toddler survives yemenia airbus crash

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A toddler has been found alive amid the debris of a passenger jet that crashed into the Indian Ocean early Tuesday with 153 people on board, officials said.

The Yemenia Air Flight IYE626 was en route from the Yemeni capital of San'a to the island nation of Comoros when it went down over the Indian Ocean between the southeastern African coast and Madagascar in the early hours of Tuesday, officials said.

Comoros police said three bodies had been recovered so far and a small child has been pulled from the water alive. There is no word on other survivors.

The Airbus A310 was carrying 142 passengers including families with babies and 11 crew members.

Several bodies have been spotted floating in the water off the archipelago of three islands about 2,900 kilometres south of Yemen, said Mohammed Abdul Qader, a Yemeni civil aviation deputy.

Three search and rescue boats have been sent to an area about 30 km from the Moroni airport where the plane was expected to land, Abdul Qader said.

Some pieces of debris from the plane have also been recovered, said Rachida Abdullah, a police officer who works with the airport immigration department in Comoros.

Bad weather

Officials said they lost contact with the plane about five minutes before it was supposed to land on the main island of Grand Comore.

French Transport Minister Dominique Bussereau said poor weather in the region, where wind speed was 60 km per hour and there were choppy seas, may have played a role in the crash.

An Airbus statement said the twin-engine wide-body jet identified by the serial number 535 went into service in 1990 and had accumulated 51,900 flight hours. It has been operated by Yemenia since 1999. The company is sending a team of specialist to Comoros.

The Airbus was the second one to crash into the sea this month. An Air France Airbus A330 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean, killing 228 people on the night of May 31.

Yemeni, French and Comoron officials are jointly co-ordinating an investigation into the Yemenia crash.

66 French nationals on board

Officials said the majority of the passengers were from the Comoros islands and were returning home from Paris.

The French military is sending a patrol boat, a frigate, a reconnaissance ship and a military transport plane to the crash site, said military spokesman Christophe Prazuck.

Divers and medical personnel will be made available to help in the search, Prazuck said.

A crisis centre has been set up in Paris and Marseille, where about 67 people originally departed and then stopped to pick up more passengers, according to officials.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said 66 of the passengers were French and expressed "sincere condolences" to the victims' families.

The French Embassy in Moroni has also been mobilized to help families, Kouchner said.

"There is considerable dismay," Stephane Salord, the consul general of the Comoros in the Provence-Alps-Cote d'Azur region of France. "These are families that, each year on the eve of summer, leave Marseille and the region to rejoin their families in the Comoros and spend their holidays."
 
Yeah I was just reading about this online ... wtf is up with these recent plane crashes??? Before it happened every once in a while and now it seems to be happening more often:smh:

R.I.P to whoever passed

I'm happy to hear about the child surviving
 
Yeah I was just reading about this online ... wtf is up with these recent plane crashes??? Before it happened every once in a while and now it seems to be happening more often:smh:

R.I.P to whoever passed

I'm happy to hear about the child surviving

airbus airframes. there's been some issue about their airframes for a while now. there's gonna be an even bigger issue with the a380. like 20% of the a380 is carbon fiber. carbon fiber is not really tested under these circumstances so there might be growing pains. by growing pains i mean crashes and airframe failures.
 
airbus airframes. there's been some issue about their airframes for a while now. there's gonna be an even bigger issue with the a380. like 20% of the a380 is carbon fiber. carbon fiber is not really tested under these circumstances so there might be growing pains. by growing pains i mean crashes and airframe failures.

:eek: Nooooooooooooo :smh: So why do people keep riding them damnit?:(
 
:eek: Nooooooooooooo :smh: So why do people keep riding them damnit?:(

this is not colin or don cornelius friendly:

A320 AIRBUS IS A DANGEROUS PLANE. FAULTS ARE COVERED UP

An interesting take on the A320 (European Airbus) from a reader who knows his shit and investigated hundreds of crashes. Once you rfead this post you may never fly in an A320 again This is not only a dangerous plane, but accidents have gone unreported by our wonderful media.

(quote) A Brazilian Naval unit reportedly found the complete vertical fin/rudder assembly of the doomed aircraft floating some 30 miles from the main debris field. The search for the flight recorders goes on, but given the failure history of the vertical fins on A300-series aircraft, an analysis of its structure at the point of failure will likely yield the primary cause factor in the breakup of the aircraft, with the flight recorder data (if found) providing only secondary contributing phenomena. The fin-failure-leading-to-breakup sequence is strongly suggested in the attached (below) narrative report by George Larson, Editor emeritus of Smithsonian Air Space Magazine.

Here's a link to a detailed analysis. Letter continues: It's regrettable that these aircraft are permitted to continue in routine flight operations with this known structural defect. It appears that safety finishes last within Airbus Industries, behind national pride and economics. Hopefully, this accident will force the issue to be addressed, requiring at a minimum restricted operations of selected platforms, and grounding of some high-time aircraft until a re-engineered (strengthened) vertical fin/rudder attachment structure can be incorporated.>
-------------------------- (George Larson's Report)---------------------
This is an account of a discussion I had recently with a maintenance professional who salvages airliner airframes for a living. He has been at it for a while, dba BMI. Salvage at Opa Locka Airport in Florida. In the process of stripping parts, he sees things few others are able to see. His observations confirm prior assessments of Airbus structural deficiencies within our flight test and aero structures communities by those who have seen the closely held reports of A3XX-series vertical fin failures. His observations:

"I have scrapped just about every type of transport aircraft from A-310, A-320, B-747, 727, 737, 707, DC-3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, MD-80, L-188, L1011 and various Martin, Convair and KC-97 aircraft. Over a hundred of them. Airbus products are the flimsiest and most poorly designed as far as airframe structure is concerned by an almost obsession to utilize composite materials.

I have one A310 vertical fin on the premises from a demonstration I just performed. It was pathetic to see the composite structure shatter as it did, something a Boeing product will not do.

The vertical fin along with the composite hinges on rudder and elevators is the worst example of structural use of composites I have ever seen and I am not surprised by the current pictures of rescue crews recovering the complete Vertical fin and rudder assembly at some distance from the crash

The Airbus line has a history of both multiple rudder losses and a vertical fin and rudder separation from the airframe as was the case in NY with AA. As an old non-radar equipped DC4 pilot who flew through many a thunderstorm in Africa along the equator, I am quite familiar with their ferocity. It is not difficult to understand how such a storm might have stressed an aircraft structure to failure at its weakest point, and especially so in the presence of instrumentation problems.
 
airframe failure on the brazil flight is all but confirmed:

June 14, 2009, (Sawf News) - The spate of automatic messages sent by Air France Flight 447 Airbus A330 minutes before it disappeared included one that indicated that a rudder safety device had disengaged.

"The message tells us that the rudder limiter was inoperative," Jack Casey, an aviation safety consultant in Washington, D.C., told AP. "It does not give you any reason why it is not working or what caused it, or what came afterward."

The rudder limiter regulates the extent to which rudder can be applied at a given air speed to preclude structural damage to the aircraft.

With the limiter inoperative, excessive rudder inputs at high speed could cause the vertical stabilizer of the aircraft to shear off.

The vertical stabilizer was recovered nearly intact by Brazilian searchers prompting experts to theorize that it may have sheared off.

According to industry sources the rudder limiter locked itself in place because of conflicting air speed indications caused by icing on airspeed sensing pitot tubes.

Meanwhile, Airbus’ parent company, EADS, officials have emphasized the importance of locating the flight data and cockpit voice recorders (Black boxes) for accurately determining the cause of the crash.

"In such an accident, there is not one cause," EADS CEO Louis Gallois said on Sunday. "It's the convergence of different causes creating such an accident."

"It's essential for everybody to know what happened and we know that it's not easy. I hope we will find the black box," he added.

While the exact sequence of events will only be determined if the Black boxes are located there is little doubt the sequence was triggered by the aircraft’s entry into severe thunderstorms, points an Airbus pilot that Sawf News spoke to.

Air France Flight 447, carrying 228 people from Rio de Janeiro to Paris on May 31, crashed after running into fierce thunderstorms.

Brazilian authorities have so far retrieved 44 bodies from the Atlantic ocean; French ships have recovered another six.
 
airbus airframes. there's been some issue about their airframes for a while now. there's gonna be an even bigger issue with the a380. like 20% of the a380 is carbon fiber. carbon fiber is not really tested under these circumstances so there might be growing pains. by growing pains i mean crashes and airframe failures.
I do NOT ride on SCAREbuses if I can help it. My father has been working in aviation as a mechaninc for over 30 years...and he feels the same way. He said that AirBuses unlike Boeing planes are fused together as opposed to bolted together...its just waiting to come apart in midair. thats why all the airlines use them because they are made cheaper, not because its a better quality plane.
 
I do NOT ride on SCAREbuses if I can help it. My father has been working in aviation as a mechaninc for over 30 years...and he feels the same way. He said that AirBuses unlike Boeing planes are fused together as opposed to bolted together...its just waiting to come apart in midair. thats why all the airlines use them because they are made cheaper, not because its a better quality plane.

yessir. cheaper to purchase and also cheaper to maintain because they are lighter and more fuel efficient.

you are right. they are fused together and in some instances GLUED together. Yes, I said it. GLUED.

there's a reason in automobile engineering you hear things like "UNIBODY" construction - and how such a thing promotes structural rigidity.
 
they say its not the first time. a little child has survived a plane crash.

No it isn't ... my mother and I were just speaking about this .. she told me a story of a plane crash in the mountains and a 2 year old was found sitting in a tree or something like that


:eek: I am never ever ever gettin' on one of those and I am making sure my fam doesn't either :smh: I'm worried now about what sorta plane my brother will be on when he gets back from his trip to Egypt :(
 
peep this off the same airline pilot's forum:


Quote:
Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
When I saw the AF447 rudder I noticed one thing. The Forward Attach Point (nut) was still on the rudder and the aft one was missing.
I am not a accident investigator but studied it extensively in college, and what I deduce is this:
The forward attach point would have sheared on impact with the water if if was attached to the fuselage. Because the back one was missing I think it is reasonable to suspect large rudder or vertical stabilizer oscillations that caused the Afterword Attach Point to shear.


I concluded the same thing and noticed that the photographs indicate a good possibility that the vertical stabilizer/rudder actually sheared off in flight. If that did occur, then obviously the remaining fuselage would likely break up in flight. It makes sense that several of the bodies recovered to date had their clothing torn off, hurling through the atmosphere, especially considering the number of broken bones. Remember these folks didn't drown according to preliminary reports.

IF this scenario plays out and the final ruling is that this was the root cause of the accident, it will be interesting to see whether the NTSB actually has the guts to address this issue head on. I know the political and economic ramifications are huge but then again, so is the potential loss of life with operating aircraft with a known design flaw. Remember, if this scenario plays out, it will be the second major accident in which a vertical stabilizer/rudder structural failure of an Airbus aircraft was the cause.

Y'All be careful out there...yes, I know. We don't jump to conclusions and wait patiently until the accident investigators have completed their jobs.

G'Day
 
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