The Iraq invasion was based on a LIE

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The Iraq invasion was based on a LIE

Curveball (Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi) let imagination run wild and
became main source for Colin Powell's case for war in 2003. -----



In a small flat in the German town of Erlangen in February 2003, an
out-of-work Iraqi sat down with his wife to watch one of the world's
most powerful men deliver the speech of his career on live TV.



As US secretary of state, Colin Powell gathered his notes in front of
the United Nations security council, the man watching — Rafid Ahmed
Alwan al-Janabi, known to the west's intelligence services as
"Curveball" — had more than an inkling of what was to come. He was,
after all, Powell's main source, a man his German handlers had feted as a
new "Deep throat" — an agent so pivotal that he could bring down a
government.



As Curveball watched Powell make the US case to invade Iraq, he was
hiding an admission that he has not made until now: that nearly every
word he had told his interrogators from Germany's secret service, the
BND, was a lie.



Everything he had said about the inner workings of Saddam Hussein's
biological weapons programme was a flight of fantasy - one that, he now
claims was aimed at ousting the Iraqi dictator. Janabi, a chemical
engineering graduate who had worked in the Iraqi industry, says he
looked on in shock as Powell's presentation revealed that the Bush
administration's hawkish decisionmakers had swallowed the lot. Something
else left him even more amazed; until that point he had not met a US
official, let alone been interviewed by one.



"I had the chance to fabricate something to topple the regime," he told
the Guardian in a series of interviews carried out in his native Arabic
and German. "I and my sons are proud of that, and we are proud that we
were the reason to give Iraq the margin of democracy."



His interviews with the Guardian, which took place over two days,
appeared to be partly a purge of conscience, partly an attempt to
justify what he did. It also seems to be a bid to resurrect his own
reputation, which might help him start again in Iraq — a country that
eight years later is still reeling from more than 100,000 civilian
deaths and the aftermath of a savage sectarian war.



The man who pulled off one of the greatest confidence tricks in the
history of modern intelligence was not easy to pin down. He arrived at a
hotel in his adopted home town of Karlsruhe, looking haggard after a
sleepless night spent emailing. Heavy set, with plaintive eyes, smelling
strongly of cigarettes, and shuffling with nervous energy, he slunk
into a chair to begin answering questions, a process he seemed very
familiar with.



"Colin Powell didn' t say I was the only reason for this war," he said.
"He talked about three things. First of all, uranium; secondly,
al-Qaida; and thirdly, my story.



"I don't know why the other sources, for the uranium and al-Qaida,
remained hidden and my name got out. I accept it, though, because I did
something for my country and for me that was enough."



Since the fall of Baghdad, Curveball's identity had been sought
throughout Iraq and Europe. He was finally outed in late 2007 as the
main source for Powell's speech, but has tried to keep a low profile
ever since, refusing — under the orders of the BND — the approaches of
the few reporters who had tracked him downto Karlsruhe.



The only other time Curveball has agreed to be interviewed was in late
2007, when he told CNN that he had been set up as a fall guy by the BND
and had never breathed a word to them about WMD. Last year, he called
the police on a Danish documentary crew who came knocking.



Curveball claims he was granted asylum by the German government on 13
March 2000, less than six months after arriving in Germany and before he
had even been asked a question about biological weapons. He emphasises
this point, aware that he could be seen as a simple opportunist. "The
story about the biochemical weapons had nothing to do with my asylum
claim. The German state — well, the BND, or someone from Germany, have
said that I told them about the chemicals, because I wanted to claim
asylum. That's not true."



He says that around three weeks after he was granted asylum, a German
official, whom he identified as Dr Paul, came to see him. On his
application, he had said he had worked as a chemical engineer, a fact
that attracted extra attention.



"He told me he needed some information about my life. He said it was
very important, that Iraq had a dictator and I needed to help."



At this point, according to Curveball, he decided to let his imagination
run wild. For the next six months, he sat with Paul — the BND's
resident expert on weapons of mass destruction - and calling upon his
knowledge of chemical engineering from university and from his work in
Baghdad, he manufactured a tale of dread.



This period was the genesis of Powell's fateful speech; what Curveball
told Paul became the key pillar of Powell's UN presentation — the
diagrams he displayed of mobile weapons trucks that could dispense
biotoxins into the wind.



"We have first-hand descriptions of biological weapons factories on
wheels," Powell said. "The source was an eyewitness — an Iraqi chemical
engineer who supervised one of these facilities. He was present during
biological agent production runs. He was also at the site when an
accident occurred in 1998. Twelve technicians died."



The effect at the UN was dramatic. Here was a detailed first-hand
account from an insider of the sinister and deceptive inner workings of
Saddam's regime. It was tangible evidence; far more compelling than the
other two elements of Powell's case for war, which seemed scant in
detail and unlikely to persuade the invasion's naysayers.



Even now, Curveball seems bemused that his lies got as far as they did.
He says he thought the game was up by the end of 2000. By that point,
the BND had flown to Dubai to interview his former boss at Iraq's
military industrial complex, Dr Basil Latif, who had told them that his
former underling was a liar.



Several British intelligence officers were present at the meeting with
Latif. Their German counterparts left Dubai seeing their prized source
in a new light.



According to them, Curveball had claimed that Latif's son, who was then
at school in Britain, was a procurer of WMD. That information was easily
proven wrong by the British spooks.



The BND then returned to Germany and sent an officer to confront their
source. "He says 'there (are) no trucks' and I say, ok, when (Dr Basil
says) there are no trucks then (there are none)," Curveball recalled in
broken English. "I did not speak to them again until (the) end of May
2002."



By the time the BND came calling again, Curveball says he had fended for
himself for almost 18 months. He had been paid a monthly stipend by his
handler, but had not been asked to do anything for the state.



"When he come back to me, he don't ask me (the same questions)," he says
of the 2002 meetings. "He ask me, for example, the name of signs, the
name of establishment, do you know this person." He admitted continuing
to lie to his interrogators throughout the year.



Curveball suggests that the BND implied that his then-pregnant wife, who
was at that point trying to get to Germany from Spain, would not be
able to join him unless he co-operated. "He says, you work with us or
your wife and child go to Morocco."



According to his account, there were at least a dozen meetings in 2002.
He says none of the new round of questions dealt with a birdseed
purification plant, in Djerf al-Nadaf in south-east Baghdad, that he had
claimed was where Saddam's bioweapons programme was based.



This was supposed to be where the mobile trucks were loaded up. "The BND
did not ask me about this project, because they knew I was not right."



But in January 2003, several weeks before Powell's speech, the
interrogation returned to trucks and birdseed. "That was the first time
they had talked to me about this since 2000." Curveball says it was
clear to him that the drums of war were beating ever louder, but he
maintains that he still thought his story about the mobile trucks had
been discounted.



Then came the UN speech. He says the BND had told him that everything he
had told them would stay in Germany and that he was shocked to see
Powell holding up diagrams that he knew had been prepared from his
fraudulent descriptions.



"So I call the person that is responsible for me. I tell him that I see
what Colin says, and he says 'ok, this ist ein klein', a small problem.
You come ... tomorrow, and you speak with me. (He said) you must go now
from this home because this flat is very dangerous for you and for your
family. From 9 April you can return."



For the next two months, Curveball claims he was in virtual lockdown,
prevented by the BND from watching TV and having limited contact with
anyone outside his hotel. He said he knew the war had begun from
snatched conversations with strangers.



Asked about how he felt as the bodycount among of countrymen mounted and
Iraq descended into chaos, Curveball shifted uncomfortably in his
chair, then said: "I tell you something when I hear anybody – not just
in Iraq but in any war – (is) killed, I am very sad. But give me another
solution. Can you give me another solution?



"Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to Iraq. There were no other possibilities."



"Saddam did not [allow] freedom in our land. There are no other
political parties. You have to believe what Saddam says, and do what
Saddam wants. And I don't accept that. I have to do something for my
country. So I did this and I am satisfied, because there is no dictator
in Iraq any more."



Curveball's reinvention as a liberator and patriot is a tough sell to
many in the CIA, the BND and in the Bush administration, whose careers
were terminally wounded as mystery surrounding the whereabouts of the
missing bioweapons in the post-invasion months turned into the reality
that there were none.



His critics — who are many and powerful — say the cost of his deception
is too difficult to estimate, even now. As the US scales back its
presence in Iraq it is leaving behind an unstable country, whose
allegiance — after eight years of blood and treasure — may not be to the
US and its allies after all. For Curveball though, it's time to
reinvent himself. He has returned twice to Iraq and started a political
party, winning a modest 1,700-odd votes in the general election last
March. He has also written a manuscript about his past 10 years and is
looking for a publisher.



In the meantime, things seem to be turning increasingly sour with the
BND. The spooks helped him, his wife and two children get German
citizenship in 2008. At the same time they cut off his stipend of €3,000
(£2,500) per month and told him to fend for himself.



That has proved difficult around Karlsruhe, a medium-sized university
town near the French/German border where his reputation as a fantasist
travels ahead of him. On the first day of our interviews, an official at
the town hall told him he and his family are forbidden from leaving the
country.



He now spends his days in a rented flat on the outskirts of town with a
doting wife — who says she only learned of her husband's exploits three
years ago — and two young children. He no longer has the Mercedes Benz
that the BND had supplied him with. And he is well aware that the secret
service — and his new homeland – seems to be fast tiring of him.



"I will be honest with you. I now have a lot of problems because the BND
have taken away my flat, taken my mobile phone: I'm in a bad position.
But if I could go back to 2000, if someone asked me, I would say the
same thing because I wouldn't want that regime to continue in our
country."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/15/curveball-iraqi-fantasist-cia-saddam
 

Can't reiterate the truth enough as the republiklans even now in 2012 continue to try to <s>spin</s> lie reality into the 'memory hole'


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It's been almost ten fucking years since I introduced the Politics board to the count.....

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Ain't shit change....he still counts ZERO weapons of mass destruction!!!!
 
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It's been almost ten fucking years since I introduced the Politics board to the count.....

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Ain't shit change....he still counts ZERO weapons of mass destruction!!!!


I was going to ask you earlier, where's "The Count" ! ! !

 
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I was going to ask you earlier, where's "The Count" ! ! !


He was in the unemployment line. Ain't shit to count. Well he could have counted the number of Americans who flip flopped on the Iraq war from 2003 to 2008. :smh:

Shame we lost all those posts from that era. BGOL called all this mess. We still in Afghanistan like I said. Remember how quick that was supposed to be? :smh:
 
He was in the unemployment line. Ain't shit to count. Well he could have counted the number of Americans who flip flopped on the Iraq war from 2003 to 2008. :smh:

Shame we lost all those posts from that era. BGOL called all this mess. We still in Afghanistan like I said. Remember how quick that was supposed to be? :smh:

Part of the reason the American populace is so easily bamboozled into supporting whatever "new" bullshit war the military-industrial-complex imagines up is precisely because of this appalling short term memory and refusal to consider even very recent history. :smh:
 
Part of the reason the American populace is so easily bamboozled into supporting whatever "new" bullshit war the military-industrial-complex imagines up is precisely because of this appalling short term memory and refusal to consider even very recent history. :smh:

Not to mention worrying about social issues like gay marriage and abortion. :smh: Too worried about fetuses they won't support or what consenting adults decide to do with their lives.
 
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