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c_commander said:
Damn Sabin goes down again. At least his contract should be up when he comes back so hopefully we can get The Machine Guns in the WWE. And on the brightside what is happening to him isn't as bad as what happened to Shane Helms with his motorcycle accident.
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Not a chance. Tag teams get no run in WWE and Shelley isn't there yet so it's not guarantee that he's going.

On the other hand, I can see this guy being there as early as tonight
MATT MORGAN UPDATE
by Mike Johnson @ 2:45 PM on 6/17/2012

TNA star Matt Morgan officially finished up his TNA commitments with this weekend's house shows. At last night's show, Morgan grabbed a sign from a fan at ringside that read, "Going, Going, Gone" and held it up to the crowd.
Morgan wrote on Twitter that he was in Connecticut today, where he is originally from. Obviously, with the WWE PPV just a short distance away in New Jersey, that's going to get people wondering.

PWInsider.com can confirm there was WWE interest in Morgan, although whether the two sides have come to terms remains to be seen.

He's big, he's White, and he can talk (or at least read scripts well). Since TNA isn't going to push him any further, and they should, WWE would be a great fit for him.

kanedagame said:
During Dave Meltzer's radio show for The Wrestling Observer, he reported that Paul "Triple H" Levesque is not allowing Mick Foley to be used on TV since his return in November.

Meltzer reported that Triple H slams Foley whenever his name is brought up in creative meetings. Brian Gerwitz, WWE's Senior Vice President of Creative Writing thinks Foley is a creative and good performer, but Levesque says Foley 'doesn't look tough' and can't be taken seriously as an in-ring performer.

A former WWE creative writer said to Power Slam in 2008 that Levesque would always insult Foley when he appeared for the company and hurt his value in the eyes of Vince and Stephanie McMahon.

Levesque was quoted as saying: "Foley is an out-of-shape nobody. No one cares about him at all. Funaki puts more asses in the seats than Foley does. He should pay us for coming on our shows."

It is believed that the reason Triple H does this is because he is irritated over the opinion from his closest co-workers that his matches with Foley in 2000 "made him a star".

Foley has also criticized Triple H in the past, including taking some shots at him in his 2007 autobiography The Hardcore Diaries. He was also against Triple H insulting Lilian Garcia on an April 2010 episode of RAW. He said he may have cost himself professional but had to say something.
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I'm doubting this but there is some truth to it. Foley doesn't get nearly the pops he used to get as fewer and fewer WWE fans remember what he used to be like.



ThaBurgerPimp said:
i bet one of them probably is jeff jarrett
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I'm sure he's going to end up as one but none of those guys looked familiar and all of them were bigger than Jeff. Sting-Jarrett might be good but I think both of them should be used to elevate younger guys, as Sting has done with Bobby Roode. Let Jeff work with Pope or Joe or even Magnus or he could turn face one more time and work Crimson.
 
A lot of Smackdown level matches on the PPV :smh: Sincara/Hunico (didn't they just do that last week) and Rybak vs jobbers WTF...

SGSII
 
This ppv was shit but are any of us shocked? The 2 title matches were good and you had a couple of good moments here and there(A.W & The Prime Time Players:yes:)but the main event was such a momentum killer. They are treading water until Summer Slam and it's painfully obvious:smh:
 
I don't know how they expect to make a 3-hour weekly show entertaining when they make shit PPVs like this.
 
It's gotten to the point where I DVR Raw, watch it later and fast-forward the show until something interesting comes out. Haven't even touched my folder with TNA episodes in it:smh::smh:
 
dirtyd said:
This ppv was shit but are any of us shocked? The 2 title matches were good and you had a couple of good moments here and there(A.W & The Prime Time Players:yes:)but the main event was such a momentum killer. They are treading water until Summer Slam and it's painfully obvious:smh:
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I'm willing to bet that the ppv didnt do good numbers especially since it was going up against the NBA Finals, but just wait until tomorrow night and they'll be on Raw talking like it was awesome​
 
ThaBurgerPimp said:
so will lauranitis and david otunga find some kind of legal loophole that will allow him to remain as GM tomorrow on Raw.. :rolleyes:
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I think they might just make Teddy interm gm of both shows for the time being..


ScottyPiffen745 said:
I don't know how they expect to make a 3-hour weekly show entertaining when they make shit PPVs like this.
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expect a shitload of commercials and a lot of backroom cutscenes
 
Nochturnal said:
A lot of Smackdown level matches on the PPV :smh: Sincara/Hunico (didn't they just do that last week) and Rybak vs jobbers WTF...

SGSII
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Why put those matches on the ppv in the first place? Give the title matches more time.

dirtyd said:
This ppv was shit but are any of us shocked? The 2 title matches were good and you had a couple of good moments here and there(A.W & The Prime Time Players:yes:)but the main event was such a momentum killer. They are treading water until Summer Slam and it's painfully obvious:smh:
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WWE seems to have unlearned all the lessons of the 90s that they used to be the masters of: end the ppv with your best possible match. Whether it was the mid 90s, the Attitude Era or just after, even if the ppv was eh, the main event was a killer and they ended on an exciting high. Of course Cena-Show had all the shit with Big Johnny and Vince but you know the Punk-Kane-DBryan match with all the AJ stuff was the hottest angle you had going and they were going to work a better match so let them finish.

I'm shocked they didn't take the belt off Punk so he can't say he didn't get his run but I still expect them to put the WWE title on Bryan at some point, he's just too over not to do it.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
Why put those matches on the ppv in the first place? Give the title matches more time.



WWE seems to have unlearned all the lessons of the 90s that they used to be the masters of: end the ppv with your best possible match. Whether it was the mid 90s, the Attitude Era or just after, even if the ppv was eh, the main event was a killer and they ended on an exciting high. Of course Cena-Show had all the shit with Big Johnny and Vince but you know the Punk-Kane-DBryan match with all the AJ stuff was the hottest angle you had going and they were going to work a better match so let them finish.

I'm shocked they didn't take the belt off Punk so he can't say he didn't get his run but I still expect them to put the WWE title on Bryan at some point, he's just too over not to do it.
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Back then i couldn't wait for Raw because the lasting image of the ppv was Austin/Rock/Taker doing some crazy shit and you just had to see the follow up, now it's just stupid shit that people didn't care about in the 1st place. As for Punk he's getting all the burden but none of the perks of being the champ, the ratings are dropping and he's not even in the ME yet Vince will blame him. The fact that your champ is not even in the ME is a complete joke and shows exactly why this company is shit now.
 
dirtyd said:
Back then i couldn't wait for Raw because the lasting image of the ppv was Austin/Rock/Taker doing some crazy shit and you just had to see the follow up, now it's just stupid shit that people didn't care about in the 1st place. As for Punk he's getting all the burden but none of the perks of being the champ, the ratings are dropping and he's not even in the ME yet Vince will blame him. The fact that your champ is not even in the ME is a complete joke and shows exactly why this company is shit now.
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:yes:
Especially when your champ is a better talker and worker than the guy you've forced down people's throats for years.
You know I have nothing against Cena but every time they do something that starts to get him over to that part of the audience that rejects him, they go right back to the same old shit that turned people against him in the first place.
Any suspense with the cage match from last night was killed when they announce that if Cena loses, he's fired. Either he wins or he gets reinstated quickly. He wouldn't even miss a couple months so what's the point?
 
Upgrade Dave said:
:yes:
Especially when your champ is a better talker and worker than the guy you've forced down people's throats for years.
You know I have nothing against Cena but every time they do something that starts to get him over to that part of the audience that rejects him, they go right back to the same old shit that turned people against him in the first place.
Any suspense with the cage match from last night was killed when they announce that if Cena loses, he's fired. Either he wins or he gets reinstated quickly. He wouldn't even miss a couple months so what's the point?
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The problem is Punk looks dirty like a dirty redneck while Cena is the squeaky clean white boy so Vince sees him as a negative stereotype, as for Cena being fired i still remember the Nexus firing in which he gave a tearful farewell and then showed up next week.
 
dirtyd said:
The problem is Punk looks dirty like a dirty redneck while Cena is the squeaky clean white boy so Vince sees him as a negative stereotype, as for Cena being fired i still remember the Nexus firing in which he gave a tearful farewell and then showed up next week.
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:lol: @ dirty redneck.
Punk actually looks like a lot of guys his age and younger with his tatts and rough, nappy beard. He could really get over and bring in that young, White male demographic that helped made the 90s so hot with the nWo and Attitude eras.

He did show up the next week, didn't he? They officially killed that stip right there.


c_commander said:
Who would they do the gimmick with? Vampiro would not survive in the WWE.
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They cant, it's dead. Vampiro, Muta, and the Insane Clown Posse had the perfect chemistry of weird, great wrestlers, guys who would take crazy bumps and both Vamp and Muta were huge names internationally so that gimmick could have been an awesome moneymaker for WCW.
WWE has no one they could even force into the role. They dont' even have wrestlers with paint on their faces.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
They cant, it's dead. Vampiro, Muta, and the Insane Clown Posse had the perfect chemistry of weird, great wrestlers, guys who would take crazy bumps and both Vamp and Muta were huge names internationally so that gimmick could have been an awesome moneymaker for WCW.
WWE has no one they could even force into the role. They dont' even have wrestlers with paint on their faces.
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I've always been surprised that McMahon never signed Muta for a program with the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. The build they could've given that would have been outstanding.
 
Rollie_Fingaz said:
I've always been surprised that McMahon never signed Muta for a program with the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. The build they could've given that would have been outstanding.
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Really? I'm not. Muta's never worked with Vince here (there was the idea of a program in Japan with him and Rock and/or Jericho but it never panned out) and it's only been in the last decade when people even paid attention to The Streak and Taker's usually fought some big guy or monster and Muta's never been that.

Now Muta and Bret, that sounds like a good fanboy fantasy booking dream match right there.
 
kanedagame said:
Can't wait to see Sid.

Guess that HHH/Foley stuff was some bullshit.
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Not necessarily. There was that video of him and Dean Ambrose which seemed like a debut point for Ambrose who has been on the road with the company for awhile but Foley is just turning up now?
 
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