The Notorious Movie

"Yo, did he even write that shit?" "Ummm, I don't know. I think he did. Shit, I don't know.. I'm pretty fucked up!!" Some funny shit there. I aint going front.. dude had his moments, but I still think he was casted wrong. Him and Pac felt out of place.
 
Yup. How a goofy, nerdy kid convinced MILLIONS of people that he was a thug and a gangster :lol:

He never said he was a "gangster" and THUG LIFE was an acronym for The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody.

It was a philosphy that if you don't raise the kids right, they'll turn around and rob, rape and kill all of us eventually.

I mean, don't you read? Dr. Michael Eric Dyson wrote a good book about Pac.

LOL! You are one of millions who were fooled :smh:

And you're one of the ignorant millions who didn't get what THUG LIFE was.

No Biggie was a street dude who did what he did in the streets to get money, 2Pac was a dancer who danced in tights in several videos. He wasn't a thug until Suge Knight painted him as one. He then he started to belive it. 2Pac was never a THUG

Once again wrong. . . .

Pac put out one record while he was alive on Death Row, and that was "All Eyez On Me". His other records came out before Suge was ever in the picture. The Thug Life record came out two years before "All Eyez On Me" did.

You keep exposing how little you know about Hip-Hop. Before Pac signed to Death Row, he shot two cops, went to prison for sexual battery, settled a lawsuit against the Oakland P.D., and started feuding with Big & Puff.

question for the bgol, is hit em up the only song ya know from pac cause i mean he has more uplifting real songs that the average hood dude struggling in life can relate 2 then songs like hit him up. pac was political, fuck if he was a thug or not, that nigga songs got me through some rough times in high school.

Exactly, it's like these dudes never heard "Brenda's Got A Baby" "Trapped" "Souljah" "Young Black Male" "Part Time Mutha" "Holla If Ya Hear Me" "Keep Ya Head Up" "Papa'z Song" "Pour Out A Little Liquor" "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" "Cradle to the Grave" "Me Against the World" "So Many Tears" "Young Niggaz" "Lord Knows" "Dear Mama" "My Block"

and soooo many other tracks that are about the plight of Black males in Amerikkka. He wrote so many that I didn't even cover the shit he did on Death Row with Suge.

Too many of these fags read XXL or THe Source or never listened to Pac's music to even judge the dude's image or work.



But let's keep it real. We already know what happened. This muthafukka isn't Malcolm X. He's a good rapper that got killed too soon. We saw enough of Biggie's life to where a sensationalize biopic is pointless. Same goes for Tupac. A documentary is enough. But it is a recession, so at least these no talent ass actors & actresses have a job this year.

I don't know a kid born in jail to a Black Panther mother, defending herself on trial, born into poverty in New York, where he grew up around Geronimo Pratt and Assata Shakur, and Mutulu Shakur, learning the Black Panther ideology, then moves to California, where he's exposed to gang-bangin and pimpin, and manages to find himself somewhere in all those worlds.

I mean Jim Morrison and Buddy Holly got critically acclaimed movies. Kurt Cobain's gonna get his own movie, as soon as Courtney gets her say. It's not like you gotta be George Washington in order to get a biopic, all you gotta do is have a semi-interesting story, or have you not seen the 1,123,231 biopics about everybody on earth the last few years.

I like 2Pac but he was 50/50 as hell. Look at his catalog.... for every uplifting so there's 5 negative one. Yea, he was political but he was also an emotional, troublemaker. Imagine if you preacher was like 2Pac....would he be praised?

False. You listened to a few Pac albums and made that assertion. There is no way you could listen to every Pac record and make that statement. Pac's records for the first 5 years of his career were mostly militant, political, social commentary, with hints of gangsta in them. He signed to Death Row for 9 months and now people act like his whole catalogue didn't exist.

I trip off these romanticized views of these two. Neither Biggie nor Pac were some freedom crusader trying to elevate black people. That's a load of bullshit. A lot of you niggas may be young but there are a lot of us around who were grown ass men when Pac and Biggie were around. I can remember many times shaking my head at Pac on the television acting damn fool. Years from now I guess niggas are going to say T-Pain and 50 were aftrocentric freedom fighters.
These niggas were entertainers trying to make a dollar. Pac may have had a couple of moments of realization towards the end of his life but I'm sick of niggas Malcolm and Martin-ing these two fools. I swear black folk seem to consistently pick the wrong people to champion as examples. Maybe that's why so many of us are misguided? There are plenty of brothas who have done real shit for our people. These two niggas were entertainers: A fat ex-drug dealer and a studio gangster. Black folks need to FOCUS. We have much better than both of these fools in our culture. Give them props for what they did for hip-hop but please stop trying to make them out to be some sort of martyrs for black people.
Neither of these fools represent me.

Nigga, Elvis has been called more shit by white folks than Pac and Biggie ever will and he was a child-molesting drug addict, who never even wrote his own songs.

Like I said, if Elvis, Buddy Holly(who I think died at 19), and Jim Morrison can get movies based on being White and famous, then we can look at two brothas who got shot down.

I unlike most of you hatin' ass niggaz look forward to seeing "Notorious" next weekend(when nobody'll get shot);), because White folks would make a Paris Hilton movie, if they thought people would go see it and now we gotta hate on two of our most talented brothas, because of what? Because you're ignorant about Pac and Biggie's music? Or you don't like Hip-Hop, or what?

The bottom line is, Hip-Hop is bigger than the British Invasion. It has literally dominated the last 25 years of American Culture. These are the two most famous guys who EVER did it, what's the problem?

You think the two most famous Rock-stars of all-time wouldn't get movies? They already did.

Okay, I see. You're another dumbass who doesn't know anything about music so you define success by dollar amounts and then constrain those success to rappers. well I don't. Now you've brought R&B in, so here's some numbers for your ass:
Michael Jackson - Thriller - 27x Platinum. Not rap music.
Whitney Houston - The Bodygurad soundtrack - 17x Platinum Not rap.
Mariah Carey has had 2 CDs to go 10x Platinum
Boys 2 Men II - 14X Platinum
Outkast - 11x Platinum
Stevie Wonder, Usher, TLC, MC Hammer - all went 10x Platinum as well.
Stop trying to front like B.I.G. is the biggest thing in history. The difference? All of these people minus Left Eye are still around to enjoy their successes.
Stevie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>every rapper in history.
Rap doesn't have a musical genius. You measure success by sales. I measure by quality. Holla at me when a rapper has a record on the level of "Songs In The Key Of Life" or "Talking Book".

Get the hell out of here with that anti-rap bullshit. Public Enemy's "It Takes A Nation of Millions. . . " has been included on every top 100 records ever made list. Time Magazine even put "The Chronic" and "Low End Theory" and "Marshall Mathers LP" on their list, and you some ol' hatin' ass nigga, wanna to play Hip-Hop out.

There is no question of Hip-Hop's influence. They're givin' rappers Oscars and Grammys by the barrell load. Rappers are treated like Gods in every corner of the planet. You don't have to respect Hip-Hop culture. The entire world does.


Tupac was a middle class kid who went to the school of performing arts. I saw a video he and Jada Pinkett made lip-syncing... get this... "Parents Just Don't Understand."

Nothing middle class about him. Ask Jada Pinkett about how she and her friends used to have to give Pac clothes for Christmas because he didn't have any. He was raised by his single crackhead mother. Does that sound "middle-class" to you?

And jackass, in 1988, everything didn't have to be gangsta. Will Smith used to be a respected rapper. He even used to kill cats on the radio battles in Philly.

You know nothing about Hip-HOp. Back to Souljah Boy!

I WOULD NOT PAY 1 PENNY TO SEE THIS MOVIE!! There must be some age/generation difference in those who like the movie and those who are not interested.

We saw Not Easily Broken and that movie was worth every hard-earned cent. Something for the brothers & sisters... Black man, good hard-working man and how he was almost driven into another woman's arms. They should have marketed Not Easily Broken better than they did

Naw, from what I've seen you post on here, you're a snob. I can see why you wouldn't like seeing a movie about a rapper, even though I'll tell you, every respected critic I've seen has said "Notorious" was a really good movie.

the movie was iight, biggie could have been played by b-legit fo real

He did look like Biggie. I forgot about that, but he was one of Pac's Oakland homeboys. I don't think that would've gone down good.
 
He never said he was a "gangster" and THUG LIFE was an acronym for The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody.

It was a philosphy that if you don't raise the kids right, they'll turn around and rob, rape and kill all of us eventually.

I mean, don't you read? Dr. Michael Eric Dyson wrote a good book about Pac.



And you're one of the ignorant millions who didn't get what THUG LIFE was.



Once again wrong. . . .

Pac put out one record while he was alive on Death Row, and that was "All Eyez On Me". His other records came out before Suge was ever in the picture. The Thug Life record came out two years before "All Eyez On Me" did.

You keep exposing how little you know about Hip-Hop. Before Pac signed to Death Row, he shot two cops, went to prison for sexual battery, settled a lawsuit against the Oakland P.D., and started feuding with Big & Puff.



Exactly, it's like these dudes never heard "Brenda's Got A Baby" "Trapped" "Souljah" "Young Black Male" "Part Time Mutha" "Holla If Ya Hear Me" "Keep Ya Head Up" "Papa'z Song" "Pour Out A Little Liquor" "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" "Cradle to the Grave" "Me Against the World" "So Many Tears" "Young Niggaz" "Lord Knows" "Dear Mama" "My Block"

and soooo many other tracks that are about the plight of Black males in Amerikkka. He wrote so many that I didn't even cover the shit he did on Death Row with Suge.

Too many of these fags read XXL or THe Source or never listened to Pac's music to even judge the dude's image or work.





I don't know a kid born in jail to a Black Panther mother, defending herself on trial, born into poverty in New York, where he grew up around Geronimo Pratt and Assata Shakur, and Mutulu Shakur, learning the Black Panther ideology, then moves to California, where he's exposed to gang-bangin and pimpin, and manages to find himself somewhere in all those worlds.

I mean Jim Morrison and Buddy Holly got critically acclaimed movies. Kurt Cobain's gonna get his own movie, as soon as Courtney gets her say. It's not like you gotta be George Washington in order to get a biopic, all you gotta do is have a semi-interesting story, or have you not seen the 1,123,231 biopics about everybody on earth the last few years.



False. You listened to a few Pac albums and made that assertion. There is no way you could listen to every Pac record and make that statement. Pac's records for the first 5 years of his career were mostly militant, political, social commentary, with hints of gangsta in them. He signed to Death Row for 9 months and now people act like his whole catalogue didn't exist.



Nigga, Elvis has been called more shit by white folks than Pac and Biggie ever will and he was a child-molesting drug addict, who never even wrote his own songs.

Like I said, if Elvis, Buddy Holly(who I think died at 19), and Jim Morrison can get movies based on being White and famous, then we can look at two brothas who got shot down.

I unlike most of you hatin' ass niggaz look forward to seeing "Notorious" next weekend(when nobody'll get shot);), because White folks would make a Paris Hilton movie, if they thought people would go see it and now we gotta hate on two of our most talented brothas, because of what? Because you're ignorant about Pac and Biggie's music? Or you don't like Hip-Hop, or what?

The bottom line is, Hip-Hop is bigger than the British Invasion. It has literally dominated the last 25 years of American Culture. These are the two most famous guys who EVER did it, what's the problem?

You think the two most famous Rock-stars of all-time wouldn't get movies? They already did.



Get the hell out of here with that anti-rap bullshit. Public Enemy's "It Takes A Nation of Millions. . . " has been included on every top 100 records ever made list. Time Magazine even put "The Chronic" and "Low End Theory" and "Marshall Mathers LP" on their list, and you some ol' hatin' ass nigga, wanna to play Hip-Hop out.

There is no question of Hip-Hop's influence. They're givin' rappers Oscars and Grammys by the barrell load. Rappers are treated like Gods in every corner of the planet. You don't have to respect Hip-Hop culture. The entire world does.




Nothing middle class about him. Ask Jada Pinkett about how she and her friends used to have to give Pac clothes for Christmas because he didn't have any. He was raised by his single crackhead mother. Does that sound "middle-class" to you?

And jackass, in 1988, everything didn't have to be gangsta. Will Smith used to be a respected rapper. He even used to kill cats on the radio battles in Philly.

You know nothing about Hip-HOp. Back to Souljah Boy!



Naw, from what I've seen you post on here, you're a snob. I can see why you wouldn't like seeing a movie about a rapper, even though I'll tell you, every respected critic I've seen has said "Notorious" was a really good movie.



He did look like Biggie. I forgot about that, but he was one of Pac's Oakland homeboys. I don't think that would've gone down good.

Dude, be serious. You are telling me you'd want to see someone play Tupac? Tupac was a character that couldn't be duplicated. We saw everything we need to know about Tupac via his multiple documentaries. Why the hell would we want to see a fictionalized version of his life? The guy practically had cameras on him since he was like 15. I don't wanna see Tyron Turner or Larenz Tate shave their head & pretend to be him. Same with Biggie. What can we find out in a movie that we already don't know? But I guess it keeps his name alive & lets these youngsters know why he was such a respected rapper I guess. I prefer fact over fiction. Gimme American Gangster anyday over this crap.
 
Dude, be serious. You are telling me you'd want to see someone play Tupac? Tupac was a character that couldn't be duplicated. We saw everything we need to know about Tupac via his multiple documentaries. Why the hell would we want to see a fictionalized version of his life? The guy practically had cameras on him since he was like 15. I don't wanna see Tyron Turner or Larenz Tate shave their head & pretend to be him. Same with Biggie. What can we find out in a movie that we already don't know? But I guess it keeps his name alive & lets these youngsters know why he was such a respected rapper I guess. I prefer fact over fiction. Gimme American Gangster anyday over this crap.

notorious>>>>american gangster
 
On another note, does Angela Bassett have a Lazarus Pit in her house?

Who looks that good at 50?

Seriously....
 
My thing is why would you pay to see the same rehashed story that you already know the outcome of?? :confused:

heres the story............

Bad ass kid
sells some dope
gets discoverd
fuck some skanks
marry one
goes to L.A.
gets killed..........the end.

Let the dude rest in peace. :cool:

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I don't know about yall but I'm from N.Y and in N.Y. we love Biggie. He was one of the greatest if not thee greatest to ever do it comin from N.Y... Us losing him is equivalent to the west losin Pac or Mac Dre. Biggie may not be shit but a fake ass thug to yall but at the end of the day he has over 20 million records sold... He musta been doin something right! Not to mention he's the one that changed the game. He actually elevatd the game! Before Biggie everyone was rockin army fatigue's and timb boots, the west coast cats was rockin the cacky suits, and chuck taylors but Biggie bought in that whole bling bling era... Him & Jay-Z. Wearing Versace, Coogi, Suits, etc... Talkin money, and flashy shit. Then he got killed and the whole game shifted that way. Jay just took what Big started and ran with it. That's just my opinion tho!
 
I don't have much to say. But, I will say this. Regardless if you're someone who liked/loved Big or not, you had some interest in seeing the movie, be it going to the theater & paying, supporting the local bootlegger or downloading it online. So, this thread really shouldn't have turned into such an ugly debate. Some people expressed educated/adult opinions, which we are all entitled to. But some of y'all cats really go for the jugular on this board like it's some Frontline debate type of shit that you getting paid for with 1 million plus viewers or some shit. None of us (at least me personally) really gets insulted when someone responds negatively/childishly to something another poster says. You're not gonna kill yourself over it, or dwell on it into the wee hours of the night... at least I hope not.

We have to really get to a point where we can discuss things in a mature manner. Allow everyone to express their feelings and opinions and both respect and accept it as just that. We're two days away from the first officially listed black man setting foot in the White House as not a porter, butler, gopher, reporter or 2nd class civil servant, but as Commander-In-Chief. Not just his actions, but the actions of every black man, woman & child will reflect upon him. And if that last statement seems crazy, take some time and really think on it.

It takes too much time to sit around and respond negatively to someone's comment. Then, return with anxiety every 10 minutes or so to see "what this mutha-fucka had the audacity to say in response to the dis I just left." Trust me, I know sometimes people post things that deserve feedback, but that doesn't mean you gotta try to cut anyone down in those words. One point that should always be remembered is that barely any of us knows each other outside of this board. So it's really juvenile when you do shit like that. Not one to just point fingers, let be me be the first to say I've done it too. Not to the extreme that some of you get, but it was senseless all the same. And on top of that, I've made a concerted effort this past year to make positive changes within myself, this being one of them.

There will probably be someone to respond negatively to what I'm posting. But if I get through to just one person, it's all worth it. Like they say, "Each One, Teach One." But I'm not fit nor required to teach anyone accept my children. So I say, "Each One, Reach One." We used to have more cats that cared on this board back in '99-'01. I'm sure it's still a lot of em on here. The same way we can come together to send out prayers for Brother Sith Lord, it's obvious there's a lot of us on here who are more than porn addicts and/or internet gangsters.

I loved Big, Pac and a lot of other cats that are no longer with us. Someone asked earlier, why would we want to see this movie when we already know how the story ends. Well... let me sum it up like this and end mine. Because even though that person posted that statement, he'll ultimately watch it for the same reason we all did. You wanna see it as it happened or at least as close to it as possible. Whether you've read every book and article, seen every documentary and newscast. The movie camera does what none of the others can. It makes you part of the entourage, lol, the fly on the wall as we all at one point or another in life wish to be. Books are great, but you gotta use your imagination with it. The brain receives no greater stimuli than that transmitted optically. 2009 brothers... I got love for all y'all. The knowledge seekers like myself = because you seek upliftment & intellect... as well as the haters = because through your negative feedback you'll show me that I'm doing something right. 100
 
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I just watch the bootleg and the movie was so so......it's not worth going to the movies and check it out..:smh::smh:..but in all, the movie was so so




peace
 
Boring piece of shit.

Just like I thought poor casting and below average acting.:smh:

I guess it is good for a "Black movie".:dunno:
 
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just watched this shit last night, and it didn't help my view of biggie. nigga was a sucka for love who liked to sell these bitches dreams. they made pac look like a schizo, and the realest nigga in the whole flick was lil' cease. :lol::lol::lol:

angela bassetts over-acting was annoying, and if puffy said, "change the world" one more time, i woulda cracked my monitor. it did explain alot on why lil' kim is such a fucked up bitch, though. i give it 5 stars outta 10.
 
just saw it.

it wasn't a bad movie. shit was watchable.

my expectations were low going in tho.
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