Am I the only one who can't stand to watch a match with Bray Wyatt or any of the others (Harper and Rowan). These dudes look like dirty wet dog smelling white people. I can't stand smelly white people, and its hard for me to want to watch them on my TV. My wife is always grossed out by them, but I find myself mostly not interested in their matches. Am I the only one?
 
Am I the only one who can't stand to watch a match with Bray Wyatt or any of the others (Harper and Rowan). These dudes look like dirty wet dog smelling white people. I can't stand smelly white people, and its hard for me to want to watch them on my TV. My wife is always grossed out by them, but I find myself mostly not interested in their matches. Am I the only one?

I don't watch Wyatt cause I think he is overrated and I find his promos boring. Nothing he says makes me want to watch
 
Loved the Wyatts pre-Wrestlemania. Now it's just whatever.

They booked them bad asses and a lethal force. From the moment the build to Bray Wyatt vs John Cena at Wrestlemania began things started to go sideways and nothing good came for him from that feud.
 
They booked them bad asses and a lethal force. From the moment the build to Bray Wyatt vs John Cena at Wrestlemania began things started to go sideways and nothing good came for him from that feud.

What pissed me off was having Cena say that Bray can't fight alone. As if he didn't just beat Daniel Bryan cleanly back at the Royal Rumble. I knew it was gonna be bad from there.
 
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I don't watch Wyatt cause I think he is overrated and I find his promos boring. Nothing he says makes me want to watch
Dude is just CORNY. Him and Ambrose.


I didn't know people felt that way about Wyatt and Ambrose. I actually like those two. Especially in the current WWE which is sadly filled with people who aren't good at cutting promos.
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Loved the Wyatts pre-Wrestlemania. Now it's just whatever.
They booked them bad asses and a lethal force. From the moment the build to Bray Wyatt vs John Cena at Wrestlemania began things started to go sideways and nothing good came for him from that feud.
What pissed me off was having Cena say that Bray can't fight alone. As if he didn't just beat Daniel Bryan cleanly back at the Royal Rumble. I knew it was gonna be bad from there.


If anything, I'd agree with this. Wyatt was on fire pre-Mania / pre-feud with Cena. Serious question for the fam: when was the last time (if any) that a person feuding with and/or befriended Cena and came away being elevated? It's just a lot easier for me to remember all the upper mid card guys who went into a feud with Cena being hot red and came away from the feud either buried or in the same exact spot.
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Not a big fan of Ambrose either. He runs his mouth a lot and it first I liked it but it's just repetitive.
I've said it before, he's a wannabe Pillman, Austin and Piper, in a PG era. It doesn't work.
 
Not a big fan of Ambrose either. He runs his mouth a lot and it first I liked it but it's just repetitive.

Can see how you feel that way. He has an old school throwback vibe but for me thats part of his appeal. If you listen to old school promos must were corny
 
Am I the only one who can't stand to watch a match with Bray Wyatt or any of the others (Harper and Rowan). These dudes look like dirty wet dog smelling white people. I can't stand smelly white people, and its hard for me to want to watch them on my TV. My wife is always grossed out by them, but I find myself mostly not interested in their matches. Am I the only one?

I'm a fan but I've seen that some people aren't.
I actually like their look because they aren't the typical cookie cutter/bodybuilder types WWE loves.


They booked them bad asses and a lethal force. From the moment the build to Bray Wyatt vs John Cena at Wrestlemania began things started to go sideways and nothing good came for him from that feud.

:yes: That's when it went sideways. Instead of using Cena to build up a new, red hot heel, they protected Cena again and it hurt Wyatts' momentum.
I like him feuding with Ambrose but neither of them are coming off any really big wins. Wyatt won the cage match with Jericho but between the two of them, that's the only major win for either of them for months.


More Punk and then I'll post Vince's response on Austin's podcast

The conversation between CM Punk and Colt Cabana picks up after Punk had the medical procedure done to remove his staph infection and is now on three months' worth of antibiotics, Punk said that now he could suddenly sleep and he slept for a long, long,.long time.

Out of nowhere, Vince McMahon texted him and wrote that he wishes Punk could have lasted to the end of his contract, but Punk is now suspended. He said that Punk was suspended for two months. Punk said that suspension took him to the day after Wrestlemania 30. Punk said, "Well, I don't care about wrestling, so whatever."

The day after Wrestlemania 30 comes and nobody reaches out to Punk or tells him anything. Punk said he had to listen to Vince on an investor call say that Punk was on a sabbatical. Punk said, "Huh? Why wouldn't he announce to his investors that I'm suspended?"

Punk notes about this time, he doesn't receive his royalty check. Punk says he has "some wonky sh** going on with the mail" so he just assumes it's late. Another week goes by and he doesn't hear anything.

Punk then a story about being in his basement cleaning out of some tubs that were on his bus and realizes he has a big check from the previous year that was for a lot money that he forgot to cash [Mike: I've heard lots of stories like that from guys who worked in the 1980s] so Punk said, "Well, now what do I do?" So, he calls them and asks them to reissue the check [new year means the old check is no longer valid] and to tell them he hasn't received his royalty check and asks them to re-send it.

Punk said he called the name of the guy who's name is on the check. He said the guy's teeth were chattering when he started speaking to Punk. When Punk asked him about the royalty check, he was told it was on the desk of "C. Scott Amann, who is their lawyer." Punk asked why, since no one had contacted him. Punk asked to speak to him and called both Tom and the lawyer daily, but they weren't picking up the phone, responding to messages and nothing was being sent to him.

Punk said, "What are we, stalemating until the contract is up?" He said that at that point,he was leaving a "sh**load" of money on the table, "but that was fine, I didn't care." Punk said he was happy and not stressed and no one was slinging mud. Punk said that perhaps they are just two ships passing in the sea and Punk said they can keep the money because that's how much his happiness and health was worth to him.

Then, Punk started receiving butt-dialed phone calls and blank texts from different WWE executives, including one from Jane Geddes where he could hear her talking to Mark Carano in the background. So, he called Geddes back and left a voicemail, saying he was assuming she was calling about the money he had asked about. He said he was being overly polite and doesn't hear back. She finally texts a week later and said she didn't mean to call him and will look into those checks. Geddes never gets back to him.

Punk said that at this point, he's talking to the department he's supposed to speak to, Talent Relations and isn't hearing back anything. He notes at the same time, "All hell is breaking loose" as he's getting married, planning a honeymoon and the Chicago Blackhawks are in the Playoffs, so he doesn't worry about the money and sets about getting ready for everything else in his life.


Punk said that two days before his wedding, he gets a text from Triple H out of nowhere. He asks if Punk has time to talk. Punk said it's the 11th of June at this point and he's a little pissed off. Punk told Triple H that he "was reasonable" and wrote back, "I've always had time to talk and I've been here but I'm getting married in two days and will be leaving for my honeymoon. I will call you the second I am back. In the meantime, re-issue me that royalty check that I've been asking about for two months. That is reasonable and then I will call you when I get back."

Punk said that Triple H didn't respond to the text and the day of his wedding, he received a Fed-ex informing him that he was terminated from WWE. He said, "Take that, everyone who says I'm a quieter", making fun of how some fan on Twitter once said that to him with a misspelling. Punk said, "I was fired. On my wedding day. Very calculating. Very deliberate." P

unk said as much as he chuckled at it and didn't let it ruin his day, he felt, "Once again, you pushed too f***ing far. You pushed the wrong guy."

Cabana said it should be known, "You were fired on your wedding day."

Punk said that Vince had tears in his eyes and wanted to hug him goodbye and say that Punk was "family" and then they fire him on his wedding day.

Punk said the letter from WWE was tremendous and claimed Punk was fired and that he was in Breach of Contract as of 1/27/14 [Note from Mike: The day he walked out] and that he wasn't going to be receiving any of his royalties. Punk said he wasn't even a lawyer and he knew that "you can't claim Retro-Breach." Punk said that if he was in breach of contract then, they needed to tell him on January 28th and he would have been fine with that since he had to go home and treat the staph infection they refused to diagnose and treat, plus the concussion and he's needed to go home for at least a year.

Punk also said there was a breach of contract no-compete naming Ultimate Fighting Championships to which Punk commented, "..But they aren't competition, but in mine and Del Rio's breach letters, they were named, but they aren't our competition. Why would they be?"
Punk said he called a vicious lawyer from Los Angeles in the 15 minutes he had to spare. Punk told him the entire story and said, "I will call you when I get back" and the lawyer said, "Great. Let's get those motherf****ers."

Punk said, "And, we got those motherf***ers."


Punk said the only thing he isn't allowed to talk about was the terms of the Settlement, but he doesn't think it's wrong for him to say that he got everything he wanted "and then some."
On the WWE 2K15 videogame, Punk said it was, "Dumb of them to advertise me for the videogame." He said 2K Sports Tweeted at him asking, "Do I have your attention now?" Punk said, "Well, 2K Sports, do I have your attention now? Thanks for the big fat f***ing check."
Cabana asked if there was a complete split. Punk said it took awhile. They wanted to issue a joint statement and Punk told them No. He said that they wanted something that they agreed not to disparage the other. Punk said, via his lawyer, that they were the ones that walked into his hometown on Raw and said he was a quitter [Note from Mike: Stephanie McMahon said that in a promo in response tof hometown fans chanting Punk's name, live on Raw], so if they were willing to go back to Chicago on Raw and say that they lied and apologized and that he was fired on his wedding day and see how the fans in Chicago react, then he would consider signing such a document.

Punk said he wasn't trying to go on an anti-WWE tirade and that if people think that's what he was doing on Cabana's show, it was really him telling his story. He said that if there are bitter parts, that's part of "f***ing life" and he's working through it and trying to get over it.

Punk said that WWE kept saying to his lawyer that they "knew" Punk was going to TNA and would perform on an anti-WWE platform. Punk's lawyers told them Punk wasn't going to TNA and that Punk, "Absolutely despises professional wrestling and wants nothing to do with it and will never wrestle again." Punk said that WWE kept trying to bully so they could feel like they actually won something.

Punk said that there is no working relationship with WWE and there never will be ever again.

On his merchandise that is now being sold, WWE wanted to be able to sell off old existing merchandise that had been produced via Shopzone that he is allowing them to see. He joked that if someone wants texting gloves in Indonesia, now they can get them and Punk will get royalties for that.

Punk said the wedding day "thing" is pretty ridiculous.

Punk said that WWE was terrified that after ten years of Punk being an independent contractor, he was going to take them to court and "ruin" the way they do business.

He said he would like to see a union created to take care of the guys and the girls that way he knows WWE is serious about protecting them since they are independent contractors who aren't allowed to go work anywhere else. Punk compared that to the claim that UFC isn't a competitor to WWE, "but you can't go work there for a year after we fire you on your wedding day."


Punk said he doesn't like [WWE] and doesn't have to like it and is moving on to things that make him happy, like writing comic books and he's been training every day. Cabana said he's going to be able to venture out and do new things in a new world. They talk about Punk going into new things and Cabana said that even if he fails at some of them, it's awesome that he will be doing them.

Punk said that he failed at wrestling and his goal of being in the main event of Wrestlemania. He said that even though Vince McMahon and Kevin Dunn told him he should have been on last at Wrestlemania 29 and he thought, "Yeah, I know." He said that's the feather in his cap.

Punk said he feels good having discussed all of this. He said some people will be a sheep and think he quit, but he got fired and laughed at that. Punk said he doesn't want to be that crazy guy who is like "F*** WWE."

He said that when people online write that he doesn't speak to his friends from WWE anymore (naming that Chris Jericho said that in the reports), Punk said that he still talks to his friends, just not people with ulterior motives that are looking to go back and use conversations for their podcasts and blogs and looking to use that for attention.

Punk also said he wanted to clear the air on the story of a fan at a Blackhawks game who asked him for a picture and that Punk blew him off. Punk said that he was out with his wife on a date night on one of the rare nights they have together. He joked that unfortunately, the other people he took a photo with didn't post online how he took photos with them, but the one guy who yelled, "Hey Phil? Can I get a picture?" with no please or thank you did so just as Punk was trying to buy his wife a hot dog and had his hands full with the other food they had purchased. Punk said there was no please or politeness, so he ignored it. Punk said he is fine with people coming up to him in public, but only when they come up and are polite and ask politely.

"If you are nice to me, I'm nice to you. If you are rude to me, I'm rude to you."

They close out telling the story of Punk seeing a guy in Los Angeles who had on a Colt Cabana t-shirt, so he paid for the guy's breakfast and tried to sneak out before the guy could see who did it.
 
One thing, Vince comes off as very sincere here but he's clearly delusional and he still doesn't that the problem isn't the guys in the ring but the guys in the suits (like himself)

Welcome to PWInsider.com's ongoing coverage of the Steve Austin podcast with Vince McMcMahon on the WWE Network.

Austin welcomed Vince to the podcast,which is on the Network. Austin asked him how the Network was doing and Vince said it was doing great both from a subscription and a content standpoint. Austin asked him about the UK and Vince said it's been a stop/start thing and they hope to have it wrapped up by the first of the year, but noted that wasn't a promise.'

Austin asked him how in tune Vince was with the wrestling fans right now. Vince said that they don't do wrestling but sports-entertainment. Vince said that not every match is going to "hit" and no one else does the content weekly that they do and then broadcast it worldwide. Austin said he'd like to see more in-ring over the course of the show and asked Vince if he's wrong in wanting too much wrestling. Austin said that sometimes the early segments take too long. Vince acknowledged that and said that you do have to give the audience a hook or they won't care about the matches.
Austin said that there are no other big leagues for other talents to go to and there are talents who are walking on eggshells afraid to do anything. Vince said, "Well don't piss anyone off." Vince said that there isn't as much camaraderie and silliness backstage as there was in Austin's era. He described the locker room as "less ambitious" because they are "Millenials."[UD-Bullshit]Vince said the last guy to really try and reach for the brass ring was John Cena. He sees potential in Ambrose, Rollins and Reigns but they aren't there yet. He said the talents don't do what Austin did. Austin challenged the roster to take chances and try to get over. Vince said the roster is thin and he wants to see guys do it as well. Vince said there are those who are afraid of failure.

Vince was asked what he was looking for in Superstars. Vince said he's looking for someone who's hungry and wants to learn and keep learning every day. Austin told a story about a wrestler getting a bigger than usual pop at MSG and Austin pointed it out to Vince and Vince said that he hoped that person got over. That told Austin it wasn't just Vince with a magic wand but Vince hoping guys took the reigns.

Austin asked why Cesaro hasn't clicked yet. Vince said that perhaps it's because he's Swiss but he hasn't shown the charisma but Vince hopes he eventually does. Vince said it could be his style. Austin pointed out that the momentum was lost for Cesaro based on the way he was booked. Vince said he doesn't have all the answers and Cesaro isn't being given up on.
[UD again: this is an easy one: you stuck him with Paul Heyman for a hot minute, then pulled Heyman and went to jobbing him.]
Austin talked about the Creative Team and how different it was from the days of Vince working from his pool. Austin asked why creative got so complicated. Vince said that the company grew in leaps and bounds and went public and it's not going to be a one man show. Vince said he can't do it all and joked that he used to work Pat Patterson to the bone. He talked about how when people would come by his house, they'd end up in the pool because Vince loves ribs and described it being one of the funniest things in the world. Vince said you have to have fun to make fun. Austin told a story about Shane tossing Vince in the pool.

Austin asked where Shane McMahon is. Vince said he's a happy camper and has his hands in a lot of pots and is in Japan. He said Shane's departure was something of a mutual thing. He said being a family in business is difficult. Vince said he tried to do what was right for business. Vince said his dad didn't want him in the business and he wanted his kids to do what they wanted to do.

Vince told the story of an announcer holding his father up for money and his father refusing, then deciding Vince would be the announcer with no experience, "and you're going to do a good job." Vince gave him a partner and it was Arnold Skaaland. Skaaland was a man of few words so Vince asked him father for someone else to help him. There were a number of individuals who helped him.

Austin asked him if he wanted to talk about CM Punk. Vince said he wanted to personally apologize for Punk getting his termination papers on his wedding day. He said that in a company their size, the different areas of the company didn't know what was going on in the other areas. He said he was very sorry about the timing of when Punk received his paperwork.
Vince then said that he didn't want to go through dirty laundry. Vince said there have been others who were disgruntled and they said things they later regretted and he hoped he and Punk would one day work together again. Vince said he didn't listen to the Colt Cabana interview but heard Punk used a lot of expletives and things were said that were his perspective on things. He said that he had issues with Austin and Hulk Hogan but they eventually came back. Vince said he was willing to work with Punk again and admits that while Vince has a big ego, he is willing to put it aside and work with Punk down the line. Vince later said Punk worked really hard for the company.
Austin talked about working with Vince and being in a similar situation. Vince said Austin was difficult to work with at times. They talked about Austin walking out when he was asked to put over Brock Lesnar, Austin said he was hard-headed and never returned Vince's calls. Finally, Jim Ross sent him a card in the mail and offered to talk with Steve anytime Ross put them back in touch. Austin asked if there was someone who could bridge the gap between Vince and Punk. Vince said that unfortunately there is not and Punk is pretty much a loner and has a lack of communication. Vince said that when attorneys get involved it's going to "hell in a handbasket."

Austin told a story about Vince fining him $650,000 when he returned. Vince then told him what he thought was fair. He settled on $250,000. Vince said when you walk out, not on the company but the fans you have to do something or else the next time you don't like the creative, you walk out again.

Vince said that Austin had the communications, perhaps not with Vince but with others and Punk was a loner. Vince admitted he himself can be introverted and shy and he understands it and talked about feeling uncomfortable when he was at political events for his wife and would often find himself talking to the bartender, who was more his kind of people


Austin talked about watching The Undertaker losing at Wrestlemania. He asked about the background of ending the streak. Vince said that no one wants to give back to the business more than Mark Calaway. He said that it was time and when you look down the line on who he could work with, who else was it going to be. There was no one else it could be. He said that Brock was the one person that Mark felt was the guy. Austin challenged him and Vince admitted he made the decision to end the Streak.
Austin asked Vince why Brock Lesnar isn't around more. Vince said you don't want him around more, because he's a special attraction.

Vince said Randy Savage would absolutely be in the WWE Hall of Fame. He said it would be soon but not perhaps this year. Austin cornered him and made Vince say yes.

On Sting, Vince McMahon said he made a great impression but he's the type of character you don't need to see every week but "I think you'll see him at Wrestlemania." Austin said that when he was hot, he was on every show and Vince said the business has changed and some of it is contracts.

They talk about the Monday Night War. Vince said he always felt WWE was more passionate and WCW having talent in charge of their own creative created chaos. Austin said they don't have any real competition and Vince said that they compete with everything on TV. He said they and WCW were burning so hot and it was a question of who was going to burn out first. Vince always kept ideas in his pocket. He said all the WCW issues eventually wore them down.

Austin talked about Vince expanding WWF. Vince said he was willing to buy the AWA but Verne Gagne blew him off. Vince said all he had was creative skills, a lot of luck and big grapefruits. Vince said the territory promoters had money but they didn't put it back in the business. Vince kept reinvesting in the production and bringing in partners from the outside to help you grow while the others were happy just filming a show in a studio. He said Bill Watts the only promoter who tried to really fight against them. He didn't want to compete with Watts but then he sold out to Jim Crockett and Vince said, "Aha, I see where this is going. Jim Crockett wasn't the smartest branch in the tree. Vince said cable television was down 10% because of all the other choices and they still compete with everything.
Vince McMahon said that there's no heat with Jim Ross and he likes him as a human being. He said he didn't want to get into it but there was an incident in Los Angeles that surprised Vince in how Ross handled it but said he was sure they would work together again one day. Vince said that he helped Jim get to where he wanted to go, back to Oklahoma. He said Jim worked really, really hard for him and contributed greatly. Ross was the one who decided to take it easy and help some and didn't want to work 24/7, 7 days a week. He said you have to be "all in" on the business especially now with how massive the company is now.


Austin talked about the feud with Vince McMahon. Vince said they tapped into Americana with the feud and it crossed all demos. He put over Austin for it and said that when you create you have to have a degree of common sense over how people think. He talked about the reaction people would have for someone flaunting their money and acting over others. Vince said the Austin character is really Vince on the inside, so he acted the opposite.

Vince said he enjoyed this and would do it again. Austin said they were going to keep going for his podcast. Vince said that since he owns the Network, he decreed they were going another 15 minutes.

They kept talking about the feud and Vince's lack of coordination in the ring. They talked about all the different places Vince got kicked as Austin was setting up for the Stone Cold Stunner. Vince said he isn't eloquent enough to describe what it's like to entertain the audience. Austin said it's like shooting in your veins and it's addictive.

Austin said Vince always wanted to be a wrestler but his father didn't let him. Austin put over Vince's announcing saying he could hokey and could go off the rails. Vince's dad said he couldn't be the business man and the wrestler. Later on, there's was that opportunity and it was always his dream to be a performer and he's glad he did it because it was one of the greatest thrills of his life. Austin pointed out that Vince didn't see a Superstar in him and told Vince to go back and push his locker room. He asked Vince what it was like for him to generate the sort of heat Vince had back in the day. Vince said when you use the truth and use it against them. Using that psychology, it was easy to do.

Austin talked about the St. Valentine's Day Massacre and Vince wanted to take a bump off the cage through a table. He said the way he hit the table, he had a bruise across the back of his cheeks to the back of his knees and noted he could have ended up bleeding out but looking back he wouldn't change it either.

Austin talked about his blood loss at Wrestlemania 13 and the night they did the double turn with Bret Hart. He talked about Vince giving him the finish backstage. Before they went to the ring, Bret suggested that Austin should be bleeding for that finish and Bret offered to blade him. Austin's took the idea to Vince and approved it. He talked about the no color policy and Vince's reaction to it. Vince said that he was probably a little pissed off at the time but it's not about what he wants, but what the audience wants. Vince said that when you get that reaction, yes it's against policy but you gave the audience what they wanted.

Vince was asked if he was really giving the audience what they want today when there's no competition and how fans can tell him what they wants. Vince said their future is good and they are holding up strong for ratings. Austin asked why the matches are so segmented these days and if it was short attention span theater. Vince said it's a change in society and how we text and don't have conversations anymore. He said the product can get better but he's not out of touch. Vince said he listens to the audience, not Twitter.

Austin asked Vince when he's going to ride off into the sunset. Vince said he enjoys the business now more than ever before and is healthy and works as much now as he used to. He hasn't lost a step mentally or physically and said despite what critics say, he hasn't lost touch. Vince said with NXT, the future is bright.


Props to Austin for the way he handled it.
 
There are so many posts I want to quote but I'll just speak on three that caught my eye....

The Cabana podcast with Punk is fucking awesome, two weeks later it's still the buzz in the wrestling circles, Phil gave his side of the story and it sounds right.WWE really doesnt give a damn about the long term health of wrestlers, there are some exceptions when they try to help, but most of the time they don't. One thing he said that I agree with is they need some type of union to help out the wrestlers. I was reading where Kamala had to get both of his legs taken off, but you dont hear nothing about that.... secondly how many times have Cena buried wrestlers ? Well I shouldnt say Cena because creative is doing the booking but he has enough damn pull to wear he can call his shots. Wyatt should of won at WM but WWE doesn't want Cena to lose on their big show...1 man against 3 and he still wins ???? come on man where do they do that shit at ? The best thing I saw Cena do was get his ass destroyed by Brock Lesnar...Lastly The New Day is basically the same old shit...Black wrestlers not getting a shot at shit....as much as I laugh at TNA, they at least have black wrestlers that are important in storylines and dont have them all dancing and shit...Who was the last black World Heavyweight Champion that WWE had ??? I need to get back into watching Impact Wrestling more, the storylines are better and the Knockouts are hot
 
Did you know: New Japan had a working relationship with WWF and the deal was they paid an annual $500,000 payment. In early 1985, Vince was up to his ass in debt when the payment was due, and it came in on time. Vince used the payment to clear up some of the debts to TV stations and the like that he'd been stalling with knowledge the payment was due. It was not a loan, or someone financing, but part of an ongoing business deal that dated back to Sr. Jr. did eventually cancel the deal.
 

This is a pretty interesting read off of Bleacher Report on the New Day.
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WWE's New Day Stable Will Be Limited as Trio of Babyfaces
By Alfred Konuwa , Featured Columnist Dec 2, 2014

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During a Tag Team Turmoil match on Raw, The New Day, featuring Kofi Kingston and Big E, was the second team eliminated despite making its Raw debut.

"The New Day is yesterday," announcer John Bradshaw Layfield remarked.

Despite weeks of buildup, with aforementioned members Kingston, Big E and apparent leader Xavier Woods testifying before a gospel that a new day has arrived, the team was booked no better or worse than it was before being repackaged.



Even in its first week, JBL has every right to imply that The New Day has already come and gone. Because if the concept of this stable is three happy-go-lucky babyfaces mixing and matching one-liners better suited for Zig Ziglar, this gimmick will quickly fall on deaf ears.

The wrestling world needs another fist-pumping good guy like it needs another hour of Raw. WWE seemed to be very self-aware of how cliche this concept had become with the arrival of Bo Dallas.

Dallas was a heel because of his intentionally over-the-top babyface antics. Through Dallas, not only was WWE admitting this type of character was no longer effective as a good guy, but the company was using that very fact to make him a villain.

With the three members of The New Day making their debuts as babyfaces in such proximity with the Dallas character, the trio is set up for failure. Audiences have already been conditioned to resent these archetypes to the point where WWE is now in on the joke.

What's the ceiling for three enthusiastic WWE Superstars looking to spread positivity? Is there truly room for character development through such a basic premise?

The origins of this stable date back to Woods scolding Kingston and Big E in a promo that served as a thinly veiled commentary about race.



"We do not ask any longer. Now, we take," Woods demanded of his frustrated peers. The tone of the sudden angle instantly branded the wrestlers as heels. They were angry, despondent and only interested in advancing by force. Through that incarnation there was depth, even pathos, and a story to be told.

But the unbranded stable quickly disappeared from WWE programming for months before resurfacing under a much less militant guise. Gone were the uncomfortable undertones of three salty WWE Superstars with an agenda. Now, their message is much less complicated. In the span of three vignettes, each member of The New Day went from sympathetic figure to sermon deliverer.

In the Reality Era, the most effective characters use sympathy to either garner support or antagonize an audience.

Daniel Bryan's exclusion from the main event picture begot the Yes Movement, where fans rallied behind him all the way to an improbable WWE World Heavyweight Championship win. Upon returning to WWE, The Miz admitted that despite becoming entrenched in Hollywood, he was on a mission to seize the respect and admiration that he never received after headlining WrestleMania.

If The New Day is simply going to wash away past grievances with a feel-good gimmick, where's the hook?
Why should anybody care? And with jaded fans unimpressed by babyfaces with little to offer past an inspirational quote, can The New Day really last in the present day?


source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2286322-wwes-new-day-stable-will-be-limited-as-babyfaces
 
Former WWE star CM Punk signs with UFC
By Shaun Al-Shatti @shaunalshatti on Dec 6 2014, 10:41p 3


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Former WWE champion CM Punk, aka Phillip Brooks, has inked a deal to fight in the UFC. Brooks announced the news Saturday night on UFC 181's pay-per-view.

Brooks, a student of Rener Gracie, has been flirting with mixed martial arts since departing the WWE in 2013. The 6-foot-2 wrestler is currently undecided which weight class he'll shoot for, but said on the broadcast that he'll likely target middleweight, although welterweight could be an option as well.

"This is my new career, 100-percent," said Brooks. "I'm going to go full steam ahead, all systems go after today, and it's going to be fun. I have nothing but respect for everybody here at the UFC, everybody who steps in the Octagon to fight. And when it's all said and done, when I'm finished, everybody's going to have to respect me because I have come here to fight."
 
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Former WWE star CM Punk signs with UFC
By Shaun Al-Shatti @shaunalshatti on Dec 6 2014, 10:41p 3


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Former WWE champion CM Punk, aka Phillip Brooks, has inked a deal to fight in the UFC. Brooks announced the news Saturday night on UFC 181's pay-per-view.

Brooks, a student of Rener Gracie, has been flirting with mixed martial arts since departing the WWE in 2013. The 6-foot-2 wrestler is currently undecided which weight class he'll shoot for, but said on the broadcast that he'll likely target middleweight, although welterweight could be an option as well.

"This is my new career, 100-percent," said Brooks. "I'm going to go full steam ahead, all systems go after today, and it's going to be fun. I have nothing but respect for everybody here at the UFC, everybody who steps in the Octagon to fight. And when it's all said and done, when I'm finished, everybody's going to have to respect me because I have come here to fight."

Heck even ESPN is talking about it ...

CM Punk joins UFC, will fight in 2015
Updated: December 6, 2014, 10:58 PM ET
By Brett Okamoto | ESPN.com

LAS VEGAS -- The UFC has signed former WWE professional wrestler CM Punk to fight in the Octagon.

The promotion announced the signing during its UFC 181 pay-per-view broadcast on Saturday. CM Punk, birth name Phil Brooks, is 36 years old. He has never fought professional mixed martial arts.

UFC president Dana White said Brooks intends to fight at middleweight -- 185 pounds -- but said he'd be open to possibly 170 pounds.

"He wanted to fight here," White told ESPN.com. "He wanted to give it a shot so we gave him an opportunity. It's not like Brock Lesnar. We're not going to throw the kitchen sink at him. Lesnar had a wrestling background. He's going to fight a guy who is 1-0, 1-1, 2-1 -- something like that."

White said Brooks has been training jiu-jitsu and mixed martial arts for an extended period of time.

"He's been coming to fights for a long time and after his WWE contract was up, he called me and said he wanted to give it a shot. I said, 'Alright. We'll give you a shot.' "

In addition to Lesnar, who went 5-3 over his MMA career, other WWE stars have tried their hand including Dave Bautista (1-0) and Bobby Lashley (12-2).http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/11991124/cm-punk-joins-ufc-fight-2015
 
Punk is going to get his ass kicked unless they put him in there with scrubs, like when Kimbo went to MMA. Wish him the best, but this might not end well for him.
 
Punk is going to get his ass kicked unless they put him in there with scrubs, like when Kimbo went to MMA. Wish him the best, but this might not end well for him.


my sentiments
punk is tougher than most but i cant see him competing at this level at his age.

I know Vince and em pissed and this will be just another oppurunity for UFC to establish that MMA is the real deal.

i guess we all lucky MMA wasnt big during the Takers heyday cause he might have considered making the jump
 
Punk is going to get his ass kicked unless they put him in there with scrubs, like when Kimbo went to MMA. Wish him the best, but this might not end well for him.

Well they've said that this won't be like Lesnar who got put in with very credible people from jump but a situation where he'll face newcomers and lower guys.
 
Yeah but i'd imagine even a decent low on teh roster guy would get in Punk ass. He's gonna get a nice check though. Props to him.

THis is that moment when a celebirty, wrestler or boxer goes into a sport that they aren't familiar with and it ends up playing in their True Hollywood Story the day they get their ass kicked and their reputation and name was tarnished. Or it could carry on his legend. I hope its the latter.
 
my sentiments
punk is tougher than most but i cant see him competing at this level at his age.

I know Vince and em pissed and this will be just another oppurunity for UFC to establish that MMA is the real deal.

i guess we all lucky MMA wasnt big during the Takers heyday cause he might have considered making the jump

He has some training (kenpo, BJJ) but he's going to be at a tough weight class.

 
Yeah but i'd imagine even a decent low on teh roster guy would get in Punk ass. He's gonna get a nice check though. Props to him.

THis is that moment when a celebirty, wrestler or boxer goes into a sport that they aren't familiar with and it ends up playing in their True Hollywood Story the day they get their ass kicked and their reputation and name was tarnished. Or it could carry on his legend. I hope its the latter.

Punk's in trouble. Years of training with no fight experience against a lower tier guy with years of training and plenty of fight experience. Someone's about to get their name made out of beating on a "fake rassler".

Did you know: New Japan had a working relationship with WWF and the deal was they paid an annual $500,000 payment. In early 1985, Vince was up to his ass in debt when the payment was due, and it came in on time. Vince used the payment to clear up some of the debts to TV stations and the like that he'd been stalling with knowledge the payment was due. It was not a loan, or someone financing, but part of an ongoing business deal that dated back to Sr. Jr. did eventually cancel the deal.

Didn't know it but I knew WWF and New Japan used to have a working deal. One of those 8 titles Ultimo Dragon used to run around with and defend in WCW was the WWF light heavyweight title.
Inoki is recognized in Japan as having defeated Bob Backlund for the WWF title.


This is a pretty interesting read off of Bleacher Report on the New Day.
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source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2286322-wwes-new-day-stable-will-be-limited-as-babyfaces

Interesting.
 
Watching NXT and Finn Balor came out there like the end boss to a Dreamcast game.

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