The Owners worst nightmare: The Heat are in the finals

[AgentCreed]

if true i expect the refs to call a pro-dallas series ... what better way to send a message than to end the heat in the finals

 

[unknownsoldier]

No it won't, this is a labor dispute, the League is not in jeopardy. All the ruling will decide is whether NFL business can go on without a Collective Bargaining Agreement.

The CBA is an agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA governing every aspect of NFL and player business. This facilitates transactions between the parties, such as the signing of players to the respective teams. A consequence of a CBA-less league is that each team, as a separate business entity, can agree to sign a player to a contract that is not uniform to any other contract. For instance, if I sign HNIC to run my server, I can contract with him for $100K yearly, but at anytime I reserve the right to terminate the contract and I am only on the hook for a prorated amount. Conversely, you may offer HNIC a $100MM yearly deal with a guaranteed $80MM payout even if HNIC only does one year and a day's worth of work.

It's not certain whether the NFL or NBA can actually perform a 17 week / 82 game season without a CBA. The June 3rd case revolves around "NFL related business" such as workouts, drafts, trades, training, game prep, and other ancillary issues. I'm not sure if it specifically states whether a CBA-less season is feasible, that is probably a subsequent lawsuit..

**EDIT**

Here's a good summary: "If the judges rule for the Brady v. NFL plaintiffs, the league will be required to resume personnel moves and player practices toward an on-time start to the regular season. A ruling in favor of the NFL would be a major blow to players who will begin missing paychecks in September if the season is delayed or even canceled. Such a decision also may prompt players to pressure NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith into accepting an NFL deal." http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-Roger-Goodell-explains-lockout-cba-at-owners-meeting-052511

This is "merely" a leverage issue. The NFL and NBA aren't going anywhere.

There will not be football until the players cave PERIOD. They will shut the NFL down if they lose on June 3rd. It wouldn't go away forever, just until the players cave. The owners can go a season without it hurting their bottomline, players need those checks more.

“We’re hearing initial rumblings pointing to the possibility that a loss by the league at the appellate level will prompt the owners to completely shut down all business operations until the players agree to a new labor deal. The thinking is that, if the owners cease all operations, the NFL would not be violating the court order because there would be no lockout. Instead, the league essentially would be going out of business — something for which the NFL repeatedly chided the union in the weeks and months preceding decertification of the NFLPA.”

 

[AgentCreed]

the knicks rnt going after a 3rd star they r drafting a pg & r content with billups playing the jason kidd role as the young pg learns behind him

...what the knicks prob will do is buy a 1st and get another big man to go along with the import of jerome jordan @ center...

the knicks have shifted philosophy they want to maintain cap room but it wont be a for 3rd star it'll be to add more pieces to the team to add depth and quality, donnie has said he will be signing more defensive players and they will be hiring a defensive coord type coach.

melo and stat r enough star power the knicks now need to fill the holes and add more talent, thats donnie's plan. right now they have 6 players under contract only billups, stat and melo are safe might have 9 or 12 new players next yr...and see i mentioned we're drafting a pg, buying a pick and bringing in jordan to be the center... the knicks are gonna try to develop from within now...

I been following this since it was rumor that a hard cap of 48 million could happen.
I will be honest I was pissed nets finally gets an owner who is willing to spend and now won't be able to. We would have near 20 million in cap space but now it will be 12.

Stern isn't backing down and the players filing that unfair practice just showed they don't want to have a lockout.


This sucks for the knicks honestly a big three of cp3 amare and melo would be great ratings wise and business wise but stern is cncern about the disgruntle owners.

The twolves who fucked up very pick they had

Utah who has never been able to draw free agents

Look at some of these owners Portland was actually pissed that cho kept them competitve.

The owner is pissed because he has over spent on a first round exit team.

My nets ain't no better we would have 25 million if our dumb ass coach didn't sign outlaw to 7 million deal for 5 years.

We lucky Dallas has to resign chandler and jj and will have haywood on the books

 

[LegalMoney]

There will not be football until the players cave PERIOD. They will shut the NFL down if they lose on June 3rd. It wouldn't go away forever, just until the players cave. The owners can go a season without it hurting their bottomline, players need those checks more.

That is not Goodell's quote, his was “We’re considering a variety of alternatives based on the court decisions." when asked about that rumor initially reported by Mike Florio. http://eaglesaddict.com/http:/www.e...-roger-goodell-doesnt-deny-rumor-of-shutdown/

The main issue is that the upcoming NBA labor dispute is substantially related to the determination of the NFL v. Player's antitrust case and the lockout injunction. This will test the Players v. Owners in all subsequent NBA, NFL labor disputes. If the NFL decides to cut its nose to spite its face,(a huge legal hail Marie) fine; have fun settling all those breach of contract claims.

Stern and the owners have legitimate concerns over the NBA, but the players are far from out of any fight. The NFL rulings are the NBA PLayer's last hope.

 

[LegalMoney]

the knicks rnt going after a 3rd star they r drafting a pg & r content with billups playing the jason kidd role as the young pg learns behind him

...what the knicks prob will do is buy a 1st and get another big man to go along with the import of jerome jordan @ center...

the knicks have shifted philosophy they want to maintain cap room but it wont be a for 3rd star it'll be to add more pieces to the team to add depth and quality, donnie has said he will be signing more defensive players and they will be hiring a defensive coord type coach.

melo and stat r enough star power the knicks now need to fill the holes and add more talent, thats donnie's plan. right now they have 6 players under contract only billups, stat and melo are safe might have 9 or 12 new players next yr...and see i mentioned we're drafting a pg, buying a pick and bringing in jordan to be the center... the knicks are gonna try to develop from within now...

I'm not so sure fam. I think we're at a crossroads that we are fortunate we don't have to make a decision until after the labor dispute ends.

Depending on the new NBA landscape we can see if it is feasible to even consider a third star. Our immediate decision should be to forget the third star plan and continue to develop internally, but if some how this thing turns out favorably, then we'd be foolish to not "consider" the possibility.

 

[conspiracy Bro]

the knicks rnt going after a 3rd star they r drafting a pg & r content with billups playing the jason kidd role as the young pg learns behind him

...what the knicks prob will do is buy a 1st and get another big man to go along with the import of jerome jordan @ center...

the knicks have shifted philosophy they want to maintain cap room but it wont be a for 3rd star it'll be to add more pieces to the team to add depth and quality, donnie has said he will be signing more defensive players and they will be hiring a defensive coord type coach.

melo and stat r enough star power the knicks now need to fill the holes and add more talent, thats donnie's plan. right now they have 6 players under contract only billups, stat and melo are safe might have 9 or 12 new players next yr...and see i mentioned we're drafting a pg, buying a pick and bringing in jordan to be the center... the knicks are gonna try to develop from within now...

Actually I think the Knicks are gonna buy 2 first and at least 1 second. The signs are there that they are gonna draft 2 first since they are interviewing everybody they can so they know who to get with a both picks. Also they've already scheduled a special camp for non drafted players and D leaguers to attend to see if they're is any diamond in the rough players as well. They're gonna have salary cap space in 2012 just not Max money.

but like I said to make the franchise tag look good it shouldn't count against a teams cap. Also 48 is still low maybe if they add 10 million so the hard cap replaces the soft cap I could see players getting down.