It was Miz's first Mania main event but he had been champ and headlining for months by then. If he can't handle it, don't put him in that position. Cena's not Jerry Lawler, a 30+ yr vet, and Miz had shown he could handle himself and get heat. Just stick to the formula that's worked for 50 years.
THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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It was Miz's first Mania main event but he had been champ and headlining for months by then. If he can't handle it, don't put him in that position. Cena's not Jerry Lawler, a 30+ yr vet, and Miz had shown he could handle himself and get heat. Just stick to the formula that's worked for 50 years.
What in thee hell is they going to do with Daniel Bryan and him winning MITB.I think that was a goof up there LOL
Bryan's one of the best talents in the company but since I do NOT see them putting the World title on him, he will be the first guy to fail in cashing it in. Hope I'm wrong.
I said that they before that WWE should use him like Benoit was used. Have Bryan be the best pound for pound wrestler in the company. Orton is the only main eventer on the smackdow roster and there has to be a back up plan incase or an injury. Bryan is over with the fans so he's a good back up plan for the main eventer spot.
Bruh, that shit is a mess.
I'll wait for the pix to get online.
He can be blamed for sucking and they both sucked and the ending didn't help at all.
If WWE was a different kind of company, that put more emphasis on ring work, I would think he could be a main event guy but really, he's an IC title level guy.
Actually, I don't think Bryan is a world championship level guy at all, when I think about it. He wouldn't be WCW champ or NWA champ back in the day. He and Ric Flair would be having awesome matches but he would never win. He just doesn't have the overall big stage charisma and he's way too small. If he wasn't injured, Nigel McGuinness would have come in at the same time and he would be a bigger star in WWE just because he's taller and is better on the mic.
With Rey gone, I don't see SD with a strong number two face. All the weight is on the heel side: Christian, Henry, Barrett, Sheamus, Rhodes, and Dibiase. It's Orton, D-Bryan, Kane and Ezekiel Jackson.
Damn, that draft is looking worse and worse every day.
WWE announced Monday morning that Sin Cara has been suspended for 30 days due to a Wellness Policy violation.
He was temporarily written off television during last night's Money in the Bank pay-per-view. During Smackdown's Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Cara took a powerbomb through a Ladder and was stretchered out of the arena.
WWE's official statement reads:
Sin Cara suspended
STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy.
He was temporarily written off television during last night's Money in the Bank pay-per-view. During Smackdown's Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Cara took a powerbomb through a Ladder and was stretchered out of the arena.
WWE's official statement reads:
Sin Cara suspended
STAMFORD, Conn. – In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara) for 30 days for his first violation of the company’s policy.
That match was by far the Miz's biggest match.It wasn't Cena's biggest match.The match sucked and quite frankly if it wasn't for the Miz the buildup for the match would have sucked just as much.Cena did nothing for the match or the buildup for the match.
Any excitement generated for that match much like the match last night was generated by the heel and not Cena.People aren't excited to watch him and he is unable to get people to anticipate things that he is involved in and being that he is the top guy in the company that is sad and pathetic.Cena had a good match last night but let's not pretend like he's a good wrestler.He's a guy who gets in the same 5-6 moves every match with the exact same setup and a guy who can't or refuses to sell damage more than 30 seconds after taking it.Beat his ass for 30 minutes,watch him start his comeback and by move 3 it's like he wasn't at a disadvantage at any point during the match.
She's paying the price for messing with New Jack.He is totally in character of who he is so she can't act surprised about what he's doing.
It's a damn shame about Nigel because he could have been huge.As for Bryan he is a great wrestler who is so-so as a character and from a character standpoint would probably be better off as a heel.
Yes indeed and he's very much like Hogan and most top faces that the WWF/E has forced on us. But in general, the art of selling is lost in guys trying to find ways to cram in their favorite moves/spots. Watch most of the smaller guys who do a lot of acrobatic moves and how fast they get up after getting hit with a move that 10 years ago would have been a finish.
Yep but dude must have some real pimp talk. He's bagged Missy Hyatt (of course the value of that isn't what it used to be) and Terri Runnels. For a guy who looks like Jack, that's impressive.
In WWE, it would take a lot of work for him to be a heel because he's so small. With his size and style, he's a natural babyface because it should be easy to get heat on him. It's like AJ Styles in Impact Wrestling, he just should be a face.
The draft wouldn't be looking so bad if Edge haven't retired and then turning Christian heel. If Orton does ever have to miss some time Smackdown is going to be screwed. Bryan is smaller than Benoit, Bret, HBK, and even Rey in bulk, but I think it could work it they had to give him the number face spot. I perfer seeing Zeke as a face, I never liked seeing power guys get grounded by someone half their size. When Zeke goes on that body slam rampage to set up for the rack it sucks the life out of the match. Since Taker has shaved his head it really kills his deadman gimmick.
So niggas gon act like miz didn't have a concussion in the match? Miz noggin was rattled after that weird tackle on cena and even he admited it. Cena and miz have had some good matches, let's not act as if it was all on one guy.
Idk y wwe doesn't book him like they used to, back when he first started the whole thugganomics gimmick his inring work was good. Now u can just see that mcmahon doesn't want him injured. Its more wwe's fault than anything they could have stars on cenas level but they fail to push them because of hhh and his bitch tendencies. Niggas like y2j, and punk gotta do it themselves because hhh is a bitch and only pushes his friends.
The wwe was at its strongest when niggas like the rock and hhh were midcarders. So when scsa went down they had rising stars. Taker, mankind, dx, kane, multiple groups were what carried wwf and now its sad to see what backstage politics has done. Cena shouldn't have to be red shirted in our for the company to stay afloat.
If they keep him surrounded by bigger guys like Barrett, Zeke can work as a face but if he's going to be working smaller guys like Cody, you're going to have that problem you hate of a big guy getting ground down by a smaller guy all the time.
Thinking about D-Bryan as a heel, it could work but they would have to make the US/IC title the de-facto light heavy/cruiser title where most of his opponents were Sin Cara or other small guys.
Miz got his head rocked but that match sucked before that. But no, it's not on one guy.
This is where I disagree with you. I don't think it's the same kind of politics now as it was before. You're talking about a HHH from a long time ago. That guy is gone. The one guy who can be said to be pushed fast because of his friendship with HHH was Sheamus and you see how far that got him considering he went through the yo-yo treatment everybody else gets (push him hard, then job them out to see if they can handle it). The politics they have now involves writers who have no wrestling background or understanding of the business and guys who do not having the backbone of a Vince Russo to say "Vince, that shit sucks."
Cena's work was any better as the the Thuganomics guy than it is now, in fact it was worse. He just got to work with better people (Booker, Angle, Brock).
Punk parties it up in Chicago
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/18/wwe-champ-celebrates-on-the-chicago-streets-cm-punk-colt-cabana-ace-steel-john-cena-mike-ditka-money-in-the-bank-title-pepsi/
A little more on Sin Cara
From what I'm hearing, he got popped back in June for some type of steroid but they wanted to use him the ppv.
http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/18/wwe-champ-celebrates-on-the-chicago-streets-cm-punk-colt-cabana-ace-steel-john-cena-mike-ditka-money-in-the-bank-title-pepsi/
A little more on Sin Cara
From what I'm hearing, he got popped back in June for some type of steroid but they wanted to use him the ppv.
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He will be the first to lose. All during the ppv the announce team was saying whoever wins the match is a shoo-in for winning the title so at some point someone is going to lose so why not him. They have more invested in Del Rio than Bryan Daniel so I see him losing.
To each his own I guess, I remember Cena had a totally larger moveset. And his matches as well as promos were good. WWE tells him to do this shit, sure he could step p and be like "Vince that shit is horrible" but then why should he? You see what talking in the back does for niggas (CM punk, Jericho) they are at the top of the world and once they tell Vince to calm down then all of a sudden they are fighting for the fucking IC title against Kofi. Cena pockets a percentage of every piece of merchandise that's sold, so if I was him I wouldn't give a fuck if they made me a face or heel.
It's easy to say shoulda coulda woulda when sitting at home, but I get what you are saying though
I think that if he hadn't been fired for the tie incident he would have been better off.He would have been a heel and the primary workhorse for the Nexus.He would have gotten over and then made a face turn with more credibility as a wrestler and as a badass to the WWE audience.Would he have been the stereotypical WWE heel,no but with the submission gimmick,some stiff strikes and him cutting corners it would have worked because I think that Bryan is sound enough in ring to pull it off.Besides for me his 2 most memorable moments in the WWE are the initial Nexus attack and when he attacked Cole.Both of those times he was pissed off, aggressiveand people bought into it.
Besides they could always Daniel Bryan the Ken Kennedy treatment where he gets suckered into putting the Money in the Bank contract on the line in a match and loses.And then that person successfully cashes it in.
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Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
WWE announced Monday that Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde, who performs as Sin Cara, has been suspended for 30 days due to his first violation of the organization’s Talent Wellness Program.
WWE was reportedly notified of Sin Cara’s drug test failure in early June, but did not suspend him until today. He is believed to have tested positive for anabolic steroids, but we do not have that confirmed.
One backstage source believes that he may not be brought back.
Sin Cara was written off television during last night’s Money in the Bank pay-per-view. During the SmackDown Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Sheamus viciously powerbombed the masked grappler from the ring apron through a steel ladder. He was subsequently stretchered to the back by paramedics. To explain his absence from television, WWE.com announced this afternoon that he suffered a posterior fractured rib and will be sidelined for at least four weeks.
WWE announced Monday that Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde, who performs as Sin Cara, has been suspended for 30 days due to his first violation of the organization’s Talent Wellness Program.
WWE was reportedly notified of Sin Cara’s drug test failure in early June, but did not suspend him until today. He is believed to have tested positive for anabolic steroids, but we do not have that confirmed.
One backstage source believes that he may not be brought back.
Sin Cara was written off television during last night’s Money in the Bank pay-per-view. During the SmackDown Money in the Bank Ladder Match, Sheamus viciously powerbombed the masked grappler from the ring apron through a steel ladder. He was subsequently stretchered to the back by paramedics. To explain his absence from television, WWE.com announced this afternoon that he suffered a posterior fractured rib and will be sidelined for at least four weeks.
You're forgetting the 2 biggest political guys today and that's Cena & Orton
Sounds like someone wasn't ready for that 11min verbal ass whipping
And Orton gives people shit for fucking up spots
And Orton gives people shit for fucking up spots
If it were a johnny ace style cutter then it would've broken, but the fact is orton's rko is all flash and no substance.
That's funny since Johnny was in the back watching, doing a face palm. Randy need to call up DDP immediately and arrange for some lessons.
NoDQ.com > WWE > New WWE Champion To Be Crowned Tonight
Posted by Dave Mitchell on 07/18/2011 at 08:54 PM
WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon announced at the start of Monday's RAW that a new WWE champion to be crowned tonight!
An 8-man tournament will be held tonight to decide the champion. Here are the the 8 competitors and the first round matches:
* Mysterio vs. Ziggler
* Jack Swagger vs. R-Truth
* Kofi Kingston vs. Alberto Del Rio
* Alex Riley vs. The Miz
I guess they gave CM Punk the Trish Stratus treatment..a.k.a winning the title on your last night with the company.
Posted by Dave Mitchell on 07/18/2011 at 08:54 PM
WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon announced at the start of Monday's RAW that a new WWE champion to be crowned tonight!
An 8-man tournament will be held tonight to decide the champion. Here are the the 8 competitors and the first round matches:
* Mysterio vs. Ziggler
* Jack Swagger vs. R-Truth
* Kofi Kingston vs. Alberto Del Rio
* Alex Riley vs. The Miz
I guess they gave CM Punk the Trish Stratus treatment..a.k.a winning the title on your last night with the company.
I'm going to guess that whoever wins out of Mysterio/Ziggler will win the title.
I'm hoping for Kingston or Truth
I'm hoping for Kingston or Truth
Shit son, I thought Sin Cara was fucked up for real
They ladder was already cut
They ladder was already cut
I don't like this tournament shit.Of course,it would be great if Punk comes out during the finals and ruined the match so that there was no winner.Of course,I doubt that will be what happens.At this point I'm going with Del Rio or Miz.I would love to see Dolph win but they'll probably have Rey make it to the finals.
Kofi and R-Truth wont be winning, Del Rio has the MITB so he wont be winning, my money is on The Miz.
Now that Del Rio lost, he will use his MITB case at the end and win anyway
