The Financialization Of The American Society

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source: The Paula Gordon Show

Money, Empire & Collapse

Prior to the current crisis, the financial sector of America's economy accounted for more that 20% of GDP and 40% of profits ... an historical prescription for decline and disaster.


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<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">The United States’ whole economy is now dominated by finance and that is a huge mistake</SPAN>, says Kevin Phillips. He’s one of the nation’s premier economic and political analysts, who bases his deep concern for the country’s future on his careful study of failed empires. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">While the financial sector has quietly taken over the economy</SPAN>, he says, the American electorate has tolerated politicians who have no sense of what America's changing role must be.

“Finance is the biggest thing in the (American) economy, while we pretend there’s another real economy. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Finance has 20 to 21% of gross domestic product (GDP). Manufacturing is down to 12%. There is no historic example of a great power that has let itself financialize, where manufacturing has been subordinated, that has come back from it</SPAN>.

“Now America has taken a huge black eye in the financial world, on top of the very well deserved black eye in Iraq which basically wound up quintupling the price of oil. We've got housing prices collapsing, we've got debt building up like never before. We've got oil going over the moon, and the dollar committing currency suicide. The crisis cannot be addressed without understanding how big finance has become.

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">“Essentially finance has run amok. We have to worry because you can’t have 20 to 21 percent of the GDP implode without paying a huge price. Manufacturing was something that spread prosperity. It took a large part of the American work force and made them blue collar and middle class. Very few people make a better living out of finance. (Wall Street) is really the group that’s profiting. Enormously.”</SPAN>

Mr. Phillips outlines many of the ingredients that have allowed finance’s rise. In addition to credit cards, crazy financial instruments, exotic mortgages, he blames bad numbers.

“Economic statistics are misleading Americans. Those statistics are starting NOT to mislead people overseas who are selling the dollar because they can't believe American statistics. We may actually have negative GDP growth. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">The Bush Administration (reportedly) cooked the unemployment numbers. The Consumer Price Index (CPI) was redefined in the late seventies and early eighties</SPAN>. We probably have 6 to 9 percent inflation. (Suppressed statistics) made a good part of the housing bubble possible, the bubble for which we’re now paying such a huge price. And some say the Social Security of a person who retired back in the 80's might actually be about 50% higher now if there had been legit, fully straightforward numbers.”

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">He points fingers at Democrats and Republicans alike, as well as the American people. </SPAN>

“The Republicans were in power during the ‘80s when you had the first wave of financial bailouts. (The Democrats) were involved in three or four bailouts. Bill Clinton and financial Democrats were very much involved in deregulation, doing away with Glass-Stegall and credit card regulation. Then the Republicans came back with George W. Bush and it was more of the same. Right at the heart of it, politicians don't want to make any decisions, much less the hard ones.

“There's no record of politicians being able to grapple with this and turn it around. I guess I've reached the point where I think all you can do is try to mitigate it and hope that the transition process is perhaps less painful than usual. And that when we come out at the end of the non-imperial tunnel, things are better.”
 
The Federal Reserve is playing the Dems And Repubs like puppets. All these stories can be summed up the same way. The only way to affect change is to fight the Fed Res. Whatcha gon' do?

Economist John Williams has a site the breaks down Government Reports. http://www.shadowstats.com/article/consumer_price_index

Inflation, as reported by the Consumer Price Index (CPI) is understated by roughly 7% per year. This is due to recent redefinitions of the series as well as to flawed methodologies, particularly adjustments to price measures for quality changes. The concentration of this installment on the quality of government economic reports will be first on CPI series redefinition and the damages done to those dependent on accurate cost-of-living estimates, and on pending further redefinition and economic damage.

The CPI was designed to help businesses, individuals and the government adjust their financial planning and considerations for the impact of inflation. The CPI worked reasonably well for those purposes into the early-1980s. In recent decades, however, the reporting system increasingly succumbed to pressures from miscreant politicians, who were and are intent upon stealing income from social security recipients, without ever taking the issue of reduced entitlement payments before the public or Congress for approval.

In particular, changes made in CPI methodology during the Clinton Administration understated inflation significantly, and, through a cumulative effect with earlier changes that began in the late-Carter and early Reagan Administrations have reduced current social security payments by roughly half from where they would have been otherwise. That means Social Security checks today would be about double had the various changes not been made. In like manner, anyone involved in commerce, who relies on receiving payments adjusted for the CPI, has been similarly damaged. On the other side, if you are making payments based on the CPI (i.e., the federal government), you are making out like a bandit.
 
Fuck it...bring back Greenspan!!!!

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source: The Paula Gordon Show

Money, Empire & Collapse

Prior to the current crisis, the financial sector of America's economy accounted for more that 20% of GDP and 40% of profits ... an historical prescription for decline and disaster.


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<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">The United States’ whole economy is now dominated by finance and that is a huge mistake</SPAN>, says Kevin Phillips. He’s one of the nation’s premier economic and political analysts, who bases his deep concern for the country’s future on his careful study of failed empires. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">While the financial sector has quietly taken over the economy</SPAN>, he says, the American electorate has tolerated politicians who have no sense of what America's changing role must be.

“Finance is the biggest thing in the (American) economy, while we pretend there’s another real economy. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Finance has 20 to 21% of gross domestic product (GDP). Manufacturing is down to 12%. There is no historic example of a great power that has let itself financialize, where manufacturing has been subordinated, that has come back from it</SPAN>.

“Now America has taken a huge black eye in the financial world, on top of the very well deserved black eye in Iraq which basically wound up quintupling the price of oil. We've got housing prices collapsing, we've got debt building up like never before. We've got oil going over the moon, and the dollar committing currency suicide. The crisis cannot be addressed without understanding how big finance has become.

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">“Essentially finance has run amok. We have to worry because you can’t have 20 to 21 percent of the GDP implode without paying a huge price. Manufacturing was something that spread prosperity. It took a large part of the American work force and made them blue collar and middle class. Very few people make a better living out of finance. (Wall Street) is really the group that’s profiting. Enormously.”</SPAN>

Mr. Phillips outlines many of the ingredients that have allowed finance’s rise. In addition to credit cards, crazy financial instruments, exotic mortgages, he blames bad numbers.

“Economic statistics are misleading Americans. Those statistics are starting NOT to mislead people overseas who are selling the dollar because they can't believe American statistics. We may actually have negative GDP growth. <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">The Bush Administration (reportedly) cooked the unemployment numbers. The Consumer Price Index (CPI) was redefined in the late seventies and early eighties</SPAN>. We probably have 6 to 9 percent inflation. (Suppressed statistics) made a good part of the housing bubble possible, the bubble for which we’re now paying such a huge price. And some say the Social Security of a person who retired back in the 80's might actually be about 50% higher now if there had been legit, fully straightforward numbers.”

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">He points fingers at Democrats and Republicans alike, as well as the American people. </SPAN>

“The Republicans were in power during the ‘80s when you had the first wave of financial bailouts. (The Democrats) were involved in three or four bailouts. Bill Clinton and financial Democrats were very much involved in deregulation, doing away with Glass-Stegall and credit card regulation. Then the Republicans came back with George W. Bush and it was more of the same. Right at the heart of it, politicians don't want to make any decisions, much less the hard ones.

“There's no record of politicians being able to grapple with this and turn it around. I guess I've reached the point where I think all you can do is try to mitigate it and hope that the transition process is perhaps less painful than usual. And that when we come out at the end of the non-imperial tunnel, things are better.”

Kevin Phillips is the man. David Johnston and Kevin Phillips shut down alot of the Anarchy Free Marketeers. The Crux of our crisis is not concentrating on manufacturing. Digital Monopoly will only get us so far. Sooner or later we have to create something of value. The age of unregulated Wall Street has put America in intensive care with injuries varyng from punctured lung,broken back,bruised kidney,broken arm,broken leg and so forth.

And for anyone who thinks the course we are on right now as a country when it comes to Finance. Listen to the finance "get rich like me" gurus prescription for this country. It's insanity.
 
How do you expect to be taken seriously when this is what you post?

You need to visit this board more offend. He is full of gems. I haven’t determined 100% yet is he that ignorant or he just doesn’t give a fuck.
 
Kevin Phillips is the man. David Johnston and Kevin Phillips shut down alot of the Anarchy Free Marketeers. The Crux of our crisis is not concentrating on manufacturing. Digital Monopoly will only get us so far. Sooner or later we have to create something of value. The age of unregulated Wall Street has put America in intensive care with injuries varyng from punctured lung,broken back,bruised kidney,broken arm,broken leg and so forth.

And for anyone who thinks the course we are on right now as a country when it comes to Finance. Listen to the finance "get rich like me" gurus prescription for this country. It's insanity.

I can't get some to realize this. They think the government is inherently evil. They can't understand that it’s the monied corporate elite that are the true power corrupting our government.
 
They think the government is inherently evil.

no, the govt. is not evil, they're just not efficient. The govt can't even enforce the laws on the books now, let alone trying to create more regulation.

"UPS & FedEx are doing fine, it's the Post Office that's always having problems" - Barack Obama

Those that have the power to create "money" out of thin air have corrupted govt, identify the problem Thought!
 
I can't get some to realize this. They think the government is inherently evil. They can't understand that it’s the monied corporate elite that are the true power corrupting our government.

The worst thing that deniers dont realize? CORPORATIONS want to be the whole aspect of GOVT times 1000 with the magnification, minus the compassion. Corporate America wants to overthrow everything. And then what? Are we still going to have people on message boards toting their majestic righteousness? Most people are so foolishly led to their entrapment.

Remember what Naomi Klein said? She was laughed at for her kooky theory of disaster capitalism. But the real question is: What can a country manufacture if it's manufacturing base is dwindling? Disasters, and for a price it can create disaster after disaster to make money for the very few. Of course we still have some hard core Free Market fundamentalists holding on.

Folks, this isnt the free market. When you have no rules you are in dangerous area for a empire. Of course most people who follow corporate dogma base it on faith. And I know some people are thinking, "But what about Government, isnt that faith" Everything to a degree is faith when it comes to living. The sober truth is, without Govt you won't have a country for long. Don't listen to these batshit crazy addicted Greed Junkies in the media. Their irrational behaviour is plummeting our country into a abyss of financial quagmires (Pun intended :lol:) unprecedented in this country
 
Part of the problem is misguided economic theories used to foster free trade between countries.

It has been theorized that specialization by countries in certain industries and resulting trade leads to greater economic growth for both; however, the lack of diversification in both economies will significantly decrease growth in both countries when a downturn inevitably occurs in one country. Country A will be unable to buy the products of Country B when their economy tanks.

You can see this in countries that specialize in oil for weatlh, prices crash and their economy tanks and their ability to trade with other countries diminishes significantly.

It is better to have diversified industries in both countries to to limit economic declines We need to manufacture some goods in this country instead of sending those jobs to China, and find some way to develop energy resources. Getting all of our wealth from the financial services industry and other white-collar jobs is a recipe for disaster.

:smh::smh:
 
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