks. Trust me I'm no fool margin is bad if you bet the farm & inexperienced with the risk reward ratio, trust me over the years I heard alot of catastrophic stories thats not even funny
. Right now i used margin in about 25% of my hands & 75% of those hands are short positions. My winning % with that strategy is about 75% to 80%.
This market is great for experience traders but horrible for investors. Right now I'm playing these stocks like LAME BITCHES, they shook therefore their predictable & I'm FUCKING them hard before they F me!
I have a great deal of confidence in PAL/SWC as well. In the long haul i think the prices they trade at now could be small to where they could be. Metals are not going to go down, they will be volatile but will ontinue the assent. PAL/SWC stand to benefit. I'll carry my losses for now. AGs have been slaughtered today, POT chaving off 12.00. Mos -9. I decided to hop back in POT,,but already i'm down on it,,such a market,,,agree w/ the last poster - its there to play, but if you step in & u go red quick the play turns bad,,,ah well...no loss till you sell...
Any one have ANY stock thats been doing ok of late??? I can't seem to name one..
All my position have been red for about 5 days. It look like a murder scene in there.
Popo, we have to go back to the recession basics........
Don't fall in love with the stock, fall in love with the % increase.
It's a recession and we keep forgetting the cycles.
The market has to tank for a couple of weeks for teh fed to cut interest rates again.
We forgot the lessons of January............
Take your profit and stand on the sidelines until the fed cuts the rate.
Why are we buying now? We are not near this artificial bottom.....
Don't fall in love with the stock, fall in love with the % increase.
It's a recession and we keep forgetting the cycles.
The market has to tank for a couple of weeks for teh fed to cut interest rates again.
We forgot the lessons of January............
Take your profit and stand on the sidelines until the fed cuts the rate.
Why are we buying now? We are not near this artificial bottom.....
Popo, we have to go back to the recession basics........
Don't fall in love with the stock, fall in love with the % increase.
It's a recession and we keep forgetting the cycles.
The market has to tank for a couple of weeks for teh fed to cut interest rates again.
We forgot the lessons of January............
Take your profit and stand on the sidelines until the fed cuts the rate.
Why are we buying now? We are not near this artificial bottom.....
I've taken that course, there is no love among stocks, but a golden prospect is worth the wait, sometimes you have to peddle coal to find diamonds, I took most of January profits off,..still holding down about 20% on PAL..
POT/AGU/COIN/COINW - All had to be dismissed for good service & behavior.I'll see how PAL shapes up thru earnings, having been a long time metal investor..until something shows me that anything this earth produces isn't valuable, then it's the time to bail on metals...until then,,i'll watch things like oil at $108, right in time for spring..125-150 for summer. I'll wait out platinum & palladium,,
Week of 3/17/2008 upcomings Ipo's
Company Name--- Symbol--- Price Range--- Shares--- Underwriter--- Trade Date
CardioNet----------- BEAT---- $22.00-$24.00--6.6 mil----Citi------------ 3/18/2008
Pogo Jet-------------POGO----$12.50-$16.50--7.0 mil-- WR Hambrecht--3/18/2008
Visa-------------------V--------$37.00-$42.00--406.0 mil--- J.P. Morgan--3/20/2008
Company Name--- Symbol--- Price Range--- Shares--- Underwriter--- Trade Date
CardioNet----------- BEAT---- $22.00-$24.00--6.6 mil----Citi------------ 3/18/2008
Pogo Jet-------------POGO----$12.50-$16.50--7.0 mil-- WR Hambrecht--3/18/2008
Visa-------------------V--------$37.00-$42.00--406.0 mil--- J.P. Morgan--3/20/2008
That Visa stock is gonna skyrocket when it finally start. Betta get in early while it's still in the 40's before it takes off!!
ahhhhhhhhhhh shit here comes visa, you guys still think its a good buy or is it over price, i think PoPo said he felt it was? I'l going to get some of it ust in case I think the hype will move it quite a bit
Felt VIsa was coming out the gate a bit too big, the largest IPO ever. Mastercard really paved the way for Visa, to go this big. I think this market will be looking for new blood, & Visa might be something they use a bit. People are saying its going to skyrocket...WHY?? It's coming out the box as a $20B+ company,
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=MA&t=2y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
Mastercard is a 25B company, w/ several years on the public markets...you think Visa is 2x,3x,4x Mastercard..or are the EVEN..I think they just priced high & came big so the gains will be minimal..not saying its not a good play, but dont think you getting 500% on it...NO FREAKIN WAY!!!, I'd watch the market cap. as soon as it touched mastercard's the game stops..just opinion ofcourse....good luck to those who snag it
Todays is gonna be a good day to ride the wave & sell into the rally.
As far as Ipo's Visa is a big ass one. Right now I'm 60 - 40 for it. But I'm constantly thinking about the fact that BIG BANKS earnings comes out next week along with the feds FOMC Policy Statement Tuesday.
If those # are bad forget about it. So I'm waiting until mid Tuesday to make my decision. Also if i were to get in @ 37 - 39 I probably would take the penalty & dump @ the open which I believe would be around $45 range.
As far as Ipo's Visa is a big ass one. Right now I'm 60 - 40 for it. But I'm constantly thinking about the fact that BIG BANKS earnings comes out next week along with the feds FOMC Policy Statement Tuesday.
If those # are bad forget about it. So I'm waiting until mid Tuesday to make my decision. Also if i were to get in @ 37 - 39 I probably would take the penalty & dump @ the open which I believe would be around $45 range.
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Shit,,,,first time i seen anything green in ages..
Platinum & Palladium getting footing i hope...
PAL is to me basing, and it's looking pretty good.
Platinum & Palladium getting footing i hope...
PAL is to me basing, and it's looking pretty good.
Jag..seem like u tryin to do a quick okie doke exit out of PAL, i'm long on it,..will get my 40%+ returns on it i assure you..
i just hope it bases...in the 7-8 range i can be cool with that
just think the palladium/PGM prospect is just too good to miss out on,,,
http://seekingalpha.com/article/57172-calling-a-north-american-palladium-bottom
cat wrote a good write up on PAL/SWC there, that was all before electricity issues in SA..
when winter comes we'll see how SA moves,,90% capacity will be the norm soon enough.
Did'nt realize the Aggies moved up so big,,wow,,POT 13+/ MOS 10+ man these fund managers must have a good laugh, we oursleves are just account managers, but man you got to laugh at the movements sometimes.
will wait for new 52 week high on PAL..
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I bought into the bear market too early on PAL and ETFC last week. I used up most of my investment cash buying in the middle of the bear run, and I 'm waiting to get my money back. I'm gonna long PAL, but I'll pay attention to ETFC to see if it will break the 5-5.50 range. This subprime crap has everyone skittish about ETFC even though the money is still comin in (though some of it's being paid to Citadel to repay their loan.) Anyone else time the bear a little better? Also put a little into COIN today for a short-term play. Noteworthy news on COIN today. If they can pull it off, and get a government contract, this stock might be a decent long. Until we see some earnings though, it's still a short-term position for me. Thoughts?
Converted Organics Joins With SafeLawns.org to Sponsor National Mall Organic Lawn Test
Tuesday March 11, 6:00 am ET
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080311/20080311005497.html?.v=1
BOSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Converted Organics Inc. (NASDAQ:COIN - News) based in Boston, MA, producer of all natural, organic soil amendment and fertilizer products through food waste recycling, announced today their cooperative partnership with SafeLawns.org to sponsor the renovation of four acres of the National Mall in Washington, D.C. The project is a collaboration involving the National Park Service (NPS), Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Safelawns.org. This project plans to evaluate the efficacy of organic practices and products on a test site over the course of two years.
Safelawns.org, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting natural lawn care, is conducting the test, which the other two agencies will evaluate.
Representatives of SafeLawns.org began the test by tilling a four-acre section of existing lawn, adding compost, other natural soil amendments and organic fertilizer before reseeding the area. The team will return to the site frequently over the next two years to continue an organic maintenance program. The NPS and EPA will evaluate each of three plots: one maintained conventionally by the NPS, a second that has received standard organic treatment (maintenance via organic products), and a third that has had a complete organic makeover with Converted Organics’ all-natural, organic soil amendment and fertilizer products, with the focus on building healthy soil before planting.
“We are pleased to provide support needed for such a high visibility endeavor,” notes Rich Aleo, vice president of market development. “We are participating in this test precisely because we are confident it will be a success. With over 25 million people annually visiting our nation's capital, we expect this will be a highly visible demonstration of the effectiveness of organics.”
“Converted Organics welcomes the opportunity to lend our products and expertise to an effort that will enhance one of our nation’s most important public areas,” said Edward J. Gildea, President of Converted Organics Inc. “Being selected as a partner for this public-private collaboration is the latest demonstration of Converted Organics’ leadership position in the organic fertilizer industry, and we are proud to be such an integral component of this important effort.”
“We are extremely pleased with our relationship with Converted Organics. With their support we are better able to advance public education and other projects including the development of a certification seal that will help consumers become better stewards of environment,” said HGTV host Paul Tukey, author of the Organic Lawn Care Manual and founder of SafeLawns.org.
Converted Organics Joins With SafeLawns.org to Sponsor National Mall Organic Lawn Test
Tuesday March 11, 6:00 am ET
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080311/20080311005497.html?.v=1
BOSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Converted Organics Inc. (NASDAQ:COIN - News) based in Boston, MA, producer of all natural, organic soil amendment and fertilizer products through food waste recycling, announced today their cooperative partnership with SafeLawns.org to sponsor the renovation of four acres of the National Mall in Washington, D.C. The project is a collaboration involving the National Park Service (NPS), Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and Safelawns.org. This project plans to evaluate the efficacy of organic practices and products on a test site over the course of two years.
Safelawns.org, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting natural lawn care, is conducting the test, which the other two agencies will evaluate.
Representatives of SafeLawns.org began the test by tilling a four-acre section of existing lawn, adding compost, other natural soil amendments and organic fertilizer before reseeding the area. The team will return to the site frequently over the next two years to continue an organic maintenance program. The NPS and EPA will evaluate each of three plots: one maintained conventionally by the NPS, a second that has received standard organic treatment (maintenance via organic products), and a third that has had a complete organic makeover with Converted Organics’ all-natural, organic soil amendment and fertilizer products, with the focus on building healthy soil before planting.
“We are pleased to provide support needed for such a high visibility endeavor,” notes Rich Aleo, vice president of market development. “We are participating in this test precisely because we are confident it will be a success. With over 25 million people annually visiting our nation's capital, we expect this will be a highly visible demonstration of the effectiveness of organics.”
“Converted Organics welcomes the opportunity to lend our products and expertise to an effort that will enhance one of our nation’s most important public areas,” said Edward J. Gildea, President of Converted Organics Inc. “Being selected as a partner for this public-private collaboration is the latest demonstration of Converted Organics’ leadership position in the organic fertilizer industry, and we are proud to be such an integral component of this important effort.”
“We are extremely pleased with our relationship with Converted Organics. With their support we are better able to advance public education and other projects including the development of a certification seal that will help consumers become better stewards of environment,” said HGTV host Paul Tukey, author of the Organic Lawn Care Manual and founder of SafeLawns.org.
My cousin put 2500 into this TMA stock yesterday and he gained 130% OVERNIGHT. I never fall into stuff like this but he is a hardcore trader though.http://finance.google.com/finance?q=TMA&hl=en
playing for the dead cat bounce is always a crazy proposal. But sometimes, you get lucky with it. Good pickup for quick 100%.
MadSci...
COIN is a highly speculative company, with a very low share count. If the get their plant open in 2Q08, it will be intersting to watch how the market treats them...it's a great trading stock if you can play the swings, but they honestly have nothing to warrant the market cap the've been allowed to have,,..
Sounds like you need to network with cuzzo.
Network not go 50/50 with homeboy. Im sure you can afford to talk with cuz. Thats good company. Pay for dinner light some cigars meet on the golf course. Where the cash at?
You mofo's have inspired me to do something I've been talking about doing for the past 8 years!
I opened a ShareBuilder account, and started it with $1,000 in the account.
I am looking forward to the Visa IPO next week, as well as a few other things here and there. (Yes, I know i am only starting with $1,000 in the account....give me some time to get use to it ... and comfortable!)
This needs to be a sticky topic! Let's keep the momentum going!
I opened a ShareBuilder account, and started it with $1,000 in the account.
I am looking forward to the Visa IPO next week, as well as a few other things here and there. (Yes, I know i am only starting with $1,000 in the account....give me some time to get use to it ... and comfortable!)
This needs to be a sticky topic! Let's keep the momentum going!
becoming like a cult,,we jus converting peeps onto some money grind....welcome man...don't feel bad i started w/ 2k, way back in the day...
seems like alot of ya'll goin in on Visa...hmm,,i'm waiting on Intrepid, suckers ain even price yet
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