THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[Rollie_Fingaz]

you dont see anything like this happen in WWE nowadays.

I said that before. Even the nWo didn't jump people as well as the Horsemen did.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

some of magnum ta's comments sounded mad homo

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Dusty sure took a lot of asswhoopings:

 

[NightMare Paint]

some of magnum ta's comments sounded mad homo

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

Dusty sure took a lot of asswhoopings:

him going H.A.M w/ the "bat"

 

[dirtyd]

Rock is shooting footage all over Boston for what people who witnessed it are calling "sick".

Can't wait to see this shit Also i feel like i owe Dave an apology, im watching ultimate insiders with Russo & Ferrara, and you were right Vince is basically the Milli Vanilli of wrestling. He relies so much on other people to find talent so really he had nothing to do with Austin or Rock, yet he will be the first to take credit for it

 

[NightMare Paint]

I see "Rise Above Hate" shirts...


I see a river...


I like where this is going....

 

[Simply Sickenin']

you dont see anything like this happen in WWE nowadays..

this youtube comment

I remember after seeing this when I was 11 years old I ran down stairs to the living room with my aluminum bat in my hands, crying and sobbing out loud at my father, "Take me to North Carolina!"

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I said that before. Even the nWo didn't jump people as well as the Horsemen did.

​

I see "Rise Above Hate" shirts...
I see a river...
I like where this is going....

I'm definitely tuning into Raw tonight​

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Nah, they were wilin' on this shit here. The fans rioted when the Horsemen whooped Dusty Rhodes ass. Flair said in his book he had no idea how they were going to get out of the ring alive that night.

You can see how the fans are pushing up on the cage and keeping the door closed. They had to turn around and whoop some more ass for fans to let them out.

you dont see anything like this happen in WWE nowadays..

this youtube comment

I remember after seeing this when I was 11 years old I ran down stairs to the living room with my aluminum bat in my hands, crying and sobbing out loud at my father, "Take me to North Carolina!"​

Ole would have taken great pleasure in beating his 11 yr old ass.

Dusty sure took a lot of asswhoopings:

Dusty understood that could stay over and get a shitload of other guys over at the same time by letting them kick his ass every once in a while. WWE needs to figure that out with Cena.

Can't wait to see this shit Also i feel like i owe Dave an apology, im watching ultimate insiders with Russo & Ferrara, and you were right Vince is basically the Milli Vanilli of wrestling. He relies so much on other people to find talent so really he had nothing to do with Austin or Rock, yet he will be the first to take credit for it

One, no apology necessary.

Two, I understood you. I was there once too. I used to think Vince McMahon had to be, if not a genius, kinda smart. No way a guy this influential could be that blind. But I kept reading the same shit in so many different books and seeing it in so many interviews, it had to be true.
Funny, I just thought about that conversation yesterday reading Jim Cornette's book and how he got the impression from Vince when they first met in the mid-80s, when Vince was trying to sign the Midnight Express from Crockett, that he had no idea who they were despite them being main eventers in Mid South and Charlotte.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

You can see how the fans are pushing up on the cage and keeping the door closed. They had to turn around and whoop some more ass for fans to let them out.

It took a police escort to get them out, IIRC.

Dusty understood that could stay over and get a shitload of other guys over at the same time by letting them kick his ass every once in a while. WWE needs to figure that out with Cena.

This is mostly the bookers fault. Cena has been made to look strong in almost every angle I've seen him in. The closest he's come to looking weak in the Nexus angle (and the early parts of the angle with Kane.) But that is his problem. He's always on TV and is always booked to look strong.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

It took a police escort to get them out, IIRC.

That's heat.

This is mostly the bookers fault. Cena has been made to look strong in almost every angle I've seen him in. The closest he's come to looking weak in the Nexus angle (and the early parts of the angle with Kane.) But that is his problem. He's always on TV and is always booked to look strong.

Agreed. Cena's acting can be horribly bad but he can only work with what they give him.
It's amazing to me because I see Vince wants to have "Hulkamania" back with John and it's been somewhat successful but even Hogan got his ass kicked sometimes. If we saw more John Cena (like with the Nexus feud or the Punk feud from last summer) and no SuperCena, he could convert a lot (but never all) of those people booing him. In a big way, they aren't booing him, he seems like a nice and sincere guy, they're booing the "concept" of John Cena, The Invincible.

 

[dirtyd]

One, no apology necessary.

Two, I understood you. I was there once too. I used to think Vince McMahon had to be, if not a genius, kinda smart. No way a guy this influential could be that blind. But I kept reading the same shit in so many different books and seeing it in so many interviews, it had to be true.
Funny, I just thought about that conversation yesterday reading Jim Cornette's book and how he got the impression from Vince when they first met in the mid-80s, when Vince was trying to sign the Midnight Express from Crockett, that he had no idea who they were despite them being main eventers in Mid South and Charlotte.

I knew Vince didn't have a hand in everything, but to find out that he really hasn't had a hand in anything is scary. Shane imo is the one who should be running the company because i don't trust HHH or Stephanie, he always had a pulse on what was current and Steph can't handle people shooting down her dumbass ideas. Russo & Ferrara came off great in that interview and after watching im going to back off on my criticism of him. He gave all credit to Austin & Rock saying he could've given it to anyone but only they were capable of making it work.

Im of the belief that if you have it you never lose it, and the current crop of so called stars shows me that Vince never had it

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I knew Vince didn't have a hand in everything, but to find out that he really hasn't had a hand in anything is scary. Shane imo is the one who should be running the company because i don't trust HHH or Stephanie, he always had a pulse on what was current and Steph can't handle people shooting down her dumbass ideas. Russo & Ferrara came off great in that interview and after watching im going to back off on my criticism of him. He gave all credit to Austin & Rock saying he could've given it to anyone but only they were capable of making it work.

Im of the belief that if you have it you never lose it, and the current crop of so called stars shows me that Vince never had it

He never did. I'm sure he had input once guys got there and some of his ideas might have worked but it was the bookers and management that had "it", not him (George Scott, Pat Patterson, JJ Dillon, Russo/Ferrara, Chris Krewski). What he had was incredible drive and ambition. Left to his own devices he had the WWF in the early 90s, that was dull and full of midcard, gimmick characters.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Finally


COMPLETE DETAILS ON WWE'S BEST OF THE CLASH OF CHAMPIONS DVD AND BLU-RAY SET ANNOUNCED
by Mike Johnson @ 12:02 PM on 3/5/2012

WWE European DVD distributor Silvervision announced the following details on the forthcoming Best of the WCW Clash of the Champions DVD and Blu-Ray sets, which you can order by clicking here.

The Real Story

NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. Sting
Clash of the Champions - 27th March, 1988

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Lex Luger & Barry Windham
Clash of the Champions - 27th March, 1988

Why Wait a Whole Year?

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Sting & Dusty Rhodes
Clash of the Champions II - 8th June, 1988

Russian Chain Match
Ricky Morton vs. Ivan Koloff
Clash of the Champions III - 7th September, 1988

“I Quit” Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk
Clash of the Champions IX - 15th November, 1989

Mil Mascaras vs. Cactus Jack Manson
Clash of the Champions X - 6th February, 1990

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Midnight Express vs. Rock & Roll Express
Clash of the Champions XI - 13th June, 1990

To Be The Man, You Gotta Beat The Man

NWA United States Championship Match
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger
Clash of the Champions XII - 5th September, 1990

The Young Pistols & Z-Man vs. The Fabulous Freebirds
Clash of the Champions XV - 12th June, 1991

15-Man Battle Royal
Clash of the Champions XVI - 5th September, 1991

WCW United States Championship Match
Sting vs. ‘Ravishing’ Rick Rude
Clash of the Champions XVII - 19th November, 1991

Other Stars On The Rise

2 out of 3 Falls Match
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs. The Hollywood Blonds
Clash of the Champions XXIII - 17th June, 1993

Brian Pillman vs. “Stunning” Steve Austin
Clash of the Champions XXV - 10th November, 1993

WCW Television Title Match
Lord Steven Regal vs. Dustin Rhodes
Clash of the Champions XXVI - 27th January, 1994

Elimination Tag Team Match
Sting & ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. ‘Ravishing’ Rick Rude & Vader
Clash of the Champions XXVI - 27th January, 1994

Here we are Again

Championship Unification Match
Sting vs. ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair
Clash of the Champions XXVII - 23rd June, 1994

WCW United States Championship Match
“Stunning” Steve Austin vs. Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat
Clash of the Champions XXVIII - 24th August, 1994

Hulk Hogan & ‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage vs. ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair & The Giant
Clash of the Champions XXXII - 23rd January, 1996

Madusa vs. Bull Nakano
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

Match for the BattleBowl Ring
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

I’m gonna watch this

WCW World Tag Team Championship Triple Threat Match
Harlem Heat vs. The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Ultimo Dragon vs. Dean Malenko
Clash of the Champions XXXIV - 21st January, 1997

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Chris Jericho vs. Eddie Guerrero
Clash of the Champions XXXV - 21st August, 1997

Diamond Dallas Page & Lex Luger vs. Scott Hall & ‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage
Clash of the Champions XXXV - 21st August, 1997

35th and Final Clash

Blu-ray Exclusive Content

'Nature Boy' Ric Flair and Barry Windham vs. Midnight Express
Clash of the Champions IV - 7th December, 1988

Sting and Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat vs. ‘Ravishing’ Rick Rude and Steve Austin
Clash of the Champions XVIII - 21st January, 1992

Thunder Cage Match
Dustin Rhodes & Sting vs. Big Van Vader, Paul Orndorff and Barry Windham
Clash of the Champions XXII - 13th January, 1993

 

[dirtyd]

Finally


COMPLETE DETAILS ON WWE'S BEST OF THE CLASH OF CHAMPIONS DVD AND BLU-RAY SET ANNOUNCED
by Mike Johnson @ 12:02 PM on 3/5/2012

WWE European DVD distributor Silvervision announced the following details on the forthcoming Best of the WCW Clash of the Champions DVD and Blu-Ray sets, which you can order by clicking here.

The Real Story

NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. Sting
Clash of the Champions - 27th March, 1988

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Lex Luger & Barry Windham
Clash of the Champions - 27th March, 1988

Why Wait a Whole Year?

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Sting & Dusty Rhodes
Clash of the Champions II - 8th June, 1988

Russian Chain Match
Ricky Morton vs. Ivan Koloff
Clash of the Champions III - 7th September, 1988

“I Quit” Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk
Clash of the Champions IX - 15th November, 1989

Mil Mascaras vs. Cactus Jack Manson
Clash of the Champions X - 6th February, 1990

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Midnight Express vs. Rock & Roll Express
Clash of the Champions XI - 13th June, 1990

To Be The Man, You Gotta Beat The Man

NWA United States Championship Match
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger
Clash of the Champions XII - 5th September, 1990

The Young Pistols & Z-Man vs. The Fabulous Freebirds
Clash of the Champions XV - 12th June, 1991

15-Man Battle Royal
Clash of the Champions XVI - 5th September, 1991

WCW United States Championship Match
Sting vs. ‘Ravishing’ Rick Rude
Clash of the Champions XVII - 19th November, 1991

Other Stars On The Rise

2 out of 3 Falls Match
‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs. The Hollywood Blonds
Clash of the Champions XXIII - 17th June, 1993

Brian Pillman vs. “Stunning” Steve Austin
Clash of the Champions XXV - 10th November, 1993

WCW Television Title Match
Lord Steven Regal vs. Dustin Rhodes
Clash of the Champions XXVI - 27th January, 1994

Elimination Tag Team Match
Sting & ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair vs. ‘Ravishing’ Rick Rude & Vader
Clash of the Champions XXVI - 27th January, 1994

Here we are Again

Championship Unification Match
Sting vs. ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair
Clash of the Champions XXVII - 23rd June, 1994

WCW United States Championship Match
“Stunning” Steve Austin vs. Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat
Clash of the Champions XXVIII - 24th August, 1994

Hulk Hogan & ‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage vs. ‘Nature Boy’ Ric Flair & The Giant
Clash of the Champions XXXII - 23rd January, 1996

Madusa vs. Bull Nakano
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

Match for the BattleBowl Ring
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

I’m gonna watch this

WCW World Tag Team Championship Triple Threat Match
Harlem Heat vs. The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Ultimo Dragon vs. Dean Malenko
Clash of the Champions XXXIV - 21st January, 1997

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Chris Jericho vs. Eddie Guerrero
Clash of the Champions XXXV - 21st August, 1997

Diamond Dallas Page & Lex Luger vs. Scott Hall & ‘Macho Man’ Randy Savage
Clash of the Champions XXXV - 21st August, 1997

35th and Final Clash

Blu-ray Exclusive Content

'Nature Boy' Ric Flair and Barry Windham vs. Midnight Express
Clash of the Champions IV - 7th December, 1988

Sting and Ricky ‘The Dragon’ Steamboat vs. ‘Ravishing’ Rick Rude and Steve Austin
Clash of the Champions XVIII - 21st January, 1992

Thunder Cage Match
Dustin Rhodes & Sting vs. Big Van Vader, Paul Orndorff and Barry Windham
Clash of the Champions XXII - 13th January, 1993

I normally bootleg but dvds like this i always purchase

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I normally bootleg but dvds like this i always purchase

It depends on if Vince cuts the matches short or not. I like that Flair/Funk match and I would hate to see it butchered. Flair was throwing some BRUTAL chops in this match.



LMBAO @ Funk getting the fuck out of the ring at the 15:02 mark..

 

[c_commander]

So Santino just won the US title so that he in all likelihood will get to drop the belt either Friday or next Monday.

 

[The Pope]

So Santino just won the US title so that he in all likelihood will get to drop the belt either Friday or next Monday.

I'm pretty sure he'll drop it at the Smackdown tapings tomorrow night....​

Even on tape the Rock is still funny ​

it smells like fear, fruity pebbles and possom piss

 

[NightMare Paint]

Dammit Rock got me crackin up

 

[TheProdigal]

I havent watched raw live in a long time, wheres JR?

 

[dtownsfinest]

Dolph went from being a potential main eventer to losing to Santino. I'm guessing him and Miz in the same doghouse.

 

[The Pope]

I havent watched raw live in a long time, wheres JR?

he's behind the scenes where he currently works as a talent relations consultant​

 

[theegokiller]

That Alicia Fox vs. Eve......WORST.MATCH.EVER!!!!!

 

[c_commander]

Dolph went from being a potential main eventer to losing to Santino. I'm guessing him and Miz in the same doghouse.

Dolph didn't lose Swagger did. And that match shows why the mid card isn't even close to being over and at main event status. Cause they treat the title and the wrestlers as damn near disposable and mainly to be used as pawns for other storylines that in most cases aren't even main event status themselves.

 

[NightMare Paint]

John Cena getting his Razzie Award Winning monologue on

 

[dtownsfinest]

Dolph didn't lose Swagger did. And that match shows why the mid card isn't even close to being over and at main event status. Cause they treat the title and the wrestlers as damn near disposable and mainly to be used as pawns for other storylines that in most cases aren't even main event status themselves.

My bad I was talking out of my ass. I walked out after Santino's intro and saw he got the title. I thought Dolph was US champion. But yea that US title should have far more weight to it. They treating that shit like its the Hardcore Championship.

 

[ScottyPiffen745]

I havent watched raw live in a long time, wheres JR?

The storyline is that he was dismissed when Laurinaitis became the interim GM of Raw.

 

[NightMare Paint]

That Alicia Fox vs. Eve......WORST.MATCH.EVER!!!!!

Eve didn't even realize the match was over...

My bad I was talking out of my ass. I walked out after Santino's intro and saw he got the title. I thought Dolph was US champion. But yea that US title should have far more weight to it. They treating that shit like its the Hardcore Championship.

Hell I actually respected the 24/7 rules Hardcore title

 

[c_commander]

My bad I was talking out of my ass. I walked out after Santino's intro and saw he got the title. I thought Dolph was US champion. But yea that US title should have far more weight to it. They treating that shit like its the Hardcore Championship.

At this point they use to treat the Hardcore title with more respect cause at least then when they dropped the belt they were either caught slipping or completely outnumbered. The US title just gets dropped because most of the time.

 

[The Pope]

Two live Rock appearances back to back weeks ???? ​

 

[dirtyd]

Tooth Fairy chants but imo Rock won because Cena didn't say anything at all really. They're still hesitant to turn him loose on Cena, and that's pissing me off because Vince knows how damaging Rock can be. The history lessons were funny and i was glad we didn't get an overload of hash tags again, but how is Cena gonna talk tough after Rock leaves

HBK as the special ref adds a new dynamic as they'll play off the "will he screw Taker or HHH" angle. Punk & Jericho had a solid night but Ryder was the most useless person on the show

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

What pissed me off is the dumb assed smirk Cena had when the Rock called him his bitch. I mean dude just said that to you in front of your dad, your wife and everyone you grew up with. Can 't you get a LITTLE mad? You go from being serious to the goofy ass dude...which is it?

It's also not a good sign that dude got mixed reactions in his home state.

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

That Alicia Fox vs. Eve......WORST.MATCH.EVER!!!!!

i assumed zack ryder was still simping for eve

 

[Simply Sickenin']

If I'm not mistaken, this marks at least the 3rd or 4th Raw in Boston where the "hometown" crowd wasn't feeling Cena.

Love him or hate him, you gotta admit that Cena is changing the game right right because nobody gets booed at home .... NOBODY !!!! Even heels and low card nobodies usually get love from their hometown crowd. ​

 

[dirtyd]

What pissed me off is the dumb assed smirk Cena had when the Rock called him his bitch. I mean dude just said that to you in front of your dad, your wife and everyone you grew up with. Can 't you get a LITTLE mad? You go from being serious to the goofy ass dude...which is it?

It's also not a good sign that dude got mixed reactions in his home state.

That's what me and Dave have brought up as well, Punk& Cena are both guilty of it and it really shows how the new stars can't sell a feud. Rock & Jericho cut their promos and all they get back are smiles, but when it's the other way around they're selling the anger & frustration. Smiling is a weak counter move because you're trying to make your opponents promo seem insignificant, but all it does is make you look like a jerkoff.