THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!
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So basically Gresham had a vision for his character/booking however TK thought differently. Gresham thinks just being a great technical wrestler should be enough but that's not how things work. Gresham is like 5' 2 with a bland character. That's not World Championship material. He should've never been world champion in the first place.
TK is trying to get ROH a weekly TV deal and it's going to look better from an optics standpoint to Discovery/ Warner Media execs if your world champion looks legit. Gresham ain't it. He believed in his own hype and when somebody didn't see it his way he got pissed and now wants to leave. He doesn't see the bigger picture. I hope someone can talk some sense into him.
Turning a guy heel a week before a PPV with minimal contact with his PPV opponent and then putting him with a manager who is also gone a week later seems like a failure on Tony Khan's part. Gresham having a different vision is on Gresham. Being 5'2 but a legitimate wrestler should have been fine being that he is on ROH and had been for awhile now. He's short but he looks like an athlete. Being that it's ROH and he had been well established there him being champion wasn't far fetched at all. And if he's been trying to get in touch with Khan who blew those concerns off until just before the PPV then that is also on Khan.
Plans change.
TK is trying to take ROH to the next level and you're not going to do that with a champion that's 5'2. It doesn't matter what Gresham did in ROH prior to Tony buying the company. New owner! New vision! It's as simple as that.
TK is a busy dude. Could the communication have been a little better? Sure but at the end of the day Gresham wasn't going to change TK's mind. Nobody knows who Gresham is outside of ROH.
He needs to get out of his feelings and get over it. Dude's damn near a midget so he ain't going to the WWE. He has no where else to go.
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Sounds more like piss poor planning. All of that happened just before the PPV to a relaunched brand that still has no concrete set up
Hard to take it to the next level while pretty much doing nothing with it. He had the 1 event and then nothing for months until a last minute announcement of a PPV. And then that had little to no buildup. And why are we fixating on his height when he looks more like a legitimate athlete and wrestler than many people that Khan has pushed or had on TV regularly like Jungle Boy, Chuck Taylor, Darby Allin,etc.
What does that matter? Using that rationale they should bring in Ryback and have him win a title cause people know him. How many people including those I referenced earlier weren't known anywhere until AEW? Besides he's gone and wrestled in Progress and New Japan,etc so he's plied his trade. I don't know what his hangup was/is and I'd rather have the belt on Claudio but I'm not going to take Tony Khan's side when he has seemed to f this up with a guy who hasn't seemed to have any issues previously. Maybe Khan should either have these plans laid out more concretely, more in advance and have less on his plate.
Cause hey it's just the world title match on a PPV for a brand that you're relaunching that you have such big plans for
AEW = StephenBut, but, but, but TK is BROWN! He's a POC! Shouldn't that be all that matters?
TK = Calvin Candie.
AEW Stans be like this whenever TK is critized for his fuckery...
This is good news.
I expect countless released stars to return.
Also expect Sasha and Naomi to make their way back to WWE....
Vince flew too close to the sun. He's basically Chump who got away with a whole lot and now things are coming back biting him on the ass.
Dumbest thing he could do is use money from a Publicly Traded Company to fund his Caligula Sexcapades....
He's gonna get got and probably be forced to sell his shares too.
Dumbest thing he could do is use money from a Publicly Traded Company to fund his Caligula Sexcapades....
He's gonna get got and probably be forced to sell his shares too.
Yep. All the other stuff with the paralegal and was mostly just scandalous headlines.
Using company money from a publicly traded company and not reporting it to the public and SEC is something that could actually put him behind bars.
Seems guys like him eventually get drunk with power and end up doing something stupid to lose it all.
Can we stop talking about dudes height like there aren't small champions. Yes I am talking about Bryan Danielson who is 5'10 and that 6 inches is a world of difference when you're that height, but this is the same shyt that they say about him.
This just seems odd that this blew up the way it did, curious what John's actual beef is with turning heel
Summerslam is a wash. It's too close to make meaningful changes. I do expect a big Season Premiere type promotion and that's where we will see the true changes. Maybe it's the day after Summerslam, maybe it's in the fall to coincide with other tv shows. Just unfortunate that one of the big four ppvs and a stadium show is going to be a waste
Nah, dude is like super short. There's a big difference between being 5'9 or 5'10 and being his height.
He's even short compared to a lot of the AEW guys who are on the smaller size.
At least Danielson has personality. This guy brings nothing else to the table.
Pac and John Silver are around the same height, are they not?
Shit, Rey Mysterio is a midget and he's done quite alright for himself....
Mysterio sells a shitload of merch, is basically a cartoon character come to life, and appeals to the Latino fanbase. In other words, he brings in money.
What has this guy accomplished that he feels he gets to throw a hissy fit when things don't go his way?
Now. But it wasn't always like that.
I really don't care either way, but adjusting the direction for their world Champion just before the show and making all those changes is a bad look.
And again, I can't help but notice this happening to a Black wrestler.....
Was it a hissy fit for not getting his way or being pissed off because of piss poor planning. They do the 1rst thing with ROH and other than Lethal and his people doing some promos there's been nothing until the PPV announcement, then a sudden turn complete with a new manager and faction. Then within a week both were done.
Say what you will with Tony Khan consistency has not been his strong suit this far
You're never gonna see me championing TK on here as a booker, especially when it comes to black wrestlers.
To me the way he's treated black wrestlers hasn't been much different from the way WWE treats its black talent as of late.
When he does push a black wrestler it's mostly for PR purposes.
I still think Gresham could have handled this situation much better, especially considering he doesn't have much leverage to go elsewhere due to being undersized and bland.
Both things can be true at the same time.
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