The Zimmerman Trial: Justice for Trayvon! (Let's discuss it)

Based on what im being told is being said by this juror to Anderson Cooper, I hope you white woman worshiping coons are truly getting an idea of how they feel about you.

Ninja please!!!!

Imma still fuck fine white bitches aggressively, bust on their faces then drop em off at the nearest Metra train. This verdict aint stopping shit for me champ!!

:lol:

But on another note


I reading all these threads....all these folks utilizing stand you ground laws....then i realized that Chicago is about to allow folks to take guns outside their homes in about 6 months. We have laws which allow us to use deadly force if our lives are threatened. Hopefully the Trayvon shit wouldve calmed down by then.
 
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They acting a fool right now out here in oakland.
 
Hey BGOL fam check this out, I have a question!
The juror that just did the interview on CNN.
She said they did an initial vote, right when they first went to deliberate.
She said 3 jurors wanted not guilty, 2 wanted manslaughter, & 1 wanted murder 2.

Question..... how da fuck does someone go from saying yea he's guilty of Murder 2..... to nah he's NOT guilty of anything???

:smh::smh::smh:

Because you need an all people to agree or it is a hung jury. A strong personality like the one woman who interviewed makes a huge difference
 
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They acting a fool right now out here in oakland.


See the White girl?
Here's a video for the folks giving props to all the non-Blacks out their "fighting" for Trayvon.



Some may actually care...but for the most part the shit is fake and just phases that non-Black Americans go through due to guilt, being rebellious (especially against their parents and family), etc.

I know you all may want to think that people like Trayvon, Barack Obama etc etc is bringing people together..but the truth is racism is too strong in America. The love fest that you witness are only temporary.
 
Ninja please!!!!

Imma still fuck fine white bitches aggressively, bust on their faces then drop em off at the nearest Metra train. This verdict aint stopping shit for me champ!!

:lol:

But on another note


I reading all these threads....all these folks utilizing stand you ground laws....then i realized that Chicago is about to allow folks to take guns outside their homes in about 6 months. We have laws which allow us to use deadly force if our lives are threatened. Hopefully the Trayvon shit wouldve calmed down by then.

Tis my justice for Trayvon. If I really want to get gangster with it, I'll put it on a dvd for the whole racist dad, uncle, aunt to watch.
 
Eugene Robinsons Op-ed


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...d69-11e2-9008-61e94a7ea20d_story.html?hpid=z2

Black boys denied the right to be young

Justice failed Trayvon Martin the night he was killed. We should be appalled and outraged, but perhaps not surprised, that it failed him again Saturday night, with a verdict setting his killer free.

Our society considers young black men to be dangerous, interchangeable, expendable, guilty until proven innocent. This is the conversation about race that we desperately need to have — but probably, as in the past, will try our best to avoid.

George Zimmerman’s acquittal was set in motion on Feb. 26, 2012, before Martin’s body was cold. When Sanford, Fla., police arrived on the scene, they encountered a grown man who acknowledged killing an unarmed 17-year-old boy. They did not arrest the man or test him for drug or alcohol use. They conducted a less-than-energetic search for forensic evidence. They hardly bothered to look for witnesses.

Only a national outcry forced authorities to investigate the killing seriously. Even after six weeks, evidence was found to justify arresting Zimmerman, charging him with second-degree murder and putting him on trial. But the chance of dispassionately and definitively establishing what happened that night was probably lost. The only complete narrative of what transpired was Zimmerman’s.

Jurors knew that Zimmerman was an overeager would-be cop, a self-appointed guardian of the neighborhood who carried a loaded gun. They were told that he profiled Martin — young, black, hooded sweatshirt — as a criminal. They heard that he stalked Martin despite the advice of a 911 operator; that the stalking led to a confrontation; and that, in the confrontation, Zimmerman fatally shot Martin in the chest.

The jurors also knew that Martin was carrying only a bag of candy and a soft drink. They knew that Martin was walking from a 7-Eleven to the home of his father’s girlfriend when he noticed a strange man in an SUV following him.

To me, and to many who watched the trial, the fact that Zimmerman recklessly initiated the tragic encounter was enough to establish, at a minimum, guilt of manslaughter. The six women on the jury disagreed.

Those jurors also knew that Martin, at the time of his death, was just three weeks past his 17th birthday. But black boys in this country are not allowed to be children. They are assumed to be men, and to be full of menace.

I don’t know if the jury, which included no African Americans, consciously or unconsciously bought into this racist way of thinking — there’s really no other word. But it hardly matters, because police and prosecutors initially did.

The assumption underlying their ho-hum approach to the case was that Zimmerman had the right to self-defense but Martin — young, male, black — did not. The assumption was that Zimmerman would fear for his life in a hand-to-hand struggle but Martin — young, male, black — would not.

If anyone wonders why African Americans feel so passionately about this case, it’s because we know that our 17-year-old sons are boys, not men. It’s because we know their adolescent bravura is just that — an imitation of manhood, not the real thing.

We know how frightened our sons would be, walking home alone on a rainy night and realizing they were being followed. We know how torn they would be between a child’s fear and a child’s immature idea of manly behavior. We know how they would struggle to decide the right course of action, flight or fight.

And we know that a skinny boy armed only with candy, no matter how big and bad he tries to seem, does not pose a mortal threat to a healthy adult man who outweighs him by 50 pounds and has had martial arts training (even if the lessons were mostly a waste of money). We know that the boy may well have threatened the man’s pride but likely not his life. How many murders-by-sidewalk have you heard of recently? Or ever?

The conversation we need to have is about how black men, even black boys, are denied the right to be young, to be vulnerable, to make mistakes. We need to talk about why, for example, black men are no more likely than white men to smoke marijuana but nearly four times as likely to be arrested for it — and condemned to a dead-end cycle of incarceration and unemployment. I call this racism. What do you call it?

Trayvon Martin was fighting more than George Zimmerman that night. He was up against prejudices as old as American history, and he never had a chance.
 
See the White girl?
Here's a video for the folks giving props to all the non-Blacks out their "fighting" for Trayvon.



Some may actually care...but for the most part the shit is fake and just phases that non-Black Americans go through due to guilt, being rebellious (especially against their parents and family), etc.

I know you all may want to think that people like Trayvon, Barack Obama etc etc is bringing people together..but the truth is racism is too strong in America. The love fest that you witness are only temporary.



I wish more black folk would get this point. It's just a phases and soon they will leave yo ass behind. You as a black person will still be black with problems. They will straight up and become the people that will be giving the problems. Black folks are easily fooled by gesture of camaraderie.
 
Charles Blow's op-ed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/opinion/the-whole-system-failed.html?_r=2&


n a way, the not-guilty verdict in the trial of George Zimmerman for his killing of Trayvon Martin was more powerful than a guilty verdict could ever have been. It was the perfect wrenching coda to a story that illustrates just how utterly and completely our system of justice — both moral and legal — failed Martin and his family.

This is not to dispute the jury’s finding — one can intellectually rationalize the decision — as much as it is to howl at the moon, to yearn for a brighter reality for the politics around dark bodies, to raise a voice and say, this case is a rallying call, not a death dirge.

The system began to fail Martin long before that night.

The system failed him when Florida’s self-defense laws were written, allowing an aggressor to claim self-defense in the middle of an altercation — and to use deadly force in that defense — with no culpability for his role in the events that led to that point.

The system failed him because of the disproportionate force that he and the neighborhood watchman could legally bring to the altercation — Zimmerman could legally carry a concealed firearm, while Martin, who was only 17, could not.

The system failed him when the neighborhood watchman grafted on stereotypes the moment he saw him, ascribing motive and behavior and intent and criminal history to a boy who was just walking home.

The system failed him when the bullet ripped though his chest, and the man who shot him said he mounted him and stretched his arms out wide, preventing him from even clutching the spot that hurt.

The system failed him in those moments just after he was shot when he was surely aware that he was about to die, but before life’s light fully passed from his body — and no one came to comfort him or try to save him.

The system failed him when the slapdash Sanford police did a horrible job of collecting and preserving evidence.

The system failed him when those officers apparently didn’t even value his dead body enough to adequately canvass the complex to make sure that no one was missing a teen.

The system failed him when he was labeled a John Doe and his lifeless body spent the night alone and unclaimed.

The system failed him when the man who the police found standing over the body of a dead teenager, a man who admitted to shooting him and still had the weapon, was taken in for questioning and then allowed to walk out of the precinct without an arrest or even a charge, to go home after taking a life and take to his bed.

The system failed him when it took more than 40 days and an outpouring of national outrage to get an arrest.

The system failed him when a strangely homogenous jury — who may well have been Zimmerman’s peers but were certainly not the peers of the teenager, who was in effect being tried in absentia — was seated.

The system failed him when the prosecution put on a case for the Martin family that many court-watchers found wanting.

The system failed him when the discussion about bias became so reductive as to be either-or rather than about situational fluidity and the possibility of varying responses to varying levels of perceived threat.

The system failed him when everyone in the courtroom raised racial bias in roundabout ways, but almost never directly — for example, when the defense held up a picture of a shirtless Martin and told the jurors that this was the person Zimmerman encountered the night he shot him. But in fact it was not the way Zimmerman had seen Martin. Consciously or subconsciously, the defense played on an old racial trope: asking the all-female jury — mostly white — to fear the image of the glistening black buck, as Zimmerman had.

This case is not about an extraordinary death of an extraordinary person. Unfortunately, in America, people are lost to gun violence every day. Many of them look like Martin and have parents who presumably grieve for them. This case is about extraordinary inequality in the presumption of innocence and the application of justice: why was Martin deemed suspicious and why was his killer allowed to go home?

Sometimes people just need a focal point. Sometimes that focal point becomes a breaking point.

The idea of universal suspicion without individual evidence is what Americans find abhorrent and what black men in America must constantly fight. It is pervasive in policing policies — like stop-and-frisk, and in this case neighborhood watch — regardless of the collateral damage done to the majority of innocents. It’s like burning down a house to rid it of mice.

As a parent, particularly a parent of black teenage boys, I am left with the question, “Now, what do I tell my boys?”

We used to say not to run in public because that might be seen as suspicious, like they’d stolen something. But according to Zimmerman, Martin drew his suspicion at least in part because he was walking too slowly.

So what do I tell my boys now? At what precise pace should a black man walk to avoid suspicion?

And can they ever stop walking away, or running away, and simply stand their ground? Can they become righteously indignant without being fatally wounded?

Is there anyplace safe enough, or any cargo innocent enough, for a black man in this country? Martin was where he was supposed to be — in a gated community — carrying candy and a canned drink.

The whole system failed Martin. What prevents it from failing my children, or yours?

I feel that I must tell my boys that, but I can’t. It’s stuck in my throat. It’s an impossibly heartbreaking conversation to have. So, I sit and watch in silence, and occasionally mouth the word, “breathe,” because I keep forgetting to.
 



A mere two days after finding George Zimmerman innocent of the murder of Trayvon Martin, juror B37 in the case has signed on with a prominent literary agent, as a prelude to a book deal. This juror is a woman who hates the media and went into the trial mistakenly believing there were "riots" over the case.

- She dislikes the media in general and considers it worthless. "You never get all the information... it's skewed one way or the other."

- "I don't listen to the radio" or read the internet, she said.

- During questioning, she referred multiple times to "riots" in Sanford after Trayvon Martin was killed. "I knew there was rioting, but I guess [the authorities] had it pretty well organized," she says at one point. In fact, despite a great deal of salivating anticipation by the media both before and after the trial, there were no riots in Sanford, Florida.






"that book"........ get it




:cool:
 
no way do you let her on with her background.

you want unbiased jury members. people who will be piecing the case as the prosecution and defense presents it. not someone who is well versed. she's from the area, there is no way that her husband who is an attorney hasn't discussed it. im willing to be both the prosecution and the defense know her husband.



Bills man....... :smh::smh::smh:


"unbiased"

That Sir, does NOT exist.

It's the reason why I made an entire thread about the word "objective" not being real.
Is there anything such as "objective thought"? What does it really mean?
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=738999

YURUGU Bro.

White peopel have successfully convinced black peopel that there is something called "non bias" and "objectively"


How do you loot at something "objectively"?

:confused::confused::confused:

When white people use those words, it's intent is to disengage your thought process while impressing on you, their own thought process.

My 1st heads up was George Soros book about the Financial Markets and the Wall Street Crash.
Then YURUGU confirmed it.



:cool:
 
Charles Blow's op-ed:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/16/opinion/the-whole-system-failed.html?_r=2&


The system failed him because of the disproportionate force that he and the neighborhood watchman could legally bring to the altercation — Zimmerman could legally carry a concealed firearm, while Martin, who was only 17, could not.

This is the entire essence of my complaint about the entire case....from the lack of arrest....to the lack of guilty of manslaughter....

murder 2 was a bit much because malice would be hard to prove against someone you dont know.....

but the state of Florida did not allow Trayvon the ability to be able to adequately defend himself.......

because he was a kid......

that alone meant that Zimmerman had a bigger responsibility in the situation.....

i.e. neglect.....Manslaughter easily.....
 
This is the entire essence of my complaint about the entire case....from the lack of arrest....to the lack of guilty of manslaughter....

murder 2 was a bit much because malice would be hard to prove against someone you dont know.....

but the state of Florida did not allow Trayvon the ability to be able to adequately defend himself.......

because he was a kid......

that alone meant that Zimmerman had a bigger responsibility in the situation.....

i.e. neglect.....Manslaughter easily.....



Case? :confused::confused::confused:


There was never a case.

The cops decided that night that there was no case i.e. no reason to do due diligence.
The sheriff resigned, law enforcement would not touch it so how does a prosecutor try a case with no cooperation from the cops?

Similarly Angela Corey overcharged knowing that a conviction would not happen and instead of prosecuting the case, she handed that hot potato off to incompetence to ensure the outcome remains the same.


Black people get confused with process not understanding that the reason why white supremacy works is because it ensures the outcomes remain the same.

They were all in it



:cool:
 
Florida...a state that looks like a pistol right to left, or a dick left to right: in either case, both can shoot but neither is worth a fuck if you don't know what you're doing. and they don't know what they're doing.

an original thought from max.

fuck Florida...weird ass state.

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Bills man....... :smh::smh::smh:


"unbiased"

That Sir, does NOT exist.

It's the reason why I made an entire thread about the word "objective" not being real.
Is there anything such as "objective thought"? What does it really mean?
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=738999

YURUGU Bro.

White peopel have successfully convinced black peopel that there is something called "non bias" and "objectively"


How do you loot at something "objectively"?

:confused::confused::confused:

When white people use those words, it's intent is to disengage your thought process while impressing on you, their own thought process.

My 1st heads up was George Soros book about the Financial Markets and the Wall Street Crash.
Then YURUGU confirmed it.



:cool:


Theory Kaya
 
Case? :confused::confused::confused:


There was never a case.

The cops decided that night that there was no case i.e. no reason to do due diligence.
The sheriff resigned, law enforcement would not touch it so how does a prosecutor try a case with no cooperation from the cops?

Exactly - there was never a case because like it or not ZIMMERMAN HAD NOT BROKEN THE LAW.

He may not have been morally right or overzealous and he may have crossed the line but none of those things are illegal.

Many do not like the result but justice has been done. Jurors looked at the evidence and the law and could not convict.
 
So let me get this straight, and please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm one of the few people that did not follow this trial closely.......

Trayvon is walking home at night, Zimmerman sees him and calls 911 about a suspicious character in the neighborhood, the dispatcher advises him not to follow or try to engage because the cops are being dispatched, Zimmerman ignores the advice (which apparently is legal to do) and pursues Trayvon anyway, Zimmerman confronts Trayvon and during the confrontation he ends up taking an ass whipping, because he's getting his ass beat he pulls out a gun and shoots Trayvon. Trayvon ends up dying. Zimmerman's defense for the shooting is then he felt threatened and as a consequence he beats a murder rap for a confrontation that he initiated. Oh and it turns out that there was no cause for alarm in the first place because Trayvon was just walking home from the store after buying candy....

Does this sum up essentially what happened?


Yes, however the dispatcher did ask GZ where TM was. When GZ said he would follow TM he was told "We don't need you to do that".

It all rests on your point of "...a confrontation that he initiated".

By "initiated" you could say GZ walks up to TM and questions him - that is allowed and legal. Starting a physical fight - not legal.

The jury believed that TM initiated the physical fight, so GZ was entitled to use deadly force to defend himself.
 
Exactly - there was never a case because like it or not ZIMMERMAN HAD NOT BROKEN THE LAW.

He may not have been morally right or overzealous and he may have crossed the line but none of those things are illegal.

Many do not like the result but justice has been done. Jurors looked at the evidence and the law and could not convict.

You sound like a redneck that spent your childhood with your face in your father's lap you filthy maggot
 
Exactly - there was never a case because like it or not ZIMMERMAN HAD NOT BROKEN THE LAW.

He may not have been morally right or overzealous and he may have crossed the line but none of those things are illegal.

Many do not like the result but justice has been done. Jurors looked at the evidence and the law and could not convict.

Self defense is subjective.. This case was more of a matter of opinion, than an application of Law for the Jury..



It could have gone either way, but the Jury was sympathetic to George, and they believed every word of his account..
 
Exactly - there was never a case because like it or not ZIMMERMAN HAD NOT BROKEN THE LAW.

He may not have been morally right or overzealous and he may have crossed the line but none of those things are illegal.

Many do not like the result but justice has been done. Jurors looked at the evidence and the law and could not convict.

legally you're correct. but only because the prosecutors main witness no longer walks with us.

the defense does not have to say a word...nothing in court. and since the only version of events told was from gz's video testimony, true or false, it's the only one the jury could really believe, bc the prosecution basically agreed to it by not providing a theory of their own. idiots.

an attorney on msnbc broke down how they could have forced zimmerman on the stand due to his varying stories, but the prosecutors never went down that road...they let it slide.

if the jury only gets one side of the story, and if the prosecution doesn't even try to combat that story...guess what? :smh:

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Case? :confused::confused::confused:


There was never a case.

The cops decided that night that there was no case i.e. no reason to do due diligence.
The sheriff resigned, law enforcement would not touch it so how does a prosecutor try a case with no cooperation from the cops?

Similarly Angela Corey overcharged knowing that a conviction would not happen and instead of prosecuting the case, she handed that hot potato off to incompetence to ensure the outcome remains the same.


Black people get confused with process not understanding that the reason why white supremacy works is because it ensures the outcomes remain the same.

They were all in it



:cool:

I agree with what you said....my point was related to the inequality of stand your ground.
 
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*In protest of the George Zimmerman verdict, former U.S. Olympic boxer Terrell Gausha is vowing to never sport the red, white and blue again, reports TMZ.
Gausha, who boxed in the 2012 London Summer Games, began wearing the American flag on his boxing trunks following his Olympic run. But he tells TMZ he’s done with that now in the wake of Zimmerman’s acquittal in the killing of Trayvon Martin.
“How can I wear my stars and stripes proudly in a country where they make a big deal out of Mike Vick fighting dogs; but not a young innocent black male’s life,” he said.
Gausha has turned pro, so he’s not eligible for the U.S. team in 2016.
“When I represented my country in the Olympics I was proud to wear my flag,” Gausha added. “I even wore it on my head on the way to the ring. What happened this weekend was a slap in the face.”
Gausha says he refuses to rep a “nation with so much racism and hatred.”


http://www.eurweb.com/2013/07/boxer-refuses-to-wear-us-flag-after-zimmerman-verdict/?fb_source=pubv1
 
I agree with what you said....my point was related to the inequality of stand your ground.

You missed his point. There is no inequality because it was not set up to be equal.

Like Charles S. Dutton said in Menace 2 Society


"The hunt is own, and you're the prey"

 
After sitting back on reflecting this a bit...
My heart tells me that this kid was fighting over the gun from the get go.

If zimmerman is such a wimp as the defense made him out to be...he had the gun drawn with one in the chamber when he left his car. When they approched each other, TM saw him with his gun already out, saw an opening and figured he could either die or die trying. I'm believing the whole tussle was over control of that gun. The screams were irrelevant. That idiot straight up murdered that boy.

It makes much more sense than what zimm said what happened.

:smh:
 
Self defense is subjective.. This case was more of a matter of opinion, than an application of Law for the Jury..

It could have gone either way, but the Jury was sympathetic to George, and they believed every word of his account..

legally, the jury had no choice bc the defense presented their version of the events...and the 3P (piss poor prosecution) team basically agreed with them...and didn't bother presenting their own theory. :smh:

the case boiled down to: "who threw the first punch?"

a kid kicked zimmerman's ass, and he couldn't take it. Trayvon was probably standing when he saw the gun & retreating when gz pulled the trigger. :smh:



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legally, the jury had no choice bc the defense presented their version of the events...and the 3P (piss poor prosecution) team basically agreed with them...and didn't bother presenting their own theory. :smh:

the case boiled down to: "who threw the first punch?"

a kid kicked zimmerman's ass, and he couldn't take it. Trayvon was probably standing when he saw the gun & retreating when gz pulled the trigger. :smh:


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This is what I think happened....Trayvon got up on some ole....."Help....help me."

and then Zimmerman was so pissed that he got punched that he shot him....

Realtalk:

George was the son of a local judge....all of those dudes own the law down there.....

they let George carry his gun and play cop down there and when he acted crazy with all the 911 calls they said "Oh that s Judge Zimmerman's son....let him have his play cop fun."

sad shit man.
 
You missed his point. There is no inequality because it was not set up to be equal.

Like Charles S. Dutton said in Menace 2 Society


"The hunt is own, and you're the prey"



Charles Dutton.

My man, 50 grand.

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This needs to be our mentality.

 
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You mofo's hear the latest???

My wife just told me on the news that Zimmerman is suing the Martin family because their crackhead son attacked him?!!!

I googled this and found that he is suing NBC for defamation of character.

forwarded the article to me, I guess this is some bogus site?
http://nationalreport.net/george-zi...eing-brutally-attacked-by-their-juvenile-son/

if true, and I really doubt it, as that site is not credible......

the best defense is a good offense.
 
You mofo's hear the latest???

My wife just told me on the news that Zimmerman is suing the Martin family because their crackhead son attacked him?!!!

I googled this and found that he is suing NBC for defamation of character.

forwarded the article to me, I guess this is some bogus site?
http://nationalreport.net/george-zi...eing-brutally-attacked-by-their-juvenile-son/

I call bullshit.

if not, this = death sentence for George and/or anyone near him, old, young, later, cop whatever. somebody will go full retard & berserk.

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