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THE WRESTLING THREAD: BROCK LESNAR HAS ENTERED THE CHAT!!!

WWE is definitely recycling a bunch of matches, however Roman/Brock are the only two men on their roster who could sell out a football stadium, and SummerSlam is taking place in one.

As much as I like Lashley, I just don't see him moving the needle like Brock would if he were to face Roman instead. Same thing with Rollins or anyone else on their roster.
 
EPDC said:
WWE is definitely recycling a bunch of matches, however Roman/Brock are the only two men on their roster who could sell out a football stadium, and SummerSlam is taking place in one.

As much as I like Lashley, I just don't see him moving the needle like Brock would if he were to face Roman instead. Same thing with Rollins or anyone else on their roster.
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to a degree but who fault is that?
WWE doesn’t build anyone then act like it’s not their fault that no one has been built up?
Roman is part time, Brock is part time, the titles aren’t on tv…why watch the programming week to week?
who got Next?
 
gdatruth said:
to a degree but who fault is that?
WWE doesn’t build anyone then act like it’s not their fault that no one has been built up?
Roman is part time, Brock is part time, the titles aren’t on tv…why watch the programming week to week?
who got Next?
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Lolz Theory, Matt Riddell, Bron Steiner, Montez Ford....

WWE is building them as the next stars, they just aren't there yet.
 
EPDC said:
Lolz Theory, Matt Riddell, Bron Steiner, Montez Ford....

WWE is building them as the next stars, they just aren't there yet.
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I’ll believe it when I see it
The same way Keith Lee, Big E, Finn, Kofi had next
Or the way Bray was supposed to be the new Undertaker
Or Strauman was supposed to be the new Big Show/Special attraction

who is the last wrestler the company has built and constiently gotten behind…Bianca and Becky…who on the men’s side?
 
gdatruth said:
to a degree but who fault is that?
WWE doesn’t build anyone then act like it’s not their fault that no one has been built up?
Roman is part time, Brock is part time, the titles aren’t on tv…why watch the programming week to week?
who got Next?
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At LEAST Roman is on TV. So he's would be part-time while Brock is part-part-time
 
0utsyder said:
At LEAST Roman is on TV. So he's would be part-time while Brock is part-part-time
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I don’t watch but listen to a few podcasts and read recaps. They all say Roman isn’t there week to week. He’ll show up to Smackdown here or there but is almost never at Raw. He has also only defended the title ONCE since beating Brock. I guess that’s best for business.
 
gdatruth said:
to a degree but who fault is that?
WWE doesn’t build anyone then act like it’s not their fault that no one has been built up?
Roman is part time, Brock is part time, the titles aren’t on tv…why watch the programming week to week?
who got Next?
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It should be Bobby and Drew, and Bray and Braun, but they booked them like shit and had them jobbing out to Goldberg. Now Goldberg is (assumingly) retired and two of them niggas is fired.

Throw in Seth, AJ, Randy to go with Roman and Brock, and they had the people to have a full main event scene. It's just that they choose to make the main event scene about two people.

Brock and Roman can have their own matches on the card. You can have Brock put over Montez. They can do the Drew/Roman or Seth/Roman matches they never did. But they rather do this shit again, like they gone do something new. And they will do Brock/Roman again before the end of the year.

They literally have no choice but to put these titles on Cody, because they haven't ruined Cody yet, they haven't had enough time. And he needs to resist every inclination of returning before the Royal Rumble so they don't make him do Seth/Cody for the 4th time so they don't bury Seth any further.
 
Recently watched my first Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling show. The "Additional Attack 22" show. What the fuck did I just watch? That shit was beyond silly. Too many cutesy/kiddy gimmicks/story narratives going on. The show is written like it's produced for 10 year olds. Don't get me wrong Stardom has some cutesy stuff too but not to this degree. I watched this show to see Yuka Sakazaki but came out of it being a fan of Arisu Endo. That woman is so smooth and fluid in the ring. Very impressed with her work. I'll probably watch another show because I want to see the Thunder Rosa/Miyu Yamashita match. Hopefully things improve.
 
gdatruth said:
I’ll believe it when I see it
The same way Keith Lee, Big E, Finn, Kofi had next
Or the way Bray was supposed to be the new Undertaker
Or Strauman was supposed to be the new Big Show/Special attraction

who is the last wrestler the company has built and constiently gotten behind…Bianca and Becky…who on the men’s side?
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It takes two to tango. WWE creative is shit, but you're also giving them too much credit. Some wrestlers also have to take ownership for not being booked better.
  • Keith Lee was never going to be The Guy. He should have been a monster but came off as soft and also got sick.
  • Big E got hurt but had his little run with the title. He was never going to sell out a stadium.
  • Kofi caught lighting in a bottle and had a decent run with the title, was never going to sell out a stadium.
  • Bray had his (personal) issues and had two runs. Never sold out shows though...
  • Strowman has done next to nothing since leaving.
None of those guys I mentioned will be/would be superstars on Taker/Rock/Cena/Brock/Reigns status elsewhere....

As far as the last wrestler WWE built up? Well, Roman Reigns, duh! Lolz

The next one, looks to be Theory, Riddle, Montez, Bron Steiner....so long as they (WWE creative AND talent) don't mess it up.
 
EPDC said:
It takes two to tango. WWE creative is shit, but you're also giving them too much credit. Some wrestlers also have to take ownership for not being booked better.
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sure there are factors like health and good luck that come into play but responsibility isnt split evenly when 1 person decides everything in a scripted show and when that one person effectively controlled mainstream wresting in America until recently

EPDC said:
As far as the last wrestler WWE built up? Well, Roman Reigns, duh! Lolz

The next one, looks to be Theory, Riddle, Montez, Bron Steiner....so long as they (WWE creative AND talent) don't mess it up.
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yep all it took was
  • 10 years
  • putting roman with indie darilings like Seth & Moxley from the jump
  • putting Roman over almost everyone from DB to Bray to Strauman to Shemus to HHH to AJ Styles to Brock
  • putting Roman in programs with Cena
  • trying to get Roman the Rock rub and failing
  • a relapse of cancer
  • and a world wide epidmeic
but finally let Roman be himself and get over. Good job by creative.

if we count Randy (injured), Cena (semi-retired), Reigns (part-time), Brock (part-time) and Edge (part-time)...WWE has 'created' 5 stars in 30 years
for the sakes of everyone you just mentioned hopefully they do a better job with them then did with Roman but i wouldnt hold my breath and the last 20-30 years have proven creative/vince shouldnt get the benefit of the doubt

but yeah blame everyone but creative & vince as the reason why they dont have A+ list talent other than Roman & Brock
curious to see what happens when Brock/Roman steps away for good
 
fu2 said:
So I guess WWE as a whole is done with women's tag team divisions

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XXXplosive said:
They're pointless championships to have anyway. No promotion has ever really cared to have Women's tag belts.
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pretty much and although they handled the situation poorly…I understand why Sasha and Naomi were frustrated to the point they walked out

WWE and Vince doesn’t care about tag team wrestling and could careless about women tag teams. Those belts were placeholders to keep wrestlers like Sasha, Bayley and Asuka something to do til they took an L to Charlotte, Rhonda or Becky. It’s unfortunate because between the 3 brands there are a lot talented performers not being used

they pretty much validated Sasha and Naomi point
 
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