I kind of agree with him on the Savage/Steamboat match, i mean the build up was some of the greatest work of all time but the match was a bit overrated imo.


I disagree. It was the two best wrestlers in the company, working fast and hard and putting on a different type of match than normal WWF fare of the day. I've never been a fan of Steele's interference at the end but it's still a great match and fun to watch. Both guys would have better matches with Ric Flair later.

What you guys think of this shit.



I've never thought much of their music but they've always had a lot of respect for wrestling and their Juggalo shows are some of the best paying on the indie circuit.
 
I disagree. It was the two best wrestlers in the company, working fast and hard and putting on a different type of match than normal WWF fare of the day. I've never been a fan of Steele's interference at the end but it's still a great match and fun to watch. Both guys would have better matches with Ric Flair later.



I've never thought much of their music but they've always had a lot of respect for wrestling and their Juggalo shows are some of the best paying on the indie circuit.

I agree on both counts
 
Yea I don't really know what to say about that Chris Benoit joint. I actually enjoyed their video. I always hated them cats. I don't know if it was their little "juggalo movement" or what but never cared for them. I sat through that whole Chris Benoit video though so I Guess that says something.
 
I disagree. It was the two best wrestlers in the company, working fast and hard and putting on a different type of match than normal WWF fare of the day. I've never been a fan of Steele's interference at the end but it's still a great match and fun to watch. Both guys would have better matches with Ric Flair later.

Personally i prefer Flair/Steamboat from wrestlewar 89.
 
Yea I don't really know what to say about that Chris Benoit joint. I actually enjoyed their video. I always hated them cats. I don't know if it was their little "juggalo movement" or what but never cared for them. I sat through that whole Chris Benoit video though so I Guess that says something.

I did the same thing. Its an entertaining video that makes you keep watching.
I've never been a fan but that Juggalo shit has a diehard fanbase, like the KISS Army.

Personally i prefer Flair/Steamboat from wrestlewar 89.

Oh, hell yeah. I end up going back and forth between the WrestleWar match and the Clash of the Champions match. As long as I had been watching Ric Flair, I couldn't remember single time he had ever submitted so when Dragon did in New Orleans, I was :eek:.
 
I did the same thing. Its an entertaining video that makes you keep watching.
I've never been a fan but that Juggalo shit has a diehard fanbase, like the KISS Army.



Oh, hell yeah. I end up going back and forth between the WrestleWar match and the Clash of the Champions match. As long as I had been watching Ric Flair, I couldn't remember single time he had ever submitted so when Dragon did in New Orleans, I was :eek:.

I have a phobia of clowns so that juggalo crap was lost on me, i knew people in school who treated that shit like a religion and they were some socially retarded people:smh:

As for Flair & Steamboat i thought it was cool how they "locked up" one more time at the 09 HOF Ceremony:yes: But im sure the some of the bandwagon fans in attendance didn't understand:smh:
 
I have a phobia of clowns so that juggalo crap was lost on me, i knew people in school who treated that shit like a religion and they were some socially retarded people:smh:


:lol::lol::lol:Them Juggalo kids be some weird muhfuckas and they get weirder as they get older.

As for Flair & Steamboat i thought it was cool how they "locked up" one more time at the 09 HOF Ceremony:yes: But im sure the some of the bandwagon fans in attendance didn't understand:smh:

You know they didn't.
When they still had Flair, they should have done one more match between those two, especially seeing how good Steamboat looked after a decade+ long layoff. They couldn't hope to match the 89 matches or even 94 matches (which were excellent) but it still would have been good.
 
Has it been 60 days already ???? .....


NoDQ.com > WWE > Orton's Drug Suspension Ends, Changes To SD Shows
Posted by Steve Carrier on 07/29/2012 at 04:55 PM

Randy Orton's 60-day suspension for his second violation of WWE's Talent Wellness Program has ended—suspended effective May 30. He returns imminently as he is scheduled for Monday's Raw in Cincinnati, Ohio and Tuesday's SmackDown taping in Indianapolis, Indiana.

According to F4WOnline.com, his suspension stemmed from a positive drug test for elevated levels of testosterone. He reportedly told people that he took a tainted supplement containing the testosterone, causing him to fail, and acknowledged that he should have been more careful. WWE chief Vince McMahon was said to have been livid with Orton over the matter, particularly since he was so "outspokenly indifferent."

Orton's suspension caused a ripple effect on SmackDown as John Cena, Triple H, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were shifted to several shows this summer to alleviate the brand's lack of star power. Punk and Bryan will resume their feud at Raw live events beginning this weekend while Cena will cease making special appearances following SmackDown broadcasts in three weeks. Triple H will continue to make special appearances on SmackDown until further notice.
 
Times flies.
I've read he's been advertised locally for Smackdown and SummerSlam so I see them throwing together a quickie feud for him.
They should put him in with Ziggler and have Ziggler go over.
 
I'm in here for 1 reaon and 1 reason only right now. I am pissed! I waited for Mark Henry to comeback and be a monster heel and a good monster heel he was! But WTF,he's nowhere to be found.. what is the WWE doing or planning to do with Mark!?!


/rant done
 
I'm in here for 1 reaon and 1 reason only right now. I am pissed! I waited for Mark Henry to comeback and be a monster heel and a good monster heel he was! But WTF,he's nowhere to be found.. what is the WWE doing or planning to do with Mark!?!


/rant done

He hurt his knee pretty badly and had surgery. He's said if he could rehab it and come back at full strength, he would but if he couldn't, he was going to retire. No new updates in a while so I guess he's still resting.
 
'50 Greatest Finishing Moves In WWE History’ DVD List

WWE is releasing the The 50 Greatest Finishing Moves in WWE History DVD & Blu-ray on August 21st. Here is the listing for the set…

DISC ONE:

50. JBL – Clothesline
49. Vader – Vader Bomb
48. Dusty Rhodes – Bionic Elbow
47. Million Dollar Man – Million Dollar Dream
46. Kerry Von Erich – Iron Claw
45. Ravishing Rick Rude – Rude Awakening
44. Lex Luger – Torture Rack
43. Dudley Boyz – 3-D
42. Bam Bam Bigelow – Moonsault
41. DDP – Diamond Cutter
40. Mankind – Mandible Claw / Socko
39. Honky Tonk Man – Shake Rattle and Roll
38. Yokozuna – Bonzai Drop
37. Flash Funk – 450 Splash
36. Sting – Scorpion Lock
35. Lita – Moonsault
34. Kevin Nash – Jack-knife
33. Jerry The King Lawler – Piledriver
32. RVD – Five-Star Frog Splash
31. Big Show – Chokeslam
30. CM Punk – GTS
29. Brock Lesnar – F-5
28. Bob Backlund – Chicken Wing
27. Batista – Batista Bomb
26. Mr. Perfect – Perfect Plex
25. Kurt Angle – Ankle Lock
24. Chris Jericho – Lion Tamer / Walls of Jericho
23. Edge – Spear
22. Iron Sheik – Camel Clutch
21. John Cena – Attitude Adjustment
20. Scott Hall – Razors Edge
19. Goldberg – Jackhammer
18. Rey Mysterio – 6-1-9
17. Road Warriors – Doomsday Device
16. Bruno Sammartino – Bearhug
15. Sgt. Slaughter – Cobra Clutch
14. Jeff Hardy – Swanton Bomb
13. Eddie Guerrero – Frog Splash
12. Macho Man Randy Savage – Elbow off Top Rope
11. Randy Orton – RKO
10. Bret Hitman Hart – Sharpshooter
9. Jimmy Superfly Snuka – Superfly Splash
8. Nature Boy Ric Flair – Figure Four Leg Lock
7. Hulk Hogan – Leg Drop
6. Shawn Michaels – Sweet Chin Music
5. Jake The Snake Roberts – DDT
4. The Rock – Rock Bottom / Peoples Elbow
3. Triple H – Pedigree
2. Undertaker – Tombstone Piledriver
1. Stone Cold Steve Austin – Stunner

Bonus: Booker T – Spinarooni
Bonus: John Morrison – Starship Pain
Bonus: Scotty Too Hotty – The Worm
Bonus: Rikishi – Stinkface
Bonus: Shane McMahon – Coast to Coast
Bonus: Billy Kidman – Shooting Star Press

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/wwe/wwe-news/50-greatest-finishing-moves-in-wwe-history-dvd-list/
 
'50 Greatest Finishing Moves In WWE History’ DVD List

WWE is releasing the The 50 Greatest Finishing Moves in WWE History DVD & Blu-ray on August 21st. Here is the listing for the set…

DISC ONE:

50. JBL – Clothesline
49. Vader – Vader Bomb
48. Dusty Rhodes – Bionic Elbow
47. Million Dollar Man – Million Dollar Dream
46. Kerry Von Erich – Iron Claw
45. Ravishing Rick Rude – Rude Awakening
44. Lex Luger – Torture Rack
43. Dudley Boyz – 3-D
42. Bam Bam Bigelow – Moonsault
41. DDP – Diamond Cutter
40. Mankind – Mandible Claw / Socko
39. Honky Tonk Man – Shake Rattle and Roll
38. Yokozuna – Bonzai Drop
37. Flash Funk – 450 Splash
36. Sting – Scorpion Lock
35. Lita – Moonsault
34. Kevin Nash – Jack-knife
33. Jerry The King Lawler – Piledriver
32. RVD – Five-Star Frog Splash
31. Big Show – Chokeslam
30. CM Punk – GTS
29. Brock Lesnar – F-5
28. Bob Backlund – Chicken Wing
27. Batista – Batista Bomb
26. Mr. Perfect – Perfect Plex
25. Kurt Angle – Ankle Lock
24. Chris Jericho – Lion Tamer / Walls of Jericho
23. Edge – Spear
22. Iron Sheik – Camel Clutch
21. John Cena – Attitude Adjustment
20. Scott Hall – Razors Edge
19. Goldberg – Jackhammer
18. Rey Mysterio – 6-1-9
17. Road Warriors – Doomsday Device
16. Bruno Sammartino – Bearhug
15. Sgt. Slaughter – Cobra Clutch
14. Jeff Hardy – Swanton Bomb
13. Eddie Guerrero – Frog Splash
12. Macho Man Randy Savage – Elbow off Top Rope
11. Randy Orton – RKO
10. Bret Hitman Hart – Sharpshooter
9. Jimmy Superfly Snuka – Superfly Splash
8. Nature Boy Ric Flair – Figure Four Leg Lock
7. Hulk Hogan – Leg Drop
6. Shawn Michaels – Sweet Chin Music
5. Jake The Snake Roberts – DDT
4. The Rock – Rock Bottom / Peoples Elbow
3. Triple H – Pedigree
2. Undertaker – Tombstone Piledriver
1. Stone Cold Steve Austin – Stunner

Bonus: Booker T – Spinarooni
Bonus: John Morrison – Starship Pain
Bonus: Scotty Too Hotty – The Worm
Bonus: Rikishi – Stinkface
Bonus: Shane McMahon – Coast to Coast
Bonus: Billy Kidman – Shooting Star Press

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/wwe/wwe-news/50-greatest-finishing-moves-in-wwe-history-dvd-list/

Oh come on now!! Pedigree over Rock Bottom/People's elbow??

And :lol: @ Dave I love Mark Henry especially as a Heel! I pick him in WWe 12 every chance I get almost as much as my custom zeus character
 
Oh come on now!! Pedigree over Rock Bottom/People's elbow??

And :lol: @ Dave I love Mark Henry especially as a Heel! I pick him in WWe 12 every chance I get almost as much as my custom zeus character

I don't have a problem with the list. Not that I think it's perfect but its the most subjective of all subjective lists. I'm just glad the Cobra isn't on the list.
Including the Honorable Mentions, some of those aren't even finishers.

Henry was a beast to the point where he was starting to get cheers. He's the first really strong heel they've had in years.
 
'50 Greatest Finishing Moves In WWE History’ DVD List

WWE is releasing the The 50 Greatest Finishing Moves in WWE History DVD & Blu-ray on August 21st. Here is the listing for the set…

DISC ONE:

50. JBL – Clothesline
49. Vader – Vader Bomb
48. Dusty Rhodes – Bionic Elbow
47. Million Dollar Man – Million Dollar Dream
46. Kerry Von Erich – Iron Claw
45. Ravishing Rick Rude – Rude Awakening
44. Lex Luger – Torture Rack
43. Dudley Boyz – 3-D
42. Bam Bam Bigelow – Moonsault
41. DDP – Diamond Cutter
40. Mankind – Mandible Claw / Socko
39. Honky Tonk Man – Shake Rattle and Roll
38. Yokozuna – Bonzai Drop
37. Flash Funk – 450 Splash
36. Sting – Scorpion Lock
35. Lita – Moonsault
34. Kevin Nash – Jack-knife
33. Jerry The King Lawler – Piledriver
32. RVD – Five-Star Frog Splash
31. Big Show – Chokeslam
30. CM Punk – GTS
29. Brock Lesnar – F-5
28. Bob Backlund – Chicken Wing
27. Batista – Batista Bomb
26. Mr. Perfect – Perfect Plex
25. Kurt Angle – Ankle Lock
24. Chris Jericho – Lion Tamer / Walls of Jericho
23. Edge – Spear
22. Iron Sheik – Camel Clutch
21. John Cena – Attitude Adjustment
20. Scott Hall – Razors Edge
19. Goldberg – Jackhammer
18. Rey Mysterio – 6-1-9
17. Road Warriors – Doomsday Device
16. Bruno Sammartino – Bearhug
15. Sgt. Slaughter – Cobra Clutch
14. Jeff Hardy – Swanton Bomb
13. Eddie Guerrero – Frog Splash
12. Macho Man Randy Savage – Elbow off Top Rope
11. Randy Orton – RKO
10. Bret Hitman Hart – Sharpshooter
9. Jimmy Superfly Snuka – Superfly Splash
8. Nature Boy Ric Flair – Figure Four Leg Lock
7. Hulk Hogan – Leg Drop
6. Shawn Michaels – Sweet Chin Music
5. Jake The Snake Roberts – DDT
4. The Rock – Rock Bottom / Peoples Elbow
3. Triple H – Pedigree
2. Undertaker – Tombstone Piledriver
1. Stone Cold Steve Austin – Stunner

Bonus: Booker T – Spinarooni
Bonus: John Morrison – Starship Pain
Bonus: Scotty Too Hotty – The Worm
Bonus: Rikishi – Stinkface
Bonus: Shane McMahon – Coast to Coast
Bonus: Billy Kidman – Shooting Star Press

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/wwe/wwe-news/50-greatest-finishing-moves-in-wwe-history-dvd-list/

So the RKO is 30 spots better than the Diamond Cutter? :smh:

The Pedigree is too high and Macho Man's Elbow Drop is too low.

Fuck Big Show's chokeslam and moves like the F-5, The Million Dollar Dream and 5 Star Frogsplash should be higher.
 
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Oh come on now!! Pedigree over Rock Bottom/People's elbow??

And :lol: @ Dave I love Mark Henry especially as a Heel! I pick him in WWe 12 every chance I get almost as much as my custom zeus character

I don't have a problem with the list. Not that I think it's perfect but its the most subjective of all subjective lists. I'm just glad the Cobra isn't on the list.
Including the Honorable Mentions, some of those aren't even finishers.

Henry was a beast to the point where he was starting to get cheers. He's the first really strong heel they've had in years.
 
So the RKO is 30 spots better than the Diamond Cutter? :smh:

The Pedigree is too high and Macho Man's Elbow Drop is too low.

Fuck Big Show's chokeslam and moves like the F-5, The Million Dollar Dream and 5 Star Frogsplash should be higher.

This is what I mean by subjective. I would say Show's Chokeslam should be very high and higher than the F-5 and 5 Star Frogsplash because he's beaten more guys over a longer period of time with it than either Brock or RVD with their moves.
 
This is what I mean by subjective. I would say Show's Chokeslam should be very high and higher than the F-5 and 5 Star Frogsplash because he's beaten more guys over a longer period of time with it than either Brock or RVD with their moves.

True but that would be attributed only to longevity in the company and my thing with the chokeslam is that it has been used as a finisher by multiple within the company like Taker and Kane whereas the others were relatively exclusive. I'm sure he got the spot because he's longstanding within the company.

so they have Lita on here but not Beth Phoenix, Trish Stratus or Alundra Blayze :confused::confused::confused:

btw no Jeff Hardy on here ?

Jeff Hardy is on the list at #14.
 
True but that would be attributed only to longevity in the company and my thing with the chokeslam is that it has been used as a finisher by multiple within the company like Taker and Kane whereas the others were relatively exclusive. I'm sure he got the spot because he's longstanding within the company.

I'm sure he did.

I understand your logic, good breakdown but the chokeslam was really the only finisher he had until recently when he started using the WMD and an occasional spear. Kane and Taker used it but their finishers would be more the tombstone and Taker had two other finishers in the Last Ride and the gogoplata (what did he call that?) choke.
 
Originally Posted by c_commander
True but that would be attributed only to longevity in the company and my thing with the chokeslam is that it has been used as a finisher by multiple within the company like Taker and Kane whereas the others were relatively exclusive. I'm sure he got the spot because he's longstanding within the company.

That's why pedigree is #3
 
I'm sure he did.

I understand your logic, good breakdown but the chokeslam was really the only finisher he had until recently when he started using the WMD and an occasional spear. Kane and Taker used it but their finishers would be more the tombstone and Taker had two other finishers in the Last Ride and the gogoplata (what did he call that?) choke.

It seems as if Kane has used the chokeslam more than the tombstone as a finisher.
:yes:
But they've always booked the Pedigree strong. Few guys over all the years HHH has been with the company have ever kicked out, even before he was banged the boss's daughter. Hunter Hearst Helmsley did not win with small packages and school boy roll ups. :D

Very true. That said I can't really think of anybody who kicked out of the F-5 either.

And Bam Bam Bigelow shouldn't even be on the list. Hell the Vegomatic should be on the list.
 
It seems as if Kane has used the chokeslam more than the tombstone as a finisher.

That was when all piledrivers were banned. He probably needed a third finisher like Taker.


Very true. That said I can't really think of anybody who kicked out of the F-5 either.

The nigga quit before anybody could:D

And Bam Bam Bigelow shouldn't even be on the list. Hell the Vegomatic should be on the list.

Man, I loved BBB but he never beat anybody with a moonsault anywhere. Now that Greetings From Ashbury Park piledriver was a killer in ECW.

Midnight Express (the real one) never worked in WWF and I don't remember anyone else of importance that used it. Great move.
 
That was when all piledrivers were banned. He probably needed a third finisher like Taker.

Very true but Kane has won more big matches than Big Show.


The nigga quit before anybody could:D.

:lol:

Man, I loved BBB but he never beat anybody with a moonsault anywhere. Now that Greetings From Ashbury Park piledriver was a killer in ECW.

Midnight Express (the real one) never worked in WWF and I don't remember anyone else of importance that used it. Great move.

I forgot all about Greetings from Ashbury Park. That move was sick.

Cornette's affiliation probably doesn't help the Midnight Express' case either. Sting may be the only guy on the list who didn't work in the WWF/E
 
Very true but Kane has won more big matches than Big Show.

:yes:

Well, if you don't figure in his WCW work. Combined, I think its pretty close. Show has beaten Flair and Hogan when that really meant something big. Kane has the advantage of being a WWF homegrown talent. Being a WCW import, Show hasn't always gotten the push he should have gotten, especially when he first got there.





I forgot all about Greetings from Ashbury Park. That move was sick.

Cornette's affiliation probably doesn't help the Midnight Express' case either. Sting may be the only guy on the list who didn't work in the WWF/E

Sting might end up the only guy of the modern era to get into the WWE HoF and never work one WWE match.
 
I'm sure he did.

I understand your logic, good breakdown but the chokeslam was really the only finisher he had until recently when he started using the WMD and an occasional spear. Kane and Taker used it but their finishers would be more the tombstone and Taker had two other finishers in the Last Ride and the gogoplata (what did he call that?) choke.

I think it's the Hell Gate
 
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