THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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They kinda already did that. That time when most of Smackdown was stuck in Saudi Arabia before Survivor Series and Hunter did the invasion angle. They actually put NXT over at Survivor Series, WWE just never followed up on it or acknowledged NXT as a third brand again.
I hear you but they worked with him last night. Other than that they haven't been brought up in months. And being part of the biggest promotion ain't always positive for your career, ask Keith, Aleister, and countless others that haven't been booked right.
They are making a living in wrestling and eating well. Not every wrestler in WWE will see the big spotlight. Would Impact be a better place for them, financially? Career wise? Would they even want to make that change? Man, let's keep it real, if you have been a wrestling fan all your life and make it to the WWE, sniffed the spotlight with the WWE Champion for a few months and continue to be booked in matches (Main Event and Raw), you can't really complain.
Hell, where is Shelton going to go at this point of his career/life? Dude is old, and is eating well in WWE. He ain't going to do any better in Impact. No guarantees that AEW would be calling and they probably don't want to go to Japan or Mexico.
That's wild because the new talent that he's had that's gotten over have all been products of NXT. You take away all those guys that made it through NXT....shit WWE product would be a fucking mess right now.
Yeah and I would think they know their position especially Shelton. I hate they broke them up but I mean they putting Bobby over shouldn't be what makes them ask for their release.
That's like Mickie James. She came back to help Alexa. They def should have given her one last championship reign, even to lose and give Alexa one more bogus chip. Mickie is back in NWA and will have a shit end to her career, Shelton needs to work with the younger talent and end his career in WWE instead of one of these other companies. Get, "The World's Greatest Tag Team", in the WWE Hall of Fame and eat off that.
Alicia Fox = JJ Dillon or Bobby Heenan behind them.
How much embarrassing wrestling is AEW gonna put on?
That Nick Gage Jericho match last night was an embarrassment to wrestling and now they're bringing back a has-been from 20+ years ago?
I saw at the beginning of the show they had Omega and the Young Bucks dressed like kids in Space Jam outfits dunking basketballs
That Nick Gage Jericho match last night was an embarrassment to wrestling and now they're bringing back a has-been from 20+ years ago?
I saw at the beginning of the show they had Omega and the Young Bucks dressed like kids in Space Jam outfits dunking basketballs
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How much embarrassing wrestling is AEW gonna put on?
That Nick Gage Jericho match last night was an embarrassment to wrestling and now they're bringing back a has-been from 20+ years ago?
I saw at the beginning of the show they had Omega and the Young Bucks dressed like kids in Space Jam outfits dunking basketballs
AEW is effectively a Super Indy and alternative to WWE. Everything they do doesn't hit for me (I prefer NXT in general) but their hardcore fan base loves it and they are legit WWE competitor. Most casual fans have no idea who Gage is but the AEW fanbase ate it up.
I am happy Legit talents like Black, Andreda, Miro, Brody, Eddie, etc get a legit chance to shine. AEW tries to hide their weaknesses where WWE held it against them.
AEW's biggest advantage is that with the talent the have, the live shows will be fun for those in attendance because it feels like super Indy show. They just have to have the right pace with their storylines, and setup their secondary tv show to utilize who they don't push heavy on Dynamite. The question is, will the use that as a continuation to Dynamite, have it be a stand-alone thing with guys exclusive to that show, or have it be a televised payoff show for the web shows. Technically they'll have four shows.
I personally have no problem with hardcore deathmatch wrestling. I loved ECW when it was around. Even went to one of their shows and the atmosphere was electric. I also grew up watching death matches from the Japanese promotion Frontier Martial-Arts Wrestling (FMW). The exploding barbed wire deathmatches were amazing. With that said I understand that it's not for everyone. The stuff that Gage/Jericho did was tame compared to the stuff I've seen in the past.
AEW is made up of different fans. You have the traditional fans who just want old school NWA style wrestling; you have workrate fans who are into New Japan style wrestling. You have fans that like lucha libre ; you have fans who like deathmatch wrestling etc, etc. AEW tries their best to cater to each one of those fans. I love it because it keeps things fresh. If you have a show where it's all one style of wrestling it'll get boring real quick.
In the context of the storytelling it makes sense.
I saw at the beginning of the show they had Omega and the Young Bucks dressed like kids in Space Jam outfits dunking basketballs
The Elite are troll heels. They do that kind of stuff because they know it's going to piss people off. That's why the Bucks come out in more ridiculous outfits each time they wrestle. Trolling is the way heels get heat these days.
WWE tried to do a deal with NJPW just to keep Bryan because he wants to work with them. But knowing WWE, they probably wanted to handcuff New Japan and job their guys out. Bryan wants to work with whoever he wants and the only other new thing WWE could've did was have him work NXT. He's done just about all there is to do in WWE and this might be his last run so it only makes sense he goes to AEW where he can do what he wants.
WWE had absolutely no interest in bringing Punk back.
I was with you until you said the best version of the Horsemen was with Luger....
The best version of the Horsemen was Flair, Windham, Arn and Tully...and it ain't close...
You're right, I don't care for hardcore death matches. Never have, never will.
I feel like the audience of people really into that kind of thing is small compared to the other styles you mentioned. So why feature it on national TV?
Leave that stuff for the underground Japanese promotions and outlaw mud shows.
IMO the risk of alienating fans (and potential sponsors) does not outweigh the audience that are really into it.
Regarding Omega and the Young Bucks, it feels like they're playing the roles of cartoon villains (literally) rather than traditional heels.
Nothing about that screams "heat" to me.
People casually watching or flipping channels are more likely to roll their eyes and change the channel than want to see them get their asses kicked.
The audience for hardcore death matches is larger than you think. That style of wrestling has been around since the '80s. There's a reason why people still talk about ECW to this day. If it wasn't for Paul Heyman mismanaging the promotion and overall being a horrible business man ECW would still be around today hotter than ever.
This wasn't the first hardcore style match they've had on dynamite. They've been doing this since the promotion started and the product is hotter than ever. It's increasing in ratings not driving people off. Infact ,TNT executives said they're okay with the blood and violence. It would be hypocritical for them not to be considering the shows and movies that they show on their network.
AEW doesn't really cater to casuals. You either get it or you don't. Some will flip on AEW and like it some will flip on it and not like it. You can't change what got you to the dance as a promotion to suit some random casual flipping a channel. You are what you are.
We might see Sasha forming that stable w/o Bianca after seeing how Smackdown just ended
I liked Wyatt but I blame him and WWE for the failure with his character.
His character was cool during the early Wyatt family era, but he just kept losing steam due to shitty storytelling and I don't think he was doing himself any favors.
Hope wherever he ends up (AEW) he gets used better. I'll believe it when I see it though.
He could have been great but the writing and booking killed his career im WWE.
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No more FIEND??? DAMN.
They let go Aleister Black, now The Fiend himself? Who's going to be WWE's resident Boogie man now(except the acutal Boogieman)?
AEW should sign Wyatt and make him the new leader of the "Dark Order". What a way to pay homage to his passing friend.
Alexa Bliss basically took his gimmick and ran with it. Wyatt was sitting home dealing with mental health issues so there was no reason to keep him signed and paid when he wasn't doing shit.
Will miss him but his Fiend character was ruined too soon when it was sacrificed to Oldberg.
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I can't believe this shit....
WWE don't give a fuck this year they just sat here and built a whole match at Mania over his return just for him to disappear again...
Yeah WWE got into its own way because the Wyatt Family should've taken over Smackdown.
That was WWE's future right there with The Shield and Wyatt Family. They have nothing to show for that era at all other than Seth and Roman.
I don't even know how much blame I'd put on him. He did the best with whatever route they took him.