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ULTIMATE WARRIOR FIRES BACK AT JAKE ROBERTS OVER WWE HALL OF FAME COMMENTS
by Mike Johnson @ 9:09 AM on 1/21/2014

Jake Roberts appeared on satellite radio wrestling discussion series "Busted Open" earlier this week and made the following comments about the newest member of the WWE Hall of Fame, The Ultimate Warrior:
"I know, man! I know that [their careers can't be compared]. But maybe they’re taking in a**holes and not great talent. I don’t know."

Warrior, never one to bite his tongue, responded via Twitter, writing, ""Question for former talents now 'hypocrite' born-again Christians. Where do we go to find you practicing the beliefs of Christianity? Hell?" Warrior tweeted. "One a-hole instills honor and pride, The other horror and pity. One grows wise on great stories. One reads bathroom stalls and still grovels."


JAKE ROBERTS ISSUES APOLOGY TO ULTIMATE WARRIOR
by Mike Johnson @ 6:08 PM on 1/21/2014

Jake Roberts issued the following apology to The Ultimate Warrior regarding remarks he made about Warrior's WWE Hall of Fame induction on the Busted Open Satellite radio show a few days ago:
"My guys showed me Warrior's tweets. I was trying to be entertaining with the radio show and took things too far, like I do too often. I have no business inferring anything negative about him. I apologize. He deserves the HOF and respect for what he accomplished in the business. But let me be clear. There is no hypocrisy here. I am not preaching anything. I am sharing my recovery path to show others what is possible. So no pity, bathrooms stalls or groveling. I am doing great. I am an addict and alcoholic working every single day to repair and make the best out of the life I have left. I make mistakes, like that comment, but my recovery has been amazing. Jim does not know this Jake. Without realizing or intending to, I fired the first shot and will take Jim's response without any negativity towards him. I apologize and am putting behind me."


At least someone took the fucking high road.
Warrior had every right to fire back but must he always go gutter first? When your first punch is that low, how do you follow it up, especially when you have your own shit that someone can throw back in your face?
For a guy who made so much money but did so little, he's incredibly thin skinned.
 
Xavier Woods got squashed by Fandango.

What the fuck? So he's got no push. But Broadus Clay, who they turned, isn't getting a push either because he's still doing jobs.

:smh:

Cena waited all night to get there and kick the ass of the guy who beat up his dad.
Who writes this shit? At least give a reason why he's so late (and in his gear).

Kofi needs a real win over somebody, anybody at this point. He got some cheap ones on Orton, cool. But if they have any plans for him, and I don't think they do, he can't go back to trading wins with the Miz.

See the Usos, that's what happens when they book guys well. They haven't gotten any better in the last 4 yrs, they're just not presented as losers and people are taking to them.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Cena waited all night to get there and kick the ass of the guy who beat up his dad.
Who writes this shit? At least give a reason why he's so late (and in his gear).
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For whatever reason, I get a good laugh out of that every time. WCW used to do that shit nearly every week. Show a wrestler pull up in a car backstage, hop out the car, and they're already wearing their wrestling trunks and boots. :lol: Like, "motherfucker, did you leave the house dressed like that?"

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Simply Sickenin' said:

For whatever reason, I get a good laugh out of that every time. WCW used to do that shit nearly every week. Show a wrestler pull up in a car backstage, hop out the car, and they're already wearing their wrestling trunks and boots. :lol: Like, "motherfucker, did you leave the house dressed like that?"

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:lol::lol::lol:
And Cena is the worst at it. I know Vince likes his wrestlers in gear on tv for the most part (some latent gay tendencies if you ask me) but at least Punk and Orton have been on tv in real clothes.
This nigga Cena is always in his jean shorts and knee and elbow pads like he ain't got shit else to wear.
 
Simply Sickenin' said:

For whatever reason, I get a good laugh out of that every time. WCW used to do that shit nearly every week. Show a wrestler pull up in a car backstage, hop out the car, and they're already wearing their wrestling trunks and boots. :lol: Like, "motherfucker, did you leave the house dressed like that?"

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:lol::lol::lol:
 
Again
Once the chatter stopped, Impact! got pretty good again. At least this time, the chatter was only 15 minutes and not 30 and it advanced that night's stories and future stories.
That video with the Wolves was intense and made them look like someone people need to see. Much better intro than last week.

I knocked WWE for Cena running around in his gear so TNA gets it too. Why was EC3 in full gear and all he was doing was a run-in? He really needed to dress down (and oil up:rolleyes:) to interfere in a match?
 
Rollie_Fingaz said:
True, but it really didn't blow up until this date. Verne should have put the title on him when he had the chance.
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:yes:

By being a dick, Verne slit his own throat and gave Vince the guy he needed to kill everyone else.


This guy was even more important than Mae Young so he deserves some time for his passing.

FORMER WWF AND WCW BOOKER GEORGE SCOTT PASSES AWAY
by Mike Johnson @ 9:12 AM on 1/21/2014


George Scott, who wrestling extensively in the Carolinas before becoming the booker for Mid-Atlantic Wrestling, the WWF, the early era of WCW and World Class Championship Wrestling passed away yesterday. He was 85 at the time of his passing.

Although born in Scotland, Scott grew in Ontario, Canada and began training for the business in his late teens. Local territory stars Mike and Ben Sharpe were neighbors and that became Scott's in into the business, making his professional debut at the age of just 17.

Scott was an up and coming babyface working in several territories in the United States and Canada early in his career until suffering several herniated discs during a bout with Buddy Rogers, often credited to a stiff kick Rogers gave him.

Scott was told surgery was the easiest option but it would have likely ended his career, so he chose not to do the surgery, putting him out of the ring for a long period of time.

Scott would eventually return to the ring and became a top draw for Stu Hart's Stampede Wrestling in the 1950s, breaking his brother Angus into the business. Angus, known professionally as Sandy Scott, and George were quickly christened the Flying Scotts, feuding with The Vachons and the Tolos Brothers over the promotion's NWA Canadian Tag Team Championship. The duo were a huge draw for the promotion at the time.

When the brothers had a legitimate fallout of a family matter, George headed to Texas and worked for the precursor of World Class Championship Wrestling, feuding with Johnny Valentine. The feud was kicked off by an angle where Valentine attacked Scott, ripped his clothes off and ran him into the ringpost, busting him open. Valentine, one to always lay it in, ended up legitimately hurting Scott to sell the angle, requiring a short hospital stay.

Scott would eventually return to Stampede as a singles competitor as well. During that return, Scott would begin to take part in the booking of the shows, showing an immediate aptitude for that aspect of the business. He would soon take a similar apprenticeship role while working for Jim Crockett Promotions. After suffering another neck injury in the early 1970s, Scott retired from the ring and began working exclusively on the creative side of professional wrestling.

When Jim Crockett Sr. passed away, he had decreed that John Ringley, his son-in-law, take over the promotion. Ringley would bring in Scott as the booker of Mid-Atlantic Wrestling. As it turned out, he would outlast Ringley in the promotion as Crockett's sons, Jim Jr. and David, soon assumed control under allegations that Ringley had strayed from his marriage to Francis Crockett.

At the time, Mid-Atlantic had been a promotion that built around tag team rivalries. Scott "broke down" the promotion in order to rebuild it around singles competitors. He brought in Johnny Valentine to build the promotion around and handpicked a young crop of talent from elsewhere including Ricky Steamboat, Paul Orndorff, Jimmy Snuka, Roddy Piper and Ric Flair.

It was Scott who booked the first Flair vs. Steamboat matches, a rivalry that would go on to become the measuring stick for great, athletic professional wrestling bouts.

When Crockett bought into the Tunney family's promotion in Canada, Scott became a partner, allowing for international talent to come into The Crocketts territory and sending Flair, Steamboat, etc. to Toronto for the first time. This continued until Frank Tunney passed on, with his nephew Jack instead selling to Vince McMahon and becoming the figurehead President of the World Wrestling Federation. Scott sued Tunney for selling without his permission and eventually won a court judgment worth nearly $600,000.

Scott left Crockett Promotions in the early 1980s over a pay issue and bounced around for a bit, turning down an offer to become a partner in what was designed to be the first legitimately national promotion, Eddie Einhorn's International Wrestling Association. Scott looked into buying into several different NWA territories at the time, including Oklahoma.

Then WWF came calling. It was 1983 and Vince McMahon was poised to take over the wrestling world. Vince McMahon Sr. had just sold his promotion to his son and called Scott to assist Vince Jr. Scott signed on and was involved in the WWE buyout of Georgia Championship Wrestling and Stampede Wrestling, the latter of which was later rescinded.

Scott also began promoting local events for WWF in Florida and recognizing his talents, Vince Jr. brought him on to help book the promotion. He was heavily involved in the booking of the first Wrestlemania and with negotiating with Mr. T and others who came on board to work the show. Steamboat, considered one of Scott's proteges, was soon hired by the company as well.

As the WWF business began to change towards more spectacle and campiness, Scott became disenfranchised with the direction. He and Hulk Hogan had issues at one point over backstage etiquette and visitors. Scott at the time became concerned about the drug use by talent in the company and had pushed for testing as well as for a tighter locker room, feeling that the wrestlers, amped up by their fame, were allowing the wrong crowd into the locker rooms. Hogan was THE man at that point and when he complained about it to Vince McMahon, Scott lost political points.

Scott's arguments also fell on deaf ears when he fought against the presentation of the WWF Saturday Night's Main Event specials, feeling they were silly and exposed the business, as opposed to treated the industry with respect. When the ratings came in, he lost more power as the hard numbers showed that the direction Vince McMahon and NBC's Dick Ebersol wanted was the right one, at least in the moment when it came to ratings.

Scott warned McMahon the direction could kill the business by exposing it and when McMahon chose not to listen to him, Scott quit, citing the stress and the workload of a national promotion. He had come from a world where the promoter let the booker have the final word, but in WWF, Vince was the final word and Scott exited.

In many ways, Scott's been forgotten by WWE history, as he is rarely acknowledged and was never called upon by WWE to take part in historical interviews or features. With his passing, a lesson that should be learned here by WWE is to reach out to older talents who might have deep insight into the unique cornerstones of the business so their views and memories can be recorded for future use on projects.

Scott bounced around booking a number of different promotions, including a short run in World Class Championship Wrestling.

When Ted Turner purchased Crockett Promotions, Dusty Rhodes was removed as the booker of what was now WCW (although still referred to as the National Wrestling Alliance at the time). Scott was brought in as the booker and went right back to what he knew best, luring Ricky Steamboat out of retirement as a mystery partner with Eddie Gilbert against Ric Flair and Barry Windham. Flair was pinned by Steamboat with a flying bodypress and the two rivals were back off to the races.

The two would have a trilogy of matches, two on PPV and one live on a Clash of Champions special that was opposite Wrestlemania V, that would become the measuring stick. Unfortunately for Scott, he would be gone by the time the program was concluded. When it came time for the Clash to be promoted, Scott downplayed the fact it would be airing live on TBS, feeling that the company giving away its best matches would kill the live house shows. His outlook made logical sense but it was a different era where the TV ratings for a promotion owned by a cable network were just as, if not more important. It was Scott's miscalculation that ended up with him being removed and replaced by a booking committee of Ric Flair, Jim Cornette, Kevin Sullivan and more, kicking off a great 1989 for WCW, at least in terms of match quality and angles.

Scott would eventually promote The Carolinas under the South Atlantic Pro Wrestling (SAPW) banner before retiring to Florida.

Scott would make a few rare appearances in the business from time to time, including the annual Charlotte Fanfest, but for the most part had left the business behind.

Scott had been in ill health for some time before his passing.
 
Rocky Miavia said:
FUCK HIM!!! :angry::angry::angry:


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Jimmy can pass for a light skinned brotha though. Paul Mooney once said Somoans are "Some mo-niggas". At least she did not marry a white dude.
 
if only they had JR doing commentary on the Show/Lesnar match..

"AS GOD AS MY WITNESS THAT CHAIR IS BROKEN IN HALF!"

"MY GAWD,STOP THIS!! HE HAS A FAMILY DAMMIT!!"

"HE'S A HUMAN BEING!!!" :roflmao2:
 
Random thoughts after the Rumble...

Fans want Bryan to be a star, like face of the company star and the WWE is doing everything but making him that star:confused:. Fans were pissed that he wasn't apart of the rumble itself and clearly turned on everyone including Batista who they think is so over he was to be main event.

Roman did his thing during the rumble and next to winning it he was basically showcased during the match more than anyone.

Why does WWE think fans want to see wasted rumble slots go to comedy bits:smh:

Fans in general do not care about Orton or Cena in the same ring

Kofi is the new Shelton Benjamin..

They'll never do it but the real face and top heel in this company is Lesner. If they really wanted to be different they'd put the title on him. I know he wouldn't work every ppv or even be on raw every week but he'd bring an extra level of appeal to not only the title but to anyone who he'd face for it.

This years Wrestlemania just based on what they'll use as a main event isn't looking that good...
 
SadButTrue82 said:
Random thoughts after the Rumble...

Fans want Bryan to be a star, like face of the company star and the WWE is doing everything but making him that star:confused:. Fans were pissed that he wasn't apart of the rumble itself and clearly turned on everyone including Batista who they think is so over he was to be main event.

Roman did his thing during the rumble and next to winning it he was basically showcased during the match more than anyone.

Why does WWE think fans want to see wasted rumble slots go to comedy bits:smh:

Fans in general do not care about Orton or Cena in the same ring

Kofi is the new Shelton Benjamin..

They'll never do it but the real face and top heel in this company is Lesner. If they really wanted to be different they'd put the title on him. I know he wouldn't work every ppv or even be on raw every week but he'd bring an extra level of appeal to not only the title but to anyone who he'd face for it.

This years Wrestlemania just based on what they'll use as a main event isn't looking that good...
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Yeah Roman did his thing, I thought he was gonna eliminate Batista. I was also look for Daniel Bryan in the Rumble match.
 
Roman Reigns was MADE tonight. The crowd shitted on Batista and all he could say was, "Deal with it!"

As for DBry:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>They try to keep US down and away from the top spots, but they can’t ignore the reactions forever. Keep voicing your opinions. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YESMovement&amp;src=hash">#YESMovement</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/statuses/427650194595782656">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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SadButTrue82 said:
Random thoughts after the Rumble...

Fans want Bryan to be a star, like face of the company star and the WWE is doing everything but making him that star:confused:. Fans were pissed that he wasn't apart of the rumble itself and clearly turned on everyone including Batista who they think is so over he was to be main event.

Roman did his thing during the rumble and next to winning it he was basically showcased during the match more than anyone.

Why does WWE think fans want to see wasted rumble slots go to comedy bits:smh:

Fans in general do not care about Orton or Cena in the same ring

Kofi is the new Shelton Benjamin..

They'll never do it but the real face and top heel in this company is Lesner. If they really wanted to be different they'd put the title on him. I know he wouldn't work every ppv or even be on raw every week but he'd bring an extra level of appeal to not only the title but to anyone who he'd face for it.

This years Wrestlemania just based on what they'll use as a main event isn't looking that good...
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Rollie_Fingaz said:
Roman Reigns was MADE tonight. The crowd shitted on Batista and all he could say was, "Deal with it!"

As for DBry:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>They try to keep US down and away from the top spots, but they can’t ignore the reactions forever. Keep voicing your opinions. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YESMovement&amp;src=hash">#YESMovement</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/statuses/427650194595782656">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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They just don't seem to learn. DB is hands down the most over cat they have, but they keep shittin on him. Roman Reigns should have won the rumble. I have 0 interest in seeing Batista. :smh: They droppin the ball left and right.
 
Nochturnal said:
They just don't seem to learn. DB is hands down the most over cat they have, but they keep shittin on him. Roman Reigns should have won the rumble. I have 0 interest in seeing Batista. :smh: They droppin the ball left and right.
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These are all reasons why I won't watch this shit like I used to.

Everytime I make time to actually watch WWE I end up regretting it.
 
That was a shitty, PREDICTABLE ass Royal Rumble. :smh::smh:

The ppl was Pissed at that bullshit outcome. God, I'm glad I don't pay to watch this shit.
 
Nochturnal said:
They just don't seem to learn. DB is hands down the most over cat they have, but they keep shittin on him. Roman Reigns should have won the rumble. I have 0 interest in seeing Batista. :smh: They droppin the ball left and right.
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This is probably why while I read reports about the shows I haven't watched a Raw in 2 months or a Smackdown for even longer than that. The only show I watch is NXT cause it isn't the same old we're going to shove who we want down your throat screw who you want mentality.

I figured at the final 3 that Sheamus would win. Seems like they're going with a Shield thing for Mania and I hoped that they wouldn't be dumb enough to have Batista win.
 
sturmars said:
That was a shitty, PREDICTABLE ass Royal Rumble. :smh::smh:

The ppl was Pissed at that bullshit outcome. God, I'm glad I don't pay to watch this shit.
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Foley agrees with you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Does <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> actually hate their own audience? I've never been so disgusted with a PPV.</p>&mdash; Mick Foley (@realmickfoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/realmickfoley/statuses/427649348693147649">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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ThaBurgerPimp said:
Foley agrees with you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Does <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> actually hate their own audience? I've never been so disgusted with a PPV.</p>&mdash; Mick Foley (@realmickfoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/realmickfoley/statuses/427649348693147649">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Wow
 
:smh:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Sorry guys, the machine wanted me nowhere near the Royal Rumble match. But I thank everyone for their support. YOU are the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YESMovement&amp;src=hash">#YESMovement</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/statuses/427648471122731008">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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c_commander said:
This is probably why while I read reports about the shows I haven't watched a Raw in 2 months or a Smackdown for even longer than that. The only show I watch is NXT cause it isn't the same old we're going to shove who we want down your throat screw who you want mentality.

I figured at the final 3 that Sheamus would win. Seems like they're going with a Shield thing for Mania and I hoped that they wouldn't be dumb enough to have Batista win.
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sad thing is you can basically name half the Mania lineup just from tonight's shitty show...

Cena/ Bray
Batista/ Orton
Punk/ Kane ( or HHH )
Undertaker's next victim ( Bryan ?? )

the tag titles wont be on the main show probably on the preshow, its kind of cool seeing the New Age Outlaws again
 
ThaBurgerPimp said:
Foley agrees with you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Does <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> actually hate their own audience? I've never been so disgusted with a PPV.</p>&mdash; Mick Foley (@realmickfoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/realmickfoley/statuses/427649348693147649">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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:smh: Vince don't care about the fans and he forgets that without fans his business will die. That "WWE network" launch is next month, let him keep pissing the fans off and that shit will flop just like the XFL :lol::lol:
 
They should've called an audible

They had a little rest period when Kane chokeslammed Punk

They should've had an official just rundown and tell Batista and Reigns to do the opposite of the ending
 
The Pope said:
sad thing is you can basically name half the Mania lineup just from tonight's shitty show...

Cena/ Bray
Batista/ Orton
Punk/ Kane ( or HHH )
Undertaker's next victim ( Bryan ?? )

the tag titles wont be on the main show probably on the preshow, its kind of cool seeing the New Age Outlaws again
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they just going to drop the belts to the Usos anway..

as for Batista winning now he'll have extra incentive while promoting this

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Nochturnal said:
:smh:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Sorry guys, the machine wanted me nowhere near the Royal Rumble match. But I thank everyone for their support. YOU are the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23YESMovement&amp;src=hash">#YESMovement</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Bryan (@WWEDanielBryan) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/statuses/427648471122731008">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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The funny thing is Bryan staying with the Wyatt gimmick would have worked out cause he's basically calling out the machine that is the WWE. He and Wyatt could have been the anti establishment guys trying to win and fight against the corporate machine who would rather put a washed up Batista in the main event at their biggest show instead of giving him a shot. Bryan and Wyatt could have had the potential to be huge, instead Bryan loses to Wyatt and has nothing going for him heading into the the big show.

I also wonder if guys in the back dislike Batistas push...I remember reading stroies how they hated The Rock coming back and getting the main event spot, gotta wonder they're more pissed now at Batista, seeing as the guy only shows up the week before the rumble and wins the thing and he doesn't have the fan fare as other top guys.
 
ThaBurgerPimp said:
Foley agrees with you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Does <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> actually hate their own audience? I've never been so disgusted with a PPV.</p>&mdash; Mick Foley (@realmickfoley) <a href="https://twitter.com/realmickfoley/statuses/427649348693147649">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I just want to hear their reasoning for giving fans the exact opposite of what they want.

They clearly know what the fans want. And the fans know that they'll eventually give what they want. But WWE just insists on stringing them along for months and months as if they benefit from it somehow. I just want to know why.
 
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