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THE WRESTLING THREAD: HHH KEEPS DOING HHH THINGS.....
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Just catching up on the end of last week's Dynamite, and gonna start tonight's episode shortly.
TK must have something up his sleeve story wise. I'm interested to see how this plays out.
Ouch!
After giving it some thought I think I know how TK is gonna do it. Punk is not 100% so I think TK has pulled an audible and will bring MJF back next week to setup a three way for "All Out". I think then MJF wins the title by having Moxley eat the pin. MJF has his title reign and when Punk is back to 100% he beats MJF.
Like you said I can't tell if Kenny was selling or still struggling working his way back. But I felt this was a unnecessary spot for him to be taking.
He's said that some of these injuries may be permanent and he likely will never wrestle the same as he did.
It was weird seeing him in a t-shirt during the match.
He doesn't have enough of a personality to get over just on the mic like Stone Cold did when he got injured and came back.
His thing has always been all the flips and the gymnastics. Without a lot of that, he's a lesser version.
Not to mention it's a dumb and dangerous spot that can injure the fans sitting ringside.
One of these days a fan is going to get injured and sue AEW and TK.
.....He's right.
As much as a fan Benoit I was(second fav on the Vs. the Games on back in the day - killed it) - he's right.
Apparently CM Punk has heat backstage for that promo he did on Hangman last night. It wasn't apart of the script and essentially Punk went into business for himself. Made Hangman look bad by calling him a coward. Reports say it wasn't a work but we'll see.
That was out there. Because with Adam Page's current character, he'll pull up on you.
They can easily flip this by filming a video that shows that Adam wasn't there handling some cowboy shit or whatever, and he catches wind of what Punk said. Have him address it, but not with him giving a full response, just enough for us to know that Punk won't have to watch his back because wants Punk to say that shit to his face.
They can easily flip this by filming a video that shows that Adam wasn't there handling some cowboy shit or whatever, and he catches wind of what Punk said. Have him address it, but not with him giving a full response, just enough for us to know that Punk won't have to watch his back because wants Punk to say that shit to his face.
Didn't watch Dynamite, but reading about whatever CM Punk said, he's such tool. Real bitch made shit.
It makes me wonder if all the shit he spoke of from his time in WWE was really as horrible as it was, or if he was just a fucking arrogant asshole. There's always three sides to a story but he's always came off toxic as fuck.
I have a feeling he's going to eventually wear out his welcome in AEW and TK may have to make a decision between him and their other, younger, stars...
Especially at the amount he's being paid, if his isn't bringing in killer numbers, why bother with an asshole who could demoralize the lockeroom like that.
It makes me wonder if all the shit he spoke of from his time in WWE was really as horrible as it was, or if he was just a fucking arrogant asshole. There's always three sides to a story but he's always came off toxic as fuck.
I have a feeling he's going to eventually wear out his welcome in AEW and TK may have to make a decision between him and their other, younger, stars...
Especially at the amount he's being paid, if his isn't bringing in killer numbers, why bother with an asshole who could demoralize the lockeroom like that.
I'm all for it. Shake shit up. That's what the business needs right now. Everything feels so staged and choreographed in both companies.
I don't mind seeing a guy shoot from the hip every now and then.
Page comes off as soft anyways with his butterfly pants. LOL. He was the weakest world champion I've seen in a LONG time.
This is the wrestling business. If Page doesn't like what he said, come back next week and cut a promo back on Punk.
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The thing that's confusing is why is Punk saying this stuff about Hangman now? Moxley is the interim World Champion. Punk's focus should be completely on him as that's the match that's being sold not a rematch with Hangman. From my understanding Punk didn't like a promo that Hangman cut months back on the go home Dynamite prior to their match at Double or Nothing. If he didn't like that promo he should've spoken to Hangman about it face to face behind closed doors. Not waste airtime trying to sell a match that isn't going to happen.
So Okada beats Ospreay to win the G1 Climax. I absolutely hate this booking decision. Gedo over pushes Okada all the fucking time. Why not give the rub to Ospreay, Naito or Jonah? Okada didn't need to win this again.
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So Punk got butt hurt about this promo. Why not say something to Hangman right then and there? Why are you taking about Hangman now? I'll be honest with you I was never a big CM Punk fan in the first place because I find him overrated in the ring. Yeah, Hangman may not be the best promo but he delivers in the ring.
Words from Kenny after Dynamite went off the air Wednesday night.
Lolz AEW moved Punk vs Moxley to next week on Dynamite?
Reeks of desperation....either Punk really is quiting and they want the title off him asap or they're getting nervous that Punk and Omega returning didnt improve their ratings this week.
How the fuck do you move a title unification match to regular cable when you have your top PPV in a few weeks...especially when one of the wrestlers in said match is nursing an injury that extra time could help him with?
Something is up....
Reeks of desperation....either Punk really is quiting and they want the title off him asap or they're getting nervous that Punk and Omega returning didnt improve their ratings this week.
How the fuck do you move a title unification match to regular cable when you have your top PPV in a few weeks...especially when one of the wrestlers in said match is nursing an injury that extra time could help him with?
Something is up....
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If I wasn't so broke I would definitely go. I've never seen a NJPW show live.
If this isn't somehow setting up an MJF return, yeah, this reeks of desperation and hot-shoting 101 to try and pop a rating
Punk has the right to be arrogant, if he in fact has been. His debut is still the biggest rating AEW has ever pulled.
He still brings in the casual wrestling fans who don't even care for AEW that much.
What has Hangman done to move the needle?
As I've said a million times, being a great wrestler isn't just about doing a bunch of cool moves.
You have to have the total package. Promo, personality/persona, confidence in and out of the ring, etc.
Punk carries himself like a champion. When Hangman had the title, he came off like a guy pretending to be a champion. Big difference.
Yeah man, makes no sense. Also, damn typos on my end lolz
And that was based off of a 7 year nostalgia driven anticipation of him coming back. He came back and the nostalgia wore off. The ratings went back down. People realized that while Punk is great on the mic he's an average wrestler and when you're dealing with a workrate based promotion/fanbase just being hot on the mic isn't going to cut it.
I don't care about casuals. Casuals come and go.
This isn't the 80s/90s anymore. The whole mentality of one person moving the needle is dead. It's about being consistent in delivering a quality product that TV executives are happy with and judging from the collaborative theme shows such as "shark week" and Wednesday nights's "House Of The Dragon" show Discovery/Warner execs have a great amount of faith in the AEW brand.
And I've said a million times that this all depends on the promotion. What's valued in one promotion is not be valued in another. In WWE/NWA they value mic skills and gimmick over everything else. In AEW/NJPW/AAA/ROH/NOAH they value workrate then gimmick then mic skills. There's no such thing as the total package. Every wrestler that's ever been in the business has had a deficiency in one area. There's never been a wrestler that's been excellent across the board. It simply doesn't exist. What makes a great wrestler is you being great in one area and highlighting that strength. Great Muta/Keiji Muto never spoke a lick of English but if you ask anybody in the business and they'll tell you he's one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time.
You see things through the WWE lens of how a champion is is supposed to be presented. While that works for certain wrestlers not every wrestler should be put in the same box of presentation.
TK needs to grow some balls and shut the drama down.
......spot on. We never agree on everything but this, absolutely.
