The Kalief Browder Story. Catch it on Spike. NY Raises age limit and plans to close Rikers

Nah he was being held on a probation hold cuz of a felony plea bargain for stealing a bread truck ( passenger joyride) he was sentenced to 5 years probation as 16 year old..
He system provides enough rope to hang yourself so individuals need to be truly mindful of the long term effects of plea bargains... which comes back to finances-no finances means u do not possess the means to adequately defend....
Ok- and yes u can avoid all by doing no crimes....yet this case shows how even if you do nothing wrong u can still find urself stuck in the jaws of the system

Thank you for the info, for the longest I thought the family didn't come up with 10% of the $3000 bail.
 
Wild that I can watch all the slave movies...loved 12 Years...can't bring myself to watch this...RIP to the young man and his moms...Jay Z does some fuck shit but he came through on this one
 
It's been said before our community need to unite as one. They fighting each other on a daily basis, razor cut, black eyes, broke bones. We fighting the wrong people. While the pigs lock us up, shoot us, set no bail, wait years for a court date.

The inmates are listening to Corrections Officers, meanwhile the inmates out number the C.O. Sad story they all (inmates) in there doing a bid. We in this shit together period.

Had me thinking if they united like the last episode in Spartacus season 1. They could take over the whole Rikers Islands.
 
Idk if y'all saw part 3 but his brother's story sheds light on Kalief's stance.

I saw that and was mixed with thoughts on his brother. First he got rail roaded being called a rapist etc. then on the second hand you have to make better choices. Getting head or whatever from a chick on the side of school. We have all made dumb decisions like that but it just shows where we have to make good decisions.
 
I saw that and was mixed with thoughts on his brother. First he got rail roaded being called a rapist etc. then on the second hand you have to make better choices. Getting head or whatever from a chick on the side of school. We have all made dumb decisions like that but it just shows where we have to make good decisions.

He was 15 years old bruh. Fifteen man. Not the age to start the blame game. Especially when it's consensual.
 
It's been said before our community need to unite as one. They fighting each other on a daily basis, razor cut, black eyes, broke bones. We fighting the wrong people. While the pigs lock us up, shoot us, set no bail, wait years for a court date.

The inmates are listening to Corrections Officers, meanwhile the inmates out number the C.O. Sad story they all (inmates) in there doing a bid. We in this shit together period.

Had me thinking if they united like the last episode in Spartacus season 1. They could take over the whole Rikers Islands.
Why would that be a good thing? Most of them are pos who beling there
 
Why would that be a good thing? Most of them are pos who beling there

No doubt most of them belong in there, some don't but get treated as if they do belong. Imagine if they work at a shitty as job together. Yes the pay and work sucks, why do we need to fight because the boss wants us to?

They need to in jail work on educating themselves. Studying the court system and work on getting one of there's free.
 
He was 15 years old bruh. Fifteen man. Not the age to start the blame game. Especially when it's consensual.

I bet if you asked his brother would he go back and get sucked up again he would say no. We as Black men have to make better decisions. Not once in that documentary have they mentioned a father or male figure head. That plays a big role on children.
 
I bet if you asked his brother would he go back and get sucked up again he would say no. We as Black men have to make better decisions. Not once in that documentary have they mentioned a father or male figure head. That plays a big role on children.

Him being target and labeled a rapist doesn't have anything with them him sneaking off to do TEENAGE shit. He fit a description and they needed a collar so he was arrested.

Let's not act like he was caught at the side of the school. He was detained walking into his apartment with his mother and sister. And he only took the plea because unlike Kalief, he couldn't do the time. What's even more fucked up is they found the actual serial rapist and still charged this 16 year. I'm all with us as black man making sound decisions but to place blame on his brother doesn't apply.

Fucked up this guy's life. Face blasted everywhere, felony at 16 and is a registered sex offender for the rest of his life.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/sex-arrest-relief-bronx-article-1.792092
 
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Sick, sad, angry.. Bunch of mixed emotions man

Exactly.

Mayor Backs Plan to Close Rikers and Open Jails Elsewhere
Mayor Bill de Blasio has agreed on the contours of a plan to close the troubled jail complex on Rikers Island within 10 years, a move he said was intended to end the era of mass incarceration in New York City.

The details of his plan were not immediately clear, though they were expected to include some of the recommendations in the 97-page report by an independent commission, led by Judge Jonathan Lippman and created by the City Council last year to study the issue.

The commission’s top recommendation, according to a draft of the report reviewed by The New York Times, is to move inmates off Rikers Island and into a system of smaller, borough-based jails, at a cost of $10.6 billion.

“The commission believes that the use of Rikers Island must be phased out over the next 10 years and its facilities demolished,” the report recommends.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/...lan-to-close-jails-on-rikers-island.html?_r=0
 
Exactly.

Mayor Backs Plan to Close Rikers and Open Jails Elsewhere
Mayor Bill de Blasio has agreed on the contours of a plan to close the troubled jail complex on Rikers Island within 10 years, a move he said was intended to end the era of mass incarceration in New York City.

The details of his plan were not immediately clear, though they were expected to include some of the recommendations in the 97-page report by an independent commission, led by Judge Jonathan Lippman and created by the City Council last year to study the issue.

The commission’s top recommendation, according to a draft of the report reviewed by The New York Times, is to move inmates off Rikers Island and into a system of smaller, borough-based jails, at a cost of $10.6 billion.

“The commission believes that the use of Rikers Island must be phased out over the next 10 years and its facilities demolished,” the report recommends.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/31/...lan-to-close-jails-on-rikers-island.html?_r=0

In addition to that, NY law has to change the trying of 16 year olds as adult. The youth is the a major reason why Rikers is so wild. No way a 16 year old should be in prison with grown men.

https://rewire.news/article/2017/03...ew-york-stop-prosecuting-16-year-olds-adults/
 
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I think the documentary was very biased and took the easy way out. The majority of the documentary focused on Rikers island and criticized correction officers. They barely mentioned the cops that arrested Kaleif and the judges, lawyers and prosecutors that allowed him to spend 3 years on the island.

They imply that Kaleif came to rikers and was tossed in solitary when he was just a kid peacefully trying to do his bid. They claim he got beat up a couple of times and complained about cold food so he was thrown in the box. I personally know officers that dealt with him on the island. He spent 2 years in the box because he was an asshole and earned every one of those box days. Inmates aren't just arbitrarily thrown in the box for years. You have to earn those box days by breaking rules over and over. The vast majority of inmates never go to the box.

People claim that solitary confinement hurts inmates. It's ironic that once the department scaled back solitary confinement violence against inmates and officers exploded. People forget that Rikers is occupied by the worst of the worst. How are you supposed to stop inmates from committing acts of violence when there are no consequences for their actions? You can't fuck them up, can't send them to solitary confinement, the da isn't hitting them with new charges. The officers literally have no control. Rikers island is run by bloods and latin kings.
 
I think the documentary was very biased and took the easy way out. The majority of the documentary focused on Rikers island and criticized correction officers. They barely mentioned the cops that arrested Kaleif and the judges, lawyers and prosecutors that allowed him to spend 3 years on the island.

They imply that Kaleif came to rikers and was tossed in solitary when he was just a kid peacefully trying to do his bid. They claim he got beat up a couple of times and complained about cold food so he was thrown in the box. I personally know officers that dealt with him on the island. He spent 2 years in the box because he was an asshole and earned every one of those box days. Inmates aren't just arbitrarily thrown in the box for years. You have to earn those box days by breaking rules over and over. The vast majority of inmates never go to the box.

People claim that solitary confinement hurts inmates. It's ironic that once the department scaled back solitary confinement violence against inmates and officers exploded. People forget that Rikers is occupied by the worst of the worst. How are you supposed to stop inmates from committing acts of violence when there are no consequences for their actions? You can't fuck them up, can't send them to solitary confinement, the da isn't hitting them with new charges. The officers literally have no control. Rikers island is run by bloods and latin kings.

So your Pro Solitary confinement?
 
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So your Pro Solitary confinement?

Yeah definitely. What consequences are there for inmates who break the rules or can't be controlled if there is no solitary confinement? I would love to hear your ideas.

We didn't even take it away completely on Rikers. All we did was reduce the time they could be in the box to 90 days a year 30 days at a time. Now motherfuckers are cutting each other and beating people up left and right.
 
Yeah definitely. What consequences are there for inmates who break the rules or can't be controlled if there is no solitary confinement? I would love to hear your ideas.

We didn't even take it away completely on Rikers. All we did was reduce the time they could be in the box to 90 days a year 30 days at a time. Now motherfuckers are cutting each other and beating people up left and right.

@moblack

I think the dudes consistently wilding should get psychological help, not just box time.

Even though I have friends who are currently CO's at Rikers, that shit has to go. Creating new, smaller facilities for each borough could possibly curtail the violence.
 
@moblack

I think the dudes consistently wilding should get psychological help, not just box time.

Even though I have friends who are currently CO's at Rikers, that shit has to go. Creating new, smaller facilities for each borough could possibly curtail the violence.

We do afford inmates psychological help and the island has many mental health units. But what do you do to the guys that are just assholes and sociopaths? Do you suggest we force medicate them?

Smaller commands are not the answer. As long as inmates do what they want without consequences. Brooklyn house, mdc and the west facility are 3 of the smallest commands and they are the 3 of the 4 most violence plagued commands. The 4th command is GMDC which is the facility that banned the box for 19 year olds.
 
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We do afford inmates psychological help and the island has many mental health units. But what do you do to the guys that are just assholes and sociopaths? Do you suggest we force medicate them?

Smaller commands are not the answer. As long as inmates do what they want without consequences. Brooklyn house, mdc and the west facility are 3 of the smallest commands and they are the 3 of the 4 most violence plagued commands. The 4th command is GMDC which is the facility that banned the box for 19 year olds.

Speedy trials and increasing the age limit hopefully stems some of the sociopath behavior that can result for being stuck in limbo or put in a box for a month straight.

And it's unfair to say something won't work until you try it.
 
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