Things That Irritate Us About Caribbean Take-Out Restaurants

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Things That Irritate Us About Caribbean Take-Out Restaurants


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After years of enduring the ‘service’ at Caribbean take-out restaurants in North America, I brought up the topic in a recent episode of my weekly Facebook LIVE show as I wanted to know more about the experiences of others. During the open-mic session it became clear that I was not alone, nor was this something specific to North American based Caribbean restaurants. Additionally, it seems that there may be a sort of “immigrant” undertone to this and not simply a “Caribbean” characteristic.

Here’s the list of things that irritate us about Caribbean restaurants, as discussed on the show.

  • SERVICE – lack off and at times just plain rude
  • good luck trying to return a dish
  • there’s never everything listed on the menu available (no matter what time of the day you visit)
  • never advanced notice of being closed (you show up and they open or closed)
  • many don’t open on a Monday
  • many don’t stick to their business hours (if at all posted)
  • small portions and/or no consistency in portion size
  • no real consistency on food quality/taste
  • use of non-Caribbean or Caribbean trained chefs
  • scent on your clothing after you leave the establishment (poor ventilation)
  • where’s the smile Caribbean people are known throughout the world for?
  • cleanliness (works in conjunction to ‘scent’ mentioned above)
  • appreciation… at least pretend to care about customers
  • respect – customers appreciate that undivided attention. Send that text or handle that personal call another time
  • never seems to be adequately staffed (see next point)
  • always seems to be a long wait for food
  • even when you call in advance (for pick-up), you show up and still must wait
  • LOUD (and sometime vulgar) music
  • don’t ask to have a dish explained (what’s in it etc).. it’s as if they don’t know how to describe what they serve PLUS you’re expected to know each dish
  • colonialism is alive (happened to me personally many times) – where ‘fairer’ people get the pleasant greeting and smile, yet when I go up.. “wha yuh want”
  • plantain – YES! if it’s part of the meal, do include it and please make sure it’s not so thin I can strain my Mauby with it
  • gravy! after all these years you’d think they would clue-in and know that customers luv ah lil gravy
  • communicate to us if there’s bones and do ensure the curry goat with bones are not cut at a sharp angle (had my gum cut before)
  • cut chicken with a band-saw (clean cut) or risk having bone fragments in the chicken dish if you use a dull cleaver
  • explain to customers that boneless chicken does not necessarily mean chicken breast (white meat)
  • if a dish is not traditionally prepared and it’s your chef’s take on the dish, do communicate this to us


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I guess I should mentioned a few things to avoid the hate emails poring in. I’m very proud of my Caribbean heritage and I personally believe we’ve been blessed with an amazing Culinary Culture and with people who can COOK! By choosing to come to your restaurant (there are many other options to dine) it means I want to support you and by extension the Caribbean culture.

The observations mentioned above by the group does NOT represent ALL Caribbean restaurants and to those who make the extra effort to give us a truly awesome dining experience – we applaud you. To the restaurant owners guilty of any of the above.. time to correct yourself.

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    TOSHYA HARTLEY
    MARCH 28, 2018 / 11:50 PM
    What irritates me is that I call in an order. When I arrive, they dont have my order prepared. I have 30 minutes for lunch and it takes me 10 to get there one way. Other than that, I love the service and everything!

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    MARLENE BARKEY
    MARCH 28, 2018 / 11:54 PM
    I love Roti and The Roti House in Pickering are excellent restaurants to have Caribbean food. They serve rotinbut many other dishes too. I have experienced none of the problems listed above at either of these establishments. In fact the cook who is the owner at the Roti house has come and sat at our table while we are eating. Such a lovely lady. There are several other of these restaurants in our area and I have no complaints about any of them. My big complaint is my friend Richard Ward closed his restaurant called Barbados North! Such good food but he is enjoying retirement.

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    SANDY PITTENDRIGH
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 12:00 AM
    The only Caribbean restaurant in Montana is my kitchen. The cook there is an ornery blowhard. But at least he (me) does make Bahamian Peas and Rice. When ever I want it. And fish chowders. And stuff from the Naparima Girls High School Cookbook.

    Conch is hard to come by in Montana. That’s my biggest complaint.

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    ANITA LAWSON
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 12:05 AM
    Yep that’s about it. to. But that’s why I enjoy your show, so I can cook it myself. Thank you for that. Remain bless Amen.

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    CORINNE
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 12:15 AM
    I can relate to the comments made. I currently live in the UK and lived in the Netherlands for 15years. Same difference, both countries, always attide, hygiene varies but usually questionable. Why do we do ourselves such a disservice?! And wonder why they close down so quickly?! It’s the same in other aspects of retail where Caribbean people are concerned, whether it be a supermarket or hair shop selling Caribbean products, similar issues can be found. At some point I’ll learn to stop visiting theses establishments. But when you miss home, they’re the nearest thing but never fail to disappoint in some manner!!

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    RANDY
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 12:23 AM
    Chris, really enjoying the videos over the years and especially the book!! I read through the list. Most of the Caribbean places here in Atlanta are nice. Pleasant folks for the most part. A lot of what I read applies to African American restaurants and businesses period! LOL. Nothing but attitude is the worse thing. I will eat trash if you are nice about it. it is almost like they are doing you a favor by selling you food. Now back to the Caribbean restaurants. They start out with great food but over time the food is not as good. One chef told me that there are some dishes he makes that may have 16 different seasonings in it. So now I am hooked on that and because of expense, he cuts back on the seasoning. Then they put less of a number of seasonings. So their place is no better than others now. I love Caribbean style oxtails!! So does everybody else I guess. They are cooking them fast and half the time they are burnt and dried out. Does not matter what place I go too it seems. Finally I hate the Jamaican places that they are turning in to a Bistro. They install a fancy bar, some music (live sometimes) and up the price of food and make the portions smaller. Would be nice if it was like a real Caribbean club in the islands but it turns out more to be soft jazz. Ok, I dun fussin’

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    LISA
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 12:30 AM
    I no longer go to Caribbean restaurants as I am appalled by the lack of professionalism. Generally, the wait is extremely long, the full menu with prices is not displayed, and there is a lack of common courtesy. Don’t even think about asking for something different if you have food allergies.
    I’d give my money to other establishments where the customer is king.

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    LISA
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 12:31 AM
    I no longer go to Caribbean restaurants as I am appalled by the lack of professionalism. Generally, the wait is extremely long, the full menu with prices is not displayed, and there is a lack of common courtesy. Don’t even think about asking for something different if you have food allergies.
    I’d rather give my money to other establishments where the customer is king.

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    FELISHA COLEMAN
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 1:04 AM
    Rude, no appreciation-restaurant is over 40 min drive away and that’s one way not round trip, slow-1 person taking orders although there’s a long line but multiple people standing around,

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    PUMKIN
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 1:25 AM
    I live in Philadelphia and most of the Caribbean restaurants are poorly kept the surrounding doesn’t make you want to sit
    Attitude of workers are very poor and the food most of the time is just so disappointing hit or miss never consistent

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    JUUNE
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 1:49 AM
    Most of the comments are correct as regards to service and lack of. However, I seldom find the food lacking in taste, always tasty, and enough. Service is the problem!

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    ERVA MARCELLE
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 2:31 AM
    I live in Chicago , so I mostly get. Jerk chicken, curry goat , etc from one particular place with no problems, yes the wait might be a while, but that’s sweet Indian I guess. I am from Grenada. Keep up the good work Mr . Delarosa.

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    SHARON
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 2:36 AM
    The most irritating is the smug holier than thou attitude many of the cashiers (men & women but mostly women) have. You are literally being judged for buying food when the expectation is that you should be home cooking…They cut their eyes at you like how dare you, some mutter under their breath and glare at you. It’s like they forget the reason they are even working there…. HELLLLOOOO….You should be happy to get customers…our money is literally paying your salary! The irony is just unbelievable lol. You’re happy to support your own, but sometimes it’s just not worth the annoyance, especially when your patrionage is simply NOT appreciate. It’s not limited to one island/country either…the problem is quite literally the one unifying factor among all the restaurants. It’s this you should be grateful we are here and willing to serve you…um okay?

    Another thing is the lackadasical attitude to just developing more business. Case in point: I’m in NYC and I work in the Wall Street area. Other than 1 or 2 food trucks that you have to hunt down by word of mouth, 1 Jamaican restaurant within a deli and one Cuban restaurant in the vicinity, there is really nothing to satisfy your cravings for West Indian food…There was a Golden Krust (yes, I’m naming them) that opened about 4 years ago (in a great highly trafficked location), booming business (lines out the door and down the block every day) from the large contingent of West Indians that work in the area and many new customers that were Caucasian and other nationalities. At first, things were great, then came the realization that the lines were not just because they were popular, but because they were slow as molasses. Talking amongst themselves, taking phone calls, limited staff, etc. Imagine they were so successful that people started begging them to open up early (instead of around 11a) to serve Breakfast (like other locations did) . I remember the owner stating in an overly loud voice….why should I get up out of my bed at 4a to come serve any of you?? Cackle cackle and my girl thought she was the funniest thing ever…Mind you, the Financial District/Wall Street area is open for many businesses and City agencies in the vicinity 24hrs a day. Many start their work shifts at 4a or 5a , so this DUNCE instead of taking advantage of the clamor from her customers ignored their requests. Slowly, business started to drop off for the superlong lines, ignoring customers etc., which was sad since This Golden Krust actually had a good cook and they literally had a virtual monopoly on West Indian food in the area. One day a sign was plastered on the front door stating they were raising prices because the rent was too high… Okay, you would think they’re going to start opening early and offer Breakfast….NUH UH. Same behavior….Within 5 months of the signage, they were gone. Golden Krust shut. You let a cash cow slip through your fingers because of your apathetic behavior. Why open up a business if you don’t want to work and generate money?? This laziness & slackness is something that festers throughout these restaurants and it has to stop. When the business shut down for the same reasons, they find everything to blame but themselves.

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    CARL
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 3:02 AM
    I have experienced all of the issues mentioned and give a new restaurant at least 3 vistes just to make sure it wasn’t just a bad day. After the third time if the issues continue I no longer give them my business. I live in Nashville and the one restaurant I cater to is very professional, clean and polite. I lived in the South Florida area most of my life and the one issue I had with a lot of restaurants were the people hanging out in front of the establishment like it was social gathering place instead of a place of business At times you could ride back by the same restaurant and see the same people still hanging out in front. It sad because it can be in a shopping center and no other business will have this. The comments listed is the reason I don’t cater to most Caribbean/African American businesses. Finding ones that know how to run a business with professionalism are hard to find but when I do I try to crate to them as much as I can.

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    MICHELE
    MARCH 29, 2018 / 3:03 AM
    Well here in London UK, Caribbean restaurants usually translate to Jamaican restaurants with availability of foods from the other islands completely lacking. I stopped visiting any of them for the following reasons:
    • Poor customer service – no smile and nuff attitude
    • Hygiene standards not always up to the level I expect – you walk in and can see remnants of prior customers meals still not cleaned up
    • They don’t have the full component of menu items available
    • Portion sizes can be ridiculously small
    • Taste of meal disappointing leading to me thinking I should have just cooked it at home
 
Ray Copeland What bugs me as a Brit who used to live in Trinidad is that nearly every 'Caribbean restaurant' typically only offers Jamaican cuisine, and that's what Brits tend to think Caribbean food is. Turtle Bay has gone some way to changing the perception thatthere's more to Caribbean food than jerk chicken but the fact they changed the name of 'Trinidad Doubles' to 'Bridgetown Doubles' fills me with rage whenever I go in there (which is rarely anyway).
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Darla Grant-Braid
Me: Can i have 1 fry chicken, 2 jerk chicken meals, 1 curry goat, and some provisions please?

Every Caribbean restaurant in the GTA: Fry chicken gone, provisions gone, curry goat full of razor blade bones, forgets to include 1 of the jerk chicken meals.
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Caribbean Pot
no lie.. I was cut so bad by a curry goat bone.. I stopped eating it for over 15 yrs.
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Caribman Rob Allamani
My Thing is when ya order a goat roti and inside the roti is 4 pieces of goat meat and the rest is channa and potato.
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Jen Frankly
Their hours are whenever if ever.

And, does anyone wash his/her hands?

They're always out of oxtail.

Rude as rude can be.

The line moves slower than molasses on ice.

Preferential treatment, which I wouldn't mind so much if they weren't as rude as rude can be and slower than molasses on ice.

And, because I'm American, they think I don't know what I want or how stuff is supposed to taste.

They try to cater to American tastes unless they're in the heart of a West Indian neighborhood.

I couldn't even get hot pepper in one and the chief said it's because the "new people" (gentrifying neighborhood) couldn't handle it. Wah?!?!?

Yes, I'm being stereotypical, but it has merit when it comes to W-Indy restaurants for sure.

Sometimes I don't mind the rude because I can have a tongue, too (my mitochondria hails from the islands after all). I think it's fun and kinda add character to the experience, lol. But, I think if you're going to be like that, you better bring it with authentic good food.

Bad service and mediocre food is just mean.
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Rosanna Montoute
My thing is the people who open restaurants and have no idea how to cook, how to package take out meals and no customer service skills.
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Lafleur Jones
The stinking attitude is the worst one for me
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Janice M. Bess
I'm in Baltimore & Judy's Island Grill in Northwest Baltimore does not have those issues, which is a good thing. Their portion sizes did get smaller though.
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But it's still my favorite in the city.
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Shanielle Browne McEachnie
The standard of cooking and flavoring of the food is inconsistent too many times. I can't deal with it no more. Too much hurry cooking, burnt stew and high price. It's like they forgot how to season meat and cook properly.
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Emma Kent
The only Caribbean restaurant in my area is fabulous! The cook is from Trinidad and does amazing roti and Macaroni pie
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Naomi Mesbur
Exactly! That colonialism comment - nailed it!
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Alana Weaver
Not having certain items on their menu and long wait time when ordering carry out. Plus the prices for certain items. I can cook oxtails at home.
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Gerrud Greaux
That's why i cook my own... never happy with what i get at most Caribbean restaurants. . Seems like they just put salt on everything they serve and no other flavors. . And prices are ridiculous for the small portions..
 
When to go to C&J's on Utica Ave in BK and get back to NJ it's always some shit missing or wrong so had to check shit in the car before I leave SMH
 
Wow. Never had those issues except the goat be small and bony as fuck I’m like is this fucking sewer rat or goat mon? Also drown my shit in the jamaican sauce if I order jerk chicken you Rastafarian Spliff smoking mothrfuckers
 
One thing I've come to understand from traveling is that people in other parts of the world don't always move the same way westerners do. Our expectation is that they should :smh:

Mind you, many immigrants don't have the same self-discipline, same work ethic, same priorities, same values.... Nor should they, they are of a different culture altogether.

With that being said, I keep that in mind when going to a restaurant that may be run by immigrants, and I relax my expectations.
 
irie zulu restaurant here in brew town.

a year and a half ago, on a saturday.

got there when they first opened their doors @ 4:00pm.

took about 90 minutes to get my grub. lol!

great food, but they should've started firing up those ovens at least a hour before.

i'll hit it up again, but i'll try to order ahead. lol!
 
Theres a Jamaican spot on Stenton Ave in Philly that had awesome food and quick service...the first time, I went back and those mother fuckers were such dickheads. I waited for like a half hour because it was around 4:30 and I hadn't eaten shit all day. Sad thing is, I was the only person in the place. Can we get an explanation from a Caribbean member as to what the fuck is up at these spots?
 
Yup...when u find a good one support them because they know the deal, I've spent years learning how to make my favorite dishes at home, tastes better and no drama...oxtails stew rice & pea, stew fish or chicken, beef pattie, johnny cake, jerk chicken, ackee scrambled eggs, fried plantain...I make all that at home.
 
JUST GOT SOME OXTAIL AND SPINACH RICE WITH STEAM CABBAGE AND PLAINTAIN, SURPRISINGLY THE GIRL WAS COURTEOUS THE FOOD WAS DELCIOUS, BUT THE GRAVY WAS A LITTLE SWEET FOR MY LIKING.
 
Wow. Never had those issues except the goat be small and bony as fuck I’m like is this fucking sewer rat or goat mon? Also drown my shit in the jamaican sauce if I order jerk chicken you Rastafarian Spliff smoking mothrfuckers

that is why i stopped getting ox tail. and the pork has too much of the fat left on it.

thank goodness the fish dishes are good.
 
Yup...when u find a good one support them because they know the deal, I've spent years learning how to make my favorite dishes at home, tastes better and no drama...oxtails stew rice & pea, stew fish or chicken, beef pattie, johnny cake, jerk chicken, ackee scrambled eggs, fried plantain...I make all that at home.
I found a good one 2 min from my crib,provided big portions too. Chinks opened a wing spot next door ,few months later they were out of business . Negroes love got damn chicken ,but get this the Jamaican spot served wings too:smh:
 
I found a good one 2 min from my crib,provided big portions too. Chinks opened a wing spot next door ,few months later they were out of business . Negroes love got damn chicken ,but get this the Jamaican spot served wings too:smh:

They did it wrong. Sometimes they can coexist but sometimes folks be playing the odds. Just to lose anyway
 
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