The Democratic Establishment Is Going All Out To Beat Nina Turner

Republicans will win the House and Senate in 2022. A Republican just said he wanted to hit Nancy Pelosi with the speaker gavel. Crickets:smh:

Democrats fight progressives more than Republicans.

Sanders, the Squad, and all things progressive are dead as an influential part of the Democratic Party. Too many losses. Just the facts.

Clyburn is toxic to forward progress in my book. He brings votes, but demands NOTHING in return. But it seems that's what Democrats prefer.

Without progressives, Democrats don't have population power to counter the far right, always voting Republicans, especially in the South.

It's a bad mix for Black people to loose both chambers, the Supreme Court and the right to vote in the South.

With all this infighting.....PLEASE cash up, gets your guns up, this is gonna get ugly for us.
 
Republicans will win the House and Senate in 2022. A Republican just said he wanted to hit Nancy Pelosi with the speaker gavel. Crickets:smh:

Democrats fight progressives more than Republicans.

Sanders, the Squad, and all things progressive are dead as an influential part of the Democratic Party. Too many losses. Just the facts.

Clyburn is toxic to forward progress in my book. He brings votes, but demands NOTHING in return. But it seems that's what Democrats prefer.

Without progressives, Democrats don't have population power to counter the far right, always voting Republicans, especially in the South.

It's a bad mix for Black people to loose both chambers, the Supreme Court and the right to vote in the South.

With all this infighting.....PLEASE cash up, gets your guns up, this is gonna get ugly for us.

And Progressives fight Dems more than they do Democrats. You always leave that out.
 
Republicans will win the House and Senate in 2022. A Republican just said he wanted to hit Nancy Pelosi with the speaker gavel. Crickets:smh:

Democrats fight progressives more than Republicans.

Sanders, the Squad, and all things progressive are dead as an influential part of the Democratic Party. Too many losses. Just the facts.

Clyburn is toxic to forward progress in my book. He brings votes, but demands NOTHING in return. But it seems that's what Democrats prefer.

Without progressives, Democrats don't have population power to counter the far right, always voting Republicans, especially in the South.

It's a bad mix for Black people to loose both chambers, the Supreme Court and the right to vote in the South.

With all this infighting.....PLEASE cash up, gets your guns up, this is gonna get ugly for us.
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And Progressives fight Dems more than they do Democrats. You always leave that out.
As they should. status quo dems are being crushed by far right lunatics while they continue to ignore the base and coddle to right moderates. Progressives are the only ones actually trying to advance the party and not just spin wheels to maintain position.
 
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As they should. status quo dems are being crushed by far right lunatics while they continue to ignore the base and coddle to right moderates. Progressives are the only ones actually trying to advance the party and not just spin wheels to maintain position.

Progressives aren't the base. That's why the keep losing. And they will continue to lose until they realize that they are a minority in the party. I mean how many elections do progressives have to lose before it dawns on them that most people don't agree with them?
 
:lol:If the Cooperate democrats wasn't trying so hard to appease their Cooperate and lobbyist masters. Maybe the progressives wouldn't be fighting them so hard.


And progressives keep catching them Ls lmao. It's not really a fight, it's more like ass whippings.
 
This dude in here defending not writing legislation and at the same time shitting on Dems for not passing the things he wants lmao.

Classic example of progressives. All they do is complain and actually have no clue how shit works.
 
Y'all dumb as fuck. Praising progressives fighting Dems and holding up shit while allowing Republicans to move their agendas forward.
 
Progressives aren't the base. That's why the keep losing. And they will continue to lose until they realize that they are a minority in the party. I mean how many elections do progressives have to lose before it dawns on them that most people don't agree with them?
No Tex. They lose because the establishment comes in a strong arms them out of the race. Lets not rewrite history.. We saw what happened in the primary. And they dusted of Clyburn, and brought him out to dirt nap Nina.
 
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As they should. status quo dems are being crushed by far right lunatics while they continue to ignore the base and coddle to right moderates. Progressives are the only ones actually trying to advance the party and not just spin wheels to maintain position.
But the Democratic party is full of Sound and Fury signifying nothing. Republicans are batshit crazy wild as shit nut jobs but they walk lockstep for the most part even if they're wrong is a motherfuker
 
You progressives love to blame the establishment when your far left candidates lose primaries.

Newsflash: You keep losing because the country and the party is not with the liberal left.
 
All this caping for these progressives and not a single person is explaining why someone paid to write legislation is not writing any.

Meanwhile, Lauren Underwood is writing bills, getting them shits passed, and not making excuses.

Bernie Bros hate when you bring up Underwood cause she is proof that the Squad is useless. Won a district that isn't hugely Dem AND is actually getting shit done.
 
I was pulling for Nina Turner, only to see if she could back up all the shit she been talking. Thought she had it in the bag and it wasn't until late last week that I realized she was in for a fight. Good luck to her and her future.
 
And Progressives fight Dems more than they do Democrats. You always leave that out.

Fight them to give them direction and to keep their election promises but still vote with them to pass shit, unlike the democrats you love like Manchin, Cuellar, Sinema. None of which are progressive but all of which is what will keep the democrats from having anything to run for re-election on and lose the house and senate and white house.
 
• Reauthorize Violence Against Women Act. Incomplete. Biden, who sponsored the 1994 law, vowed to push Congress to reauthorize it. But there’s no clear bipartisan path for doing so.

• Ease union organizing. Incomplete. While Biden threw his support behind an unsuccessful unionization effort by some Amazon workers in March, he has yet to follow through on a promise to create a Cabinet-level working group to promote union organizing and address economic inequality.

Establish police oversight board. Abandoned. Biden decided to scrap this campaign proposal after both sides — civil rights groups and police unions — agreed that it would be counterproductive.

Gun control. Incomplete. Biden has not yet directed the attorney general to propose restructuring the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other agencies to better enforce federal gun laws. Following another spate of mass shootings, Biden called on Congress to enact stricter gun laws. This month he signed executive orders to restrict “ghost guns” — firearms that are assembled at home, don’t have serial numbers and are harder to track — and to make it harder for dangerous people to obtain weapons.

Address systemic racism. Incomplete. On Jan. 26, Biden signed four executive orders addressing racial equity: focusing on discrimination against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, strengthening tribal relations, reinstating an Obama-era anti-housing discrimination rule and ending the Justice Department’s use of private prisons. But as Republican-led states have passed restrictive voting laws, Biden and congressional Democrats have been unable to move ahead with an update to the Voting Rights Act, to allow federal challenges to states’ changes that could disproportionately prevent voters of color from casting ballots. Given Republicans’ opposition, success is likely only if Senate Democrats do away with the chamber’s filibuster rule that sets a 60-vote threshold.
 
Bernie Bros hate when you bring up Underwood cause she is proof that the Squad is useless. Won a district that isn't hugely Dem AND is actually getting shit done.

Hate ? Nobody cares nor does anybody begrudge the 2 things she got passed..I am not a diabetic but the bill is good for those who are.

Now unless you can show that the progressive wing of the democratic party voted against her bills or tried to block them then your whole premise is moot.

Won a district that is hugely white is what you meant and her views on things that affect non-white people are unknown because that doesn't affect her. The only black faces in her AD are her parents.



She is a blue dog with no interest in the policies promoted by progressives.

But if we hate her achievements because she is not progressive then you hated Sen. Michael Bennet who has gotten shit passed and is progressive. Or Cori Bush's pressure regarding the eviction moratorium being extended.
 
Hate ? Nobody cares nor does anybody begrudge the 2 things she got passed..I am not a diabetic but the bill is good for those who are.

Now unless you can show that the progressive wing of the democratic party voted against her bills or tried to block them then your whole premise is moot.

Won a district that is hugely white is what you meant and her views on things that affect non-white people are unknown because that doesn't affect her. The only black faces in her AD are her parents.



She is a blue dog with no interest in the policies promoted by progressives.

But if we hate her achievements because she is not progressive then you hated Sen. Michael Bennet who has gotten shit passed and is progressive. Or Cori Bush's pressure regarding the eviction moratorium being extended.


Won a district that could of gone REPUBLICAN. Congress is razor thin right now and that fact a Black woman did that says a lot. But instead y'all want to tout the squad that win in 30+ Dem districts and get in on the white gentrifiers vote.
 
Won a district that could of gone REPUBLICAN. Congress is razor thin right now and that fact a Black woman did that says a lot. But instead y'all want to tout the squad that win in 30+ Dem districts and get in on the white gentrifiers vote.

Keith Ellison did the same thing in Congress and was a progressive that the establishment worked to keep him from running the DNC.

He left congress and ran for AG in a predominately White state and won . And if it wasn't for him Calvin would have never been tried for the murder of George Floyd.

There are also many Blue Dogs who win in similar districts but are DINO like Manchin.

The bolded is not accurate.
 
As more info comes out you going to see what we almost constantly see what Progressive candidates. They do really well with white people, mostly affluent white people. They don't do well with black voters because black voters see through their bullshit.

 
Fight them to give them direction and to keep their election promises but still vote with them to pass shit, unlike the democrats you love like Manchin, Cuellar, Sinema. None of which are progressive but all of which is what will keep the democrats from having anything to run for re-election on and lose the house and senate and white house.

I can't stand any of those 3. I also know you there's not much you can pressure them with given their states. You guys always claim if your agenda isn't passed, people will be upset, yet people never vote for your agenda. Meanwhile if Dems pass another stimulus, that's the best way to win.

Because at the end of the day, as opposed to political junkies online, people don't care about or pay attention to any of the shit you're so up in arms about. Puts some cash in their pockets.That's it.

They don't give a shit about a green new deal or student debt, or hell m4a really. They don't give a fuck about Trump going to jail or Jan 6.
 
• Reauthorize Violence Against Women Act. Incomplete. Biden, who sponsored the 1994 law, vowed to push Congress to reauthorize it. But there’s no clear bipartisan path for doing so.

• Ease union organizing. Incomplete. While Biden threw his support behind an unsuccessful unionization effort by some Amazon workers in March, he has yet to follow through on a promise to create a Cabinet-level working group to promote union organizing and address economic inequality.

Establish police oversight board. Abandoned. Biden decided to scrap this campaign proposal after both sides — civil rights groups and police unions — agreed that it would be counterproductive.

Gun control. Incomplete. Biden has not yet directed the attorney general to propose restructuring the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other agencies to better enforce federal gun laws. Following another spate of mass shootings, Biden called on Congress to enact stricter gun laws. This month he signed executive orders to restrict “ghost guns” — firearms that are assembled at home, don’t have serial numbers and are harder to track — and to make it harder for dangerous people to obtain weapons.

Address systemic racism. Incomplete. On Jan. 26, Biden signed four executive orders addressing racial equity: focusing on discrimination against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders, strengthening tribal relations, reinstating an Obama-era anti-housing discrimination rule and ending the Justice Department’s use of private prisons. But as Republican-led states have passed restrictive voting laws, Biden and congressional Democrats have been unable to move ahead with an update to the Voting Rights Act, to allow federal challenges to states’ changes that could disproportionately prevent voters of color from casting ballots. Given Republicans’ opposition, success is likely only if Senate Democrats do away with the chamber’s filibuster rule that sets a 60-vote threshold.


• Green New Deal. Fail
• Medicare forAll. Fail
• Actually working and not tweeting all day. HUGE FAIL

The squad gets a zero.
 
As more info comes out you going to see what we almost constantly see what Progressive candidates. They do really well with white people, mostly affluent white people. They don't do well with black voters because black voters see through their bullshit.


I expected the margin to be higher in Warrensville honestly since Shontel worked there. Was pretty close here in South Euclid but we are pretty diverse.
I voted for Nina but her comments after the loss really rubbed me the wrong way. Extreme progressives suck at being electable. Once Shontel got some money for attack ads to use her own words against her it was a wrap. Felt like a Presidential election. Couldn't even watch a kids video on youtube without seeing it. Ads in the mail daily too.
 
As more info comes out you going to see what we almost constantly see what Progressive candidates. They do really well with white people, mostly affluent white people. They don't do well with black voters because black voters see through their bullshit.



Black voters see through their bullshit or black voters get bullshitted by the old guard establishment like Clyburn ?

Black voters see through progressives but never saw through Biden, Clintons or Obama for that matter.

Such insightfulness..... :rolleyes2:
 
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Black voters see through their bullshit or black voters get bullshitted by the old guard establishment like Clyburn ?

Black voters see through progressives but never saw through Biden, Clintons or Obama for that matter.

Such insightfulness..... :rolleyes2:

So have we reached the part where progressives like you will not accept that your candidates are awful and that they do everything they can to turn off black voters?? Instead you go on and on about how black voters have been fooled by the establishment.

It's amazing how racist that bullshit really is because instead of stopping to look at what Progressive are doing wrong the first assumption and the one that you're jumping on is that black people must be too stupid.

What I find extra funny is that people like you, who may be Black, are parroting that bullshit you get from groups like the DSA and Sunrise Movement.....groups that are so lily white they won't even give out their demographic info anymore.

But yes tell me again how black people are stupid because we won't vote for the candidates who's backers say things like we need to move away from Identity politics, we really need free college but reparations is too divisive, on and on and on.

You dudes keep playing yourselves with Black voters cause your base are a bunch of college white boys that are mad they're not as successful as their parents and hate that the Dem party base are Black voters.
 
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So have we reached the part where progressives like you will not accept that your candidates are awful and that they do everything they can to turn off black voters?? Instead you go on and on about how black voters have been fooled by the establishment.

It's amazing how racist that bullshit really is because instead of stopping to look at what Progressive are doing wrong the first assumption and the one that you're jumping on is that black people must be too stupid.

What I find extra funny is that people like you, who may be Black, are parroting that bullshit you get from groups like the DSA and Sunrise Movement.....groups that are so lily white they won't even give out their demographic info anymore.

But yes tell me again how black people are stupid because we won't vote for the candidates who's backers say things like we need to move away from Identity politics, we really need free college but reparations is too divisive, on and on and on.

You dudes keep playing yourselves with Black voters cause your base are a bunch of college white boys that are mad they're not as successful as their parents and hate that the Dem party base are Black voters.

No we at the point that Biden lied to your face and Lyburn said I know Joe and Joe get in and worries about Asianebing victims and you mofokrs think it's all love.

We are at the point that mofokrs keep voting for the same hand picked candidates and get the same results........insanity huh?

I have no idea who DSA or Sunrise movements are. But I do know the DNC and what they have produced for the last 50 years.

I know we at the point that mofokrs blindly back candidates whose policies won't provide any benefit so they lie and parrot the policies proposed by the progressives.

Actually progressive is what democrats used to be until 1980.....The Regan whipped their ass and they have been pussy ever since trying to morph into republicans light with ni identiy.

You really can't show the democratic identity and something separate from the republicans of the 80s.

So you can play all those little simple narratives that work on cats to young to know better.
 
No we at the point that Biden lied to your face and Lyburn said I know Joe and Joe get in and worries about Asianebing victims and you mofokrs think it's all love.

We are at the point that mofokrs keep voting for the same hand picked candidates and get the same results........insanity huh?

I have no idea who DSA or Sunrise movements are. But I do know the DNC and what they have produced for the last 50 years.

I know we at the point that mofokrs blindly back candidates whose policies won't provide any benefit so they lie and parrot the policies proposed by the progressives.

Actually progressive is what democrats used to be until 1980.....The Regan whipped their ass and they have been pussy ever since trying to morph into republicans light with ni identiy.

You really can't show the democratic identity and something separate from the republicans of the 80s.

So you can play all those little simple narratives that work on cats to young to know better.

Your claiming to be progressive but don't know who the DSA or Sunrise Movement are??

Seriously???


Now you're just bullshitting.
 
I'm glad Turner lost..... she's an aggressive, confrontational, loud mouthed know-it-all whose off, pause and volume control has been broken for years..... :hmm:


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And now that the exit polls have come out its just like I told you. Turner and the rest of her squad are popular with white people....

 
We need Black PACs and focus on local and regional elections. The elite old guard nigro intelligentsia are not serving the needs of everyday black people. With a Black PAC we can run strong black local candidates and take our power in places where we are concentrated. We have to get wiser about the political game and stop being pawns.
 
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