The Walking Dead/Zombie Thread

[Jagi]

I'm really getting tired of people saying that "THE WALKING DEAD" comic and now TV series is a "28 DAYS LATER" rip-off.

"28 DAYS LATER" didn't not even have the emotional impact of either media.

I just got back into the comic book series again after laying off of it for over a year. That due to I felt was a very lousy plot point in "Prison" storyline.

But I've caught up until issue #78 this weekend. And this series has not lost any of it's emotion. People tend to forget that the series is more about humanity itself than the zombies. It tells us that even with a singular prevailing threat, we still haven't changed very much.

a couple of co workers said they didn't watch the rest of the episode because the intro in the hospital was too reminiscent 28 days later. which i agreed to and mentioned that it was the same in the comic and that there are but so many ways a story like this can begin and they should get past the intro and give it another shot, which they will, i think the time slot is also a problem, too late for some on a night before the first day of the work week.

 

[Megazell]

a couple of co workers said they didn't watch the rest of the episode because the intro in the hospital was too reminiscent 28 days later. which i agreed to and mentioned that it was the same in the comic and that there are but so many ways a story like this can begin and they should get past the intro and give it another shot, which they will, i think the time slot is also a problem, too late for some on a night before the first day of the work week.

28 Days Later took that intro from 'The Horror' and 'The Hoard' series of H.P Lovecraft.

Part of the reason why I hate when books/comics go mainstream through movies/films is that people show their lack of imagination and illiteracy when they simply jump on the bandwagon with group thought and nonsense like what you guys described above.

 

[Jagi]

that's that part when they covered themselves with dead zombie entrails to throw off the scent

 

[Tazirai]

Watch the show right now, everything is good so far but did they change something about how the zombies act. Like the father and son's mother that was a zombie was trying to open the door?? So they made them so they can think? Or did they just do it for the story

Think of it like when people have amnesia. There are some things in life that BECOME instinct.. Driving, walking, going back home without realizing you were doing it. Some things become memory with instinct thrown in.

 

[Tazirai]

The Ratings are in 5.3 million viewers watched it. HIGHEST ratings EVER for AMC.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/11/01/the-walking-dead-ratings-amc/

 

[Megazell]

Think of it like when people have amnesia. There are some things in life that BECOME instinct.. Driving, walking, going back home without realizing you were doing it. Some things become memory with instinct thrown in.

Yeah...like procedural memory...

Memory is too strong of a word. Though, I am sure the show will use the word. It's a procedural instinct they have. It actually happens in RL to corpse sometimes. Like when a person loses their head but still continues to fire a gun and/or move their legs to run with no brain sending signals.

 

[Jagi]

The Ratings are in 5.3 million viewers watched it. HIGHEST ratings EVER for AMC.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/11/01/the-walking-dead-ratings-amc/

'The Walking Dead' Earns Record Ratings for AMC


It was a gamble, but premiering 'The Walking Dead' on Halloween night paid off for AMC -- big time.

How big? To the tune of 5.3 million total viewers and a 3.6 million share in the 18-49 demo. According to the Live Feed, 'The Walking Dead' was AMC's biggest premiere ever and highest rated episode ever.

"It's a good day to be dead. We are so proud of this series, its depth of storytelling and the remarkable talent attached," AMC President Charlie Collier said in a statement. "As the network dedicated to bringing viewers the best stories on television, we are so pleased to have the opportunity with 'The Walking Dead' to raise the bar within this popular genre and continue our commitment to being the home of premium television on basic cable."

Factoring in 11:30PM and 1AM airings, 'The Walking Dead' (Sun., 10PM on AMC) pulled in a total of 8.1 million viewers and a household rating of 6.0.

The premiere pulled in the highest 18-49 share of any cable network premiere so far this year.

'The Walking Dead' tells the tale of Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln) and a group of survivors living in the outskirts of Atlanta, desperately trying to hold onto their humanity while living through a zombie apocalypse. The series is based on the comic books by Robert Kirkman, Tony Moore and Charlie Adlard.

"'The Walking Dead' is that rare piece of programming that works on so many levels. It is legitimately great storytelling that is not only highly entertaining, but incredibly thought provoking as well," Joel Stillerman, senior vice president of original programming, production and digital content at AMC, said in a statement. "People who are familiar with the comic books know what's coming, but suffice it to say, this is only the beginning of a long, intense, and powerful ride. Long live 'The Walking Dead.'"





dude is going to start selling some comics off of this too, could help jump start the digital comic market. especially following the kick-ass success and hopefully nemesis getting a movie.

 

[Tazirai]

Yeah...like procedural memory...

Fail on my part Zell hahaha. didnt read long enough heh.

 

[jwo777]

I'm really getting tired of people saying that "THE WALKING DEAD" comic and now TV series is a "28 DAYS LATER" rip-off.

"28 DAYS LATER" didn't not even have the emotional impact of either media.

I just got back into the comic book series again after laying off of it for over a year. That due to I felt was a very lousy plot point in "Prison" storyline.

But I've caught up until issue #78 this weekend. And this series has not lost any of it's emotion. People tend to forget that the series is more about humanity itself than the zombies. It tells us that even with a singular prevaling threat, we still haven't changed very much.

I cosign with this.

 

[LSN]

Damn just started watching...dude blasts the "little girl" from the jump shit...guess this series ain't planning on holding back

 

[LSN]

a couple of co workers said they didn't watch the rest of the episode because the intro in the hospital was too reminiscent 28 days later. which i agreed to and mentioned that it was the same in the comic and that there are but so many ways a story like this can begin and they should get past the intro and give it another shot, which they will, i think the time slot is also a problem, too late for some on a night before the first day of the work week.

Ya my guess is ppl who say that didn't read/watch past that part of the story/show

 

[LSN]

Damn so far this shit is every bit as grim as the comic

This shit is gonna fuck me up

 

[LSN]

Yo this show may be a victim of it's success...shit is too real...not just violence-wise but emotionally...shit is hard to watch...when I was reading the comic the pure realness of it didn't hit me...shit is depressing as fuck

And the casting is great btw...only person who don't really look like the comic character is Rick

 

[LSN]

That was an amazing 1st ep!

 

[LSN]

The Ratings are in 5.3 million viewers watched it. HIGHEST ratings EVER for AMC.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/11/01/the-walking-dead-ratings-amc/

Glad to hear that

 

[kidmegaii]

Saturday Night I had a dream i was fucking a zombie lily thai

The Ratings are in 5.3 million viewers watched it. HIGHEST ratings EVER for AMC.

http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/11/01/the-walking-dead-ratings-amc/

 

[2nd2none]

so zombies can pick up rocks and break in to store fill with people now

 

[Megazell]

so zombies can pick up rocks and break in to store fill with people now

You ever seen 'Night Of The Living Dead' by George Romero?

 

[lowlite]

You ever seen 'Night Of The Living Dead' by George Romero?

I have and I don't remember zombies picking up objects to break through barriers, just the weight of enough zombies would break the barriers. Maybe I missed something. I too am disturbed by the resourcefulness of these zombies. Don't need no smart zombies.....those fuckas......

 

[Megazell]

I have and I don't remember zombies picking up objects to break through barriers, just the weight of enough zombies would break the barriers. Maybe I missed something. I too am disturbed by the resourcefulness of these zombies. Don't need no smart zombies.....those fuckas......

You should re-watch the original black and white movie because the first zombie they ever showed used a rock to break the glass of the car...he also tried to open the car door by the handle.



1:57 mark to 2:22 mark

Zombies have always been able to use stuff but...but....but...a slew of other zombies movie show them stupid as fuck...George Romero never wrote them that way...even later on during the film some of the zombies appear with things in their hands like branches and other objects.

The way George wrote them was that some would and some won't...why that is? It's up to you to define/decide. Some would say because their bodies/brains where intact or because their were freshly dead.

 

[Jagi]

You ever seen 'Night Of The Living Dead' by George Romero?

that was the first thing my brother and i yelled out when we saw them breaking down windows wiht rocks..

 

[tapdatass]

yeah zombies can use things theyre still subconciously walking so why not be able to do something else... theyve always been able too except land of the dead kind of took it too far.... they were pretty much working jobs....

now the running ...wall walking zombies of day of the dead(nick cannon) yeah thats out of control......

 

[Megazell]

yeah zombies can use things theyre still subconciously walking so why not be able to do something else... theyve always been able too except land of the dead kind of took it too far.... they were pretty much working jobs....

now the running ...wall walking zombies of day of the dead(nick cannon) yeah thats out of control......

I don't think their subconscious nature had anything to do with that.

That remake of Day Of The Dead and Survival Of The Dead was ABSOLUTE TRASH.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

i have and i don't remember zombies picking up objects to break through barriers, just the weight of enough zombies would break the barriers. Maybe i missed something. I too am disturbed by the resourcefulness of these zombies. Don't need no smart zombies.....those fuckas......

i'm sayin tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the same thing i was thinkin! And then the whole climbing fences and shit? Hell NAWL!

 

[Megazell]

i'm sayin tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is the same thing i was thinkin! And then the whole climbing fences and shit? Hell NAWL!

You guys must have been watching them wack ass movies where the zombies just sit there and get fucked up by the living.

Zombies that just walk around and bite you is really easy to contain and deal with. Which would make for boring entertainment.

Not defending this show because to be honest...not liking it so far...that's just me...I know a lot of ppl will love and eat it up with no problem...the zombies prowess are not the problem and are quite faithful to the genre.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

They weren't like that in the book, all i'm sayin. the zombie prowess bothers me alot because alot of future storylines can't really happen because of the the zombie prowess.

 

[tapdatass]

how is walking and eating feasible but climbing not....... btw you notice the black zombie was the first one over the fence

i dont remember are these zombies biblical or government coverup/weapon.... sometimes that makes a difference

 

[kidmegaii]

You guys must have been watching them wack ass movies where the zombies just sit there and get fucked up by the living.

Thats what happened during the prison storyline. The zombies were justing standing there getting stabbed and shot.



The window smashing isn't that huge of a deal to me at least but, the fence climbing is a problem but not big enough to get me to stop watching.

 

[Megazell]

They weren't like that in the book, all i'm sayin. the zombie prowess bothers me alot because alot of future storylines can't really happen because of the the zombie prowess.

The story lines coming are still viable because those fences are taller, thicker and have barb wire tops...Which many zombies would just get caught up on like in 'Dead Wave.'

how is walking and eating feasible but climbing not....... btw you notice the black zombie was the first one over the fence

i dont remember are these zombies biblical or government coverup/weapon.... sometimes that makes a difference

They never gave an origin to how and why things started.

Thats what happened during the prison storyline. The zombies were justing standing there getting stabbed and shot.



The window smashing isn't that huge of a deal to me at least but, the fence climbing is a problem but not big enough to get me to stop watching.

I have to re-check but I know in one storyline a zombie was on top of a car and a truck...which means they can climb.

At least they did not use the ladders like in 'L4D.'

 

[lowlite]

You should re-watch the original black and white movie because the first zombie they ever showed used a rock to break the glass of the car...he also tried to open the car door by the handle.



1:57 mark to 2:22 mark

Zombies have always been able to use stuff but...but....but...a slew of other zombies movie show them stupid as fuck...George Romero never wrote them that way...even later on during the film some of the zombies appear with things in their hands like branches and other objects.

The way George wrote them was that some would and some won't...why that is? It's up to you to define/decide. Some would say because their bodies/brains where intact or because their were freshly dead.

I stand corrected. I do remember a few Romero movies where zombies did crudely use some some objects, turn a knob here or there, but I swear when that zombie jumped the fence I almost pee'd! Except for the newer zombie movies, I had never seen that. I guess I'm just wanting to see a more classic zombies. I should stop stereotyping zombies. I like my zombies slow walking but quick with the short lunge for the attack and their success coming only from surrounding victims and overwhelming them with sheer numbers. Oh, and I prefer them to eat brains, and not so much flesh, but I'm not a writer/movie maker so I manage with what they give me.

 

[lowlite]

You guys must have been watching them wack ass movies where the zombies just sit there and get fucked up by the living.

Zombies that just walk around and bite you is really easy to contain and deal with. Which would make for boring entertainment.

Not defending this show because to be honest...not liking it so far...that's just me...I know a lot of ppl will love and eat it up with no problem...the zombies prowess are not the problem and are quite faithful to the genre.

Point taken. Prowess is not the problem. The problem other than how they make the humans react is still the "sheer numbers".

 

[tapdatass]

im curious about the brains thing.... i dont think zombies were ever just brain eaters..... they were in the return of the dead series..... i believe they would even moan the words "braaaaiiinnss" i think they always just ate... cuz why would they just want brains.... that doesnt make sense lol

 

[HAR125LEM]

im curious about the brains thing.... i dont think zombies were ever just brain eaters..... they were in the return of the dead series..... i believe they would even moan the words "braaaaiiinnss" i think they always just ate... cuz why would they just want brains.... that doesnt make sense lol

Actually,

The "brains" thing started with "THE RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD" series ( I think there were five movies) which was a spoof on the Zombie genre. Had nothing to do with George Romero's series.

 

[Megazell]

^ Yeah those were the wack and funny movies.

'Video Dead'

This was a movie very similar to 'The Ring.' Where a TV showing zombies was going around. Those that watched it died. The zombies would come out of the TV...even if the TV had no power or if the tape was destroyed.

Anyway, in the movie 2 dudes figured out how to kill a lot of zombies while being at a safe distance because the zombies were slow and stupid...they put themselves high in a tree with some ropes and just swooped down and kill zombies and then go back up up.

Then a zombie got a branched and proceeded to fuck up that plan.

This shit scared the Scooby snacks out of me when I was 7 years old!

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[Jagi]

Thats what happened during the prison storyline. The zombies were justing standing there getting stabbed and shot.



The window smashing isn't that huge of a deal to me at least but, the fence climbing is a problem but not big enough to get me to stop watching.

i think in the prison some of the zombies were worn out for lack of a better term. they just had nothing to do and were just dying or rotting. the half zombie rick came across in ep 1 had no strength, did a half ass job of reaching for him.. i think this has to do with time of death and lenght of time not doing anything, slow reactions.

in 28 days later there were a few zombies just sort of sleeping in the church.. a scene showed a plane fly by and one of them was just laying there with barely enough strength to look at the plane..

in the prison they were pressing up against the strong gate.. michone and others would poke a sword or screw driver into their heads through the gates. inside the prisons they were there for who knows how long with out human flesh, when tyrese came in there with his hammer to clean house and vent they didnt' know what hit em

I stand corrected. I do remember a few Romero movies where zombies did crudely use some some objects, turn a knob here or there, but I swear when that zombie jumped the fence I almost pee'd! Except for the newer zombie movies, I had never seen that. I guess I'm just wanting to see a more classic zombies. I should stop stereotyping zombies. I like my zombies slow walking but quick with the short lunge for the attack and their success coming only from surrounding victims and overwhelming them with sheer numbers. Oh, and I prefer them to eat brains, and not so much flesh, but I'm not a writer/movie maker so I manage with what they give me.

the movie The Last Man on Earth with Vincent Price also had a vampire/zombie like creatures, they were animilistic and living on instinct not smart enough to turn a door knob for some, but some still had the instinct to pick up an object and break something with it..

that's the one thing that can be used to forgive some things in any movie or book. why do they eat? instinct, hunger is instinctive and with a dead body it doesnt know if it can or should it it just knows it needs nourishment.. they are more organized than most gangs, outside of fighting for the one left foot every now and then they dont turn on each other, they can wither away.. its still a human body, a living human body can rot and get atrophy, who's to say what it would do to a zombie sitting on his ass for the last few months.

my only thing ever was is it limited to humans only? i've only seen zombie dogs in the resident evil games/movies really, rats? as many as them as there are the movie/story would be over in seconds if a gang of infected rats got to running around the world.. even saw one being eaten in episode 2 of walking dead.. but why kill the story with nonsense, i'm just enjoying it..

i'd like to see a movie or short summer tv series of last blood that i got put on in the comic section..

http://lastblood.keenspot.com/

quite good and interesting in their take of vampires and zombies