The (fake) Wille Lynch letter....

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" Gentlemen:

I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our lord, one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First , I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the of the colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me in my modest plantation in the West Indies where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest method for control of slaves. Ancient Rome would envy us if my program is implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious KING JAMES, whose BIBLE we CHERISH, I saw enough to know that our problem is not unique. While Rome used cords or wood as crosses for standing human bodies along the old highways in great numbers, you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.

I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are losing valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed, Gentleman,...You know what your problems are; I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them.

In my bag, I have a fool proof method for controlling your slaves. I guarantee everyone of you that if installed it will control the slaves for at least three hundred years. My method is simple, any member of your family or any OVERSEER can use it.

I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves, and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use FEAR, DISTRUST, and ENVY for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies, and it will work throughout the SOUTH. Take this simple little list of differences and think about them. On the top of my list is "AGE" but it is only there because it starts with an "A"; The second is"COLOR" or shade; there is INTELLIGENCE, SIZE, SEX, SIZE OF PLANTATION, ATTITUDE of owner, whether the slaves live in the valley, on a hill, east or west, north, south, have fine or coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences, I shall give you an outline of action- but before that, I shall assure you that DISTRUST IS STRONGER THAN TRUST, AND ENVY IS STRONGER THAN ADULATION, RESPECT OR ADMIRATION.

The black slave, after receiving this indoctrination, shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands.

Don't forget you must pitch the old black VS. the young black males, and the young black male against the old black male. You must use the dark skinned slaves VS. the light skin slaves. You must use the female VS the male, and the male VS, the female. You must always have your servants and OVERSEERS distrust all blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us.

Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control, use them. Never miss an opportunity. My plan is guaranteed, and the good thing about this plan is that if used intensely for one year the slave will remain perpetually distrustful."

-WILLIAM LYNCH-1772

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This letter has been the focus of many a speech concerning the state of Black America, and as on point as it seems it is actually nothing more than propaganda obviously created by a person concerned with the state of Black America and also one who knew that Black people would take something like this and run with it....

This is a site that goes into the fruadulent nature of the letter:

www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/question/may04.htm

This page is a Q&A session between a young women who asks if the letter is real and an answer to that question by a history professor at Spelman College.

According to the professor, a few points to consider are:

(1.) Considering the content of the letter and when it was written(1712), why was the letter only "discovered" on the internet(circa 1993 as a chain letter) instead of being the career-making find that it would have been had it gone through the proper channels...?

(2.) The usage of words that did not have the definition as was used. The word "program", as Lynch used it, did not enter the English language until 1837. Contrast that to the letter being written in 1712. The word "outline", being an artistic term meaning "sketch" at the time the letter was written, was also not used correctly in the time frame given.

There are other instances on the page that point to the letter being a fake, but I leave the link for your perusal....

Should the letter be dismissed as trash?

Yes and no....

Yes, because it's creation is based on a lie....

No, because as fraudulent as it is it does contain truths that many of us hold to be evident.

 

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Thanks for posting this, but we have already debuked this document here. Post it on the main board, and watch how the village idiots defend it. I had a couple of good exchanges over it. Peace.
 

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Fuckallyall said:
Thanks for posting this, but we have already debuked this document here. Post it on the main board, and watch how the village idiots defend it. I had a couple of good exchanges over it. Peace.
LOL.

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yea...wille lynch is def a fake but check this out this the Khaleej times an arabic paper....this is pure Cy-ops bush propoganda


Khaleej Times Online >> News >> SUBCONTINENT

‘President George W. Bush’ poem withdrawn from textbook
From our correspondent

5 December 2005


ISLAMABAD — The Federal of Education has excised a poem from a new English textbook for intermediate classes that enumerated qualities of an ideal leader that could have been attributed to US President George Bush.

Written by an anonymous poet, each verse of the poem has an opening letter which when put together in descending order read PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH.

Fearing a public backlash, the Ministry of Education has directed the Federal Board authorities to immediately withdraw the poem from the book.

“We have decided to delete the poem from the book, published by the National Book Foundation (NBF) and prescribed for the Federal Board students of intermediate,” a visibly embarrassed official of the federal education ministry said here.

“It will be stretching the matter too far — to assert that the poem was inserted in the book deliberately to project the American president,” he said. The official said the concerned wing of the ministry is probing the lapse. According to rules, all text books are vetted for nearly a year by several committees before publication. “That they failed to detect the possible mischief is a matter for concern,” he said.

He wondered why the identity of the writer had not been revealed, admitting that examiners of papers always appreciate the names of authors in the answers written by candidates appearing in different examinations. The official said the poem would not appear in the next edition of the book. He ruled out of question eulogising Bush in textbooks irrespective of US funding to transform the curriculum to fit into the enlightened moderation strategy of President General Pervez Musharraf.

The book was printed in 2004 for the first time after the government decided to deregulate publication of textbooks. It was prescribed for the first year students of the Federal Board in 2005.

The Leader by “Anonymous” appearing on page 226 of the book, with its editors being Muhammad Aslam Gondal and M.H. Hamdani, reads:

Patient and steady with all he must bear,

Ready to accept every challenge with care,

Easy in manner, yet solid as steel,

Strong in his faith, refreshingly real,

Isn't afraid to propose what is bold,

Doesn't conform to the usual mold,

Eyes that have foresight, for hindsight won't do,

Never back down when he sees what is true,

Tells it all straight, and means it all too,

Going forward and knowing he's right,

Even when doubted for why he would fight.

Over and over he makes his case clear,

Reaching to touch the ones who won't hear.

Growing in strength, he won't be unnerved,

Ever assuring he'll stand by his word.

Wanting the world to join his firm stand,

Bracing for war, but praying for peace,

Using his power so evil will cease:

So much a leader and worthy of trust,

Here stands a man who will do what he must.

(The first letter of each line when put together reads: President George W. Bush)
 

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You should have made that point in the other thread, unless, however, you want to show how the two are interconnected.

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You should have made that point in the other thread, unless, however, you want to show how the two are interconnected.

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I posted this in the Willie Lynch thread on the main board. Thought it might invoke a little more discussion on this board...

If the letter was written 10 years ago, making it appear "real" wouldn't be too hard to do. Just run down a list of current problems and date it 285 years ealier than it was actually written. I'm not digging the whole concept of the "White Superman" controlling our minds for 300 years from the grave. Gives way too much weight and power to a single white man. I'd rather think there was a systematic struggle between two entire races than to accept that some single white man was the architect.

You want to know one of the major contributing factors to the issues in our community? It was the systematic murder of every leader that even attempted to unify us for 2 decades. My father is older than King and X and he's alive, of a clear mind and kicking, those cats had the potential to do massive things and they were snuffed out young to assure those massive things never came to fruition. And it wasn't just King and X, do your homework and the list of bright young charismatic BLACK leaders that died prematurely and of UNnatural causes is longer than you would probably assume it to be. The Civil Rights movement literally went out in a hail of gunfire and a lot of us don't seem to be aware it happened. Why is it folks can believe Willy Lynch was real, but can't believe that all those murders/ assasinations were more than just a coincidence? Those murders got us so SHOOK as a people that ever since then, we go out of our way to dicredit and demonize EVERY leader or organization that even attempts to advocate for us. You want to talk Willie Lynch, there is your Willie Lynch (down the barrel of a rifle behind a bar in Atlanta, in the hands of two "agents" in a ballroom in Harlem, hiding in the bushes at the end of Medgar's driveway, in a bloody mattress in Fred Hampton's apartment).

Willie Lynch points out faults and offers no solutions. Don't we have MORE than enough of that already. But then again, we've been shown what happens to cats that offer REAL solutions.

BANG! BANG!

Anyway, check this out...

The REAL story from folks who were REALLY there:

Official Website for the Africans in America Documentary

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And Gullah Jack posted this info that pretty much debunks the letter and gives a good explanation as to why the legend of the letter is counter productive. A lot of cats seem to believe that it doesn't matter if it's real or not, I tend to disagree...

DEATH OF THE WILLIE LYNCH SPEECH
by Prof. Manu Ampim


Since 1995 there has been much attention given to a speech claimed to be delivered by a "William Lynch" in 1712. This speech has been promoted widely throughout African American and Black British circles. It is re-printed on numerous websites, discussed in chat rooms, forwarded as a "did you know" email to friends and family members, assigned as required readings in college and high school courses, promoted at conferences, and there are several books published with the title of "Willie Lynch."[1] In addition, new terminology called the "Willie Lynch Syndrome" has been devised to explain the psychological problems and the disunity among Black people.

Further, it is naively assumed by a large number of Willie Lynch believers that this single and isolated speech, allegedly given almost 300 years ago, completely explains the internal problems and divisions within the African American community. They assume that the "Willie Lynch Syndrome" explains Black disunity and the psychological trauma of slavery. While some have questioned and even dismissed this speech from the outset, it is fair to say that most African Americans who are aware of the speech have not questioned its authenticity, and assume it to be a legitimate and very crucial historical document which explains what has happened to African Americans.

However, when we examine the details of the "Willie Lynch Speech" and its assumed influence, then it becomes clear that the belief in its authenticity and widespread adoption during the slavery era is nothing more than a modern myth. In this brief examination, I will show that the only known "William Lynch" was born three decades after the alleged speech, that the only known "William Lynch" did not own a plantation in the West Indies, that the "speech" was not mentioned by anyone in the 18th or 19th centuries, and that the "speech" itself clearly indicates that it was composed in the late 20th century.

SILENCE ON LYNCH SPEECH

The "Willie Lynch Speech" is not mentioned by any 18th or 19th century slavemasters or anti-slavery activists. There is a large body of written materials from the slavery era, yet there is not one reference to a William Lynch speech given in 1712. This is very curious because both free and enslaved African Americans wrote and spoke about the tactics and practices of white slavemasters. Frederick Douglass, Nat Turner, Olaudah Equino, David Walker, Maria Stewart, Martin Delaney, Henry Highland Garnet, Richard Allen, Absolom Jones, Frances Harper, William Wells Brown, and Robert Purvis were African Americans who initiated various efforts to rise up against the slave system, yet none cited the alleged Lynch speech. Also, there is also not a single reference to the Lynch speech by any white abolitionists, including John Brown, William Lloyd Garrison, and Wendell Phillips. Similarly, there has been no evidence found of slavemasters or pro-slavery advocates referring to (not to mention utilizing) the specific divide and rule information given in the Lynch speech.

Likewise, none of the most credible historians on the enslavement of African Americans have ever mentioned the Lynch speech in any of their writings. A reference to the Lynch speech and its alleged divide and rule tactics are completely missing in the works of Benjamin Quarles, John Hope Franklin, John Henrik Clarke, William E.B. Du Bois, Herbert Aptheker, Kenneth Stampp, John Blassingame, Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, Darlene Clark-Hine, and Lerone Bennett. These authors have studied the details and dynamics of Black social life and relations during slavery, as well as the "machinery of control" by the slavemasters, yet none made a single reference to a Lynch speech.

Since the Willie Lynch speech was not mentioned by any slavemasters, pro-slavery advocates, abolitionists, or historians studying the slavery era, the question of course is when did it appear?

FIRST REFERENCE TO LYNCH SPEECH

The first reference to the Willie Lynch speech was in a late 1993 on-line listing of sources, posted by Anne Taylor, who was then the reference librarian at the University of Missouri at St. Louis (UMSL).[2] She posted ten sources to the UMSL library database and the Lynch speech was the last item in the listing. Taylor in her 1995 email exchanges with the late Dr. William Piersen (Professor of History, Fisk University) and others interested in the origin of the Lynch speech indicated that she keep the source from where she received the speech anonymous upon request, because he was unable to establish the authenticity of the document. On October 31, 2005, Taylor wrote:

"Enough butt-covering, now it's time to talk about where I got it. The publisher who gave me this [speech] wanted to remain anonymous...because he couldn't trace it, either, and until now I've honored his wishes. It was printed in a local, widely-distributed, free publication called The St. Louis Black Pages, 9th anniversary edition, 1994*, page 8."

[*Taylor notes: "At risk of talking down to you, it's not unusual for printed materials to be 'post-dated' - the 1994 edition came out in 1993].[3]

The Lynch speech was distributed in the Black community in 1993 and 1994, and in fact I came across it during this time period, but as an historian trained in Africana Studies and primary research I never took it serious. I simply read it and put it in a file somewhere.

However, the Lynch speech was popularized at the Million Man March (held in Washington, DC) on October 16, 1995, when it was referred to by Min. Louis Farrakhan. He stated:

We, as a people who have been fractured, divided and destroyed because of our division, now must move toward a perfect union. Let's look at a speech, delivered by a white slave holder on the banks of the James River in 1712... Listen to what he said. He said, 'In my bag, I have a foolproof method of controlling Black slaves. I guarantee everyone of you, if installed correctly, it will control the slaves for at least 300 years'...So spoke Willie Lynch 283 years ago."

The 1995 Million Man March was broadcast live on C-Span television and thus millions of people throughout the U.S. and the world heard about the alleged Willie Lynch speech for the first time. Now, ten years later, the speech has become extremely popular, although many historians and critical thinkers questioned this strange and unique document from the outset.

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Full Text of the alleged Willie Lynch Speech, 1712:


"Gentlemen, I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with slaves. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest methods of control of slaves.

Ancient Rome would envy us if my program were implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish. I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of woods as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.

I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are not only losing a valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed.

Gentlemen, you know what your problems are: I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves. I guarantee everyone of you that if installed correctly it will control the slaves for at least 300 hundred years [sic]. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it.

I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences, and think about them.

On top of my list is 'Age', but it is there only because it starts with an 'A': the second is 'Color' or shade, there is intelligence, size, sex, size of plantations, status on plantation, attitude of owners, whether the slave live in the valley, on hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences. I shall give you an outline of action-but before that I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy is stronger than adulation, respect, or admiration.

The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don't forget you must pitch the old Black male vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your white servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us.

Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. If used intensely for one year, the slaves themselves will remain perpetually distrustful. Thank you, gentlemen."
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WHO WAS WILLIE LYNCH ?

The only known "William Lynch" who could have authorized a 1712 speech in Virginia was born 30 years after the alleged speech was given. The only known "William Lynch" lived from 1742-1820 and was from Pittsylvania, Virginia. It is obvious that "William Lynch" could not have authored a document 30 years before he was born! This "William Lynch" never owned a plantation in the West Indies, and he did not own a slave plantation in Virginia.

DIVIDE & RULE TACTICS

The Lynch speech lists a number of divide and rule tactics that were not important concerns to slaveholders in the early 1700s, and they certainly were not adopted. The anonymous writer of the Lynch speech states, "I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger." Here is the list provided in the Lynch speech: age, color, intelligence, fine hair vs. coarse hair, tall vs. short, male vs. female.

However, none of these "tactics" were concerns to slaveholders in the early 1700s in the West Indies or colonial America. No credible historian has indicated that any of the items on the Lynch list were a part of a divide and rule strategy in any early 18th century. These are current 20th century divisions and concerns. Here are the Lynch speech tactics versus the real divide and rule tactics that were actually used in the early 18th century:


DIVIDE & RULE TACTICS



LYNCH SPEECH vs. HISTORICAL FACTS



Age Ethnic origin & language

Color (light vs. dark skin) African born vs. American born

Intelligence Occupation (house vs. field slave)

Fine hair vs. coarse hair Reward system for "good" behavior

Tall vs. short Class status

Male vs. female Outlawed social gatherings



It is certain that "Willie Lynch" did not use his divide and rule tactics on his "modest plantation in the West Indies."


20th CENTURY TERMS IN LYNCH SPEECH

There are a number of terms in the alleged 1712 Lynch speech that are undoubtedly anachronisms (i.e. words that are out of their proper historical time period). Here are a few of the words in the speech that were not used until the 20th century:

Lynch speech: "In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves."

Anachronisms: "Fool proof" and "Black" with an upper-case "B" to refer to people of African descent are of 20th century origin. Capitalizing "Black" did not become a standard from of writing until the late 1960s.

Lynch speech: "The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years."

Anachronism: "Re-fueling" is a 20th century term which refers to transportation.

OTHER STRANGE FEATURES

* William Lynch is invited from the "West Indies" (with no specific country indicated) to give only a short eight-paragraph speech. The cost of such a trip would have been considerable, and for the invited speaker to give only general remarks would have been highly unlikely.


* Lynch never thanked the specific host of his speech, he only thanked "the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here." Here, he is rude and shows a lack of etiquette. Also, no specific location for the speech was stated, only that he was speaking "on the bank [sic] of the James River."


* Lynch claims that on his journey to give the speech he saw "a dead slave hanging from a tree." This is highly unlikely because lynching African Americans from trees did not become common until the late 19th century.


* Lynch claims that his method of control will work for "at least 300 hundred years [sic]." First, it has gone unnoticed that the modern writer of the "speech" wrote three hundred twice ("300 hundred years"), which makes no grammatical sense. It should be "300 years" or "three hundred years." Second, the arbitrary choice of 300 years is interesting because it happens to conveniently bring us to the present time.


* Lynch claims that his method of control "will work throughout the South." This statement clearly shows the modern writer's historical ignorance. In 1712, there was no region in the current-day U.S. identified as the "South." The geographical region of the "South" did not become distinct until a century after the alleged speech. Before the American Revolutionary War vs. Britain (1775-1783) the 13 original U.S. colonies were all slaveholding regions, and most of these colonies were in what later became the North, not the "South." In fact, the region with the second largest slave population during the time of the alleged William Lynch speech was the northern city of New York, where there were a significant number of slave revolts.


* Lynch fails to give "an outline of action" for control as he promised in his speech. He only gives a "simple little list of differences" among "Black slaves."


* Lynch lists his differences by alphabetical order, he states: "On top of my list is 'Age', but it is there only because it starts with an 'A'. " Yet, after the first two differences ("age" and "color"), Lynch's list is anything but alphabetical.


* Lynch spells "color" in the American form instead of the British form ("colour"). We are led to believe that Lynch was a British slaveowner in the "West Indies," yet he does not write in British style.


* Lastly, the name Willie Lynch is interesting, as it may be a simple play on words: "Will Lynch," or "Will he Lynch." This may be a modern psychological game being played on unsuspecting believers?


WHO WROTE THE LYNCH SPEECH?

It is clear that the "Willie Lynch Speech" is a late 20th century invention because of the numerous reasons outlined in this essay. I would advance that the likely candidate for such a superficial speech is an African American male in the 20s-30s age range, who probably minored in Black Studies in college. He had a limited knowledge of 18th century America, but unfortunately he fooled many uncritical Black people.

Some people argue that it doesn't matter if the speech is fact or fiction, because white people did use tactics to divide us. Of course tactics were used but what advocates of this argument don't understand is that African people will not solve our problems and address the real issues confronting us by adopting half-baked urban myths. If there are people who know that the Lynch speech is fictional, yet continue to promote it in order to "wake us up," then we should be very suspicious of these people, who lack integrity and will openly violate trust and willingly lie to our community.

Even if the Willie Lynch mythology were true, the speech is focused on what white slaveholders were doing, and there is no plan, program, or any agenda items for Black people to implement. It is ludicrous to give god-like powers to one white man who allegedly gave a single speech almost 300 years ago, and claim that this is the main reason why Black people have problems among ourselves today! Unfortunately, too often Black people would rather believe a simple and convenient myth, rather than spend the time studying and understanding a situation. Too many of our people want a one-page, simplified Ripley's Believe or Not explanation of "what happened."

WILLIE LYNCH DISTRACTION

While we are distracted by the Willie Lynch urban mythology, the real issues go ignored. There are a number of authentic first-hand written accounts by enslaved Africans, who wrote specifically about the slave conditions and the slavemasters' system of control. For example, writers such as Olaudah Equiano, Mahommah Baquaqua, and Frederick Douglass wrote penetrating accounts about the tactics of slave control.

Frederick Douglass, for instance, wrote in his autobiography, Narrative of the life of Frederick Douglass, that one of the most diabolical tactics of the American slaveholders was to force the slave workers during their six days off for the Christmas holiday to drink themselves into a drunken stupor and forget about the pain of slavery. Douglass wrote, "It was deemed a disgrace not to get drunk at Christmas; and he was regarded as lazy indeed, who had not provided himself with the necessary means, during the year, to get whiskey enough to last him through Christmas. From what I know of the effects of these holidays upon the slave, I believe them to be the most effective means in the hands of the slaveholder in keeping down the spirit of insurrection. Where the slaveholders at once to abandon this practice, I have not the slightest doubt it would lead to an immediate insurrection among the slaves.... The holidays are part and parcel of the gross fraud, wrong, and inhumanity of slavery."[4]

Also, many nineteenth century Black writers discussed the specific tactics of the white slaveowners and how they used Christianity to teach the enslaved Africans how to be docile and accept their slave status. The problem with African American and Black British revelry during the Christmas holidays and the blind acceptance of the master's version of Christianity are no doubt major issues among Black people today. It is certain that both of these problems were initiated and perpetuated during slavery, and they require our immediate attention.

Many people who embrace the Willie Lynch myth have not studied the period of slavery, and have not read the major works or first-hand documents on this issue of African American slavery. As indicated above, this fictional speech is amazingly used as required reading by some college instructors. Kenneth Stampp in his important work on slavery in the American South, The Peculiar Institution (1956), uses the historical records to outline the 5 rules for making a slave:

1. Maintain strict discipline.
2. Instill belief of personal inferiority.
3. Develop awe of master's power ( instill fear).
4. Accept master's standards of "good conduct."
5. Develop a habit of perfect dependence.[5]


Primary (first-hand) research is the most effective weapon against the distortion of African history and culture. Primary research training is the best defense against urban legends and modern myths. It is now time for critical thinkers to bury the decade-old mythology of "William Lynch."

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NOTES


1. For example, see: Lawanda Staten, How to Kill Your Willie Lynch (1997); Kashif Malik Hassan-el, The Willie Lynch Letter and the Making of a Slave (1999); Marc Sims, Willie Lynch: Why African-Americans Have So Many Issues! (2002); Alvin Morrow, Breaking the Curse of Willie Lynch (2003); and Slave Chronicles, The Willie Lynch Letter and the Destruction of Black Unity (2004).

2. See: http://www.umsl.edu/services/librar...ies/narrate.htm

3. For this quote and the general Anne Taylor email exchanges regarding the authenticity of the Willie Lynch speech, see: http://www.umsl.edu/services/librar...ies/winbail.htm


4. Frederick Douglass, Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass (1845), p. 84.


5. Kenneth Stampp, The Peculiar Institution: Slavery in the Ante-Bellum South (1956), pp. 144-48.

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*Prof. Manu Ampim is an Historian and Primary (first-hand) Researcher specializing in African & African American history and culture. He is also a professor of Africana Studies. He can be reached at:

PO Box 18623, Oakland, CA (USA). Tel. 510-482-5791. Email: Profmanu@acninc.net.
 

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Great post Zero. I'll come back to this after HNIC does the "Tune Up"

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And Gullah Jack posted this info that pretty much debunks the letter and gives a good explanation as to why the legend of the letter is counter productive. A lot of cats seem to believe that it doesn't matter if it's real or not, I tend to disagree...

Unfortunately...it this only pleases minds such as yourself. For those who have done real research and not half ass research or purposely would like to mislead/cover up things this would apply.

1) their first mistake in debunking this is everyone keeps saying that it appeared on the internet in the early 90s (1993).

Well if the talk (word of mouth) of this very letter or speech was circulating in the 70s and 80s...then this so-called debunking has just been debunked.

2) Nowhere in this speech it states that Willie Lynch origins are from America. Although this was suppose to have been a free country (to Whites and Moores). They still got their main authority from England and Spain. It doesn't say that in any book but you find out when you start researching and seeing that most things in America has to get approval from those areas (that's history).

3) Many things are altered to stay covered up...those that know the truth are marked as crazy because the government has the truth hidden and the ones that are trying to make you aware don't have access to that. (Proof of this state...do research on any American find about the government or assasinations or technology and notice that we the people get half or a portion of the truth 30 to 40 years late when it's accidentally or purpose leaked out to divert the people's attention).

4) I use Dr. Ivan Sertima for an example. He came out with a book talking about the African American's heritage and connection to Africa and Africa's history. He then later came out with another book apologizing for the earlier book and statements he's made. He did this because of a new find or discovery proven a few of his earlier finds to be wrong. Of course, I give any man or woman the utmost respect for doing such. I say this (number 4) because many don't realize that you're not going to find everything you're looking for because it's being held from you...you have to know how to look for it in one area to get the answers for what you really want from another area. The direct approach is not always the best because you alert you enemy of what you're trying to do.

5) Some of you who don't really think miss the whole point or big picture...let's look at this for a moment:

"A reference to the Lynch speech and its alleged divide and rule tactics are completely missing in the works of Benjamin Quarles, John Hope Franklin, John Henrik Clarke, William E.B. Du Bois, Herbert Aptheker, Kenneth Stampp, John Blassingame, Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, Darlene Clark-Hine, and Lerone Bennett."

In reality...this should not be a distraction but a very reason for you to look into the above works mentioned.

6) these tactics that are in the letter/speech have existed long before the date of this so-called speech. It's just that so many tactics are in one like Lynch have done real research and experimented his theories himself.

7) And let's look at this from the article you've provided in the link. "Slavery was an incredibly complex set of social, economic and legal relations that literally boiled down to black and white. But given the variation in size of farms, number of enslaved workers, region, crops grown, law, gender-ratios, religion and local economy, it is unlikely that a single letter could explain slave policy for at least 151 years of the institution and its ramifications down to the present day."


If you or anyone believe this then you are not to believe any biblical book because they both fall across the same lines (what's in the bold).

8) This person also stated this "Two paragraphs later he says that he will "give an outline of action," for slave-holders; the word "out-line" had appeared only 50 years earlier and at that time was only used as an artistic term meaning a sketch - it didn't convey its present meaning until 1759. Even more damning is his use of the terms "indoctrination" and "self-refueling" in the next sentence."

Now I say this is half ass research because of this...
Word Origin & History
indoctrinate entered the english language in 1626, meanings are "to teach," from in- "in" + L. doctrina "teaching" (see doctrine).
and outline a compund word used originated in the english language around 1655–65; out- + line 1) meaning the line by which a figure or object is defined or bounded; contour. 2) a drawing or sketch restricted to line without shading or modeling of form. 3) a general sketch, account, or report, indicating only the main features, as of a book, subject, or project: an outline of medieval history; an outline of a speech.

9) "* Lynch claims that his method of control "will work throughout the South." This statement clearly shows the modern writer's historical ignorance. In 1712, there was no region in the current-day U.S. identified as the "South." The geographical region of the "South" did not become distinct until a century after the alleged speech. Before the American Revolutionary War vs. Britain (1775-1783) the 13 original U.S. colonies were all slaveholding regions, and most of these colonies were in what later became the North, not the "South." In fact, the region with the second largest slave population during the time of the alleged William Lynch speech was the northern city of New York, where there were a significant number of slave revolts."

From 1654 until 1865, slavery for life was legal within the boundaries of much of the present United States.[6] Most slaves were black and were held by whites, although some Native Americans and free blacks also held slaves; there was a small number of white slaves as well. The majority of slaveholders were in the southern United States, where most slaves were engaged in an efficient machine-like gang system of agriculture, with farms of fifteen or more slaves proving to be far more productive than farms without slaves.
In the British and French colonies, most immigrants arrived after 1700. They cleared land, built houses and outbuildings, and worked on the large plantations that dominated export agriculture.
And this is a map of the 1700s


10) "* Lynch claims that on his journey to give the speech he saw "a dead slave hanging from a tree." This is highly unlikely because lynching African Americans from trees did not become common until the late 19th century."

It's funny how this was stated when there are stories like this "The Hanging of Angelique: The Untold Story of Canadian Slavery and the Burning of Old Montreal (Race in the Atlantic World, 1700-1900)"
and check this link out http://negroartist.com/SLAVE SALES ...y the Ribs Punishment, Surinam, 1770s_jpg.htm






Notice how I'm debunking the so-called debunk of the letter/speech. Notice the years in which these phrases or words are originated from and pay close attention to the years this person uses in his debunking. Notice the falseness in what was printed (note: this person's debunking is dated 2004...so he had more than enough time to do real research). Please tell me how can William Jelani Cobb, professor of history, from Spelman College make such a poor attempt to debunk this and not do a thorough job?










My question to those who think or who want to think that this is fake would be....if you are so educated and so smart did you know of these tactics said in the speech to ever be used and the affects or results of such tactics? And What have you done or what are you doing to help your people whether in your community or home?

The whole purpose of the awareness of the letter/speech is to wake you up, not for you to use it as a crutch or excuse for why you are not doing. Think of this letter as being Obama, now look at every attempt these people are making to belittle his character and undermind his governing because he's black but notice how none of them would ever say that. Notice how they're trying to make America not like him but remember that none of these attempts or acts took place while Bush was in office.


Before you are so quick to say something is fake or debunked, look at the big picture and the obvious. They can hide or destroy factual evidence but they cannot hide or destroy cause and effect which creates a domino effect of events. I truly urge people to think and stop looking for acceptance or someone to agree with you. You will never learn if you continue to do such.



BTW...I tried contacting Prof. Manu Ampim, Historian and Primary (first-hand) Researcher specializing in African & African American history and culture. At the number listed and it's disconnected.
 
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wutdadeal3

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And Gullah Jack posted this info that pretty much debunks the letter and gives a good explanation as to why the legend of the letter is counter productive. A lot of cats seem to believe that it doesn't matter if it's real or not, I tend to disagree...

Unfortunately...it this only pleases minds such as yourself. For those who have done real research and not half ass research or purposely would like to mislead/cover up things this would apply.

1) their first mistake in debunking this is everyone keeps saying that it appeared on the internet in the early 90s (1993).

Well if the talk (word of mouth) of this very letter or speech was circulating in the 70s and 80s...then this so-called debunking has just been debunked.

2) Nowhere in this speech it states that Willie Lynch origins are from America. Although this was suppose to have been a free country (to Whites and Moores). They still got their main authority from England and Spain. It doesn't say that in any book but you find out when you start researching and seeing that most things in America has to get approval from those areas (that's history).

3) Many things are altered to stay covered up...those that know the truth are marked as crazy because the government has the truth hidden and the ones that are trying to make you aware don't have access to that. (Proof of this state...do research on any American find about the government or assasinations or technology and notice that we the people get half or a portion of the truth 30 to 40 years late when it's accidentally or purpose leaked out to divert the people's attention).

4) I use Dr. Ivan Sertima for an example. He came out with a book talking about the African American's heritage and connection to Africa and Africa's history. He then later came out with another book apologizing for the earlier book and statements he's made. He did this because of a new find or discovery proven a few of his earlier finds to be wrong. Of course, I give any man or woman the utmost respect for doing such. I say this (number 4) because many don't realize that you're not going to find everything you're looking for because it's being held from you...you have to know how to look for it in one area to get the answers for what you really want from another area. The direct approach is not always the best because you alert you enemy of what you're trying to do.

5) Some of you who don't really think miss the whole point or big picture...let's look at this for a moment:

"A reference to the Lynch speech and its alleged divide and rule tactics are completely missing in the works of Benjamin Quarles, John Hope Franklin, John Henrik Clarke, William E.B. Du Bois, Herbert Aptheker, Kenneth Stampp, John Blassingame, Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, Darlene Clark-Hine, and Lerone Bennett."

In reality...this should not be a distraction but a very reason for you to look into the above works mentioned.

6) these tactics that are in the letter/speech have existed long before the date of this so-called speech. It's just that so many tactics are in one like Lynch have done real research and experimented his theories himself.




My question to those who think or who want to think that this is fake would be....if you are so educated and so smart did you know of these tactics said in the speech to ever be used and the affects or results of such tactics? And What have you done or what are you doing to help your people whether in your community or home?

The whole purpose of the awareness of the letter/speech is to wake you up, not for you to use it as a crutch or excuse for why you are not doing. Think of this letter as being Obama, now look at every attempt these people are making to belittle his character and undermind his governing because he's black but notice how none of them would ever say that. Notice how they're trying to make America not look him but remember that none of these attempts or acts took place while Bush was in office.


Before you are so quick to say something is fake or debunked, look at the big picture and the obvious. They can hide or destroy factual evidence but they cannot hide or destroy cause and effect which creates a domino effect of events. I truly urge people to think and stop looking for acceptance or someone to agree with you. You will never learn if you continue to do such.
 

rNubb

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Unfortunately...it this only pleases minds such as yourself. For those who have done real research and not half ass research or purposely would like to mislead/cover up things this would apply.

1) their first mistake in debunking this is everyone keeps saying that it appeared on the internet in the early 90s (1993).

Well if the talk (word of mouth) of this very letter or speech was circulating in the 70s and 80s...then this so-called debunking has just been debunked.

Notice how I'm debunking the so-called debunk of the letter/speech. Notice the years in which these phrases or words are originated from and pay close attention to the years this person uses in his debunking. Notice the falseness in what was printed (note: this person's debunking is dated 2004...so he had more than enough time to do real research). Please tell me how can William Jelani Cobb, professor of history, from Spelman College make such a poor attempt to debunk this and not do a thorough job?

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Thanks a 1000 times.
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