THIS SOME BULLSHIT THE MODS DID OUT SPITE AND CENSORSHIP...INTERESTED IN BUMBAY DA DOGG'S POSTS

:smh: Another numb skull thread from the alt right CAC dumb gay da bitch. His butt buddy the male faggotist should pop up any moment to give him a reach around.

https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/b...-really-gonna-get-a-good-laugh-today.1005612/

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This is incomplete reporting full of half truths and the back channel attempt wasn't until after the election was won not during the time frame this discusses.
 
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/#/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Zero Hedge or ZeroHedge is described as a "markets-focused" blog, that presents both in-house analysis, and analysis from investment banks, hedge funds, and other investment writers and analysts. Zero Hedge, per its motto, is bearish in its investment outlook and analysis, often deriving from its adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles. While often labeled as a financial permabear, Zero Hedge is also seen as a source of "cutting-edge news, rumors and gossip about the financial industry". Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis, where its editorial has been labelled by some as being associated with the "alt-right", as well as being anti-establishment, conspiratorial, and showing a pro-Russian-bias. Zero Hedge in-house content is posted under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden", however, the founder and main editor was identified as Daniel Ivandjiiski.
 
If the information contained in the article is wrong, then provide creditible information to disprove the article and cohen's swear statement
so because you post some right wing bullshit we are supposed to give it credibility?

why not use Breitbart

BROTHER,

Anybody should give the truth credibility whoever and wherever it comes from.

The truth is truth! No matter our personal feelings, bias or allegiances.

What about the article is not true or the statement from cohen?

Can you provide credible sources which back up your assertions?
 
This is incomplete reporting full of half truths and the back channel attempt wasn't until after the election was won not during the time frame this discusses.

"the back channel attempt wasn't until after the election was won not during the time frame this discusses."

Do you have proof from a credible source to corroborate your assertion?
 
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/#/

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge

Zero Hedge or ZeroHedge is described as a "markets-focused" blog, that presents both in-house analysis, and analysis from investment banks, hedge funds, and other investment writers and analysts. Zero Hedge, per its motto, is bearish in its investment outlook and analysis, often deriving from its adherence to the Austrian School of economics and credit cycles. While often labeled as a financial permabear, Zero Hedge is also seen as a source of "cutting-edge news, rumors and gossip about the financial industry". Zero Hedge expanded into non-financial analysis, where its editorial has been labelled by some as being associated with the "alt-right", as well as being anti-establishment, conspiratorial, and showing a pro-Russian-bias. Zero Hedge in-house content is posted under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden", however, the founder and main editor was identified as Daniel Ivandjiiski.

David Van Zandt Owner and Editor:
  • Is a member of the Council Of Foreign Relations
The Council of Foreign Relations was founded by David Rockefeller (do I need to say more) founded in 1921 in New York City. Some other famous founding member are:
  • Allen Dulles
  1. First Civilian Director of CIA
  2. Believed to be a key conspirator in JFK assination
  3. International crook
  4. International Globalist
  • Paul Warburg
  1. International Globalist khazarian criminal (crimes to numerous to name)
  2. War Financier
  3. Economic Hit man
  4. Founder of Federal Reserve
  5. Co-Conspirator in 1929 stock market crash
  6. Key delegate at The Treaty of Versailles to bankrupt Germany
  • David Rockefeller
  1. International Globalist, King Crook
  2. International khazaran pirate/thief
  3. Destroyer of nations
  4. Council On Foreign Relations Founder
  5. Trilateral Commission Founder
  6. War Financier
  7. International Banker
  8. Involved Intricately with most major International 2oth century events
Other Imfamous CFR members:
  • Elliot Abrams
  • Madeline Albright
  • Bill Clinton
  • Dick Cheney
  • Henry Kissinger
This dude and his site are definitely GLOBALIST slanted. Its credibility is very questionable. You can't trust it.

Van Zandt is also President of "THE NEW SCHOOL" university/psy-op learning institution.
 
A ban is in order for posting fake news.

BROTHER,

What concerning this article or cohen's legal statement are "fake news"?

The statement is signed by Mueller as a corroboration of fact.

If you have a creditable source which shows opposing information please post it so we can all be educated?
 
This mufucca posting shit written by TYLER DURDEN from Fight Club, huh?

And this is allowed? :smh:
Fuck it I'm reporting this bullshit.
 
BUMBAY DA CAC....

This shit reads like the right-wing talking points I see on Twitter & various other forums..
Stop calling ppl “brother”, CAC......
FOH!!!...
 
Why is posting right wing fake news allowed????

What credible source do you have to dispute the facts in the article or cohen's statement?

Cohen's statement was signed by Mueller as a co-witness of its truthful nature.

So, are you just talking as usual? Or do you have real information and sources?

Must be a very slow morning at your medical practice. Since you have time for bgol posting?

"Why is posting right wing fake news allowed??"
So, you believe anything contrary to the left wing narrative is fake news and right wing?

The truth is the truth no matter where it comes from, even from you.

Stop thinking like kid, ignorant to the world.
 
This mufucca posting shit written by TYLER DURDEN from Fight Club, huh?

And this is allowed? :smh:
Fuck it I'm reporting this bullshit.


Reporting what?

What is the reason for the post? Because you simply don't like the author?

What is false about the article?

Cohen's statement is signed by mueller to corroborate its truthfulness. What about the statement do you have issue with?

Can you provide a credible source to dispute the article or cohen's statement, so we can all learn?
 
1 in 10 of this asshat's posts come from credible sources yet when he defends his hair brained buffoonery he has the unmitigated audacity to demand you post credible sources...

There are people on this Earth that are more deserving of the air this dumb fuck CAC is using... Life really isn't fair:smh:
 
Mueller Withheld "Details That Would Exonerate The President" Of Having Kremlin Backchannel

by Tyler Durden
Mon, 12/03/2018 - 20:54

It appears that special counsel Robert Mueller withheld key information in its plea deal with Trump's former attorney, Michael Cohen, which would exonerate Trump and undermine the entire purpose of the special counsel, according to Paul Sperry of RealClearInvestigations.
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Cohen pleaded guilty last week to lying to the Senate intelligence committee in 2017 about the Trump Organization's plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow - telling them under oath that negotiations he was conducting ended five months sooner than they actually did.

Mueller, however, in his nine-page charging document filed with the court seen by Capitol Hill sources, failed to include the fact that Cohen had no direct contacts at the Kremlin - which undercuts any notion that the Trump campaign had a "backchannel" to Putin.

On page 7 of the statement of criminal information filed against Cohen, which is separate from but related to the plea agreement, Mueller mentions that Cohen tried to email Russian President Vladimir Putin’s office on Jan. 14, 2016, and again on Jan. 16, 2016. But Mueller, who personally signed the document, omitted the fact that Cohen did not have any direct points of contact at the Kremlin, and had resorted to sending the emails to a general press mailbox. Sources who have seen these additional emails point out that this omitted information undercuts the idea of a “back channel” and thus the special counsel's collusion case. -RCI

Page 2 of the same charging document offers further evidence that there was no connection between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin; an August 2017 letter from Cohn to the Senate intelligence committee states that Trump "was never in contact with anyone about this [Moscow Project] proposal other than me," an assertion which Mueller does not contest as false - which means that "prosecutors have tested its veracity through corroborating sources" and found it to be truthful, according to Sperry's sources. Also unchallenged by Mueller is Cohen's statement that he "ultimately determined that the proposal was not feasible and never agreed to make a trip to Russia."

“Though Cohen may have lied to Congress about the dates,” one Hill investigator said, “it's clear from personal messages he sent in 2015 and 2016 that the Trump Organization did not have formal lines of communication set up with Putin’s office or the Kremlin during the campaign. There was no secret ‘back channel.’”

“So as far as collusion goes,” the source added, "the project is actually more exculpatory than incriminating for Trump and his campaign.” -RCI

The Trump Tower Moscow meeting - spearheaded by New York real estate developer and longtime FBI and CIA asset, Felix Sater, bears a passing resemblance to the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between members of the Trump campaign and a Russian attorney (who hated Trump), and which was set up by a British concert promotor tied to Fusion GPS - the firm Hillary Clinton's campaign paid to write the salacious and unverified "Trump-Russia Dossier."

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British concert promotor and Fusion GPS associate Rob Goldstone
“Specifically, we have learned that the person who sought the meeting is associated with Fusion GPS, a firm which according to public reports, was retained by Democratic operatives to develop opposition research on the president and which commissioned the phony Steele dossier" -Washington Post

In both the Trump Tower meeting and the Trump Tower Moscow negotiations, it is clear that nobody in the Trump campaign had any sort of special access to the Kremlin, while Cohen's emails and text messages reveal that he failed to establish contact with Putin's spokesman. He did, however, reach a desk secretary in the spokesman's office.

What's more, it was Sater - a Russian immigrant with a dubious past who was representing the Bayrock Group (and not the Trump Organization), who cooked up the Moscow Trump Tower project in 2015 - suggesting that Trump would license his name to the project and share in the profits, but not actually commit capital or build the project.

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Felix Sater, FBI and CIA asset, real estate developer, ex-con
Sater went from a "Wall Street wunderkind" working at Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers, to getting barred from the securities industry over a barroom brawl which led to a year in prison, to facilitating a $40 million pump-and-dump stock scheme for the New York mafia, to working telecom deals in Russia - where the FBI and CIA tapped him as an undercover intelligence asset who was told by his handler "I want you to understand: If you’re caught, the USA is going to disavow you and, at best, you get a bullet in the head."

The Moscow project, meanwhile, fizzled because Sater didn't have the pull within the Russian government he said he had. At best, Sater had a third-hand connection to Putin which never panned out.

Sources say Sater, whom Cohen described as a “salesman," testified to the House intelligence panel in late 2017 thathis communications with Cohen about putting Trump and Putin on a stage for a "ribbon-cutting" for a Trump Tower in Moscow were “mere puffery” to try to promote the project and get it off the ground.

Also according to his still-undisclosed testimony, Sater swore none of those communications involved taking any action to influence the 2016 presidential election. None of the emails and texts between Sater and Cohen mention Russian plans or efforts to hack Democrats’ campaign emails or influence the election. -RCI

As Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch noted of Mueller's strategy: ""Mueller seems desperate to confuse Americans by conflating the cancelled and legitimate Russia business venture with the Russia collusion theory he was actually hired to investigate," said Fitton. "This is a transparent attempt to try to embarrass the president."

The MSM took the ball and ran with it anyway

CNN, meanwhile, said that Cohen's charging documents suggest Trump had a working relationship with Putin, who "had leverage over Trump" due to the project.

"Well into the 2016 campaign, one of the president’s closest associates was in touch with the Kremlin on this project, as we now know, and Michael Cohen says he was lying about it to protect the president," said CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

Jeffrey Toobin - CNN's legal analyst, said the Cohen revelations were so "enormous" that Trump "might not finish his term," while MSNBC pundits said that the court papers prove "Trump secretly interacted with Putin's own office."

"Now we have evidence that there was direct communication between the Trump Organization and Putin’s office on this. I mean, this is collusion," said Mother Jones's David Corn.

Adam Schiff, the incoming Democratic chairman of the House intelligence committee, said Trump was dealing directly with Putin on real estate ventures, and Democrats will investigate whether Russians laundered money through the Trump Organization. -RCI

As Sperry of RealClearInvestigations points out, however, "former federal prosecutors said Mueller's filing does not remotely incriminate the president in purported Russia collusion. It doesn’t even imply he directed Cohen to lie to Congress."

"It doesn’t implicate President Trump in any way," said former independent counsel Solomon L. Wisenberg. "The reality is, this is a nothing-burger."
 
https://www.justice.gov/file/1115596/download

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THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA vs MICHAEL COHEN


iv . On or about May 6 , 2016 , Individual 2 asked COHEN to confirm those dates would work for him to travel . COHEN wrote back , "Works for me ." v . From on or about June 9 to June 14 , 2016 ,

Individual 2 sent numerous messages to COHEN about the travel , including forms for COHEN to complete. However , on or about June 14 , 2016 , COHEN met Individual 2 in the lobby of the Company ' s headquarters to inform Individual 2 he would not be traveling at that time . c . COHEN did recall that in or around January 2016, COHEN received a response from the office of Russian Official 1, the Press Secretary for the President of Russia, and spoke to a member of that office about the Moscow Project. i.

On or about January 14 , 2016 , COHEN emailed Russian Official l ' s office asking for assistance in connection with the Moscow Project . On or about January 16 , 2016 , COHEN emailed Russian Official l ' s office again , said he was trying to reach another high- level Russian official , and asked for someone who spoke English to contact him
 
Writer Daniel Ivandjiiski aka Tyler Durden is a perma bear & crook that was banned from the securities industry.

Zerohedge is on par with Brietbart. Credible inside sources, then they bend & doozy it up with sensationlism. Folks that always feel like the walls are closing in on them, love animated sensationlized conspiracy.
 
"the back channel attempt wasn't until after the election was won not during the time frame this discusses."

Do you have proof from a credible source to corroborate your assertion?

I'm at work. Google Eric Prince Russian back channel. It took place Jan 2017, tho there may have been other attempts or discussions before that. I think there were intercepts that caught conversations also. I don't recall who, may have been Flynn.
 
Even if what you reported is true.

What does that have to do with signed cohen statement by mueller and its corroboration of the facts in the article?

Because you have exception with the author does that mean the article and statement are false?

Let's not take shots at the writer or me. Let's just deal with facts?
 
Don't waste your time @Camille

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