The Zimmerman Trial: Justice for Trayvon! (Let's discuss it)

Not arguing....but the thing is that what the defense is attempting to do makes them look worst....

because the jury is saying "If this dude can t catch this chick in a lie."

Maybe she s not lying.

Great. But, you're talking about the perception, and not what I'm actually saying..



I'm not discussing whether it's working or not, I'm just saying that's all the defense can do at this point. He'll talk in circles, and try to jam her up about shit she lied about in the past to paint her as a liar..
 
Great. But, you're talking about the perception, and not what I'm actually saying..



I'm not discussing whether it's working or not, I'm just saying that's all the defense can do at this point. He'll talk in circles, and try to jam her up about shit she lied about in the past to paint her as a liar..

So far, that has not been the case though. He seems to be jamming himself up :smh:
 
Great. But, you're talking about the perception, and not what I'm actually saying..



I'm not discussing whether it's working or not, I'm just saying that's all the defense can do at this point. He'll talk in circles, and try to jam her up about shit she lied about in the past to paint her as a liar..

Oh I agree with that...
 
What's up with Florida's education system?.....:smh::smh::smh:

Obviously there isn't one. Sorry ya'll if I sound cold but I'm frustrated with her giving Trayvon's mom the run around. I'm pissed that that this woman's child and baby is murdered and her goofy stupid ass is talking about "I'm scared and I avoided them"...I'm frustrated because she's dumb and even more when a woman is looking for justice and is could be denied it because you don't feel like helping.
 
He got her to admit that she lied or left out things etc though. Although her description and her emotion about the funeral make her definitely sympathetic, the parts that she lied about and the fact that she left some things out... that plays right into the defense strategy. If her testimony ended right after she described what happened before the phone went dead, the witness would have been a prosecution win... but between her demeanor, and the other stuff I mentioned, I can't see this as a win for them at this point. Maybe on re-direct they can fix it up a bit, but I'm doubting it.



Terrible cross and a waste of time thus far. He has asked the same question in different variations about 7times. She is doing very well in answering and explaining why she was less than truthful with her age and reason for not attending the funeral. She appears to be a sympathetic figure in this all thus far.
 
Man folks gotta see that her being so silly actually plays to the youth factor.......

Young dumb high schoolers........

shouldn t be shot by adults......... end game.
 
Obviously there isn't one. Sorry ya'll if I sound cold but I'm frustrated with her giving Trayvon's mom the run around. I'm pissed that that this woman's child and baby is murdered and her goofy stupid ass is talking about "I'm scared and I avoided them"...I'm frustrated because she's dumb and even more when a woman is looking for justice and is could be denied it because you don't feel like helping.

I swear man that shit was hard to watch, I stopped watching because I just couldn't take seeing a young black woman coming like that. We need to educate our kids better than that.
 
that part was VERY effective... but if any juror is leaning towards Zimmerman already, any untruth, especially under oath, can be used to throw out her whole testimony. That will be part of the jury instructions before deliberations.



bruh...the bottom line that the defense needs to crack........and have not was....

"This crazy azz cracka is following me....." "The nicca is behind me."

"Get off"

.....the defense has nothing for that shit.....

and if she lied her whole life......

that shit that she has said is very.....very believable.....
 
Even this fucking lawyer might be dumber :smh:
Right. But the white educated attorney doing a horrendous cross gets a pass from the bgol collective as they hone in and bash an obviously nervous, traumatized mentally stunted child and critique her clothing choices, weight, and eyewear.

Whats being lost in this all is that this young lady is doing an excellent job at defeating his attempts to impeach her while managing to control the cross examination with her convoluted answers and retorts. This guy has completely lost direction and focus of his cross. Its embarrassing quite honestly. He looks twice the fool as she..
 
She's so bad I had to turn it off, first shed friends, then she's more than friends and trayvon got other girls and she's cool with that.

Then she's 18 but lied and said 16, didn't help cuz she was scared, didn't know who told her to. Record the interview.

She's failing all over the place and if the defense placed trayvon into that angry brother label it's a wrap.
 
that part was VERY effective (and came off as truthful to me)... but if any juror is leaning towards Zimmerman already, any untruth, especially under oath, can be used to throw out her whole testimony. That will be part of the jury instructions before deliberations. That's some of what further derailed Jodi Arias' defense.


I think the fact that she copped to him saying "crazy cracka" adds believability to her. That's something that someone trying to lie in favor of the prosecution could and would have left out. I just wish she was a better witness though.


bruh...the bottom line that the defense needs to crack........and have not was....

"This crazy azz cracka is following me....." "The nicca is behind me."

"Get off"

.....the defense has nothing for that shit.....

and if she lied her whole life......

that shit that she has said is very.....very believable.....
 
She's so bad I had to turn it off, first shed friends, then she's more than friends and trayvon got other girls and she's cool with that.

Then she's 18 but lied and said 16, didn't help cuz she was scared, didn't know who told her to. Record the interview.

She's failing all over the place and if the defense placed trayvon into that angry brother label it's a wrap.

none of this touches

"This crazy ass cracka is following me." "get off."

not a damn thing....all it is is silly teenagers on the phone.....

and.......that is huge for the defense for the youth factor alone....
 
He got her to admit that she lied or left out things etc though. Although her description and her emotion about the funeral make her definitely sympathetic, the parts that she lied about and the fact that she left some things out... that plays right into the defense strategy. If her testimony ended right after she described what happened before the phone went dead, the witness would have been a prosecution win... but between her demeanor, and the other stuff I mentioned, I can't see this as a win for them at this point. Maybe on re-direct they can fix it up a bit, but I'm doubting it.
One "lie" was about her age, the other about attending the funeral. She effectively answered, explained and addressed them all. Neither go toward her lack of credibility as a witness recounting details of the event. It was a terrible attempt to impeach. And her inability to articulate worked in her favor as the defense spoon fed her reason and rationale behind her dishonesty on those accounts. This was a failure for the defense.
 
One "lie" was about her age, the other about attending the funeral. She effectively answered, explained and addressed them all. Neither go toward her lack of credibility as a witness recounting details of the event. It was a terrible attempt to impeach. And her inability to articulate worked in her favor as the defense spoon fed her reason and rationale behind her dishonesty on those accounts. This was a failure for the defense.

none of this even matters.....about the one lie...cause you re right..the defense hasn t said shit.....
 
I feel sorry for this girl because I think she probably has a learning disability and the defense lawyer is trying to attack her.
 
but it's about the jury though. 5 of them being white jurors who may or may not have bad feelings towards young black men. Any lie, no matter how simple and whether or not it had anything to do with the actual shooting... those lies can be used by a juror to impeach the rest of her testimony. That's all I'm saying. The judge will say straight up that a lie can be used by you to throw out all or any part of a witnesses testimony.




One "lie" was about her age, the other about attending the funeral. She effectively answered, explained and addressed them all. Neither go toward her lack of credibility as a witness recounting details of the event. It was a terrible attempt to impeach. And her inability to articulate worked in her favor as the defense spoon fed her reason and rationale behind her dishonesty on those accounts. This was a failure for the defense.
 
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