They gave Taker some weave too?
He looks like Prince in Purple Rain
I was wondering what they would do about that after that picture surfaced on the net like a month ago where Taker was practically shaven bald.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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I was wondering what they would do about that after that picture surfaced on the net like a month ago where Taker was practically shaven bald.
So it looks like the Sheamus win really was a last minute change up by Vince just to throw the fans off. I think it will end up being a good move tho. Rare for the current creative team.
Orton winning in his hometown would have been way too cheesy and predictable. And didn't he already win one?
Can't believe I'm about to say this, but Christian NOT coming back last night seems like another good move on their point. People on that main event level should only make returns at the Rumble when they're penciled in to win it. I highly doubt Vince will ever let Christian win the rumble, so have him return later on Smackdown. If anything, he can make a return next week, get into the Smackdown EC match, win the champion, and go on to lose the title to Sheamus at Mania. Christian v. Sheamus makes more sense than DB v. Sheamus .... IMHO
It could have been interesting to see Cena win the Rumble and have to chose between the champion match and The Rock, but he REALLY doesn't need the win. Let a younger guy, like Sheamus get the win .... but unfortunately, this also means we've be getting more Cena/Kane bullshit until the EC PPV. Maybe that will be the heel turn for the match at Mania.
So we're stuck with HHH-Taker III at Mania. Might be good but it's a wasted opportunity to elevate a new main eventer. No way they top last year.
Punk vs Bryan on Raw? Thank you very much. Non-finish? Appropriate but Daniel gets out of another match without actually beating anyone. He's won exactly one match, not counting cashing in MitB, in months.
Props to Punk and Bryan for doing the Code of Honor on Raw.
The Ziggler push is over...AGAIN. Dude just got beat 5 times in 2 days. How will you ever get fans to take him seriously anytime soon?
Good for Kofi, a win over Miz. Now he can do jobs for 6 more months.
If they turn Cena, who moves into his spot? A feud with Punk but then who? There are only three strong faces in the whole company.
Punk vs Bryan on Raw? Thank you very much. Non-finish? Appropriate but Daniel gets out of another match without actually beating anyone. He's won exactly one match, not counting cashing in MitB, in months.
Props to Punk and Bryan for doing the Code of Honor on Raw.
The Ziggler push is over...AGAIN. Dude just got beat 5 times in 2 days. How will you ever get fans to take him seriously anytime soon?
Good for Kofi, a win over Miz. Now he can do jobs for 6 more months.
If they turn Cena, who moves into his spot? A feud with Punk but then who? There are only three strong faces in the whole company.
No way, with the way they travel and spend all this time together, Vickie has been celibate all this time, especially since she's lost so much weight. You know when women lose weight, they always want to take the new body out for a test drive.
Anyway
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Had her baby and is back in the ring a couple weeks later. Hopefully, she can get back into wrestling shape and be at Mania and her and Beth can have a good match. If not Beth, she can squash the fucking Bellas in a handicap match.
They gave Taker some weave too?
He looks like Prince in Purple Rain
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And Tradition Continues.....
Friday's WWE Smackdown television show drew a 2.11 rating, down from the 2.14 the week before. The show averaged 3.141 million viewers.
Orton wins title, ratings tank. Henry wins title, ratings rise. D-Bry wins title with Orton off TV, ratings continue to rise. Orton big comeback gets advertised all over TV...rating drops.
Friday's WWE Smackdown television show drew a 2.11 rating, down from the 2.14 the week before. The show averaged 3.141 million viewers.
Orton wins title, ratings tank. Henry wins title, ratings rise. D-Bry wins title with Orton off TV, ratings continue to rise. Orton big comeback gets advertised all over TV...rating drops.
Im surprised the internet is still working considering they had a Punk/Danielson match
Seriously this was one of the better raws minus that awful opening segment, that had to be one of the most awkward goodbye songs everIm surprised the internet is still working considering they had a Punk/Danielson match
Punk vs Danielson ON RAW!!!!!! Somebody somewhere had to change their draws last night.
It was pretty alright in spots but they need to string together a few good ones in a row like Impact! has been doing especially after that ppv.
I like Naomi and Cameron's butt bump better when they aren't aligned right and Cam's butt is on top of Naomi's. That almost made me have to change MY draws.
Punk vs Danielson ON RAW!!!!!! Somebody somewhere had to change their draws last night.
It was pretty alright in spots but they need to string together a few good ones in a row like Impact! has been doing especially after that ppv.
I like Naomi and Cameron's butt bump better when they aren't aligned right and Cam's butt is on top of Naomi's. That almost made me have to change MY draws.
Boy you analyze everything don't you
I was wondering what they would do about that after that picture surfaced on the net like a month ago where Taker was practically shaven bald.
They could've at least hit it with the flat iron real quick.
I noticed that shyt too, took me back to my VHS days of rewinding over and over.
Punk vs Danielson ON RAW!!!!!! Somebody somewhere had to change their draws last night.
It was pretty alright in spots but they need to string together a few good ones in a row like Impact! has been doing especially after that ppv.
I like Naomi and Cameron's butt bump better when they aren't aligned right and Cam's butt is on top of Naomi's. That almost made me have to change MY draws.
That shit almost made me cry.
Man I rewind to watch that part about 5 times. Somebody needs to gif that part.
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I know Taker hair has had to grown back to atleast his neck by now. The bald pic surfaced back in August. He should have just came back with the short hair back when he last faced Kane at Mania.
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I know Taker hair has had to grown back to atleast his neck by now. The bald pic surfaced back in August. He should have just came back with the short hair back when he last faced Kane at Mania.
Finally got the Randy Savage DLC on WWE 12...First thing I did was beat the shit outta Cena and end it with the big elbow...ooooooooohhhhhh yeeeeeeeaaaaahhhh
When Rock dropped him, it killed damaged his heat with me. Let Jericho put the hand up and walk the fuck off with Rock standing there, thunderstruck the same way he leaves guys.
Rock and Punk in a feud would be good but they would have to do it like Crockett used to let Flair and Dusty go at it. None of that face off week after week bullshit that is so over done. Just guys come out separately, cut promos on each other, building up to a face off on the last show before the ppv (maybe).
Boy you analyze everything don't you
Gatdamn right!!!
You see I wasn't the only one who noticed that little switch up.See dirty, this is the shit I'm talking about. You can't compare anything from now to Attitude or even the Hulkamania era because they can't do shit right.
Ryan sucks as a wrestler but how can you not use the Rumble to build a jacked monster like him? Let him throw out 7-8 guys like Diesel and Kane and then make sure it takes two or three guys to get him out. How fucking hard is that?
When Rock dropped him, it killed damaged his heat with me. Let Jericho put the hand up and walk the fuck off with Rock standing there, thunderstruck the same way he leaves guys.
Rock and Punk in a feud would be good but they would have to do it like Crockett used to let Flair and Dusty go at it. None of that face off week after week bullshit that is so over done. Just guys come out separately, cut promos on each other, building up to a face off on the last show before the ppv (maybe).
Gatdamn right!!!
See dirty, this is the shit I'm talking about. You can't compare anything from now to Attitude or even the Hulkamania era because they can't do shit right.
Ryan sucks as a wrestler but how can you not use the Rumble to build a jacked monster like him? Let him throw out 7-8 guys like Diesel and Kane and then make sure it takes two or three guys to get him out. How fucking hard is that?
The only problem is that Punk will come off like a dick the same way with he did with HHH and even JL recently with his whole "failed at life" line, Rock, Austin, HHH, Jericho & HBK are at that level where you can say whatever you want but the life long fans will always back the legends. The moment Rock comes out and goes at Punk it will destroy him, what was evident to me at Survivor Series was what a real star looks like compared to what is considered a star now.
The whole monster thing is lame simply because beating the shit out of jobbers means nothing, but if he were to attack the top stars then maybe people would take notice. Vince's motto is "I want you to be a star without beating any stars"
That's okay, he could be a dick since he would fit into a heel mode much better than trying to ram Cena into it like many people want.
You can't compare what happened with HHH because Hunter didn't really play fair. He was doing "Mr McMahon" like Johnny Ace is, he put himself in the face position of "Look at all the things I did for you to get you back here" so Punk looked like a spoiled child complaining and that would be great if that was his gimmick but he was the hottest face going at the time and HHH cut his knees out from under him. Dusty was the booker for Crockett the entire run of the Horsemen and the Midnight Express and he never cut them down like that.
The things you want to put on Punk aren't Punk's fault because when left to himself, he draws money and attention. It's when the office gets involved that things go downhill.
The whole monster thing is lame simply because beating the shit out of jobbers means nothing, but if he were to attack the top stars then maybe people would take notice. Vince's motto is "I want you to be a star without beating any stars"
That's what the Rumble is good for: building new guys. Mason Ryan dumps out a shitload of guys and Michael Cole sells the hell out of it on the ppv and on Raw the next night and you have a brand new monster. The guy was manhandling Kane and Big Show last year, got hurt, came back and was bouncing Ziggler and Swagger around. He didn't connect because he's not a good enough wrestler to be a babyface and they miscast him as one anyway.
That's my problem right there if a guys great and he can draw etc etc then why was it so easy for him to lose momentum? Creative has done a lot to fuck up pushes and wrestlers, but there comes a point when you have to look at the guy. MITB drew a higher buyrate than the previous year but not by much and SummerSlam actually did worse than the 2010 version. What's really not a good look for him is he's the champ and he can't even close the show because of low ratings. HHH could've come out there and played heel and people would still cheer him because at the end of the day HHH > Punk in terms of legacy.
You bring up the Crockett promotion but do you remember the Von Erich/Freebirds rivalry? That was the greatest rivalry in wrestling history imo because that to me epitomized a wrestling war. A modern version would be Rock & Austin going back and forth because no matter what either one said to the other that person was never damaged.
PS: Funny little scene at the Rumble with Big Show trying to give Orton's daughter his hat
The ratings for the second hour have been dipping below the first hour long before Punk became champ, he just didn't reverse the trend because he's not feuding with anyone that people care about. There is a point where you look at the guy but Punk isn't doing anything to fuck up his push, Creative is. He didn't kill his momentum, they did. You think it was his idea to come back so fast?
If HHH comes out and heels Punk, people wouldn't have any problem booing him because Punk was red hot and people are more than willing to buy HHH as a dickish, overbearing heel. He's not like Rock and Austin as far as his popularity goes.
I enjoyed it but the Von Erichs won way too much for it to be the greatest feud. But, even with that, both factions were presented as strong for the most part. There's not one heel in WWE that's been booked to look consistently strong with the slight exception of the Miz in the build up to Mania. Punk almost but just as he got hot, they flipped him. If there are no strong heels, the faces can't get over as strong. Austin got over because he had Bret Hart in his way. And then Shawn Michaels and DX (with Mike fucking Tyson) and then he was feuding with his boss. You can't get better heels to go against. Punk has had Alberto Del Rio, who hadn't one a single big match all year and the extra lame John Lauranitis. He got pinned by HHH and then lost in the tag match with Miz and Truth (couldn't let HHH take the pin, could we?). He just spent the last month with Ziggler but no one believes in Dolph Ziggler anymore. Punk has prove he can put asses in seats but they have to let him do it.
PS: Funny little scene at the Rumble with Big Show trying to give Orton's daughter his hat
All i have to ask now is this, who do they have besides Cena that can make people feel the way they did about the von erich/freebird feud or Rock/Austin? Forget all the miscellaneous stuff i said about Punk my only question is can he make a star? You can't say he's a star the turn around and say he needs stars to work with.
Yes, I can. Every star needs other stars to work with. No one is made on their own. Ric Flair couldn't draw flies in Florida as NWA champion because Eddie Graham, out of spite, booked him against midcarders instead of Dusty Rhodes. Dusty couldn't give tickets away in Georgia when he was headlining against the Missouri Mauler but it turned around when he was feuding with Ole Anderson. I gave you Austin's list. Rock had Austin, Foley, HHH, and Taker. The Von Erichs were already on top in Texas but they set records when they had the Freebirds. No one even cares what they were doing before The 'Birds got there. The last matchup they had that could draw money was Cena-Punk and they killed it. Wrestling works best when you present a strong heel against a strong babyface, the more sympathetic the babyface the better.
As a Texas native im calling bullshit on that, they were big but the freebirds made them legendary. And once again Dave who do they have besides Cena? Punk can't make stars and there are no stars strong enough to get the wrestling worlds attention. What's ironic is that the WWE is making the same mistake WCW did, they thought Rock & Austin would be around forever and they never developed other people. I agree with what you're saying but can you see where im coming from?
The reality is todays star is yesteryears mid-carder, looking back Edge would be the perfect example on how to create a star. It was a slow burn but he never lost momentum and his push was consistent. Working with big stars(especially ones with big egos)can also hurt you because Sting never recovered from Starrcade 97.
What are you calling bullshit on, that's exactly what I said? The Von Erich popularity was big regionally but the Freebird feud made them international stars.
I can see where you're coming from the reason they don't have stars is completely Vince and Co.'s fault. I can't name a top heel back in the day that lost as much as ADR or Wade Barrett (before the Barrett Barrage) or Sheamus (before they turned him).
Edge is a good example but Sting isn't. There are a bunch of guys who could be stars today if they got the Edge kind of build.
Sting was the most popular guy in WCW at the time and had been for years. Starrcade 97 hurt WCW way more than it hurt Sting.
If they had done like they were supposed to, Sting would have been shot to that upper level with Hogan and Flair. Working with big stars is the only way to elevate guys because midcarders working with each other can only get them so high.
I was calling bullshit when you said no cared, but you contradicted yourself when you admitted they were big regionally
I remember the next day at school all my friends talked about how much that match sucked, Sting was still popular but he pretty much stalled after that.
Sidestepping that for a second
WWE Divas got about 5 minutes combined from SD on Fri, the ppv and Raw.
TNA Knockouts got a main event a couple weeks ago with Mickie and Gail, then a steel cage match the next week with Mickie and Madison and the next week, last week, Mickie and Tara got the match at the middle of the show and all of them were given plenty of time to work good matches.
Natalya needs to wait out her contract and jump ship. Maybe she can get herself fired like Gail did. TNA doesn't pay quite as much but at least they don't treat the women as an afterthought.
WWE Divas got about 5 minutes combined from SD on Fri, the ppv and Raw.
TNA Knockouts got a main event a couple weeks ago with Mickie and Gail, then a steel cage match the next week with Mickie and Madison and the next week, last week, Mickie and Tara got the match at the middle of the show and all of them were given plenty of time to work good matches.
Natalya needs to wait out her contract and jump ship. Maybe she can get herself fired like Gail did. TNA doesn't pay quite as much but at least they don't treat the women as an afterthought.
I was calling bullshit when you said no cared, but you contradicted yourself when you admitted they were big regionally
No contradiction. I meant, and should have typed, no one cared outside Texas. But the Freebirds, who were big from being main eventers in major territories like Georgia and Mid South, elevated them. It also helped that Ric Flair had caught fire as NWA champion. With Flair and the Freebirds, the Von Erichs met their matches and attendance went crazy. Strong heels to combat strong faces.
That match did suck but it was the day everyone points to that led to WCW demise. They hurt Sting but they (Hogan, Bischoff) killed WCW.
Not to interrupt or nothing, but I just wanted to come in and say 
I love these back and forth conversations down memory lane. Feels like I'm back in middle school.
Just wanted to say that and say thank you for the memories .... Carry On
I love these back and forth conversations down memory lane. Feels like I'm back in middle school.Just wanted to say that and say thank you for the memories .... Carry On
Not to interrupt or nothing, but I just wanted to come in and say
Just wanted to say that and say thank you for the memories .... Carry On
They're only good when the people involved can go way back. If the days of the nWo and Stone Cold are the "good old days" to you, stay the fuck out of conversation with me and dirty. Just sit back and listen/read and remember to check YouTube to see what we're talking about.
You're welcome.
They're only good when the people involved can go way back. If the days of the nWo and Stone Cold are the "good old days" to you, stay the fuck out of conversation with me and dirty. Just sit back and listen/read and remember to check YouTube to see what we're talking about.
You're welcome.
that shit was uncalled for right there
They're only good when the people involved can go way back. If the days of the nWo and Stone Cold are the "good old days" to you, stay the fuck out of conversation with me and dirty. Just sit back and listen/read and remember to check YouTube to see what we're talking about.
You're welcome.
Not that I don't remember most of these references, but trust I won't be jumping anywhere near this conversation. It's SO MUCH more entertaining to sit back and watch two professionals going to work.
You and dirty got this one.
You and dirty got this one.
that shit was uncalled for right there
It's all relative. I didn't even think of looking at it that way until you said something.
