The GOP will never get Black voters and they don't want us

there's really no reason to want our vote. The Latino vote is far more valuable due to their spiraling population numbers. We only make up about 11 to 13 percent of the population of this country. If you take away incarcerated black males that number goes down to six to seven percent. So in reality the black vote really isn't worth fighting for for the Republican Party.

:yes::smh::yes::smh::yes:

Sad but true!

Add in voter apathy and the whole "Voting doesn't do any good!" thinking that quite a few in our community have!:smh:
 
If these CACS can get black people to vote without having to return anything, services, jobs etc, they would be happy to have this to show this proof they are inclusive. But we are talking about CACS from apartheid and jim crow and they don't know it known that they won because black people were involved.

-VG
 
Of course you're right. And I believe the comments above from Michael Steele and others are reflective of that sentiment. And the words of the party hacks post 2012 presidential election bear it out as well: "outreach" "inclusiveness" -- but their actions have been to the contrary i.e., voter suppression aimed at lessening the black vote for their party-opponent, instead of realistically trying to attract that vote to the GOP.

That's why I say it's a combination of things: apathy, laziness, racism, and being too attached and dependent on the White racist vote and money. The stands necessary to reach Black voters would surely alienate some of their tried and true voters they need, especially in primaries.

there's really no reason to want our vote. The Latino vote is far more valuable due to their spiraling population numbers. We only make up about 11 to 13 percent of the population of this country. If you take away incarcerated black males that number goes down to six to seven percent. So in reality the black vote really isn't worth fighting for for the Republican Party.

The problem with that thinking (and I'm sure that's a mathematics many Republicans use) is that there is only one national election. Every other election is local and in many places, particularly in the South, the Black vote is/can be a powerful bloc. Black voters are not the majority of voters here in Charlotte but we form the largest bloc and whoever the Black political establishment endorses generally wins.
If they worked as hard to reach Black voters, and not in that superficial way they do now, the GOP could lock up Florida, NC, and Virginia instead of having to try to resort to tricks that end up costing them in the long run.
 
Then they wonder why our "community" is in the predicament that it is in.

Cause and effect.

:yes:

It's not coincidence that the communities that always have the politician's ear are the ones that vote and participate in the electoral system the most, the wealthy and the elderly, while those that get the least attention (until election time, of course) are the ones that participate the least, the young and Black voters.
 
there's really no reason to want our vote. The Latino vote is far more valuable due to their spiraling population numbers. We only make up about 11 to 13 percent of the population of this country. If you take away incarcerated black males that number goes down to six to seven percent. So in reality the black vote really isn't worth fighting for for the Republican Party.

I'm sorry but I can't let this slide. I had to even edit my post from earlier.

Although I do agree that the Latino vote is far more appealing to them now because of their booming population, black male incarceration does not account for the more than 5% drop in potential voters amongst the black community.

Where the hell you get those numbers from?

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-legislator-criticized-for-nba-tweet/

MINNEAPOLIS - A Minnesota legislator's tweet about the NBA has prompted hundreds of responses, with many on social media calling it racist. The legislator later apologized after an outcry.

State Rep. Pat Garofalo sent a tweet Sunday that read: "Let's be honest, 70 percent of teams in NBA could fold tomorrow + nobody would notice a difference w/ possible exception of increase in streetcrime."

The Star Tribune reports that when asked about the tweet, the Farmington Republican initially said he was "talking about NBA's high arrest rate and that they are the only major pro league that testing positive for marijuana is not a substance abuse violation."

Garofalo added: "No intent beyond that."

Within two hours of his tweet, more than 600 people retweeted it and hundreds more responded. Many called the comment he made in the tweet racist.


Garofalo initially stuck by his words and said they were misinterpreted as racist. But late Monday morning, he put out a statement of apology.

Garofalo says the NBA has many examples of players and owners who are good role models.
 
Those "truisms" you noted,

"The GOP will never get Black voters," is a truism.
"...they don't want us," is a truism.

I don't think are true at all.
As I said in my OP, the GOP has given up but they do want Black voters, they just don't want to do any work to get us.
An actual test of whether someone wants something is if they are willing to put forth any effort to obtain it. Even though it does make sense to all of you that people are given things for not working, it's not the way the world is supposed to work. Republicans, by your own statement, don't want to do any work. That's a clear indication they don't value the black vote like you think they should. And since they don't value it, "they don't want us." Just like the title of YOUR thread.

In local politics, Republicans do get Black voters whenever they choose to compete. George Bush actually increased his numbers from 2000 to 2004. Mike Huckabee had sizable Black support in Arkansas. Pat McCrory had a good number of Black voters in NC due to his being a harmless, feckless mayor of Charlotte.
But the outreach they say they need somehow gets lost in their rush to pass anti-voting laws (what did Condi have to say about that?).
Another truism is the bigger the sample size, the more accurate it represents the population you're sampling.

60% turnout of 25-30 million black adults voting 95% one way is a much better indication of black values than any random town voting whether they can trust their trash will be picked up on time or snow will get plowed.

Black voters are extremely satisfied with Democratic policies, hence, "the GOP will never get Black voters." They've shown what they want. Citing Bush's gain of 9 % to 11% of the black vote is a waste since it represents an 80 point deficit from a typical Democrat's worse showing.

When it comes to the black vote, only the margin of error is in play. The actual dynamic is well established and embraced by all sides.

I just don't get the constant complaining about it.
 
An actual test of whether someone wants something is if they are willing to put forth any effort to obtain it. Even though it does make sense to all of you that people are given things for not working, it's not the way the world is supposed to work. Republicans, by your own statement, don't want to do any work. That's a clear indication they don't value the black vote like you think they should. And since they don't value it, "they don't want us." Just like the title of YOUR thread.


Another truism is the bigger the sample size, the more accurate it represents the population you're sampling.

60% turnout of 25-30 million black adults voting 95% one way is a much better indication of black values than any random town voting whether they can trust their trash will be picked up on time or snow will get plowed.

Black voters are extremely satisfied with Democratic policies, hence, "the GOP will never get Black voters." They've shown what they want. Citing Bush's gain of 9 % to 11% of the black vote is a waste since it represents an 80 point deficit from a typical Democrat's worse showing.

When it comes to the black vote, only the margin of error is in play. The actual dynamic is well established and embraced by all sides.

I just don't get the constant complaining about it.


Fine.

Now will you please stop saying you want to reach-out to black voters, that you want inclusion of black voters, etc.


 


Fine.

Now will you please stop saying you want to reach-out to black voters, that you want inclusion of black voters, etc.



"The GOP will never get Black voters," is a truism.
"...they don't want us," is a truism.

And yet,

is still a concern.

95% of black people: The GOP just want to put y'all back in chains. Black Republicans are just sellouts that want to put black people back in slavery and bring back Jim Crow while taking away your right to vote.

GOP: There is no way in hell the 95%-5% ratio is going to change, and we don't care about them anyway. Let's go after hispanics.

95% of black people: GOP is racist.
Just saying.
 
Just saying.

source: Think Progress

WATCH: Black Constituent Confronts Paul Ryan Over ‘Inner City’ Remarks


RACINE, Wisconsin — If you could pinpoint the moment when Paul Ryan lost control of his message on Wednesday, it was when he began explaining to an African American constituent why his recent comments about lazy “inner city” men actually had nothing to do with race.

“You said what you meant,” Alfonso Gardner, a 61-year-old African American man from Racine, told Ryan at a town hall meeting. “[Inner city is] a code word for black.”

Ryan remained defiant though. “There is nothing whatsoever about race in my comments at all,” he said. He admonished Gardner for drawing a connection between his “inner city” remarks and race. “I think when we throw these charges around, it should be based on something.”

Watch it:

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ThinkProgress spoke with Gardner after the town hall to get his reaction. He said Ryan’s trying to have it both ways, saying different things to different people. “He’s out here shucking and jiving,” Gardner said. “He’s been in Congress eight terms and just now talking about poverty?”

Gardner isn’t the only constituent taking offense. ThinkProgress interviewed a number of Racine residents this week about Ryan’s statement. They were not amused with their congressman’s words.
 
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