Transformers was Extremely Racist!

BENBRIZZLE said:
EXACTLY WHAT ROLE DO YOU BELIEVE A BLACK MAN HASNT PLAYED. BLACK PEOPLE HAVE PLAYED THE PRESIDENT TO DOCTORS TO YOU NAME IT. THE PROBLEM IS YOU DONT WANT BLACKS TO PLAY ANY NEGATIVE ROLES NOW IS THAT FAIR.
you completely missed my point...


there is a lack of diverse roles in the media...

I am not saying that positive roles don't exist but there are far more negative roles than positive...

we can start with hip hop and most black movies that come out...cnn, msnbc and Fox that have a way of telling a news story when it comes to blacks and whites..


The problem I have with hollywood and the media overall is that there needs to be more diverse roles not less...as easy as they showed jazz breaking into a dance step and saying what up bitches..they can have easily have shown him differently....as easy as they had Anthony ANderson as a clown..he couldve just been a nerd w/ out all the comic nonsense...


but then again..you probably love Rush Hour movies..which have two characters making fun of their own race....

and as much as you say black shown in a positive light..look at the roles many black actors take..look at the dialogue..in gets rather annoying that I cannot watch a good movie without the buffonery or the thug imagery...its tired...
 
tre2k4 said:
Whats being portrayed fairly to you.
White folks be portrayed as doing more dumb stuff then we do.




Whites are judged by their best stereotype.

Asians are judged by their best stereotype.

Hispanics are judged by their best stereotype.

Blacks are judged by their worst stereotype.




Until we have ONE RULE FOR EVERYBODY, blacks are going to have a problem.........


:smh:
 
BlackSmurf said:
That is cause whitey does more dumb stuff then we do... but they are still positively sterio typed as - having money and not being criminals.
I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M BLACK, BUT BLACKS AS A RACE AND AS A MAJORITY DOES WAY MORE STUPID SHIT THAN ANY OTHER RACE EVERY NOW AND THEN A WHITE KID SHOTS UP A SCHOOL EVERY WEEKEND A NIGGA SHOTS UP THE CLUB. WHEN WHITES DO SOME STUPID SHIT WHITE ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND FIGHT FOR THEM. BLACKS SIT AROUND AND LAUGH AND ARGUE WHY ANOTHER BLACK SHOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL CAUSE THEY HAVENT BEEN BLACK IN A LONG TIME (BLACK IS A COLOR, NOT HOW YO ACT.) OR OUR BLACK LEADER SIT AND CHASTISE US FOR THE THINGS WE DO INSTEAD OF RALLING THE TROOPS. SO HOW CAN YOU BE MAD AT ANY WHITE PERSON WHO PORTRAYS US LIKE THIS WHEN WE AS BLACK PEOPLE PORTRAY US THE SAME WAY. MOST WHITES DONT EVEN KNOW A BLACK PERSON, THEY GET THEIR ASSUMTIONS FROM BET AND BILL COSBY AND THE LIKES. AND I ALSO MUST SAY THAT THE WAY THEY PORTRAY BLACKS SOMETIMES AINT TO FAR OFF.
 
Josh said:
you completely missed my point...


there is a lack of diverse roles in the media...

I am not saying that positive roles don't exist but there are far more negative roles than positive...

we can start with hip hop and most black movies that come out...cnn, msnbc and Fox that have a way of telling a news story when it comes to blacks and whites..


The problem I have with hollywood and the media overall is that there needs to be more diverse roles not less...as easy as they showed jazz breaking into a dance step and saying what up bitches..they can have easily have shown him differently....as easy as they had Anthony ANderson as a clown..he couldve just been a nerd w/ out all the comic nonsense...


but then again..you probably love Rush Hour movies..which have two characters making fun of their own race....

and as much as you say black shown in a positive light..look at the roles many black actors take..look at the dialogue..in gets rather annoying that I cannot watch a good movie without the buffonery or the thug imagery...its tired...
1. IT SOMETIMES SEEMS THAT THEIR ARE MORE NAGATIVE BLACKS THAN POSITIVE IN REAL LIFE.

2. I AGREE THE NEWS IS RACIST AS HELL.

3. JAZZ COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN A WHITE BOY WHO BREAKDANCES AND SAID WHAT UP BITCHES. (HOW DO YOU TELL A ROBOTS COLOR. :confused: ) :lol: AND IF YOU SAY BECAUSE HE SOUNDED BLACK YOUR RACIST FOR EVEN SAYING SOME SHIT LIKE THAT HOW DO BLACKS SOUND.

4.ANTHONY ANDERSON IS A COMEDIAN, WHATS A COMEDIAN WITHOUT COMIS NONSENCE. :confused: THEN JAMES EARL JONES SHOULD HAVE PLAYED HIS PART. :rolleyes:

5. HELL YEAH I LOVE RUSH HOUR MOVIES. (NUFF SAID)

6. MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP BUYING MASTER P MOVIES AND HOOD FLICKS BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS. BLACKS DO PLAY MORE THAN JUST THUGS.
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M BLACK, BUT BLACKS AS A RACE AND AS A MAJORITY DOES WAY MORE STUPID SHIT THAN ANY OTHER RACE EVERY NOW AND THEN A WHITE KID SHOTS UP A SCHOOL EVERY WEEKEND A NIGGA SHOTS UP THE CLUB. WHEN WHITES DO SOME STUPID SHIT WHITE ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND FIGHT FOR THEM. BLACKS SIT AROUND AND LAUGH AND ARGUE WHY ANOTHER BLACK SHOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL CAUSE THEY HAVENT BEEN BLACK IN A LONG TIME (BLACK IS A COLOR, NOT HOW YO ACT.) OR OUR BLACK LEADER SIT AND CHASTISE US FOR THE THINGS WE DO INSTEAD OF RALLING THE TROOPS. SO HOW CAN YOU BE MAD AT ANY WHITE PERSON WHO PORTRAYS US LIKE THIS WHEN WE AS BLACK PEOPLE PORTRAY US THE SAME WAY. MOST WHITES DONT EVEN KNOW A BLACK PERSON, THEY GET THEIR ASSUMTIONS FROM BET AND BILL COSBY AND THE LIKES. AND I ALSO MUST SAY THAT THE WAY THEY PORTRAY BLACKS SOMETIMES AINT TO FAR OFF.
wow

Speechless
 
peterking said:
Transformers OST
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http://rapidshare.com/files/40973655/Transformers.rar

www.CyprusWarez.com

good lookin on the soundtrack.

fuck these "ninjas" cryin wolf all the damn time.
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Just saw it again today and Sam and his pop, was straight dissin his moms,. I guess it's only bad when black folks do it. :lol: :lol: :lol: Simps.
 
kayanation said:
Whites are judged by their best stereotype.

Asians are judged by their best stereotype.

Hispanics are judged by their best stereotype.

Blacks are judged by their worst stereotype.




Until we have ONE RULE FOR EVERYBODY, blacks are going to have a problem.........


:smh:
ALL I CAN SAY TO THIS IS ARE THERE ANY GOOD STEROTYPES, I THOUGHT A STEREOTYPE WAS TO POINT OUT THE NEGATIVE ABOUT A RACE. AND I ALSO MUST SAY ASIANS AND HISPANICS GET CLOWNED THE MOST. WAY MORE THAN BLACKS.
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
1. IT SOMETIMES SEEMS THAT THEIR ARE MORE NAGATIVE BLACKS THAN POSITIVE IN REAL LIFE.

2. I AGREE THE NEWS IS RACIST AS HELL.

3. JAZZ COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN A WHITE BOY WHO BREAKDANCES AND SAID WHAT UP BITCHES. (HOW DO YOU TELL A ROBOTS COLOR. :confused: ) :lol: AND IF YOU SAY BECAUSE HE SOUNDED BLACK YOUR RACIST FOR EVEN SAYING SOME SHIT LIKE THAT HOW DO BLACKS SOUND.

4.ANTHONY ANDERSON IS A COMEDIAN, WHATS A COMEDIAN WITHOUT COMIS NONSENCE. :confused: THEN JAMES EARL JONES SHOULD HAVE PLAYED HIS PART. :rolleyes:

5. HELL YEAH I LOVE RUSH HOUR MOVIES. (NUFF SAID)

6. MAYBE YOU SHOULD STOP BUYING MASTER P MOVIES AND HOOD FLICKS BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS. BLACKS DO PLAY MORE THAN JUST THUGS.

It seems you may need to get out more...there are way more positive black folks then negative...


actually I never watched Master P movies and I don't support hood movies..just putting this otu there... my favorite black movie is A soldiers story. Excellent cast, excellent script and great acting.


And before I get into a huge debate about transformers and stereotypes.

Let me clear something up...


I don't really care if there are roles that show blacks in a negative light. The problem I have is that many roles show that one angle. Most black movies or show are either comedy or some thug role. Its quite limited..now there are movies I watched that are black and loved..Such as Sankofa and Lumumba(although it was African, they are apart of the diaspora and both were great films)

Anthony anderson is an actor, yes he also is a comedian but he's an actor that plays many roles...

As far as rush hour, never liked it..

but like I said, Transformers and all these roles with blacks in them, so be it my problem is the lack of diverse roles..not because they are movies and roles like soul plane, rush hour or Fridays out there, its because there are a lack of more Soldier stories, love jones, the color purple...

thats all...

if folks like transformers...its cool.. if folks enjoyed Anthony anderson..great...I have no problem with that...

but my point was and still is the lack of diverse roles in todays media...
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M BLACK, BUT BLACKS AS A RACE AND AS A MAJORITY DOES WAY MORE STUPID SHIT THAN ANY OTHER RACE EVERY NOW AND THEN A WHITE KID SHOTS UP A SCHOOL EVERY WEEKEND A NIGGA SHOTS UP THE CLUB. WHEN WHITES DO SOME STUPID SHIT WHITE ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND FIGHT FOR THEM. BLACKS SIT AROUND AND LAUGH AND ARGUE WHY ANOTHER BLACK SHOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL CAUSE THEY HAVENT BEEN BLACK IN A LONG TIME (BLACK IS A COLOR, NOT HOW YO ACT.) OR OUR BLACK LEADER SIT AND CHASTISE US FOR THE THINGS WE DO INSTEAD OF RALLING THE TROOPS. SO HOW CAN YOU BE MAD AT ANY WHITE PERSON WHO PORTRAYS US LIKE THIS WHEN WE AS BLACK PEOPLE PORTRAY US THE SAME WAY. MOST WHITES DONT EVEN KNOW A BLACK PERSON, THEY GET THEIR ASSUMTIONS FROM BET AND BILL COSBY AND THE LIKES. AND I ALSO MUST SAY THAT THE WAY THEY PORTRAY BLACKS SOMETIMES AINT TO FAR OFF.



Think you need to read this thread.............


http://198.65.131.81/board/showthread.php?t=179958
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
ALL I CAN SAY TO THIS IS ARE THERE ANY GOOD STEROTYPES, I THOUGHT A STEREOTYPE WAS TO POINT OUT THE NEGATIVE ABOUT A RACE. AND I ALSO MUST SAY ASIANS AND HISPANICS GET CLOWNED THE MOST. WAY MORE THAN BLACKS.



Keep talking you ignorance is showing..............



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The white American myth of innocence, decency, morality, and the cowboys who never fired on an "injun" unless it was self-defense, have all been laid bare for those willing to see. That people of color always knew the myths to be bullshit, while the dominant majority refused to listen and look at themselves only makes the situation more tragic. But not a damn bit more shocking. Of course, that the mass killers in the schoolyards have all been white as of late has gone without mention in the media. Oh sure, we hear about the similarities between the Columbine High tragedy and the others--well, at least some of the similarities: all the shooters were boys; all the shooters used guns; all the shooters talked openly about violence; all the shooters played violent video games; all the shooters ate Cheerios at some point in the last ten years--you get the picture. In other words, the racial similarities between all these gun-lovin', trash-talking, dark-clothes wearing, `Doom'-playin,' Cheerios-eatin,' Marilyn Manson-listenin' bundles of testosterone are irrelevant. While we can rest assured these kids would have been "raced" had they come from black "ghetto matriarchs" in the `hood, it seems as though no one can see the most obvious common characteristic among them: namely, their white skin. This, I guess, is what folks mean when they say they're color-blind: they can see color all right, it's white they have a problem with.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Typical, typical, typical. White folks go off, killing wholesale like there's a frickin' closeout on semi-automatic ammunition, and we get fifty "explanations" from the so-called experts who are called in by the media to make sense of it all.
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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]People of color do something horrific or commit random acts of retail violence and the whole world lines up to blame one of three things: their black families (particularly their black single mommas); their black DNA (as in the rantings of The Bell Curve); or their "defective" black culture and inverted value system. Whatever the case, their blackness never, and I mean never, gets overlooked.[/font]

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Gang violence in the cities heats up and we've got U.S. News and World Report running a cover story entitled: "A Shocking Look at Blacks and Crime," and every nighttime news program running stories asking "what's wrong with the black family (as if there's only one); what's wrong with these people in the "ghetto underclass."
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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]But when Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahmer go out and do their thing, no one thinks to ask what it is about white folks that makes them cut babies out of their mothers' wombs, torture young men and bury them under the house, kill two dozen or more women for the hell of it, or consume human flesh. White deviants are afforded the privilege of individualization--"that's just crazy Charlie, ignore him, he's a potted plant"--while those of color get to represent the whole community and become exhibit A in David Duke and Charles Murray's eugenic fantasy. You say 90 percent of modern serial killers have been white? Well, isn't that puzzling. Next question.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]You'll never even hear the term "white crime" uttered in polite conversation. White collar crime, maybe; but to suggest that the collar might not be the only thing lacking color, would be dogma non grata in mainstream discussion. "White-on-white violence?" What the hell is that? Never heard of it. Even in the wake of these massacres. Even as white folks are killing other white folks in Kosovo (and still other white folks are bombing them to get them to stop).[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The media and politicians have done such a fine job making sure everyone knows who to fear (namely the dark and poor) that we forget how whites are disproportionately likely to engage in all kinds of destructive behavior, from drunk driving, to drug use as teenagers, to animal mutilation, to fratricide, to cutting corners on occupational safety standards and pollution control, which then result in the deaths of twice as many people as are murdered each year.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]We forget that when it comes to violent crime, whites are four times more likely to be victimized by another white person than by a person of color, and that only sixteen-thousandths of 1 percent of the white community will be killed by a black person in a given year.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]It all leads one to wonder: how many of the white families with kids at Columbine would have moved away, or at least taken their kids out of the school if, say, 50 or 100 black families had moved in and enrolled their children there? If other suburban communities and other white folks are any indication, the answer is quite a few. Study after study for 25 years has found that whites begin to leave an area and disenroll their kids from the local schools when the community becomes as little as 8 percent black. As the numbers get higher, the slow trickle becomes a mass exodus. Why? Well, to get away from crime, of course. I'm pretty sure this is the textbook definition of irony.[/font]

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Even more hilarious is the tendency to act as if young white people were ever innocent, upstanding citizens compared to the rest of the country. Even as far back as 1966, a national survey of 15 to 17 -year-old whites found that "virtually all" had committed numerous criminal offenses, from breaking and entering, to minor property destruction, to armed robbery.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I've decided that's why all those shows like "Leave it To Beaver," "Father Knows Best," and "The Brady Bunch" were so popular: not because many people actually lived like that, but because they didn't, and could escape into this unreal fantasy life via the television. After all, why watch a program that looks just like your daily routine? That would be boring. So just as with westerns that allowed (mostly white) kids to fantasize about a more exciting life, these wholesome family programs allowed (and still allow in syndication) mostly white viewers to ignore the dysfunction which is really all around them, and always has been, long before the first black kid set foot in their schools, and long before the "Godless" humanists bounced prayer from homeroom.[/font]

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Unfortunately, I have no doubt this kind of thing will happen again. In fact, had it not been for a few folks informing on plots they knew about, we would already have added a Milwaukee suburb to the list of white teen angst killing fields, and a week after Columbine would have gotten a look at what kind of explosives Caucasians in Texas are capable of putting together. And still, according to my morning paper, less than half of all teens and their parents (mostly white if modern survey techniques are any guide) think their schools are at risk for this kind of violence.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Yeah, well, just keep telling yourself that. Keep watching "COPS" and "Real Stories of the Highway Patrol," and "America's Most Wanted," where most of the bad guys fit the more comfortable profile to which we've grown accustomed. I can hear the dialogue now: "Why look at how menacing the large Negro is honey! My, oh, my, we sure are glad we moved out here to Pleasantville. Me, my lovely wife, and our son. Speaking of whom, honey, where is Waldo anyway? I don't think I've seen him all week. Is he on that computer of his again? That scamp. Such a hard worker. Oh, and honey, what was that sawing sound coming from the garage last night?"[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tim Wise is the Director of the newly formed Association for White Anti-Racist Education (AWARE), in Nashville, Tennessee.
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Link:
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/wise.htm
 
blackIpod said:
ARE SOME MEMBERS OF THE BLACK SUPER RACE NOW UNHAPPY with another movie?



"The Black Super Race" I'ma hold on to that one.

On a porn board discussing race relations in regards to a movie that had GIANT ROBOTS FIGHTING IN THE STREETS!

WTF?!

:cool:
 
BlackSmurf said:
That is cause whitey does more dumb stuff then we do... but they are still positively sterio typed as - having money and not being criminals.


umm she and her dad were crooks... :lol: :lol: :lol:
You see spike face when he found out?
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kayanation said:
Keep talking you ignorance is showing..............



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The white American myth of innocence, decency, morality, and the cowboys who never fired on an "injun" unless it was self-defense, have all been laid bare for those willing to see. That people of color always knew the myths to be bullshit, while the dominant majority refused to listen and look at themselves only makes the situation more tragic. But not a damn bit more shocking. Of course, that the mass killers in the schoolyards have all been white as of late has gone without mention in the media. Oh sure, we hear about the similarities between the Columbine High tragedy and the others--well, at least some of the similarities: all the shooters were boys; all the shooters used guns; all the shooters talked openly about violence; all the shooters played violent video games; all the shooters ate Cheerios at some point in the last ten years--you get the picture. In other words, the racial similarities between all these gun-lovin', trash-talking, dark-clothes wearing, `Doom'-playin,' Cheerios-eatin,' Marilyn Manson-listenin' bundles of testosterone are irrelevant. While we can rest assured these kids would have been "raced" had they come from black "ghetto matriarchs" in the `hood, it seems as though no one can see the most obvious common characteristic among them: namely, their white skin. This, I guess, is what folks mean when they say they're color-blind: they can see color all right, it's white they have a problem with.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Typical, typical, typical. White folks go off, killing wholesale like there's a frickin' closeout on semi-automatic ammunition, and we get fifty "explanations" from the so-called experts who are called in by the media to make sense of it all.
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]People of color do something horrific or commit random acts of retail violence and the whole world lines up to blame one of three things: their black families (particularly their black single mommas); their black DNA (as in the rantings of The Bell Curve); or their "defective" black culture and inverted value system. Whatever the case, their blackness never, and I mean never, gets overlooked.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Gang violence in the cities heats up and we've got U.S. News and World Report running a cover story entitled: "A Shocking Look at Blacks and Crime," and every nighttime news program running stories asking "what's wrong with the black family (as if there's only one); what's wrong with these people in the "ghetto underclass."
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]But when Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahmer go out and do their thing, no one thinks to ask what it is about white folks that makes them cut babies out of their mothers' wombs, torture young men and bury them under the house, kill two dozen or more women for the hell of it, or consume human flesh. White deviants are afforded the privilege of individualization--"that's just crazy Charlie, ignore him, he's a potted plant"--while those of color get to represent the whole community and become exhibit A in David Duke and Charles Murray's eugenic fantasy. You say 90 percent of modern serial killers have been white? Well, isn't that puzzling. Next question.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]You'll never even hear the term "white crime" uttered in polite conversation. White collar crime, maybe; but to suggest that the collar might not be the only thing lacking color, would be dogma non grata in mainstream discussion. "White-on-white violence?" What the hell is that? Never heard of it. Even in the wake of these massacres. Even as white folks are killing other white folks in Kosovo (and still other white folks are bombing them to get them to stop).[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The media and politicians have done such a fine job making sure everyone knows who to fear (namely the dark and poor) that we forget how whites are disproportionately likely to engage in all kinds of destructive behavior, from drunk driving, to drug use as teenagers, to animal mutilation, to fratricide, to cutting corners on occupational safety standards and pollution control, which then result in the deaths of twice as many people as are murdered each year.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]We forget that when it comes to violent crime, whites are four times more likely to be victimized by another white person than by a person of color, and that only sixteen-thousandths of 1 percent of the white community will be killed by a black person in a given year.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]It all leads one to wonder: how many of the white families with kids at Columbine would have moved away, or at least taken their kids out of the school if, say, 50 or 100 black families had moved in and enrolled their children there? If other suburban communities and other white folks are any indication, the answer is quite a few. Study after study for 25 years has found that whites begin to leave an area and disenroll their kids from the local schools when the community becomes as little as 8 percent black. As the numbers get higher, the slow trickle becomes a mass exodus. Why? Well, to get away from crime, of course. I'm pretty sure this is the textbook definition of irony.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Even more hilarious is the tendency to act as if young white people were ever innocent, upstanding citizens compared to the rest of the country. Even as far back as 1966, a national survey of 15 to 17 -year-old whites found that "virtually all" had committed numerous criminal offenses, from breaking and entering, to minor property destruction, to armed robbery.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I've decided that's why all those shows like "Leave it To Beaver," "Father Knows Best," and "The Brady Bunch" were so popular: not because many people actually lived like that, but because they didn't, and could escape into this unreal fantasy life via the television. After all, why watch a program that looks just like your daily routine? That would be boring. So just as with westerns that allowed (mostly white) kids to fantasize about a more exciting life, these wholesome family programs allowed (and still allow in syndication) mostly white viewers to ignore the dysfunction which is really all around them, and always has been, long before the first black kid set foot in their schools, and long before the "Godless" humanists bounced prayer from homeroom.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]
[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Unfortunately, I have no doubt this kind of thing will happen again. In fact, had it not been for a few folks informing on plots they knew about, we would already have added a Milwaukee suburb to the list of white teen angst killing fields, and a week after Columbine would have gotten a look at what kind of explosives Caucasians in Texas are capable of putting together. And still, according to my morning paper, less than half of all teens and their parents (mostly white if modern survey techniques are any guide) think their schools are at risk for this kind of violence.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Yeah, well, just keep telling yourself that. Keep watching "COPS" and "Real Stories of the Highway Patrol," and "America's Most Wanted," where most of the bad guys fit the more comfortable profile to which we've grown accustomed. I can hear the dialogue now: "Why look at how menacing the large Negro is honey! My, oh, my, we sure are glad we moved out here to Pleasantville. Me, my lovely wife, and our son. Speaking of whom, honey, where is Waldo anyway? I don't think I've seen him all week. Is he on that computer of his again? That scamp. Such a hard worker. Oh, and honey, what was that sawing sound coming from the garage last night?"[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tim Wise is the Director of the newly formed Association for White Anti-Racist Education (AWARE), in Nashville, Tennessee.
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Link:
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/wise.htm

FIRST LET ME SAY BECAUSE WE DONT AGREE DOESNT MAKE ME IGNORANT.

SECOND THAT WAS A LOT OF SHIT TO READ SO I DIDNT BUT I DID NOTICE THE PART ABOUT THE GANGS AND SRIAL KILLERS.
YOU DO REALIZE THAT THEIR ARE WAY MORE BLACK GANG MEMBERS THAN WHIT SERIAL KILLERS. AND I HOPE YOU ALSO REALIZE THAT THEIR OR MORE VICTIMS OF GANG VIOLENCE THAN VICTIMS OF SERIAL KILLERS. SO IF YOU DONT SEE GANG VIOLENCE AS MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN SERIAL KILLERS YOU MIGHT HAVE THE PROBLEM.
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
FIRST LET ME SAY BECAUSE WE DONT AGREE DOESNT MAKE ME IGNORANT.

SECOND THAT WAS A LOT OF SHIT TO READ SO I DIDNT BUT I DID NOTICE THE PART ABOUT THE GANGS AND SRIAL KILLERS.
YOU DO REALIZE THAT THEIR ARE WAY MORE BLACK GANG MEMBERS THAN WHIT SERIAL KILLERS. AND I HOPE YOU ALSO REALIZE THAT THEIR OR MORE VICTIMS OF GANG VIOLENCE THAN VICTIMS OF SERIAL KILLERS. SO IF YOU DONT SEE GANG VIOLENCE AS MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN SERIAL KILLERS YOU MIGHT HAVE THE PROBLEM.



You didn't read my post but you expect me to read yours????




Well fuck you.
 
Josh said:
It seems you may need to get out more...there are way more positive black folks then negative...


actually I never watched Master P movies and I don't support hood movies..just putting this otu there... my favorite black movie is A soldiers story. Excellent cast, excellent script and great acting.


And before I get into a huge debate about transformers and stereotypes.

Let me clear something up...


I don't really care if there are roles that show blacks in a negative light. The problem I have is that many roles show that one angle. Most black movies or show are either comedy or some thug role. Its quite limited..now there are movies I watched that are black and loved..Such as Sankofa and Lumumba(although it was African, they are apart of the diaspora and both were great films)

Anthony anderson is an actor, yes he also is a comedian but he's an actor that plays many roles...

As far as rush hour, never liked it..

but like I said, Transformers and all these roles with blacks in them, so be it my problem is the lack of diverse roles..not because they are movies and roles like soul plane, rush hour or Fridays out there, its because there are a lack of more Soldier stories, love jones, the color purple...

thats all...

if folks like transformers...its cool.. if folks enjoyed Anthony anderson..great...I have no problem with that...

but my point was and still is the lack of diverse roles in todays media...
I GET OUT JUST FINE. THANK YOU

AND I MIGHT HAVE PHRASED IT WRONG WITH POSITIVE VS. NEGATIVE I SHOULD HAVE SAID SUCCESSFUL VS. NONSUCCESSFUL. SCHOOL DROP OUTS. PREGNANT TEEN MOTHERS, AND YOUNG BROTHERS IN JAIL, AND UNEMPLOYMENT BY FAR OUTWEIGHT THOSE WHO HAVE MADE IT. AND FOR EVERFRIDAY SOUL PLANE AND RUSH HOUR YOU NAMED YOU ALSO NAMED A COLOR PURPLE ,SOILDER STORY, LOVE JONES. SO WHATS YOUR POINT HERE.
THE PROBLEM ISNT THE FEW BLACK ROLES VS. THE FEW BLACK MOVIES FOR EVER AND I MEAN EVER BLACK COMEDY THERE IS A BLACK DRAMA OR LOVE STORY.
 
kayanation said:

You didn't read my post but you expect me to read yours????




Well fuck you.
IT WASNT THAT SERIOUS I DIDNT READ THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE IT WAS LIKE 13 PARGRAPHS MINE WAS LIKE LESS THAN ONE IM ON THE INTERNET PLAYA I READ BOOKS ON MY READ BOOK TIME IM HERE TO TALK A LITTLE SHIT.
AND THE FACT THAT YOU COULDNT FIND ANYTHING MORE INTELLIGENT TO SAY SHOWS YOU LEVEL OF IGNORENCE. :lol:
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M BLACK, BUT BLACKS AS A RACE AND AS A MAJORITY DOES WAY MORE STUPID SHIT THAN ANY OTHER RACE EVERY NOW AND THEN A WHITE KID SHOTS UP A SCHOOL EVERY WEEKEND A NIGGA SHOTS UP THE CLUB. WHEN WHITES DO SOME STUPID SHIT WHITE ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND FIGHT FOR THEM. BLACKS SIT AROUND AND LAUGH AND ARGUE WHY ANOTHER BLACK SHOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL CAUSE THEY HAVENT BEEN BLACK IN A LONG TIME (BLACK IS A COLOR, NOT HOW YO ACT.) OR OUR BLACK LEADER SIT AND CHASTISE US FOR THE THINGS WE DO INSTEAD OF RALLING THE TROOPS. SO HOW CAN YOU BE MAD AT ANY WHITE PERSON WHO PORTRAYS US LIKE THIS WHEN WE AS BLACK PEOPLE PORTRAY US THE SAME WAY. MOST WHITES DONT EVEN KNOW A BLACK PERSON, THEY GET THEIR ASSUMTIONS FROM BET AND BILL COSBY AND THE LIKES. AND I ALSO MUST SAY THAT THE WAY THEY PORTRAY BLACKS SOMETIMES AINT TO FAR OFF.

Sounds like life on america is beating you into submission so now you believe that madness you just upchucked. You seem to forget or ignore that one of the worst parts about being a "minority " is how the ruling group will paint you in a bad light then your own people begin to believe it too. That is the case with you.
 
kayanation said:
Keep talking you ignorance is showing..............



[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The white American myth of innocence, decency, morality, and the cowboys who never fired on an "injun" unless it was self-defense, have all been laid bare for those willing to see. That people of color always knew the myths to be bullshit, while the dominant majority refused to listen and look at themselves only makes the situation more tragic. But not a damn bit more shocking. Of course, that the mass killers in the schoolyards have all been white as of late has gone without mention in the media. Oh sure, we hear about the similarities between the Columbine High tragedy and the others--well, at least some of the similarities: all the shooters were boys; all the shooters used guns; all the shooters talked openly about violence; all the shooters played violent video games; all the shooters ate Cheerios at some point in the last ten years--you get the picture. In other words, the racial similarities between all these gun-lovin', trash-talking, dark-clothes wearing, `Doom'-playin,' Cheerios-eatin,' Marilyn Manson-listenin' bundles of testosterone are irrelevant. While we can rest assured these kids would have been "raced" had they come from black "ghetto matriarchs" in the `hood, it seems as though no one can see the most obvious common characteristic among them: namely, their white skin. This, I guess, is what folks mean when they say they're color-blind: they can see color all right, it's white they have a problem with.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Typical, typical, typical. White folks go off, killing wholesale like there's a frickin' closeout on semi-automatic ammunition, and we get fifty "explanations" from the so-called experts who are called in by the media to make sense of it all.
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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]People of color do something horrific or commit random acts of retail violence and the whole world lines up to blame one of three things: their black families (particularly their black single mommas); their black DNA (as in the rantings of The Bell Curve); or their "defective" black culture and inverted value system. Whatever the case, their blackness never, and I mean never, gets overlooked.[/font]

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Gang violence in the cities heats up and we've got U.S. News and World Report running a cover story entitled: "A Shocking Look at Blacks and Crime," and every nighttime news program running stories asking "what's wrong with the black family (as if there's only one); what's wrong with these people in the "ghetto underclass."
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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]But when Charles Manson, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahmer go out and do their thing, no one thinks to ask what it is about white folks that makes them cut babies out of their mothers' wombs, torture young men and bury them under the house, kill two dozen or more women for the hell of it, or consume human flesh. White deviants are afforded the privilege of individualization--"that's just crazy Charlie, ignore him, he's a potted plant"--while those of color get to represent the whole community and become exhibit A in David Duke and Charles Murray's eugenic fantasy. You say 90 percent of modern serial killers have been white? Well, isn't that puzzling. Next question.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]You'll never even hear the term "white crime" uttered in polite conversation. White collar crime, maybe; but to suggest that the collar might not be the only thing lacking color, would be dogma non grata in mainstream discussion. "White-on-white violence?" What the hell is that? Never heard of it. Even in the wake of these massacres. Even as white folks are killing other white folks in Kosovo (and still other white folks are bombing them to get them to stop).[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]The media and politicians have done such a fine job making sure everyone knows who to fear (namely the dark and poor) that we forget how whites are disproportionately likely to engage in all kinds of destructive behavior, from drunk driving, to drug use as teenagers, to animal mutilation, to fratricide, to cutting corners on occupational safety standards and pollution control, which then result in the deaths of twice as many people as are murdered each year.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]We forget that when it comes to violent crime, whites are four times more likely to be victimized by another white person than by a person of color, and that only sixteen-thousandths of 1 percent of the white community will be killed by a black person in a given year.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]It all leads one to wonder: how many of the white families with kids at Columbine would have moved away, or at least taken their kids out of the school if, say, 50 or 100 black families had moved in and enrolled their children there? If other suburban communities and other white folks are any indication, the answer is quite a few. Study after study for 25 years has found that whites begin to leave an area and disenroll their kids from the local schools when the community becomes as little as 8 percent black. As the numbers get higher, the slow trickle becomes a mass exodus. Why? Well, to get away from crime, of course. I'm pretty sure this is the textbook definition of irony.[/font]

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Even more hilarious is the tendency to act as if young white people were ever innocent, upstanding citizens compared to the rest of the country. Even as far back as 1966, a national survey of 15 to 17 -year-old whites found that "virtually all" had committed numerous criminal offenses, from breaking and entering, to minor property destruction, to armed robbery.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I've decided that's why all those shows like "Leave it To Beaver," "Father Knows Best," and "The Brady Bunch" were so popular: not because many people actually lived like that, but because they didn't, and could escape into this unreal fantasy life via the television. After all, why watch a program that looks just like your daily routine? That would be boring. So just as with westerns that allowed (mostly white) kids to fantasize about a more exciting life, these wholesome family programs allowed (and still allow in syndication) mostly white viewers to ignore the dysfunction which is really all around them, and always has been, long before the first black kid set foot in their schools, and long before the "Godless" humanists bounced prayer from homeroom.[/font]

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Unfortunately, I have no doubt this kind of thing will happen again. In fact, had it not been for a few folks informing on plots they knew about, we would already have added a Milwaukee suburb to the list of white teen angst killing fields, and a week after Columbine would have gotten a look at what kind of explosives Caucasians in Texas are capable of putting together. And still, according to my morning paper, less than half of all teens and their parents (mostly white if modern survey techniques are any guide) think their schools are at risk for this kind of violence.[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Yeah, well, just keep telling yourself that. Keep watching "COPS" and "Real Stories of the Highway Patrol," and "America's Most Wanted," where most of the bad guys fit the more comfortable profile to which we've grown accustomed. I can hear the dialogue now: "Why look at how menacing the large Negro is honey! My, oh, my, we sure are glad we moved out here to Pleasantville. Me, my lovely wife, and our son. Speaking of whom, honey, where is Waldo anyway? I don't think I've seen him all week. Is he on that computer of his again? That scamp. Such a hard worker. Oh, and honey, what was that sawing sound coming from the garage last night?"[/font]

[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Tim Wise is the Director of the newly formed Association for White Anti-Racist Education (AWARE), in Nashville, Tennessee.
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Link:
http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/wise.htm
O.K. I READ THIS SOME THINGS I CAN AGREE WITH SOME THINGS I CANT.
THINGS DONT DONT HAPPEN IN BLACK HOUSE HOLDS NOT ENOUGHT TIME WITH ANY DOOR CLOSED TO BUILD A BOMB :lol: BELIEVE ME BLACK KIDS SHOW OFF THEIR GUNS A WHOLE LOT WHERE IM FROM WHICH HAPPENS TO BE MILWAUKEE, BUT BLACK KIDS DONT SIT AROUND HOW TO KILL THE WHOLE SCHOOL THEY GO SHOT THE ONE PERSON THEY WANT TO KILL( WHICH PROBALLY WONT HAPPEN AT SCHOOL BEING ALOT OF HTEN DONT GO TO SCHOOL IT WILL HAPPEN ON A CORNER SOMEWHERE.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHio7iJog0 THIS IS REAL NOT MADE UP. WHEN DO YOU EVER SEE WHITE PEOPLE ACT THIS UNRULY.
NOW DONT GET ME WRONG CRACKAS ARE NOT ANGELS THEY ARE DEVILS BUT THEY ARE WEAK WHICH CAUSE THEM TO PLOT AND PLAN AND KILL SO MANY. THE BLACK MAN IS MORE SRAIGHT FORWARD AND FOCUSED MOST OF THE TIME THEY KILL WHO THEY WANT NO TIME FOR PLANNING. AND REAL STORIES OF THE HIGHWAY PATROL SHOWS PLENTY CRAZY WHITE PEOPLE. :lol:
 
BlackSmurf said:
Sounds like life on america is beating you into submission so now you believe that madness you just upchucked. You seem to forget or ignore that one of the worst parts about being a "minority " is how the ruling group will paint you in a bad light then your own people begin to believe it too. That is the case with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHio7iJog0
DIDNT MAKE THIS UP AND THIS IS WHAT I SEE EVERYDAY IN MILWAUKEE WI OF ALL PLACES.
 
bernie mack and that other fat black non-acting idiot always will proudly play the role of dancing.. screaming over nothing.... housenigga coons.
 
Now you all know Jazz was the "black" Transformer just like Panthero was the "black" ThunderCat! But since Jazz went out like a punk don't nobody wanna claim him.
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gtg305h said:
Read thsi, especially the comments section, speaks to everything you brothas are going back and forth about.

http://www.brilliantbrown.com/funny/prime-time/


AJ
possibly the same folks from here writing those comments :lol: Im joking


but one comment was right on point about the movie...it was Shia Lebouf featuring the transformers...that was soo accurate...the movie was about him...A boy and his car...transformers were never about no damn humans..it was about robots....
 
Man, I ain't bouts ta get pissed over this shit. Bernie Mac's character was a hustler. A used car salesman stereotype! Right off the bat they establish that he's shady from how he treats his workers. Y'all know damn well that wasn't his grandmamma; he was trying to hustle up on a sale and just used that old lady as a front. She obviously didn't like him so she threw up a finger sign. His disresepct was his response.
Tyrese held it down. Nobody talked about how he was runnin' shit despite the odds - him being up against some giant robots. Tell me if you saw a real Transformer that you wouldn't flip out? GTFOH! That shit would make you nervous as hell! I guess I'm the only one that actually LIKED Jazz. When I walk in a room with my friends or drop by the homies' houses, I might walk in and say "What's up bitches" in a joking way. My boys do the same shit because we are cool with each other and not some uptight hypersensitive assholes that can't take a joke. Jazz was amongst his "bots" so he greeted accordingly. That mofo had the SMOOTHEST MOVES IN THE MOVIE to me. I bet the CG guys worked harder on Jazz's movements than any of the other Autobots. Fuck what y'all talkin' bout, JAZZ WAS SMOOTH.
Now i hated Anthony Anderson's character but it stood in contrast to Tyrese, so I wrote him off as the comic relief. He really just did his normal typecast character. Its nothing new. Fuck if he liked the Austrailian broad - DID YOU SEE HER? That chick was fine. This movie played slightly off stereotypes but they covered a lot of ground. They had Indian "outsourced worker" stereotypes, Mexican stereotypes, white stereotypes like the clueless parents as well. I get tired of us being portrayed in a poor light as well but there were several different types of black folk in this flick. I'm lettin' this one ride. Fuck it. There has been and will be much worse to worry about.
There's plenty of real shit to get pissed about
http://www.wreg.com/Global/story.asp?S=6707816
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'M BLACK, BUT BLACKS AS A RACE AND AS A MAJORITY DOES WAY MORE STUPID SHIT THAN ANY OTHER RACE EVERY NOW AND THEN A WHITE KID SHOTS UP A SCHOOL EVERY WEEKEND A NIGGA SHOTS UP THE CLUB. WHEN WHITES DO SOME STUPID SHIT WHITE ARE THERE TO PROTECT AND FIGHT FOR THEM. BLACKS SIT AROUND AND LAUGH AND ARGUE WHY ANOTHER BLACK SHOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL CAUSE THEY HAVENT BEEN BLACK IN A LONG TIME (BLACK IS A COLOR, NOT HOW YO ACT.) OR OUR BLACK LEADER SIT AND CHASTISE US FOR THE THINGS WE DO INSTEAD OF RALLING THE TROOPS. SO HOW CAN YOU BE MAD AT ANY WHITE PERSON WHO PORTRAYS US LIKE THIS WHEN WE AS BLACK PEOPLE PORTRAY US THE SAME WAY. MOST WHITES DONT EVEN KNOW A BLACK PERSON, THEY GET THEIR ASSUMTIONS FROM BET AND BILL COSBY AND THE LIKES. AND I ALSO MUST SAY THAT THE WAY THEY PORTRAY BLACKS SOMETIMES AINT TO FAR OFF.
nigga what the fuck is your problem. visit the confirmation thread. because your are using classic justification for racism you coon. im serious i wanna see your confirmation
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
ARE YOU NIGGAS SERIOUS BERNIE MACK OWNED A CAR LOT IN THE MOVIE "OWNED IT" AND HIS GRANDMOTHER GAVE HIM THE FINGER BEFORE HE MUMMBLED UNDER HIS BREATH I MIGHT SAY THAT SHE WAS A BITCH. (ANYONE ON HERE WHO SAYS AT SOME TIME IN YOUR LIFE AS A CHILD YOU DIDNT WISH YOUR PARENTS DEAD FOR SOMETHING = LYING.
SECOND A. ANDERSON WAS A FAT COMPUTER WHIZ WHO LIVED WITH HIS MOTHER AT LIKE THE AGE OF THIRTYSOMETHING. ANYONE WHITE OR BLACK WHO STILL LIVES AT HOME STILL WILL ARGUE WITH THEIR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS. FOR EXAMPLE THE NAME OR THEIR FOOD JOKE. BUT HE STILL WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NEW ABOUT COMPUTER IN THE MOVIE. HOW THE FUCK WAS TYRESE GHETTO ACTING, HE WAS A DAMN SOILDER. :confused: :confused: :confused: CLOWN ASS INSECURE NIGGAS OR WHITE BOYS ACTING LIKE N IGGAS ON THE NET ALWAYS TRYING TO POINT OUT SOME STUPID ASS RACIST SHIT. AND HOW THE FUCHK DOES ANYONE KNOW JUST BY WATCHING THE MOVIE JAZZ IS BLACK WHY COULDNT HE BE A WIGGER WHO TALKED BLACK :confused: :lol: :confused: MAYBE YOUR THE RACIST. BUT ON THE REAL JAZZ IS A FUCKING ROBOT I DONT BELIEVE ROBOTS HAVE A COLOR IDIOTS THE FUCKING ROBOTS SAID THEY LEARNED TO TALK FROM THE WORLD WIDE WEB. MAYBE JAZZ HEARD A 50 CENT SONG OR HEARD SOME OF YOU CLOWNS TALK ON BGOL AND EMULATED YOU. THE POINT IS THE MOVIE WASNT RACIST AND ANYONE WHO REALLY SAW IT AND THINKS IT WAS IN A INSECURE CLOWN. :lol:
jazz in the original cartoon was "black" not a poser. hint the name jazz


i wanna see your confirmation. until then your are a cracker.
 
Im pretty sure there are more white criminals in films than blacks. But yet ppl still would get made like a black man can't commit a crime.
 
BENBRIZZLE said:
ARE YOU NIGGAS SERIOUS BERNIE MACK OWNED A CAR LOT IN THE MOVIE "OWNED IT" AND HIS GRANDMOTHER GAVE HIM THE FINGER BEFORE HE MUMMBLED UNDER HIS BREATH I MIGHT SAY THAT SHE WAS A BITCH. (ANYONE ON HERE WHO SAYS AT SOME TIME IN YOUR LIFE AS A CHILD YOU DIDNT WISH YOUR PARENTS DEAD FOR SOMETHING = LYING.
SECOND A. ANDERSON WAS A FAT COMPUTER WHIZ WHO LIVED WITH HIS MOTHER AT LIKE THE AGE OF THIRTYSOMETHING. ANYONE WHITE OR BLACK WHO STILL LIVES AT HOME STILL WILL ARGUE WITH THEIR PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS. FOR EXAMPLE THE NAME OR THEIR FOOD JOKE. BUT HE STILL WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NEW ABOUT COMPUTER IN THE MOVIE. HOW THE FUCK WAS TYRESE GHETTO ACTING, HE WAS A DAMN SOILDER. :confused: :confused: :confused: CLOWN ASS INSECURE NIGGAS OR WHITE BOYS ACTING LIKE N IGGAS ON THE NET ALWAYS TRYING TO POINT OUT SOME STUPID ASS RACIST SHIT. AND HOW THE FUCHK DOES ANYONE KNOW JUST BY WATCHING THE MOVIE JAZZ IS BLACK WHY COULDNT HE BE A WIGGER WHO TALKED BLACK :confused: :lol: :confused: MAYBE YOUR THE RACIST. BUT ON THE REAL JAZZ IS A FUCKING ROBOT I DONT BELIEVE ROBOTS HAVE A COLOR IDIOTS THE FUCKING ROBOTS SAID THEY LEARNED TO TALK FROM THE WORLD WIDE WEB. MAYBE JAZZ HEARD A 50 CENT SONG OR HEARD SOME OF YOU CLOWNS TALK ON BGOL AND EMULATED YOU. THE POINT IS THE MOVIE WASNT RACIST AND ANYONE WHO REALLY SAW IT AND THINKS IT WAS IN A INSECURE CLOWN. :lol:

You sir, deserve a cosign...
 
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