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The Mayweather Method: Find an opponent who has zero chance of ever hitting you, much less hurting you, but who has some credentials, possibly a meaningless title won against inferior competition. Hype the mismatch for months, somehow convincing people eventually that the 7-1 underdog has a real chance. Convince the world that this is a grudge match, that you've been disrespected. Counterpunch to an easy victory, without ever really exchanging or risking being hit. Collect millions from those you've conned. Rant about how much you want to fight Pacquiao, even though you know you'll never fight him. Deposit money. Repeat annually, or maybe every 18 months or so. Wonder why nobody gives you credit for being the greatest of all time!
--Jon, Waite Park, Minnesota
This is an argument heard a lot, Jon. In this week's Sports Illustrated I write an essay saying, essentially, that this string of good-but-not-great fighters has to stop. Mayweather is very good at selling a fight; he was born to play the heel on 24/7. For that reason he doesn't have to fight Manny Pacquiao, because he can collect $30 to $40 million fighting Ortiz-like opponents.

I think the dude was onto something. But he forgets at the end of the day PBF always wins. Granted it may seem easy to beat people that virtually don't have a chance against you minus three the max. But still it has to be difficult to mentally prepare yourself for not allowing a metal lapse to allow a fighter that is beneath you to cause problems. He made mistakes with Chop Chop, but corrected that. He made a mistake with Shane and corrected it for the easy win it was destined to be. He corrected that when he fought castillio and showed he was not in the game by totally outclassing dude. You got to give him credit for those in ring exploits. I do believe he does take the easy fights. But you can do that in boxing. You can even never fight the best in your weight class and be called great. That is where boxing is today. It is pretty much like WWE. At least in wrestling the best fight the best and not use ploys that you don't even defend you point in court over or lie to stupid fans about bullshit about how Manny came up from 105. That shows you how WWE like the sport is. Just like those wrestlers. You can deny the talent and skills they have. But when you don't witness them in real competitive matches it mirrors boxing. This goes for all the boxing champs that do this crap these days.

The turning point for me was after BHOP fought Taylor. Bhop went into the ring Hollywood style. He had accolades, tv spots, and GBP in his pockets. He went into that fight thinking I'm above it all and instead of being against the machine he was a part of it. And lost twice because of that. I think it was an eye opener to people that even when you win. You have to put money and entertainment value over facing the biggest comp out there. It is just two risky to do that. Then a fighter can see PBF rise up to the highest level without really facing one threat except for Oscar. Which for him was worth it because it was his biggest payday. Boxing needs to change from this dropping titles and allowing mismatches be potrayed as great events. Superfights is a term we have not seen in a long time.Boxing fans deserved better. And the best fighters should want to do that for the fans.
 
I love how Mayweather's opponents get questioned and put under the microscope but not Manny's.

Cotto was coming off two brutal beatings and Roach even said he wasn't the same fighter. Clottey just stood there and basically got paid to be a loser coming off a loss. Margarito never deserved to fight again and had gotten his ass kicked in his previous fight. Marquez is being asked to move up 2 weight classes when allegedly Manny has trouble making 147. But Floyd's last 2 opponents were coming off of huge wins. Mosley ko'd Margarito and Ortiz took Berto's title. But Floyd is the slick cherry picking dude huh? Gtfoh.
 
in order for PBF to secure a legend and myth like Sugar ray Leonard or Ali he needs a nemesis or at least 2 or 3 fighters that could seriously challenge his skill.

Leonard had Hagler, Duran and Hearns

Ali had Frazier, Forman and ken norton

PBF doesn't have anyone and a rep for being a "heel" in boxing which is why he keeps crying (literally) about not getting respect. Should fight Pacman in three bouts even if they have to orchestrate it. Floyd needs to lose the first one, Pacman loses the second then they can fight the last one straight up. Tons of cash would be made but also it would be billed at the PBF/Pacman Wars and that shit would be legendary..

More than a perfect record THATS what makes careers and legacies. A fighter with a flawless record is good...but a fighter who has to over come adversity and comes out on the other end damaged but victorious is GREAT and a HERO.

Thats how Legends are born.

Floyd needs a nemesis.
 
I love how Mayweather's opponents get questioned and put under the microscope but not Manny's.

Cotto was coming off two brutal beatings and Roach even said he wasn't the same fighter. Clottey just stood there and basically got paid to be a loser coming off a loss. Margarito never deserved to fight again and had gotten his ass kicked in his previous fight. Marquez is being asked to move up 2 weight classes when allegedly Manny has trouble making 147. But Floyd's last 2 opponents were coming off of huge wins. Mosley ko'd Margarito and Ortiz took Berto's title. But Floyd is the slick cherry picking dude huh? Gtfoh.

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I love how Mayweather's opponents get questioned and put under the microscope but not Manny's.

Cotto was coming off two brutal beatings and Roach even said he wasn't the same fighter. Clottey just stood there and basically got paid to be a loser coming off a loss. Margarito never deserved to fight again and had gotten his ass kicked in his previous fight. Marquez is being asked to move up 2 weight classes when allegedly Manny has trouble making 147. But Floyd's last 2 opponents were coming off of huge wins. Mosley ko'd Margarito and Ortiz took Berto's title. But Floyd is the slick cherry picking dude huh? Gtfoh.

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I love how Mayweather's opponents get questioned and put under the microscope but not Manny's.

Cotto was coming off two brutal beatings and Roach even said he wasn't the same fighter. Clottey just stood there and basically got paid to be a loser coming off a loss. Margarito never deserved to fight again and had gotten his ass kicked in his previous fight. Marquez is being asked to move up 2 weight classes when allegedly Manny has trouble making 147. But Floyd's last 2 opponents were coming off of huge wins. Mosley ko'd Margarito and Ortiz took Berto's title. But Floyd is the slick cherry picking dude huh? Gtfoh.

Every boxing opinion can't be to your liking. Do you know what "displacement" is? That is what you are doing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(psychology)

I mentioned PBF but if you read it. You would see I was talking about the game of boxing. Lots of cats are taking easy fights and avoiding tough or the fights that need to be made. I wasn't going to break down all the examples for you. I thought it was clear I was talking about the sport as a whole.
 
Every boxing opinion can't be to your liking. Do you know what "displacement" is? That is what you are doing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(psychology)

I mentioned PBF but if you read it. You would see I was talking about the game of boxing. Lots of cats are taking easy fights and avoiding tough or the fights that need to be made. I wasn't going to break down all the examples for you. I thought it was clear I was talking about the sport as a whole.

But its titled the Mayweather Method???

Thats actually the PAC method...
BTW, are you Pinoy?

and also, I have a bachelors on Psych as one of my few degrees...fuck outta here with displacement.

its not displacement, Its called 'calling out biased ass fish eating ass pilipinos'
 
But its titled the Mayweather Method???

Thats actually the PAC method...
BTW, are you Pinoy?

and also, I have a bachelors on Psych as one of my few degrees...fuck outta here with displacement.

its not displacement, Its called 'calling out biased ass fish eating ass pilipinos'

:hithead::hithead::hithead:
 
But its titled the Mayweather Method???

Thats actually the PAC method...
BTW, are you Pinoy?

and also, I have a bachelors on Psych as one of my few degrees...fuck outta here with displacement.

its not displacement, Its called 'calling out biased ass fish eating ass Pili-pinos'

So besides getting a piece of paper for not learn shit. I guess you also majored in stupid racist stuff. Good luck at using those pieces of papers in the future.
 
So besides getting a piece of paper for not learn shit. I guess you also majored in stupid racist stuff. Good luck at using those pieces of papers in the future.

I'm content with my life, education, and income playa. no need for me to even argue that with you...

I just get tired of these white boys and Pili-pinos overlooking all the great PBF has done for the sport and put all the credit on a PED using 'hype'
 
I'm content with my life, education, and income playa. no need for me to even argue that with you...

I just get tired of these white boys and Pili-pinos overlooking all the great PBF has done for the sport and put all the credit on a PED using 'hype'

You are the one that interjected stupidity in the conversation. All the points i made were valid. They might not have been geared for your approval. But that isnt why the thread was created. I used the staement about pbf as a segue to the larger issue on why boxing is failing.
 
I love how Mayweather's opponents get questioned and put under the microscope but not Manny's.

Cotto was coming off two brutal beatings and Roach even said he wasn't the same fighter. Clottey just stood there and basically got paid to be a loser coming off a loss. Margarito never deserved to fight again and had gotten his ass kicked in his previous fight. Marquez is being asked to move up 2 weight classes when allegedly Manny has trouble making 147. But Floyd's last 2 opponents were coming off of huge wins. Mosley ko'd Margarito and Ortiz took Berto's title. But Floyd is the slick cherry picking dude huh? Gtfoh.

Cotto was only coming off one "brutal" beating when he faced Pacquiao and that was two fights before he fought Manny. However, I agree that he was softened up by the time he got to Manny and I think he's still softened up right now.

Marquez wants Pacquiao and he wants Pacquiao's title. Marquez is the one chasing Pacquiao. In this particular situation, Pacquiao is the one in control. Mayweather probably could have made 140 if he wanted to against Ricky Hatton but Hatton was the one that wanted him so he had to go to 147. No big deal, IMO.

I think Floyd's pick of Ortiz and Mosley weren't shameful at all given the circumstances. Those were legitimate fights and he shouldn't be faulted for them. I fault Floyd more for his lack of activity in the division and the sport of boxing in general.
 
You are the one that interjected stupidity in the conversation. All the points i made were valid. They might not have been geared for your approval. But that isnt why the thread was created. I used the staement about pbf as a segue to the larger issue on why boxing is failing.

exactly, why does he have to be the segue?
Especially when you see PAC getting big money off these catch weight fights?
You realize Pac's most notable wins are over opponents that PBF beat first?

Looks like he does the same thing...however, you only pointed out BHOP and PBF
 
exactly, why does he have to be the segue?
Especially when you see PAC getting big money off these catch weight fights?
You realize Pac's most notable wins are over opponents that PBF beat first?

Looks like he does the same thing...however, you only pointed out BHOP and PBF

But its titled the Mayweather Method???

Thats actually the PAC method...
BTW, are you Pinoy?

and also, I have a bachelors on Psych as one of my few degrees...fuck outta here with displacement.

its not displacement, Its called 'calling out biased ass fish eating ass pilipinos'

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You know that said this same thing about Roy.... But for the old heads was Sugar Ray ducking Pryor? Or was that some Floyd is ducking Manny shit?

in order for PBF to secure a legend and myth like Sugar ray Leonard or Ali he needs a nemesis or at least 2 or 3 fighters that could seriously challenge his skill.

Leonard had Hagler, Duran and Hearns

Ali had Frazier, Forman and ken norton

PBF doesn't have anyone and a rep for being a "heel" in boxing which is why he keeps crying (literally) about not getting respect. Should fight Pacman in three bouts even if they have to orchestrate it. Floyd needs to lose the first one, Pacman loses the second then they can fight the last one straight up. Tons of cash would be made but also it would be billed at the PBF/Pacman Wars and that shit would be legendary..

More than a perfect record THATS what makes careers and legacies. A fighter with a flawless record is good...but a fighter who has to over come adversity and comes out on the other end damaged but victorious is GREAT and a HERO.

Thats how Legends are born.

Floyd needs a nemesis.
 
I think Floyd's pick of Ortiz and Mosley weren't shameful at all given the circumstances. Those were legitimate fights and he shouldn't be faulted for them. I fault Floyd more for his lack of activity in the division and the sport of boxing in general.

The fights were not shameful. Just more of the same. Pbf not taking on a real challenge. It reminds me of the emporer's new robe. Fooling people into seeing something that isn't there. Like he is facing a legit challenge.

At least with vlad and vitali we know they have no challengers. But then again they dont go around bragging they are the best in a weak division. You dont having manny saying the same thing and at the same time avoiding challenges. But you got pbf saying he is the best and his resume is full of swiss cheese and fights against fighters that have no chance. Boxing is lucky to only have one fighter like him. He may making money but he doesnt enhance the sports. Just like the heavyweight division sucking. Bhop fighting against a dude he should have fought a long time ago and jmm having to move up twice to fight guys that at that weight he just can't beat. Boxing is past the crossroads. I just wonder if it can catch back up.
 
exactly, why does he have to be the segue?
Especially when you see PAC getting big money off these catch weight fights?
You realize Pac's most notable wins are over opponents that PBF beat first?

Looks like he does the same thing...however, you only pointed out BHOP and PBF

Lol then you don't follow boxing if you believe manny's most notable wins are over people pbf beat. And i can be critical. Bhop is in my top 5 favorite fighters of all time. Yet I can still find fault with him.
 
Should fight Pacman in three bouts even if they have to orchestrate it. Floyd needs to lose the first one, Pacman loses the second then they can fight the last one straight up. Tons of cash would be made but also it would be billed at the PBF/Pacman Wars and that shit would be legendary..

Nah thats stupid.The idea is to become greater than your predecessors not shoot for just being on there level.Right now Floyd is undefeated,rich and a household name.Should he continue to win while testing himself against other potential greats like Pac,Martinez etc he will have done something those other greats u mentioned were unable to do but it is crucial he face the elite competition or that "0" on his record is meaningless.
 
Nah thats stupid.The idea is to become greater than your predecessors not shoot for just being on there level.Right now Floyd is undefeated,rich and a household name.Should he continue to win while testing himself against other potential greats like Pac,Martinez etc he will have done something those other greats u mentioned were unable to do but it is crucial he face the elite competition or that "0" on his record is meaningless.

You would think that people that watched Ali, Hearns, Spinks, Leonard, Foreman, and other do that, would get that.
 
You know that said this same thing about Roy.... But for the old heads was Sugar Ray ducking Pryor? Or was that some Floyd is ducking Manny shit?

Ray may have been ducking pryor but he fought others that gave him a real challange in career so no one (other than deep hardcore fight fanantics) will ask that question.

I'm talking about the narrative of a competition or the rivalry. Its that that really makes the game more interesting. Two equally matched opponents (or as equal as they can be)going head to head..

Roy Jones jr didn't have that in his career and now that he's done what does anyone have to look back at? A string of successive knock outs of overmatched opponents? nice but when that fight reel is over what how does it make you FEEL?

People STILL have visceral opinions about Frazier/Ali or Sugar ray and Hearns..

Jones had Tarver but that came along too late in his career..had the Jones/Tarver match up happened 10-15 years earlier we still be talking about it today.

Its the narrative and rivalry that makes it better.
 
Nah thats stupid.The idea is to become greater than your predecessors not shoot for just being on there level.Right now Floyd is undefeated,rich and a household name.Should he continue to win while testing himself against other potential greats like Pac,Martinez etc he will have done something those other greats u mentioned were unable to do but it is crucial he face the elite competition or that "0" on his record is meaningless.

thats basically what I said and you called it stupid:confused::lol::confused:
 
I really think Buk is filipino or Asian...his caping for Pac & hate for May makes me think this way....

he critiques every little thing about May but never criticizes Pac like the "Catchweight King" doesn't have ridiculous requirements in almost all of his fights lately....
 
I really think Buk is filipino or Asian...his caping for Pac & hate for May makes me think this way....

he critiques every little thing about May but never criticizes Pac like the "Catchweight King" doesn't have ridiculous requirements in almost all of his fights lately....


That's cause you don't read. I always said I hate the catchweight thing. Manny should come in at 142 or 145 and fight the opponent at whatever weight they come in at as long as they make 147 ot 154. Catchweight is stupid. So is fighting a person out their preferred weight class like he is doing JMM. This is not new. That is how I feel. Just like I give PBF credit for what he has done. I can also be critical. I have even said I expect PBF to beat Manny. I can make this a siggy if you need it, lol.
 
Cotto was only coming off one "brutal" beating when he faced Pacquiao and that was two fights before he fought Manny. However, I agree that he was softened up by the time he got to Manny and I think he's still softened up right now.

Marquez wants Pacquiao and he wants Pacquiao's title. Marquez is the one chasing Pacquiao. In this particular situation, Pacquiao is the one in control. Mayweather probably could have made 140 if he wanted to against Ricky Hatton but Hatton was the one that wanted him so he had to go to 147. No big deal, IMO.

I think Floyd's pick of Ortiz and Mosley weren't shameful at all given the circumstances. Those were legitimate fights and he shouldn't be faulted for them. I fault Floyd more for his lack of activity in the division and the sport of boxing in general.

Cotto had 2 brutal fights out of the 3 before Pacman. Anyway this is semantics. Marquez has been chasing Pac for years, all of a sudden at a weight Marquez looked terrible at - Manny wants to fight him?:confused:
 
The fights were not shameful. Just more of the same. Pbf not taking on a real challenge. It reminds me of the emporer's new robe. Fooling people into seeing something that isn't there. Like he is facing a legit challenge.

At least with vlad and vitali we know they have no challengers. But then again they dont go around bragging they are the best in a weak division. You dont having manny saying the same thing and at the same time avoiding challenges. But you got pbf saying he is the best and his resume is full of swiss cheese and fights against fighters that have no chance. Boxing is lucky to only have one fighter like him. He may making money but he doesnt enhance the sports. Just like the heavyweight division sucking. Bhop fighting against a dude he should have fought a long time ago and jmm having to move up twice to fight guys that at that weight he just can't beat. Boxing is past the crossroads. I just wonder if it can catch back up.

Regarding the swiss cheese, I agree. Floyd has missed a whole bunch of dudes at 147 and has never dominated the 147 pound division even though he's been there for quite a while now. At least Roy Jones and Bhop were shutting down their divisions completely by unifying all belts and facing almost every single guy in the top ten of their respective divisions. Floyd was in a hot division and conveniently decided to retire when it got good with Cotto, Williams, Cintron, Margarito, etc. He sat in a division with guys like that and chose to instead fight a Ricky Hatton that wasn't even in the division and a Marquez that was even smaller than Hatton. He was a welterweight refusing to fight welterweights. Only recently has Mayweather just begun to do some more respectful work in the 147lb division.
 
The fights were not shameful. Just more of the same. Pbf not taking on a real challenge. It reminds me of the emporer's new robe. Fooling people into seeing something that isn't there. Like he is facing a legit challenge.

At least with vlad and vitali we know they have no challengers. But then again they dont go around bragging they are the best in a weak division. You dont having manny saying the same thing and at the same time avoiding challenges. But you got pbf saying he is the best and his resume is full of swiss cheese and fights against fighters that have no chance. Boxing is lucky to only have one fighter like him. He may making money but he doesnt enhance the sports. Just like the heavyweight division sucking. Bhop fighting against a dude he should have fought a long time ago and jmm having to move up twice to fight guys that at that weight he just can't beat. Boxing is past the crossroads. I just wonder if it can catch back up.

So who is a REAL challenge to Floyd other than Martinez - ya'll niccas just mad because duke is more skilled than everyone else that he could possibly face and ya'll subconsciously wanna see this loud mouthed "nigga" put in his place. I bet ya'll would become dukes biggest fans if he lost.
 
That's cause you don't read. I always said I hate the catchweight thing. Manny should come in at 142 or 145 and fight the opponent at whatever weight they come in at as long as they make 147 ot 154. Catchweight is stupid. So is fighting a person out their preferred weight class like he is doing JMM. This is not new. That is how I feel. Just like I give PBF credit for what he has done. I can also be critical. I have even said I expect PBF to beat Manny. I can make this a siggy if you need it, lol.

I don't read yet I post in all your boxing threads dude plz....:rolleyes:

you always going at May fam I'm not the only one that notice this....

Manny got JMM fighting at 144 for this fight when he can easily make 140 himself...where are the threads or uproar about that?
 
So who is a REAL challenge to Floyd other than Martinez - ya'll niccas just mad because duke is more skilled than everyone else that he could possibly face and ya'll subconsciously wanna see this loud mouthed "nigga" put in his place. I bet ya'll would become dukes biggest fans if he lost.

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