Lol something tells me you know I ain't a stormfront klansman. And I haven't drawn on any stereotypes, if I questioned your Blackness it's because on the other board your ethnicity came up and I believe you described yourself as something other than Black. If I'm wrong about that I apologize but if I'm not wrong and you are not Black then I have to believe the one making ignorant rants about Black peoples future is you because there is no way you can understand us, our situation or our future.
Tony Brown's Journal- Why Black Middle-Class Youth Are Behind
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Lol something tells me you know I ain't a stormfront klansman. And I haven't drawn on any stereotypes, if I questioned your Blackness it's because on the other board your ethnicity came up and I believe you described yourself as something other than Black. If I'm wrong about that I apologize but if I'm not wrong and you are not Black then I have to believe the one making ignorant rants about Black peoples future is you because there is no way you can understand us, our situation or our future.
Read the other board more thoroughly and research the word sarcasm.
You are an imbecile.
For the record again, I am black and you are stupid.
You haven't drawn on any stereotypes?
stop posting, you suck at it.
Que- please forgive me for saying what I did to you a month or so ago
You are an imbecile.
For the record again, I am black and you are stupid.
You haven't drawn on any stereotypes?
nitwittie said:
stop posting, you suck at it.
Que- please forgive me for saying what I did to you a month or so ago
Seriously Bro,nittie said:
Do you really believe the future of Black America rests on the shoulders of a bunch of fiddy penny entertainers, many of which sell themselves and our community down the moral drain in the name of their own profits ??? Tell me you didn't mean that! Tell me it ain't so!
Is this pop-culture trickle down some new variation of <s>Reaganomics</s> Pimponomics ???
QueEx
Look pop culture is not about entertainment it's the white supremist culture America has export around the world for centuries. The propaganda machine that has Africans descibing themselves as "light and Dark" skinned. It is also the propaganda that has ingrained self hatred into American Blacks as that machine dies and the truth about us emerges things will change drastically for black people.QueEx said:
Look pop culture is not about entertainment it's the white supremist culture America has export around the world for centuries. The propaganda machine that has Africans descibing themselves as "light and Dark" skinned. It is also the propaganda that has ingrained self hatred into American Blacks as the culture darkens and that machine dies the truth about us will emerge and things will change drastically for black people.QueEx said:
Makkonnen said:Read the other board more thoroughly and research the word sarcasm.
You are an imbecile.
For the record again, I am black and you are stupid.
You haven't drawn on any stereotypes?
stop posting, you suck at it.
Que- please forgive me for saying what I did to you a month or so ago
You sound like my little sister when she can't have her way. There is no way a real Black person would pin his future on some fucking numbers put out by whites if we did we would still be picking cotton.
nittie said:
if your parents were smarter and did a better job with you, you wouldnt be so stupid.I pin my future on numbers put out by the white national weather service everyday and I haven't picked cotton a day in my life.
Think about beating yourself to death.
this thread is about school achievement for black students in comparison to whitesnittie said:
either try real hard to say something that is relevant and has some value or stfu cuz the only thing you are doing is proving how fuckin badly your parents and teachers failed you
First of all you are calling a black professor from harvard who has devoted his life toward improving education for black children a racist and a liar with absolutely NO evidence.nittie said:
Secondly if you were to do a little research into black business start-ups, mortality rates, savings and home ownership you'd see that on those health and economic standards we are being left behind as well.
Making arguments with no evidence to back them up that are also clearly false to anyone who reads current events even 10 minutes a day are a tell tale sign of a poor education.
Makkonnen said:
You might not believe this but you bear and uncanny resemblence to my little sister.
First of all you need to stop spinning my words to make yourself look like a man. I said the test were racist and culturally biased I didn't say shit about some Black guy giving the fucking test. unfortunatley though being Black does not give the professor a pass, sadly our history is full of negroes doing the dirty work for their Masters. You prove my point perfectly.
Your bullshit post already point out that Blacks are 1st generation middle class so I don't see how we can be falling behind in a game we just entered. But if you take your own advice and check those standards against what they were a decade ago you will see that the Black Middle class is growing.
Relying on other people's ideas, opinions and hard work to back up your weakass arguements only proves you are incapable of doing it for yourself.
Which wouldn't take into consideration many successful brothers and sisters who:nittie said:
- don't own a business who are still successful beyond your imagination,
- who live fast lives or die in accidents ... because they can afford to,
- who have investments but not bank savings accounts, and
- who prefer to rent instead of worrying with the hassles/responsibility that homeownership brings.
All to say, your measuring criteria are shit.
QueEx
That data you mentioned disproves your argument dumbass.nittie said:
If one does not have an accurate account of what most or all black are doing one cannot get an idea of where the community is headed you fuckin idiot.
That's like saying all black people are stupid because you are, which is very much false.
nittie said:
Are you saying that you have to teach mathematics differently to black and white students from the same neighborhoods, same schools and same classrooms because of cultural bias?
You aren't the most ignorant person on bgol, but you are the most stupid due to your refusal to deal with the fact that you are a complete fuckin idiot.
shittie said:
You point to everything being fine in a few years because of trickle down cash from pop culture stars while the Harvard Professor critically evaluates evidence to come to grips with real problems and obstacles that prevent our children from succeeding and designing and implementing real solutions.
You are the poster child for mental retardation.
shittie said:
All blacks are first generation middle class. I didnt say they were.
We did not just "enter the game"
We are "falling behind" because we do not grow economically at the rates of other groups in this society you fucking MORON.
Merely because the middle class is growing does not mean its GROWTH RATE is on par with ethnic groups.
Damn man can you borrow someone else's brain before your next reply?
Makkonnen said:
I see you stoomped so low as to change my name. Lets make the point clear what we're talking about is a Afrocentic worldview vs a eurocentic view clearly you represent the euro while I believe time is on the Black side. In the future be a man don't bitch yourself out like this.
You ran from the argument like a coward again.nittie said:
You have no evidence to back up your poorly thrown together reasoning.
I hope your life is not as rife with failure as your arguments are.
Luckily for the "Black Side" we dont have ignoramuses like you trying to solve educational inequities.
I guess the silver lining in this program is how it brings the middle class under the same umbrella Cosby placed lower income Blacks....
A study on how upper class Black students compare to their counterparts on the same socio-economic scale would be appropriate right now, if for nothing but to show self-haters that we are ALL in the same boat...there are no Black people on one side of the coin and ******* on the other.
A study on how upper class Black students compare to their counterparts on the same socio-economic scale would be appropriate right now, if for nothing but to show self-haters that we are ALL in the same boat...there are no Black people on one side of the coin and ******* on the other.
Jim_Browski said:
I alluded to the movement taking place to try to create a sub-class amongst blacks in the Bill Cosby thread.
I showed how whites created their own sub-class called white trash and anything negative shown about whites, gets atributed to white trash.
I showed how, though Bill Cosby's intent was correct, his choice of forum was not ideal (college kids amongst their peers) to discuss lower socio-economic problems. White kids who may not have been exposed to blacks enough to not stereotype when they are eventually in charge of an interview room.
Its one thing to have a forum with college blacks showing them their role in the whole scheme of things. Its a totally different thing to talk about giving baby names, baby daddies, blacks not reading, not going to college etc...
The blacks he is talking to are already trying to do something about the situation on a personal level.
They needed to hear how they can contribute systematically to change things.
I will re-iterate:
It is easy to go after the small fish.
(The only reason I brought up the Bill Cosby thing is because a certain person cannot get over what I said and mentioned it in this post. Don't worry about who it is, he/she will come running.......)
Peace
No need to be coy my friend, I stand by mine like you stand by yours. We just have a difference of opinion as to what college young-adults should be exposed to.kayanation said:
I understand how you might feel if you were in that audience with Cosby, but I don't see how you can speak for how someone else felt (those actually present in the audience). You would have felt embarrassed hearing what Cosby said in the company of whites. <u>Some</u> of those present may have felt like you would have, but neither of us know that (at least, I haven't read where they were embarassed).
You know my position -- college students should be exposed to a wide variety of study and life experiences. They might as well get a good taste of life as it is, since once they have graduated, there may not be someone around to hold their hands.
I can appreciate that statement - both the admission of what Cosby's intent may have been and that you feel it was the wrong forum. We agree on the former, while we may forever disagree on the latter.Kayanation said:
QueEx
nittie said:
What culturally biased tests are you referring to?
he's trying to say the math part of the sat is culturally biased and that the study by the brother at harvard is bullshit because black people control pop culture and that will have our kids performing better on tests and in school in the next 20 yearsGET YOU HOT said:
QueEx said:
That is so true for so many individuals...
Once the students walk that aisle with the cap and gown, it's not as "automatic" as some think it is...Worse yet, it seems like they're basically in the same situation that they were when they graduated high school...Problem is now they owe the school money.
College is one of the few times when an individual can experience how "life" is...they damn sure aren't doing a good job teaching it in high school...And it's not like you could get a decent job with a bachelor's degree depending on many factors...
Maybe the problem is that many people have had their hands held so long, they may never be ready to let go...
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