The Opinion of Actinanass: Jobs vs Ideology

[actinanass]

I've been quite silent as of late about current issues. I've been thinking about the current status of our economy, and our so-called "recovery". *Can you tell that I'm actually very skeptical about using the word "recovery"?*

Anyway, back to jobs, I find it remarkable that the hardest hit community, when it comes to jobs, do not fully understand what's going on. In fact, I don't think most can really comprehend the situation our sweet, sweet, democratic congress is putting us for years to come. Yea, I hear that Obama inherit a bad situation. You can keep on riding that train if you want. Most of my political comrades on this board would probably ride that train until it hit a political end of the tracks. It's okay my fellow liberals, that talking point seems to still have SOME steam....*I might be overestimating...* The point is, with all the excuse making my left leaning friends are using on here, the question still remains. Where are the jobs?

Just like the oil slick in the Gulf the media, nor the government, can answer this question. Tarp reform, Stimulus this, economic reform that...yet still no jobs? Yeah, I'm sure you might be like "well YOUR SIDE WANTED TO DO NOTHING!!!?!?!" Typical, I must say... Do you know the point of a recession? A recession is kinda like a hurricane, a cleaning mechanism if I must say. Think about it, if GM, and Chrysler would of went through WITHOUT tarp reform, perhaps it would of clean out a lot of waste that was going on in both companies? Hey, look at Ford *tarp reform-less Ford I might add*. Ford is cleaning up right about now. Yet, we still hear this overused term of "jobs saved or created". Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I have yet to hear Ford laying off at all during this recession. Funny how that works....

Now we get into health care.... So, instead of focusing on HOW to create more jobs, our fair president thought that making a health care bill will be more productive. Riiight? What point is it to have a health care bill when nearly 20% of our population is unemployed? Wouldn't it be more productive to find ways to create jobs that would OFFER health care coverage? Oh yeah, let me clarify something. I'm not saying health care doesn't need to be revised, but why the urgency when so many of our neighbors are without work?

The only fair conclusion I can actually give to all of this is....ITS BY DESIGN. Obama social agenda means more than actually laying ground work of a better economy. Who needs people working when you can run on giving people health care for free? When you unemployed, you tend not to care how much taxes is going to be raised once you start working again. In most cases, the far left wing does not want anyone *mostly not minorities* to be successful on their own accord. Thus, why jobs haven't been created on a large scale. It's not in Obama's plan to truly create jobs on a widespread way. Thus, why the jobs are still non-existent overall.

I'll put it in Layman's terms. If unemployment was down to 4 percent *like the Bush years*, there would be no need of health care reform. Do you really think Obama wants that? Think about it...

 

[nittie]

If unemployment was down to 4 percent *like the Bush years*, there would be no need of health care reform. Do you really think Obama wants that? Think about it...
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lol 4% unemployment during the Bush years. The economy isn't growing because rich people are hoarding money. There's no other explanation for it. For example 3 years ago I owned a clothing website. It was small compared to sites like Dr Jays but I could still make five thousand a week. I could do it because people had money to spend they were paying a thousand dollars for jeans, two hundred for a t-shirt. THEN out of nowhere Hank Paulson with Bush's blessing told us we were on the verge of a economic meltdown. Overnight money dried up, not only did it dry up but it started a chain reaction. Pretty soon most small and middle class people where broke or struggling. Why did it happen, because Paulson introduced a new ideology whether intentional or not. He said some people are too big to fail. That concept has never been in the debate so the people responsible for this mess are still getting rich. Obama has got to restore normalcy to the market, put people in jail, let some big people fail or we will have what the founding fathers went to war to escape namely a monarchy.

 

[QueEx]

 

[actinanass]

lol 4% unemployment during the Bush years. The economy isn't growing because rich people are hoarding money. There's no other explanation for it. For example 3 years ago I owned a clothing website. It was small compared to sites like Dr Jays but I could still make five thousand a week. I could do it because people had money to spend they were paying a thousand dollars for jeans, two hundred for a t-shirt. THEN out of nowhere Hank Paulson with Bush's blessing told us we were on the verge of a economic meltdown. Overnight money dried up, not only did it dry up but it started a chain reaction. Pretty soon most small and middle class people where broke or struggling. Why did it happen, because Paulson introduced a new ideology whether intentional or not. He said some people are too big to fail. That concept has never been in the debate so the people responsible for this mess are still getting rich. Obama has got to restore normalcy to the market, put people in jail, let some big people fail or we will have what the founding fathers went to war to escape namely a monarchy.

1. Do you actually believe that the wealthy do not benefit if they grow their business *produce jobs*? Have you ever wonder WHY they are "hoarding" all of the money? Maybe because they see their taxes are going to raise substantially in the beginning of the year? Think like a rich man...

2. This was one of Bush's bad moments. Hell, he would even agree *because he stated so in the past* that he would of went with his gut feeling. You will get no argument from me here...

3. One thing everyone has learn *except liberal democrats* is that NOTHING is too big to fail. Jobs come faster when you give incentive to create. Something Obama fails to do.

4. This goes to my overall point. Obama's ideology will not let him do this. He benefits politically if there's 10% unemployment right now. Now, when 2012 comes around, he might push for jobs, in order to cash in votes. *that's if he wants to win in 2012*

Right now, Obama is painted in a political corner. Either move to the center after this year, or die politically because of his liberal views. The choice is very simple.... Kinda like the ball and the sword *wu tang reference...*.

we both know big business isn't making a lot of money right now. Not compared to the late Clinton/early Bush years...

 

[Gunner]

We must stop voting our race and instead focus on managing the outcomes for our community.

To me health care is just smoke and mirrors. As you aforementioned AA, it doesn't matter if you don't have a job. What is it that our race sees that every other race doesn't? The current administration sits around 45% approval rating nation wide and yet 95% of the black community is still in awe of having a black president.

We are around 15 to 16% unemployed as a race. The highest among ethnic groups with a president that looks like us.

If the Bush tax cuts expire then that 16% could grow even higher. Business owners will cut back even more. This is so simple. If you were a business owner would you hire in this environment? Where are the incentives?

Bush and Obama both stated that banks need to start lending to small business owners for payroll. Most business owners already have debt, we need customers with jobs and money to spend on our product.

 

[actinanass]

We must stop voting our race and instead focus on managing the outcomes for our community.

To me health care is just smoke and mirrors. As you aforementioned AA, it doesn't matter if you don't have a job. What is it that our race sees that every other race doesn't? The current administration sits around 45% approval rating nation wide and yet 95% of the black community is still in awe of having a black president.

We are around 15 to 16% unemployed as a race. The highest among ethnic groups with a president that looks like us.

If the Bush tax cuts expire then that 16% could grow even higher. Business owners will cut back even more. This is so simple. If you were a business owner would you hire in this environment? Where are the incentives?

Bush and Obama both stated that banks need to start lending to small business owners for payroll. Most business owners already have debt, we need customers with jobs and money to spend on our product.

Now, to be fair to Obama. There's a chance he might pull a Clinton. I don't think Obama is that harden of a liberal. One thing about Liberals, they are ok to do conservative things when it's their neck on the line.

One thing the Right needs to watch out for is the trickery Obama can still play. Everything is setup to make it seem like the republicans are responsible for the next recession we're approaching *if the Bush Tax cuts expire...*. Republicans really need to grow a pair, and communicate BETTER than Obama on this issue. Now, I understand that it may be easier said than done. However, it must be done.

If Obama becomes to left leaning for anyone to work with, mark my words.... WATCH OUT FOR HILLARY.

 

[QueEx]

we both know big business isn't making a lot of money right now. Not compared to the late Clinton/early Bush years...

August 2, 2010, NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks rallied Monday, extending last month's gains, as investors welcomed upbeat economic reports and strong earnings from European banks.

"The rally came after stocks rose 7% in July, marking the best monthly gain in a year, on solid second-quarter results from a range of major U.S. companies. The bullish tone carried over Monday as investors cheered quarterly results from European banks HSBC and BNP Paribas.

"I think the market is looking at earnings reports and saying things are not as bad as we thought," said Dave Hinnenkamp, chief executive at KDV Wealth Management. "Yes, <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">the economic recovery won't be at a brisk pace, but companies are still earning money and their balance sheets are in good shape."</span>​

 

[Lamarr]

Obama's actions indicate he doesn't believe in free-markets, (I think he wants America to fail.........only to validate his flawed philosophy)

let's not forget ol "W"

"I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008

My problem with Repubs is that they are out of touch with free market principles (I know, the dems are worse). Corporatism has run rufshod over the American people. And the best defense for Repubs is "dont let the Bush tax cuts expire" - Gimme a break!

Neither side wants to talk about significant spending cuts

Neither side wants to talk about the 'fundamentals' and how they are mo f*cked up than before the crisis hit.

Neither side wants to address the hundreds of billions going towards nation-building halfway around the world, in the name of security......................while our southern borders are wide open

Both sides have managed to de-industrialize the nation through rules & regulations designed to make us unable to compete in the global marketplace..........NAFTA

In 92-93, when the unions were pitchin a bitch about the NAFTA legislation, What did the Dems do? It just behooves me how anyone in a union could back a Dem after that betrayal

"This is a good deal for our country." - Al Gore

I could go on but neither party is lookin out for America, or Americans best interest.

 

[ronmch20]

Leave the political analysis to QueEx, you're not remotely qualified.

 

[actinanass]

August 2, 2010, NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Stocks rallied Monday, extending last month's gains, as investors welcomed upbeat economic reports and strong earnings from European banks.

"The rally came after stocks rose 7% in July, marking the best monthly gain in a year, on solid second-quarter results from a range of major U.S. companies. The bullish tone carried over Monday as investors cheered quarterly results from European banks HSBC and BNP Paribas.

"I think the market is looking at earnings reports and saying things are not as bad as we thought," said Dave Hinnenkamp, chief executive at KDV Wealth Management. "Yes, <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">the economic recovery won't be at a brisk pace, but companies are still earning money and their balance sheets are in good shape."</span>​

Honest to God truth, Que, this is probably the only way big business can make a decent amount of money right now. Trust me, once the Bush Tax Cuts expire, the stock market will take a major hit.

Let's put it in dopeman's terms. Dope man *big business* is basically stepping on all of their work to make some sort of profit *their work is quick investing in the market...NOT LONG TERM*. In reality, every dopeman wanna either expand their supply line/ power structure *creating economic growth by expanding their business*. The dope man is scared because the cops are hot *government*, and he do not know the next time it will be a drought *tax hike, double dip recession*. So, he sell all the stepped on merchandise to the consumer *in this case, the stock market/media*. It's out of necessity more than anything else.

Obama's actions indicate he doesn't believe in free-markets, (I think he wants America to fail.........only to validate his flawed philosophy)

let's not forget ol "W"



My problem with Repubs is that they are out of touch with free market principles (I know, the dems are worse). Corporatism has run rufshod over the American people. And the best defense for Repubs is "dont let the Bush tax cuts expire" - Gimme a break!

Neither side wants to talk about significant spending cuts

Neither side wants to talk about the 'fundamentals' and how they are mo f*cked up than before the crisis hit.

Neither side wants to address the hundreds of billions going towards nation-building halfway around the world, in the name of security......................while our southern borders are wide open

Both sides have managed to de-industrialize the nation through rules & regulations designed to make us unable to compete in the global marketplace..........NAFTA

In 92-93, when the unions were pitchin a bitch about the NAFTA legislation, What did the Dems do? It just behooves me how anyone in a union could back a Dem after that betrayal



I could go on but neither party is lookin out for America, or Americans best interest.

I agree on how the republicans are out of sync with what really needs to go on. I think the focus should be more on the dems ONLY because they are open about it more. You are right about the republicans though...

Leave the political analysis to QueEx, you're not remotely qualified.

I would think Que would disagree with you on that one. He wants me to state my views on this board. It creates balance. Sorry you do not fully understand this concept yet.

 

[thoughtone]

Obama's actions indicate he doesn't believe in free-markets, (I think he wants America to fail.........only to validate his flawed philosophy)

You have reached an all time low in useless rhetoric. You are officially in Actinanass territory.

"I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market system." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 16, 2008

You have just indited yourself and confirmed what I have been stating since I have been posting on this board. The so called Free Market system is not sustainable, is parasitic an will consume itself. GW finally had the balls to admit it publicly. That is the one statement I respected him for saying.



Corporatism is capitalism on steroids. The natural conclusion to capitalism is a very small and wealthy ruling class, a large working class beholden to the economic whims of the wealthy and a small middle class doing the bidding for the wealthy under the mistaken belief of protecting their own economic assess.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I would think Que would disagree with you on that one. He wants me to state my views on this board. It creates balance. Sorry you do not fully understand this concept yet.

AAA
You do not provide "balance" with these easily batted aside rants. Your facts tend to be wrong and you don't show a grasp on any particular subject, making you dismissable. That's not balance.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

We must stop voting our race and instead focus on managing the outcomes for our community.

To me health care is just smoke and mirrors. As you aforementioned AA, it doesn't matter if you don't have a job. What is it that our race sees that every other race doesn't? The current administration sits around 45% approval rating nation wide and yet 95% of the black community is still in awe of having a black president.

Stop this. This is typical Black Inferiority complex. Black people have as high an opinion of Obama as we would any other Democratic President. Are his numbers any different from Bill Clinton's in any way 19 months into his term? White people are roughly 50/50 on any President while Black folks are heavily Democratic. Ethnicity is irrelevent but you propagate the idea that Black folks are too dumb to actually be able to see pass a person's ethnicity while everyone else can.
We are far too loyal to the Democratic Party but when the Republicans not only don't solicit our support but seem to want to antagonize us at every turn, it limits our options.

We are around 15 to 16% unemployed as a race. The highest among ethnic groups with a president that looks like us.

If the Bush tax cuts expire then that 16% could grow even higher. Business owners will cut back even more. This is so simple. If you were a business owner would you hire in this environment? Where are the incentives?

Big businesses, the ones who would be affected by the repeal of some of the Bush tax cuts aren't doing too much hiring now anyway so what would change? Small businesses are doing the hiring and their tax cuts would remain.
If the Bush tax cuts were so great, why are we in this predicament in the first place? They should have been a strong deterent to recession since they were explicitly supply side based.

Bush and Obama both stated that banks need to start lending to small business owners for payroll. Most business owners already have debt, we need customers with jobs and money to spend on our product.

Business owners are clamoring for credit but can't get it because the banks are hoarding money and paying out dividends and not lending. People start businesses by borrowing. They expand businesses by borrowing.

 

[nittie]

Honest to God truth, Que, this is probably the only way big business can make a decent amount of money right now. Trust me, once the Bush Tax Cuts expire, the stock market will take a major hit.

Let's put it in dopeman's terms. Dope man *big business* is basically stepping on all of their work to make some sort of profit *their work is quick investing in the market...NOT LONG TERM*. In reality, every dopeman wanna either expand their supply line/ power structure *creating economic growth by expanding their business*. The dope man is scared because the cops are hot *government*, and he do not know the next time it will be a drought *tax hike, double dip recession*. So, he sell all the stepped on merchandise to the consumer *in this case, the stock market/media*. It's out of necessity more than anything else.

A better comparison imo is the Wesly Snipes case. Between 1999 and 2003 he made 39 million dollars and did not pay taxes so now he's going to prison.

1st where the fuck did he get that kinda money he was doing Blade and New Jack City back then.

2nd Why didn't he pay taxes he could afford it

3rd Why is he going to prison when other celebs with the same problem are not (e.g. Nicholas Cage)


What we have is entrenched wealth and priviledge. Snipes got that money because he was an elite and felt he shouldn't pay taxes he forgot he was Black and now he's going to jail. Money is in a few industries and if you are not among the elite in those industries you are expendable. We have got to change this. The first step is to stop thinking like a taxpayer and voter.

 

[ronmch20]

I cannot think of a more appropriate name for you than the one you've given yourself.

 

[Gunner]

Stop this. This is typical Black Inferiority complex. Black people have as high an opinion of Obama as we would any other Democratic President. Are his numbers any different from Bill Clinton's in any way 19 months into his term? White people are roughly 50/50 on any President while Black folks are heavily Democratic. Ethnicity is irrelevent but you propagate the idea that Black folks are too dumb to actually be able to see pass a person's ethnicity while everyone else can.
We are far too loyal to the Democratic Party but when the Republicans not only don't solicit our support but seem to want to antagonize us at every turn, it limits our options.



Big businesses, the ones who would be affected by the repeal of some of the Bush tax cuts aren't doing too much hiring now anyway so what would change? Small businesses are doing the hiring and their tax cuts would remain.
If the Bush tax cuts were so great, why are we in this predicament in the first place? They should have been a strong deterent to recession since they were explicitly supply side based.



Business owners are clamoring for credit but can't get it because the banks are hoarding money and paying out dividends and not lending. People start businesses by borrowing. They expand businesses by borrowing.

Dave, its not about Obama its about the whole machine. New Orleans (love the city) is about an hour away from me. In Louisiana politics is blood sport. Check our history in your spare time. Any hoot, thousands in the city have been suckerd into promises of hope and change for years. How has it improved their lot in life. Everyone opened their arms to those escaping the hurricane. About a month later they wanted to ship the natives back. This was due in part to the democrat mind set. Years of democratic reign has all but ruined New Orleans.

Dude the FBI monthly arrest these cats who set up non-profits, set up to assist the poor; who end up robbing the tax payers. William Jefferson's whole family was corrupt.

You are correct in your assertion about outreach to our community. I thought back to Tavis Smiley bringing in the GOP for a discussion. The big three didn't attend. Many on the other side of the aisle contend that you can't be the democrats on giving away free stuff. Most have the feeling why bother they will vote democrat anyway attitude.

I believed in Jack Kemps notion of creating free enterprise zones. Having pride in ownership. The GOP has to a better job in this area. If I had a GOP check book I would set up business incubators on every corner like Starbucks. Teaching our people how to create business plans, partner with local colleges of business, bring in bank managers to give seminars. Instill the mindset of producers rather than consumers.

Banks are afraid to lend, they were burned by the housing bubble. Congress mandated them to lend. Told them they would back the loans. The market couldn't couldn't sustain the ponzi scheme and the bubble burst. Yes wall street was greedy. Banks were greedy. But the government provided that free first hit that got everyone hooked on exotic loans.

Studies show the stimulus failed. It may have created a few hundred jobs but how much did it cost us?

 

[Lamarr]

You have reached an all time low in useless rhetoric. You are officially in Actinanass territory.

Well, until he abandons the philosophy that the govt can fix the economy, My Rhetoric Is Justifiable ! ! !

You have just indited yourself and confirmed what I have been stating since I have been posting on this board. The so called Free Market system is not sustainable, is parasitic an will consume itself. GW finally had the balls to admit it publicly. That is the one statement I respected him for saying.

You would respect that incompetent statement

Corporatism is capitalism on steroids. The natural conclusion to capitalism is a very small and wealthy ruling class, a large working class beholden to the economic whims of the wealthy and a small middle class doing the bidding for the wealthy under the mistaken belief of protecting their own economic assess.

Wrong again! Corporatism doesn't exist without govt intervention.

If it wasn't for state, local, & federal land grants, How would China-mart build all those damn superstores?

If it wasn't for the bailout of GM, How would they build fuckin plants in Brazil with American taxpayer dollars?

If it wasn't for the Fed Res keeping overnight interest rates at 0.25% JP Morgan & Goldman Sachs wouldn't participate in reckless speculation in the market.

If it wasn't for the Govt creating Fannie & Freddie, borrowers would be judged based on their credit worthiness instead of being duped by "predatory lenders"

If it wasn't for this "War on Terror" (that W started and Obama is continuing, possibly expanding into Iran & Pakistan) We wouldn't be so ticked off when Halliburton, or even Blackwater recieves no-bid contracts.

I could go on & on, Every example of the 'evil' corporations you despise so much is a direct product of govt intervention, which is why I hold the opinion that you & your type, don't have a clue about what a free-market really is!

bruh, I'm about to get my 4 miles in before I get some sleep but you must admit these 'evil' corps are only being propped up by govt intervention

 

[sean69]

I've been quite silent as of late about current issues. I've been thinking about the current status of our economy, and our so-called "recovery". *Can you tell that I'm actually very skeptical about using the word "recovery"?*

Anyway, back to jobs, I find it remarkable that the hardest hit community, when it comes to jobs, do not fully understand what's going on. In fact, I don't think most can really comprehend the situation our sweet, sweet, democratic congress is putting us for years to come. Yea, I hear that Obama inherit a bad situation. You can keep on riding that train if you want. Most of my political comrades on this board would probably ride that train until it hit a political end of the tracks. It's okay my fellow liberals, that talking point seems to still have SOME steam....*I might be overestimating...* The point is, with all the excuse making my left leaning friends are using on here, the question still remains. Where are the jobs?

Didn't see you typing mad paragraphs asking Bush years ago ...

Just like the oil slick in the Gulf the media, nor the government, can answer this question. Tarp reform, Stimulus this, economic reform that...yet still no jobs? Yeah, I'm sure you might be like "well YOUR SIDE WANTED TO DO NOTHING!!!?!?!" Typical, I must say... Do you know the point of a recession? A recession is kinda like a hurricane, a cleaning mechanism if I must say. Think about it, if GM, and Chrysler would of went through WITHOUT tarp reform, perhaps it would of clean out a lot of waste that was going on in both companies? Hey, look at Ford *tarp reform-less Ford I might add*. Ford is cleaning up right about now. Yet, we still hear this overused term of "jobs saved or created". Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I have yet to hear Ford laying off at all during this recession. Funny how that works....

Go recessions! More recessions! Let's clean this muhfucka out!!!

...

Now we get into health care.... So, instead of focusing on HOW to create more jobs, our fair president thought that making a health care bill will be more productive. Riiight? What point is it to have a health care bill when nearly 20% of our population is unemployed? Wouldn't it be more productive to find ways to create jobs that would OFFER health care coverage? Oh yeah, let me clarify something. I'm not saying health care doesn't need to be revised, but why the urgency when so many of our neighbors are without work?

Your boy Bush and his goons were urgent as fuck to go ham on Iraq ... fuck was your protesting ass at? Matter fak, *Jay-Z voice* ... fuck is da Hummer ... I mean, WMD's at??

The only fair conclusion I can actually give to all of this is....ITS BY DESIGN. Obama social agenda means more than actually laying ground work of a better economy. Who needs people working when you can run on giving people health care for free? When you unemployed, you tend not to care how much taxes is going to be raised once you start working again. In most cases, the far left wing does not want anyone *mostly not minorities* to be successful on their own accord. Thus, why jobs haven't been created on a large scale. It's not in Obama's plan to truly create jobs on a widespread way. Thus, why the jobs are still non-existent overall.

I'll put it in Layman's terms. If unemployment was down to 4 percent *like the Bush years*, there would be no need of health care reform. Do you really think Obama wants that? Think about it...

"The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate rose from 4.2% in January 2001, peaking at 6.3% in June 2003 and reaching a trough of 4.4% in March 2007. After an economic slowdown, the rate rose again to 6.1% in August 2008 and up to 7.2% in December 2008."

 

[Lamarr]

Obama's actions indicate he doesn't believe in free-markets, (I think he wants America to fail.........only to validate his flawed philosophy)

You have reached an all time low in useless rhetoric. You are officially in Actinanass territory.

U.S. To Train 3,000 Offshore IT Workers

Despite President Obama's pledge to retain more hi-tech jobs in the U.S., a federal agency run by a hand-picked Obama appointee has launched a $22 million program to train workers, including 3,000 specialists in IT and related functions, in South Asia.

Following their training, the tech workers will be placed with outsourcing vendors in the region that provide offshore IT and business services to American companies looking to take advantage of the Asian subcontinent's low labor costs.

My Rhetoric Continues To Be Justified!

 

[QueEx]

There are some real doosies in this thread, i.e.:

If the Bush tax cuts expire then that 16% [unemployment] could grow even higher. Business owners will cut back even more. This is so simple. If you were a business owner would you hire in this environment? Where are the incentives?

Obama's actions indicate he doesn't believe in free-markets, (I think he wants America to fail .........only to validate his flawed philosophy)

 

[thoughtone]

There are some real doosies in this thread, i.e.:

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Obama's actions indicate he doesn't believe in free-markets, (I think he wants America to fail.........only to validate his flawed philosophy)

A verbatim quote from

Damn, LOL!!!

 

[nittie]

lol 4% unemployment during the Bush years. The economy isn't growing because rich people are hoarding money. There's no other explanation for it. For example 3 years ago I owned a clothing website. It was small compared to sites like Dr Jays but I could still make five thousand a week. I could do it because people had money to spend they were paying a thousand dollars for jeans, two hundred for a t-shirt. THEN out of nowhere Hank Paulson with Bush's blessing told us we were on the verge of a economic meltdown. Overnight money dried up, not only did it dry up but it started a chain reaction. Pretty soon most small and middle class people where broke or struggling. Why did it happen, because Paulson introduced a new ideology whether intentional or not. He said some people are too big to fail. That concept has never been in the debate so the people responsible for this mess are still getting rich. Obama has got to restore normalcy to the market, put people in jail, let some big people fail or we will have what the founding fathers went to war to escape namely a monarchy.

Damn what was I thinking back then can't believe I even said this.