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I'm Starting to Have Serious Doubts About Amazon Prime

Adam Clark Estes

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My own personal Amazon Prime day is in two weeks. It’s not the day that Amazon puts a lot of random crap on sale. (That’s in approximately three weeks.) My day is when Amazon will charge me $120 for another year of membership. That’s $20 more than what the company charged me last year and $40 more than what I paid five years ago, when I signed up for a free trial of Prime and forgot to cancel it. This year, I think I might bow out.

It’s not the money, per se. Every time Amazon raises the price of Prime Membership, tech writers around the world flock to the topic and wonder, “Is Amazon Prime still worth it?” Heck, I wrote my own version of that blog post when the price went up a couple years ago. It was a fawning post, too, because I was in love with the free shipping and the new (at the time) Amazon Original movies and TV shows. I even signed up for an Amazon Rewards credit card so that I could get 5 percent back on my increasingly regular orders from the world’s largest store. The membership fee meant nothing, when Amazon made it seem like I was getting more for my money.


Years later, I’m carrying a balance on that Amazon Rewards card and paying more in interest than I’m reaping in rewards. That’s my own damn fault. I’m also going out of my way to buy stuff on Amazon, not because it’s more convenient but because I feel the need to take advantage of my Prime benefits. This is also my fault, and it happens in various ways. Sometimes, I’m tossing random shit into my cart, so that I can hit the minimum amount for a Prime Pantry box. Other times, I’m renting videos through Amazon Prime, because I can’t find anything good that’s free and, well, it’s so easy to do in the app. Sometimes I just open the app on my phone, when I’m bored and wonder if I should be buying stuff. This is the dystopia I pay for.

The contrast between my spending on Amazon pre-Prime and my spending after becoming a member is incredibly stark, too. Using this form, I downloaded the data of all every physical Amazon order I’ve made from my current account. (You can download yours, too, and the results might alarm you!) In 2008, I bought exactly two items on Amazon: a book about movies and a book about psychology. Fast forward to 2012, the year before I joined Prime, and my grand tally was… two items. The next year, I bought ten. Every single item came after my Prime membership. Things escalated after that. In 2017, I purchased 112 items on Amazon, all through Prime benefits. It’s worth pointing out that Amazon has expanded its inventory quite a bit over the years. It’s still mind-boggling to me that I went from buying two things a year on Amazon to buying 112 things a year, undoubtedly because of my paid Prime membership.

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It’s not like I’m spending my whole paycheck on Amazon orders, either. Most of my orders are in the $50 range, and most of the stuff I buy, I could also buy locally and carry home in my backpack. The one big, inconvenient thing I ordered was a TV that would have been free to ship even if I didn’t have Prime, since Amazon ships “all orders over $25 or more of eligible items” for free. So when I think hard about it, I’m only really benefitting from Prime when I buy, for instance, a single pair of very excellent nail clippers from Japan—which I have done. But it does feel crazy that I’m paying Amazon over $100 a year simply to encourage myself to buy more shit on Amazon.

The craziest thing is that I keep re-convincing myself that Amazon Prime is the best deal in tech. That’s an old Gizmodo conclusion, one that we’ve stood by for the better part of a decade. Prime is also a deal that keeps getting sweeter. Just this week, Amazon announced that Prime members will soon get discounts at Whole Foods stores nationwide, including free two-hour delivery in some states. How sweet it is! New discounts on overpriced groceries seem better than no discounts on regular groceries, so why wouldn’t I be tempted to walk the pristine aisles of my local Whole Foods looking for a yellow sticker or a blue Prime sign the next time I need to stock up?

It’s not so much that Prime is a good deal. It’s that Prime is a great trick. When I look back at my spending over the past five years, my profile perfectly matches up with that of the typical Prime member. According to Consumer Intelligence Research Partners (CIRP), Prime customers spend more than twice as much money on Amazon goods than non-members, and when Amazon hikes the price of membership, those Prime customers actually spend even more. That’s the business model. Historically, Amazon has actually lost money on perks like free two-day shipping, but the company is making up for it not only by impelling Prime customers to buy more stuff but also, increasingly, by encouraging them to buy goods from Amazon’s private label brands, which get promoted above other brands in searches on the site. Some say this represents a devious type of monopolistic business practices. I’m inclined to agree.




There’s also the fact that Amazon is the embodiment of the evil American corporation that I swore to avoid in my younger years. This is the new Walmart, the new Viacom, the new Visa, the new Google, and the new Nike all rolled into one. Those are only a handful of the logos that appear on the Adbusters Corporate America flag I hung on the wall of my college dorm, but before long, Amazon’s tentacles will reach even further into these massive industries. Amazon wants to grow its banking business. It’s explored opportunities in pharmaceuticals. We even learned recently that Amazon is very involved in selling facial recognition software to law enforcement. This, on top of the fact that Amazon continues to exploit its warehouse workers in extraordinary ways and apparently treats the contractors who deliver your packages even worse. And don’t even get me started on how Amazon has been hawking the data-hungry Echo, which is a potential privacy nightmare and yet another way that Jeff Bezos tricks you into buying more shit on Amazon.

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I know what you’re probably thinking. Here’s Adam, complaining about something again and then vowing to quit doing it forever. You’re not wrong. This is what’s happening, and it’s happened before. I complained about Seamless a few months ago and quit using it. I whined about Netflix last year and quit that service. Two years ago, I complained about coffee pods and stopped buying those. I am, indeed, a picky consumer prone to outrage and always ready for a boycott.




This fixation with Amazon is different, though. Amazon is the monster I invited into my home over a decade-and-a-half ago, when I started buying books for college online, and it’s been living in my basement since then, eating my spare change and growing. Over the years, when Prime entered the scene, the monster demanded more than the erstwhile meal of stray dollar bills and tapped directly into my bank account, where it started sucking down funds, like a colossus with a straw that led straight to my milkshake. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t enjoy the beast’s company sometimes. It’s always giving me fresh reasons to enjoy having it around. And it’s become increasingly apparent that Amazon Prime, now my nefarious old friend, can’t be replaced.

I have started shopping around. Instead of putting together a Prime Pantry box, I drag myself to the bodega and spend 50-cents extra on my favorite soap instead of coming up with a way to spend $40 and clear the bar for free Prime Pantry shipping. Instead of buying the weird dog food that qualifies for free shipping with Amazon Prime, I buy my dog stuff from a pet website with a better selection, and I cough up a few bucks for shipping. I bought new jeans from an actual clothing store the other day. They cost the same as the ones I always used to get from Amazon, and I actually got to try them on, so they fit great.

My shift away from shopping on Amazon isn’t saving the world. I am spending less money, though, and I’m actually spending it on stuff that I know I like. It’s like if you stop buying stuff on sale just because it’s on sale, you’d be amazing by how much more value you get for every dollar spent. That’s how I feel, anyways. Do I also feel a little better when my building’s lobby is full of Amazon boxes and none of them are mine? I’m not sure. Packages in the lobby make every day feel like Christmas. Until you see the
 
My lady has shit always coming, so I just use her Prime account. But I don't know if it's just me, or how they are. But my stuff rarely comes in 2 days as promised. Is a huge deal??? Not really, but if that's a main selling point then they're falling short. Every thing can be found online so their shows aren't a selling point either. So for 120 a year... I'm good...
 
Everything I spend on Prime is still less than what I would've spent at Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, Walmart, Autozone, etc... I still come out ahead. My relatives think that somehow I'm losing more money and won't be reasoned with. I can buy spices on amazon for $2 a bottle versus $5-7 at the grocery store. I can buy books at regular price and still get 40% off of the brick and mortar price. They assume that if I'm getting 5 different boxes at once that it's a lot of shit but it's one order shipped from multiple warehouses. That $150 worth of shit would've cost $280+ at the stores mentioned above and I would've had to waste time and money driving around town to get it. I think they're just accustomed to the retail experience, which is something I've always been annoyed by.
 
Please, Amazon continuing to kick ass and still taking names daily.
You can bitch all day but they still cheaper than many.

Many times in one month I've saved $120 easily checking prices on Amazon or even right in a store, price matching to Amazon. You can have many stores price match Amazon like Target, Best Buy and Wally World. But for the many trips I would of been driving to a store, for the gas and time, I'll stick to Prime.

I'm good...
 
If you're looking for a new apartment, try to get one with an automated package kiosk. You can get your deliveries out of it 24/7 and not have to wait for the apartment office to open. I've had to wait until Saturday to pick up stuff delivered on Monday in the past.
 
I don’t see that

I know man, but aarrruhh.... Look bruh, Master Fard Muhammad kicked Obama out of office and the Honorable Elijah said that he ain't gettin back in office, and given how little he did for black fokes, even the fake luciferian devil god white JEEEESUS won't let him get back in office :yes:
 
Everything I spend on Prime is still less than what I would've spent at Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, Walmart, Autozone, etc... I still come out ahead. My relatives think that somehow I'm losing more money and won't be reasoned with. I can buy spices on amazon for $2 a bottle versus $5-7 at the grocery store. I can buy books at regular price and still get 40% off of the brick and mortar price. They assume that if I'm getting 5 different boxes at once that it's a lot of shit but it's one order shipped from multiple warehouses. That $150 worth of shit would've cost $280+ at the stores mentioned above and I would've had to waste time and money driving around town to get it. I think they're just accustomed to the retail experience, which is something I've always been annoyed by.

add that to the time spent going to post offices or physical stores, the time i've saved and hassles is wwwaaaaay worth more than $120 in 1 year, i order thousands of dollars worth of shit every year off amazon , and i get good prices , often times cheaper than the stores and sometimes NEXT DAY delivery
 
Sheeeeiiiittttt. Even though I'm annoyed that the videogame discount doesn't apply to deluxe/collector's editions anymore, I'm still enjoying the fuck out of Prime.
 
The writer of that article is foolish. Whether Amazon Prime is a good deal depends on how one uses it. If one orders alot and wants great deals at generally lower than brick and mortar prices...the answer is yes. If one doesnt, then the answer is no. I used to get Amazon prime when I had my student account for $49 for the year and again once it was $99. At $120, I bowed out. I just use my girls account or, I will mass order things I need and pay the $12.99/a month prime fee. The music and movies and all that other BS they offer does not remotely appeal to me, but it may for others. However, I see no Tide turning against Amazon nor did the writer of that article make any points to convince me otherwise.
 
The only time the prices were not better on Amazon was what I bought my AV receiver. Amazon had it for $299 and I was able to find it for $219 Googling the model number
 
Google is in the cut.....

Google Express doesn't Replace Amazon Prime, But It’s Still Pretty Useful
Jaime Green
Filed to: GOOGLE EXPRESS

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In the arms race between Amazon and Google, homebodies are the clear winners. (Warehouse workers… not so much.) But Google’s latest parry, Google Express, sidesteps the warehouse entirely, delivering orders from your local stores straight to your home. It works a bit differently than Prime, even with Amazon’s recent expansions into groceries.


Google Express has been around for a while, under various names, but only recently has it become free—and expanded. As it is now, the service allows you (in the continental U.S.) to shop online from a variety of local and not-so-local stores. Delivery times vary, from same-day to about a week, and shipping is free if you meet an order minimum. (It varies from store to store, but it’s usually between $25 and $35). Below the order minimum, a $4.99 delivery fee applies.

Stores and shipping times vary by location. For my address in Brooklyn, at the time of writing this, I can get same-day delivery from Target and next-day delivery from Stop & Shop or Costco (you’ll still need a membership, but you can buy that from Google Express, too). And at least for me, from those stores, grocery options are limited to non-perishable foods and supplies.

Google Express goes way beyond groceries—the stores I can shop from include Home Depot, Ulta Beauty, and Guitar Center—but the shopping experience is constrained by its organization: by store. With Amazon Prime, you can buy a box of granola, some hand lotion, and guitar strings all in one order. With Google Express, you have to shop by store—and meet the free shipping minimums by store, then, too.

With many stores delivering through Google Express in a couple days, it ends up not feeling that different from Amazon Prime. But while Google can offer some same-day delivery, Amazon takes the cake for speed: with Prime Now, you can order (from a somewhat constrained list of options, compared to regular Amazon Prime) with two-hour delivery. And if you hit $35, your delivery is free. (For Prime Now, though, you’re encouraged to tip your delivery person.)

Amazon also gives you broader grocery options than Google Express, though with a membership fee, which covers all the Prime perks: $99 yearly, or $49 for students, with monthly membership options, too. Because of the faster delivery times, Prime Now can offer perishable foods, including fruits and vegetables, dairy, and even a limited selection of Whole Foods 365 products. (Amazon is starting to offer delivery of Whole Foods groceries to Prime members, starting in Austin, Cincinnati, Dallas, and Virginia Beach, but likely expanding soon.)

Grocery hounds can also benefit from Prime Pantry, which lets Prime members shop for home essentials and nonperishable foods. It’s a slightly convoluted system—there’s no shipping minimum, but as you add items to your order, you fill a “box,” which is actually a weight limit, and each box costs $5.99 to ship. Some Amazon items are only available through Prime Pantry, rather than regular Prime—according to Amazon, “The introduction of Prime Pantry allowed Amazon to expand its selection and offer thousands of items to Prime Members that are cost prohibitive to ship for free individually.” And, yes, Prime Pantry includes a bunch of Whole Foods/365 products, too.

With all of the ways to order with Amazon Prime, Google Express’s one way of working isn’t a replacement. (Though, if you’re trying to give less of your money to Amazon, it will surely help with that.) (But then so would going to your local stores.) There is something reassuring about knowing which stores your Google Express order comes from—something about ordering produce from Amazon Prime, irrationally, creeps me out. But since Google Express has no membership fee, you don’t have to choose between it and Prime. It just means you have more options, all from the comfort of home.

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The only issue I have with Amazon is sending me used shit when I ordered new.

They will either take it back or give me up to 1/2 of my money back for the product, but it's still a hassle when you just want a brand new product sent to you.
 
My lady has shit always coming, so I just use her Prime account. But I don't know if it's just me, or how they are. But my stuff rarely comes in 2 days as promised. Is a huge deal??? Not really, but if that's a main selling point then they're falling short. Every thing can be found online so their shows aren't a selling point either. So for 120 a year... I'm good...
Are you ordering peime shipping qualified prosucts?
 
The only issue I have with Amazon is sending me used shit when I ordered new.

They will either take it back or give me up to 1/2 of my money back for the product, but it's still a hassle when you just want a brand new product sent to you.
Never received anything used when I ordered new, you sure you buying from Amazon and not a seller on there?
I'm sure they wouldn't do that.
 
Shit I'm never going to pay for prime if amazon keeps sending me my stuff like they do. I ordered my garden of life pills Sat did the free shipping option so I was not suppose to receive my stuff for a week. These pills came in on Monday. This happens a lot with the items I buy on there.
 
The only issue I have with Amazon is sending me used shit when I ordered new.

They will either take it back or give me up to 1/2 of my money back for the product, but it's still a hassle when you just want a brand new product sent to you.

Used? I average about 40 orders a year off Amazon in the last 7 years. Never gotten an item that looked used

Are you getting stuff that says fulfilled by Amazon?
 
If you're looking for a new apartment, try to get one with an automated package kiosk. You can get your deliveries out of it 24/7 and not have to wait for the apartment office to open. I've had to wait until Saturday to pick up stuff delivered on Monday in the past.

You can contact your carrier via Amazon customer service and order them to deliver it directly to you and not to leave it at an office.
No tide change here. My biggest problem is with my deliveries UPS sucks at times but no problems with Amazon.

My lady has shit always coming, so I just use her Prime account. But I don't know if it's just me, or how they are. But my stuff rarely comes in 2 days as promised. Is a huge deal??? Not really, but if that's a main selling point then they're falling short. Every thing can be found online so their shows aren't a selling point either. So for 120 a year... I'm good...

If you paid for faster shipping, you can call and let them know that you did not get your package on time and they will give you a perk. I got an extended month of prime, refund or a free $20 gift card when they did not deliver as promised. Regardless, let them know if they don't deliver on time.
 
Shit I'm never going to pay for prime if amazon keeps sending me my stuff like they do. I ordered my garden of life pills Sat did the free shipping option so I was not suppose to receive my stuff for a week. These pills came in on Monday. This happens a lot with the items I buy on there.

I'm guessing you live in Atlanta because the same thing happened when I lived there. There are so many shipping hubs nearby that I used to get everything in 2 days max regardless of what I selected for shipping.
 
I'm guessing you live in Atlanta because the same thing happened when I lived there. There are so many shipping hubs nearby that I used to get everything in 2 days max regardless of what I selected for shipping.
Nope I'm in Oklahoma
 
You can contact your carrier via Amazon customer service and order them to deliver it directly to you and not to leave it at an office.




If you paid for faster shipping, you can call and let them know that you did not get your package on time and they will give you a perk. I got an extended month of prime, refund or a free $20 gift card when they did not deliver as promised. Regardless, let them know if they don't deliver on time.
Thanks for that bit of knowledge. Its appreciated.
 
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