"Such, indeed, is the policy of civil war: severely to remember injuries, and to forget the most important services.
Revenge is profitable, gratitude is expensive."
Revenge is profitable, gratitude is expensive."
tahbasco said:Good question, and honestly I have to say as long as half the country doesn't get destroyed by another WW I can care less if we slip to #2. Unfortunately, with us having the nukes and the military to take down damn near everybody in the world, I don't see us becoming #2 without some serious events taking place.
GET YOU HOT said:Oh yes, the decline of the United States is based on MP3 sales & the Democratic Party![]()
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My Mella said:"At present, we have no way of knowing how frequently these attacks on civilians are taking place."
Count on about everyday............the US has become a modern day Roman Empire. Things are fucked up in a big way. Manipulative wars, greed, deliberate oil dependency, slow economy with shrinking wages..............the recipe is all there fellas.
History has taught us that when any successful society loses it working middle class because the wealth gap spreads to far between the rich and the working poor---that society collapses. Check it out.
Nah, it's better to be pessimistic. That way, when things go wrong (which they do sometimes), they can say "I told yo so". Also, IMO, we have gotten the government we have been asking for. We want a government to take care of us, and boy are they EVER taking care of us. It reminds me of a favorite quote of mine from Thomas Jefferson (I think),QueEx said:With so much gloom and doom, perhaps, somebody needs to start a thread about whats good in/about the United States.
Thanks for the article, it actually makes a point about what is good in the US. The US actually has the widest distribution of wealth on the planet,or is close to it. THat is good and positive, especially considering we are the first society to actually attempt to implement a free market system.GET YOU HOT said:In a Capitalist Nation, Wealth is Power...
Wealth, Income, and Power
by G. William Domhoff
February 2006
This document presents details on the wealth and income distributions in the United States, and explains how we use these two distributions as power indicators.
Some of the information might be a surprise to many people. The most amazing numbers come last, showing the change in the ratio of the average CEO's paycheck to that of the average factory worker over the past 40 years.
First, though, two definitions. Generally speaking, "wealth" is the value of everything a person or family owns, minus any debts. However, for purposes of studying the wealth distribution, economists define wealth in terms of marketable assets, such as real estate, stocks, and bonds, leaving aside consumer durables like cars and household items because they are not as readily converted into cash and are more valuable to their owners for use purposes than they are for resale (Wolff, 2004, p. 4, for a full discussion of these issues). Once the value of all marketable assets is determined, then all debts, such as home mortgages and credit card debts, are subtracted, which yields a person's net worth. In addition, economists use the concept of financial wealth, which is defined as net worth minus net equity in owner-occupied housing. As Wolff (2004, p. 5) explains, "Financial wealth is a more 'liquid' concept than marketable wealth, since one's home is difficult to convert into cash in the short term. It thus reflects the resources that may be immediately available for consumption or various forms of investments."
We also need to distinguish wealth from income. Income is what people earn from wages, dividends, interest, and any rents or royalties that are paid to them on properties they own. In theory, those who own a great deal of wealth may or may not have high incomes, depending on the returns they receive from their wealth, but in reality those at the very top of the wealth distribution usually have the most income.
The Wealth Distribution
In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2001, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 33.4% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 51%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 84%, leaving only 16% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth, the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 39.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2004).
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
This thread is nothing but negativity. It is entitled "The Decline of the US" !!!GET YOU HOT said:^^^Did anyone watch the video? Does the truth hurt?
Read my post history, there is no need for negativity to sustain my threads or posts...
>As with any other thread there are comments or articles contridicting opionions, what is so different here>?
Given the pretext, that there are so many wonderful things happening that sustain the existance of the United States of America, if you please Gentlemen...
WHO will start the tread???
Fuckallyall said:Thanks for the article, it actually makes a point about what is good in the US. The US actually has the widest distribution of wealth on the planet,or is close to it. THat is good and positive, especially considering we are the first society to actually attempt to implement a free market system.
BTW, you are wrong to state that the US is a capitalist system. It is not.
Can you say mo money???Fuckallyall said:Thanks for the article, it actually makes a point about what is good in the US. The US actually has the widest distribution of wealth on the planet,or is close to it. THat is good and positive, especially considering we are the first society to actually attempt to implement a free market system.
BTW, you are wrong to state that the US is a capitalist system. It is not.
The Wealth Distribution
In the United States, wealth is highly concentrated in a relatively few hands. As of 2001, the top 1% of households (the upper class) owned 33.4% of all privately held wealth, and the next 19% (the managerial, professional, and small business stratum) had 51%, which means that just 20% of the people owned a remarkable 84%, leaving only 16% of the wealth for the bottom 80% (wage and salary workers). In terms of financial wealth, the top 1% of households had an even greater share: 39.7%. Table 1 and Figure 1 present further details drawn from the careful work of economist Edward N. Wolff at New York University (2004).
Fuckallyall said:The US actually has the widest distribution of wealth on the planet,or is close to it.
yureeka9 said:This is damn ridiculous. I hope you bastards that put Bush in office are out dancing naked in the rain!

Agallah005 said:America is going to have the shortest empire in history. only two hundred some-odd years, too bad, I was starting to like this country