THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....

[c_commander]

Naw they been calling him Great White Shaemus all night. I don't watch Smackdown so I thought maybe that's some shit they been calling him? JR called that nigga the Great White Shaemus too. Booker ain't saying that shit though.

But yea I agree. Shaemus and Mason Ryan are some weak ass faces. Shit just looks odd. Shaemus doesn't even act like a face. His transition from heel to face is non-existent. He's still the same character.

It's one of those times that for whatever reason people starting liking him.I was at Wrestlemania and was surprised by how big of a pop Sheamus got when he came out.

 

[The Pope]

It's one of those times that for whatever reason people starting liking him.I was at Wrestlemania and was surprised by how big of a pop Sheamus got when he came out.

I dont even remember what it was that made that dude turn face

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

@ people booing for Michael Cole walking out. LET HIM LEAVE !!!!

and @ the cameramen leaving. Nice touch WWE. ​

they shouldve had the ppl in the production truck walk out as well

 

[dtownsfinest]

It's one of those times that for whatever reason people starting liking him.I was at Wrestlemania and was surprised by how big of a pop Sheamus got when he came out.

Man I think that shit was due to booking him poorly. They booked him as this weak ass heel that fans probably felt sorry for him. I remember when he was dominant and then all of a sudden started running away from Nexxus like a bitch.

 

[c_commander]

Man I think that shit was due to booking him poorly. They booked him as this weak ass heel that fans probably felt sorry for him. I remember when he was dominant and then all of a sudden started running away from Nexxus like a bitch.

At the same time during they stuck him in the middle of the Orton-Christian feud and had him attacking both guys and the fans ate it up.To me that was the point where he started to shift over.

Besides the one thing that a heel is supposed to do above everything else is protect their own self interest so it would be dumb for him to fight a group of 8 guys who are destroying the top faces at the time.He may have looked like a bitch but it would have done him no good to get his ass handed to him by Nexus either.

 

[c_commander]

@ people booing for Michael Cole walking out. LET HIM LEAVE !!!!

and @ the cameramen leaving. Nice touch WWE. ​

That was dumb.As if it was the first time that officials or cameramen or wrestlers have been attacked.Nexus did all that shit last year but I guess the fans are supposed to be too dumb to remember the ring announcer Justin Roberts being strangled with his own tie,or HHH breaking Jim Ross' arm,or Sheamus beating Lawler up,or Michael Cole and Jack Swagger beating up Lawler and Ross,or Mark Henry fucking up a production months ago.I get what they were doing but this is a retread of a storyline that isn't consistent in light of things that have happened previously.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Yea is that the plan to establish the tag team division? I can't tell if its to improve the tag team division or if its to establish Kofi and Evan as a team team.

The plan is/was to get a real tag division going but so far, it's a one team division and Air Boom still has a makeshift feel to them.

Man the heels never win those big tag matches. They always end the same. Everyone hits their finishing move and the last one to hit their move is a face and they win.

And yo when they start calling this cat the "Great White Shaemus"? The fuck?

I know they want it to come off like Great White Shark but it just doesn't and it has an odd sound to it. Another example of them not having Black folks working in Creative. They started calling him that during the Henry feud so you know how bad that looked.

It's one of those times that for whatever reason people starting liking him.I was at Wrestlemania and was surprised by how big of a pop Sheamus got when he came out.

I dont even remember what it was that made that dude turn face

The Henry feud turned him as they went from allies to rivals for matches with Randy Orton.
He started off poorly as a face because they did to him what they did to Morrison and started having him smile and slap hands and shit. Lately, he's just gone back to being an asskicker and that works for him.
Why they decided to turn Ryan is a mystery. He's just not that good in the ring yet so he needs to be a monster who doesn't sell much and doesn't get exposed in the ring.

What the fuck happened to Drew McIntyre? Just release him and maybe he can work in Japan or get on with ROH where he can continue working and showing what he can do in the ring. Ever since his wife got arrested on a domestic, Vince has shit on him.

 

[dirtyd]

Yea I think grown men wearing wrestling shirts is too much but that shirt is nice.

There's only one shirt that a grown man can always get away with wearing and that's the NWO shirt.

 

[THE DRIZZY]

On the divas side I hate how they made Beth look like a weak champ when getting attacked by Kelly Kelly. Not a way to treat her on her first title reign. This is why people hate the divas division at least TNA is better in that aspect. I am in favor of the wwe divas getting their own half-hour show on Spike or something. A full hour would be too much

 

[The Pope]

There's only one shirt that a grown man can always get away with wearing and that's the NWO shirt.

you could probably get away with wearing the original Nexus shirt

 

[Deacs]

There's only one shirt that a grown man can always get away with wearing and that's the NWO shirt.

You could rock the Rock tee with the golden bull head still...

 

[THE DRIZZY]

There's only one shirt that a grown man can always get away with wearing and that's the NWO shirt.

you could probably get away with wearing the original Nexus shirt

You could rock the Rock tee with the golden bull head still...

Don't forget about the What? and Damn! T-shirts.

 

[Deacs]

Don't forget about the What? and Damn! T-shirts.

My Damn tee is fucked up... ..... ..... ..... DAMN!!

Why didn't they come out with a Booker T tee is beyond me... dude had so many quotes and two catch phrases....
Can you dig it.... Sucka!!

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Yea I think grown men wearing wrestling shirts is too much but that shirt is nice.

I agree that's why the best wrestling tees are the ones that don't look like wrestling tees. The federation and wrestler's name have to be small with whatever design/slogan large like Rock's "I Bring It!" shirt (which just looks like a suggestive t-shirt, something I have a rep for wearing) or Miz's "Hello, I'm Awesome" shirt.
Anything opposite of Cena's horrible fucking shirts.

On the divas side I hate how they made Beth look like a weak champ when getting attacked by Kelly Kelly. Not a way to treat her on her first title reign. This is why people hate the divas division at least TNA is better in that aspect. I am in favor of the wwe divas getting their own half-hour show on Spike or something. A full hour would be too much

This is Beth's second reign but I understand your point. TNA usually does a better job with their Knockouts but instead of letting them wrestle, and they have good wrestlers, they still overbook their segments.

My Damn tee is fucked up... ..... ..... ..... DAMN!!

Why didn't they come out with a Booker T tee is beyond me... dude had so many quotes and two catch phrases....
Can you dig it.... Sucka!!

 

[The Pope]

Update on CM Punk: Is his big push over?
Posted by Roscoe De Soto on 10/04/2011 at 10:28 AM

Credit: PWInsider.com
While it may appear to some that WWE has halted CM Punk's push or put him on the backburner, sources say that is not the case. WWE officials were very surprised at new merchandise numbers for Punk. Punk is now one of the company's top sellers and is neck-and-neck with John Cena. In one demographic, likely males, Punk is on pace to pass Cena in sales.

Because of Punk's success coming out of the summer storylines, WWE officials are now actively looking for ways to monetize him. WWE Studios are looking for projects that Punk could star in and there is talk of doing a CM Punk book, in part because the company hasn't had many books lined up as of late. There are also plans to release more Punk merchandise soon. Punk is also planned to be a bigger part of WWE programming and pay-per-views going into 2012. Word is that the company will be going "full blown" when it comes to Punk.

Regarding creative plans, Punk is scheduled to headline several upcoming pay-per-views with WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio. There's no word yet where John Cena will fit into the feud, if he will at all. Some have questioned WWE's booking of Punk as of late but it's said that WWE is trying to build sympathy for his losses as a part of something bigger.



does this mean we're headed towards a long Punk/ Del Rio storyline ??? I'm pretty sure Cena will soon start building up his match with Rock for WM and he has another box office on the way so I'll be interested to what'll take place. I heard Cena, Rock and Punk were supposed to team up for Survivor Series, but I could be mistaken.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Update on CM Punk: Is his big push over?
Posted by Roscoe De Soto on 10/04/2011 at 10:28 AM

Credit: PWInsider.com
While it may appear to some that WWE has halted CM Punk's push or put him on the backburner, sources say that is not the case. WWE officials were very surprised at new merchandise numbers for Punk. Punk is now one of the company's top sellers and is neck-and-neck with John Cena. In one demographic, likely males, Punk is on pace to pass Cena in sales.

Because of Punk's success coming out of the summer storylines, WWE officials are now actively looking for ways to monetize him. WWE Studios are looking for projects that Punk could star in and there is talk of doing a CM Punk book, in part because the company hasn't had many books lined up as of late. There are also plans to release more Punk merchandise soon. Punk is also planned to be a bigger part of WWE programming and pay-per-views going into 2012. Word is that the company will be going "full blown" when it comes to Punk.

Regarding creative plans, Punk is scheduled to headline several upcoming pay-per-views with WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio. There's no word yet where John Cena will fit into the feud, if he will at all. Some have questioned WWE's booking of Punk as of late but it's said that WWE is trying to build sympathy for his losses as a part of something bigger.



does this mean we're headed towards a long Punk/ Del Rio storyline ??? I'm pretty sure Cena will soon start building up his match with Rock for WM and he has another box office on the way so I'll be interested to what'll take place. I heard Cena, Rock and Punk were supposed to team up for Survivor Series, but I could be mistaken.

Yep on Punk/Del Rio going forward, I heard the same thing.
I hadn't heard Punk was going to be on Rock and Cena's team but I hadn't heard he wasn't. I would think they would want to spread their main event guys out and I do remember hearing they were expecting Nash to be ready to go with Punk by Survivor Series.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Update on CM Punk: Is his big push over?
Posted by Roscoe De Soto on 10/04/2011 at 10:28 AM

Credit: PWInsider.com
While it may appear to some that WWE has halted CM Punk's push or put him on the backburner, sources say that is not the case. WWE officials were very surprised at new merchandise numbers for Punk. Punk is now one of the company's top sellers and is neck-and-neck with John Cena. In one demographic, likely males, Punk is on pace to pass Cena in sales.

Because of Punk's success coming out of the summer storylines, WWE officials are now actively looking for ways to monetize him. WWE Studios are looking for projects that Punk could star in and there is talk of doing a CM Punk book, in part because the company hasn't had many books lined up as of late. There are also plans to release more Punk merchandise soon. Punk is also planned to be a bigger part of WWE programming and pay-per-views going into 2012. Word is that the company will be going "full blown" when it comes to Punk.

Regarding creative plans, Punk is scheduled to headline several upcoming pay-per-views with WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio. There's no word yet where John Cena will fit into the feud, if he will at all. Some have questioned WWE's booking of Punk as of late but it's said that WWE is trying to build sympathy for his losses as a part of something bigger.



does this mean we're headed towards a long Punk/ Del Rio storyline ??? I'm pretty sure Cena will soon start building up his match with Rock for WM and he has another box office on the way so I'll be interested to what'll take place. I heard Cena, Rock and Punk were supposed to team up for Survivor Series, but I could be mistaken.

God damn it
This is the whole fucking problem with the WWE. Why is Punk's t-shirt sales even a factor in whether or not they keep pushing him? Dude is one of the last real 'talkers' in a company of people that don't know how to talk or carry a feud. Push him for that reason, not his ability to sell t-shirts. ​

My Damn tee is fucked up... ..... ..... ..... DAMN!!

Why didn't they come out with a Booker T tee is beyond me... dude had so many quotes and two catch phrases....
Can you dig it.... Sucka!!

I would rock a "can you dig it.... sucka" tee shirt today ​

 

[Upgrade Dave]

God damn it
This is the whole fucking problem with the WWE. Why is Punk's t-shirt sales even a factor in whether or not they keep pushing him? Dude is one of the last real 'talkers' in a company of people that don't know how to talk or carry a feud. Push him for that reason, not his ability to sell t-shirts. ​

I feel you but if the company can't make money on you then you serve no purpose. The days of being a good talker and good wrestler being enough to be a main event guy are gone. Even in TNA, the reason Jeff Hardy (who started his 10 day jail sentence today) and Kurt Angle don't get fired despite repeated arrests is they sell merch while a Roxxi gets fired because they didn't like her promo on Impact! one night.

 

[jett42]

Apparently John Morrison tweeted this after Raw last night. If this is really him, I'm pretty sure he is on his way out of WWE.



“Thoughts I had tonight during RAW tonight in Lafayette…Damn, I just got my ass kicked…

…I wonder if John Laurintis’s current promo work is any indication of his aptitude as a wrestler during past in ring endeavors…

…HHH says we work for the WWE universe. Hmmm, yup, I agree with that… I wonder if he’s going to mention my birthday… nope.

…If the WWE universe is paying our checks maybe the pay scale among us independent contractors should be a bit more evenly distributed…maybe forming a union is a good idea… all other entertainment and sporting entities have them…getting an individual health insurance policy after neck surgery is not easy…I wonder if HHH has an individual health insurance plan, or gets group coverage because he’s classified as an employee…

…Wait a minute, when did we nominate @wadebarrett to speak on our behalf? … haha, Barrett talks like a pirate…
I like chaos! If they all leave & I stay, maybe HHH & I could do 5 backstage segments, an in ring promo, and an hour match next week! who am I kidding, HHH is a narcissist. He doesn’t think I’m at his level- His main concern is positioning himself as the center of attention …maybe walking out will get HHH to realize he can’t do this alone, the WWE Universe wants to see different people in the mix…there’s a roster full of superstars that want chaos, that want the ball, that want to be on the road at every WWE event…

…the past is always afraid of the future… HHH’s ego is hungry. He’s got a steak dinner every Monday night- but if he thinks his ego’s gonna snack elsewhere; I’m gonna eat his lunch

 

[Upgrade Dave]

It's him but he's working.

 

[jett42]

cool, thanks

 

[Upgrade Dave]

cool, thanks

It's his version of Punk's promo from earlier this year, except on Twitter.
We'll see what happens. He might work-shoot himself out of a job or he might get a new push. It's hard to tell with this company right now.

 

[Simply Sickenin']

It's him but he's working.

It's his version of Punk's promo from earlier this year, except on Twitter.
We'll see what happens. He might work-shoot himself out of a job or he might get a new push. It's hard to tell with this company right now.

I hope that was a work. Isn't he still in the dog house behind the foolish at WreslteMania and now he using words like "union."
Nothing gets people laid off faster than talking about getting people together to unionize.
You're crazy if you think the higher-ups are just going to sit back and let that shit happen.

David Stern probably working on a time machine right now, so he can break up the players' union before it ever started ​

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I hope that was a work. Isn't he still in the dog house behind the foolish at WreslteMania and now he using words like "union."
Nothing gets people laid off faster than talking about getting people together to unionize.You're crazy if you think the higher-ups are just going to sit back and let that shit happen.

David Stern probably working on a time machine right now, so he can break up the players' union before it ever started ​

He can ask Jesse Ventura what happens to guys who talk about unions working for Vince McMahon and he was a commentator at the time.

 

[jett42]

I was just watching this aftershow report with former wwe writer dave lagana, lilian garcia, and ex diva maria, and they were saying that Morrison's contract expires pretty soon. Anyone know anything about this?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I was just watching this aftershow report with former wwe writer dave lagana, lilian garcia, and ex diva maria, and they were saying that Morrison's contract expires pretty soon. Anyone know anything about this?

Really?

Interesting. If I hear anything about this, I'll post something.

 

[mrdiego2020]

WHAT KILLS ME ABOUT PEOPLE UP HERE TALKING IS , ITS JUST TALK! I LISTEN TO THE MANY BASHINGS ON CENA, BUT TRUTH IS THERE IS NOT ANOTHER DUDE IT THE INDUSTRY THAT WORKS HARDER THAN HIM! THIS IS WHY HE IS THE MAN.{C HIM PUNK} IS A GREAT WRESTLER BUT HE IS WHAT THAT CALL A FLY BY NIGHT WRESTLER, HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW, HARDIEST WORKERS I EVER SAW WAS HBK,HHH CENA,HOGAN, EAT BLEED DIE FOR THE COMPANY P.S MICK FOLEY N TAKER........ BUT REALLY IF YOU GUY HAD TO GO OUT EVERY NIGHT OR EVERY OTHER NIGHT AND DO THE THINGS THAY HAVE TO DO? YOU PROBLY COULDN'T ! SO STOP BEING ANGRY ABOUT A PRODUCT THAT YOU! KEEP WATCHING....... DONT LIKE IT! DONT WATCH IT!

 

[Upgrade Dave]

WHAT KILLS ME ABOUT PEOPLE UP HERE TALKING IS , ITS JUST TALK! I LISTEN TO THE MANY BASHINGS ON CENA, BUT TRUTH IS THERE IS NOT ANOTHER DUDE IT THE INDUSTRY THAT WORKS HARDER THAN HIM! THIS IS WHY HE IS THE MAN.{C HIM PUNK} IS A GREAT WRESTLER BUT HE IS WHAT THAT CALL A FLY BY NIGHT WRESTLER, HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW, HARDIEST WORKERS I EVER SAW WAS HBK,HHH CENA,HOGAN, EAT BLEED DIE FOR THE COMPANY P.S MICK FOLEY N TAKER........ BUT REALLY IF YOU GUY HAD TO GO OUT EVERY NIGHT OR EVERY OTHER NIGHT AND DO THE THINGS THAY HAVE TO DO? YOU PROBLY COULDN'T ! SO STOP BEING ANGRY ABOUT A PRODUCT THAT YOU! KEEP WATCHING....... DONT LIKE IT! DONT WATCH IT!

I'm one who thinks Cena gets a bad rap and has worked hard to be a better wrestler but c'mon bruh. If Hogan is one of the hardest workers you've ever seen, I question the amount of wrestling you've seen. Hogan works hard for Hogan, he was like that then and he's definitely like that now with TNA.
As people who want to enjoy wrestling and who want to spend time, money, and energy into, we do reserve the right to question many of the jacked up decisions made. We can always stop watching, millions of fans have according to the ratings but we don't. We want fresh, new product or at least recycled ideas are well executed. For me personally, it pains me to see them kill young guys like McIntyre, Ziggler, Swagger, and Dibiase.
I couldn't do it every night but shit, they couldn't take care of special needs adults like I do every day for a LOT less money so we're even.
Punk's a fly-by night wrestler?????? Really? Really? REALLY?
There are a ton of guys who are just critical to be critical, like Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. I get that and they irk me. They seem to think every guy is supposed to be a mix between Benoit/Malenko/Guerrero and work 60 minutes and do a bunch of flips and pseudo martial arts. I hate them. But that's not what happens in this thread. For the most part, we're willing to give everybody and everything a chance so when we get shit, we bitch, when they do something good, we praise.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Now what I came here to say

Big props to Khali
He's out and he put someone over on the way out like an old school guy.
He could have left and not helped make anyone like nearly everyone else (Flair, HBK, JBL, Austin).
WHY WWE WROTE GREAT KHALI OFF TELEVISION
by Mike Johnson @ 2:52 PM on 10/4/2011

The word going around over the weekend, as I noted in the PWInsider Elite section, was that Great Khali's deal was coming to an end and he wasn't likely to sign a new deal at this time. That is why WWE booked Mark Henry to "break" Khali's leg on Smackdown.

 

[dirtyd]

Here's what happens when a washed up couple have too much time on there hands.

So this happened like right now or something:

Quote:
Tito Ortiz's Twitter:
U ppl tell me. What's the description of the Peoples Champ?

Quote:
Tito Ortiz Twitter:
Ya but he isn't fact he is fiction. RT @cdpinaexpress: @titoortiz the rock...lol

Quote:
Tito Ortiz's Twitter:
Ya but I'm fact! And he is fiction! I have and always will be a fan but let's get real. U want to believe in smoke and mirrors or real life? RT @Capt_Hawkeye: No need for a description it will always be.... @TheRock RT @titoortiz: U ppl tell me. What's the description of the Peoples Champ?

Quote:
Tito Ortiz's Twitter:
I fight and you act! @TheRock #teambringit??


Quote:
The Rock's Twitter:
History - @titoortiz. 1967 Muhammad Ali creates "The People's Champ". 1998 Ali bestows the honor to The Rock - THE People's Champ.

So this Ortiz **** slut wife Jenna gets involved lol


Quote:

Jenna Jameson Twitter
Gotta weigh in on the @titoortiz and @TheRock feud, prowrestling is awesome entertainment, but MMA is REAL, not choreographed staged dancing

Maybe if Tito "acted" like he could fight he wouldn't keep getting his ass kicked

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Here's what happens when a washed up couple have too much time on there hands.


Maybe if Tito "acted" like he could fight he wouldn't keep getting his ass kicked

WTF? See, this twitter shit just has nothing good to offer. Now muhfuckas are twitter feuding and shit.

 

[mrdiego2020]

see im 36 years old my dude and i been watching for years ,hogan got greedy at the end when he started to see how grimey the business had became. but lets not for get that if it wasn't for him, we would'nt be watching this stale product that you speak of. And yes {c.him punk} is a fly by night dude i dont know what so special about this dude he a okay wrestler but thats it! if they gave everyone there own say so on the mic , alot of wrestlers would be saying the same thing. he not special on the mic, now shawn michaels was something on the mic! rock, hogan too.but thats all i got to say i'll always watch it no mater if cena the champ or zack galwin, im a wrestling fan and pround of it!

 

[c_commander]

WHAT KILLS ME ABOUT PEOPLE UP HERE TALKING IS , ITS JUST TALK! I LISTEN TO THE MANY BASHINGS ON CENA, BUT TRUTH IS THERE IS NOT ANOTHER DUDE IT THE INDUSTRY THAT WORKS HARDER THAN HIM! THIS IS WHY HE IS THE MAN.{C HIM PUNK} IS A GREAT WRESTLER BUT HE IS WHAT THAT CALL A FLY BY NIGHT WRESTLER, HERE TODAY GONE TOMORROW, HARDIEST WORKERS I EVER SAW WAS HBK,HHH CENA,HOGAN, EAT BLEED DIE FOR THE COMPANY P.S MICK FOLEY N TAKER........ BUT REALLY IF YOU GUY HAD TO GO OUT EVERY NIGHT OR EVERY OTHER NIGHT AND DO THE THINGS THAY HAVE TO DO? YOU PROBLY COULDN'T ! SO STOP BEING ANGRY ABOUT A PRODUCT THAT YOU! KEEP WATCHING....... DONT LIKE IT! DONT WATCH IT!

CM Punk is a fly by night wrestler? He's been wrestling for over a decade and spent most of that time in the indys moving up the ranks to the WWE.As a matter of fact it took him alot longer in part a Cena or HHH because he does not fit the WWE mold.And he has made it in spite of HHH not getting him,Vince McMahon not getting him and him being buried by execs within the company.While the guys you mentioned are all-time greats you are getting things twisted in that HBK definitely did things in his own self interest including not putting guys like Shane Douglas and Bret Hart over.Many people think that Hogan had something to do with the Starcade match with Sting putting the fix in on that match.Hogan is about Hogan most of the time which is why HBK pulled his stunt during their match and in not putting over Randy Orton

 

[Simply Sickenin']

Am I the only one the gets really irked at all the twiiter talk bs that people are doing - EX: @[insert name here]

It's more bothersome than people talking about themselves in the third person. Your talking about another person and you say @[insert name here]. Why not just say their name. ​

 

[dtownsfinest]

He never said he was "The People's champ of real wrestling". He simply said he was the People's Champ. Paul Wall the rapper called himself "The People's Champ" and he's not a athlete. Tito must be on some of that liquid cocaine right now. Being a fan favorite could be ANY FORM of entertainment.