The Decline Of The United States

AristotlesOwn said:
There's so much craziness going on in the world, it's hard to keep up. I find myself having difficulty figuring out who to listen to with all media being biased to some degree (international included). What it all boils down to is that I hope that we've learned our lesson and come Nov. 2008 we make some smarter decisions about who we want to put in that house on Pennsylvania Ave.

I see things getting alot crazier on the homefront.

My biggest fear, some type of orchestrated State of Emergency, that keeps Bush in office :eek:
 
Situation Called Dire in West Iraq
Anbar Is Lost Politically, Marine Analyst Says

By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 11, 2006



The chief of intelligence for the Marine Corps in Iraq recently filed an unusual secret report concluding that the prospects for securing that country's western Anbar province are dim and that there is almost nothing the U.S. military can do to improve the political and social situation there, said several military officers and intelligence officials familiar with its contents.

The officials described Col. Pete Devlin's classified assessment of the dire state of Anbar as the first time that a senior U.S. military officer has filed so negative a report from Iraq.

One Army officer summarized it as arguing that in Anbar province, "We haven't been defeated militarily but we have been defeated politically -- and that's where wars are won and lost."

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No one interviewed would quote from the report, citing its classification, and The Washington Post was not shown a copy of it. But over the past three weeks, Devlin's paper has been widely disseminated in military and intelligence circles. It is provoking intense debate over the key finding that in Anbar, the U.S. effort to clear and hold major cities and the upper Euphrates valley has failed.

The report comes at an awkward time politically, just as a midterm election campaign gets underway that promises to be in part a referendum on the Bush administration's handling of the Iraq war. It also follows by just a few weeks the testimony of Army Gen. John P. Abizaid, the top U.S. commander for the Middle East, who told the Senate Armed Services Committee early last month that "it is possible that Iraq could move toward civil war."

"It's hard to be optimistic right now," said one Army general who has served in Iraq. "There's a sort of critical mass of tough news," he said, with intensifying violence from the insurgency and between Sunnis and Shiites, a lack of effective Iraqi government and a growing concern that Iraq may be falling apart.

"In the analytical world, there is a real pall of gloom descending," said Jeffrey White, a former analyst of Middle Eastern militaries for the Defense Intelligence Agency, who also had been told about the pessimistic Marine report.

Devlin, who is in Iraq, could not be reached to comment. Col. Jerry Renne, a spokesman for the U.S. Central Command, said Saturday that "as a matter of policy, we don't comment on classified documents."

Anbar is a key province; it encompasses Ramadi and Fallujah, which with Baghdad pose the greatest challenge U.S. forces have faced in Iraq. It accounts for 30 percent of Iraq's land mass, encompassing the vast area from the capital to the borders of Syria and Jordan, including much of the area that has come to be known as the Sunni Triangle.

The insurgency arguably began there with fighting in Fallujah not long after U.S. troops arrived in April 2003, and fighting has since continued. Thirty-three U.S. military personnel died there in August -- 17 from the Marines, 13 from the Army and three from the Navy.

A second general who has read the report warned that he thought it was accurate as far as it went, but agreed with the defense official that Devlin's "dismal" view may not have much applicability elsewhere in Iraq. The problems facing Anbar are peculiar to that region, he and others argued.

But an Army officer in Iraq familiar with the report said he considers it accurate. "It is best characterized as 'realistic,' " he said.

"From what I understand, it is very candid, very unvarnished," said retired Marine Col. G. I. Wilson. "It says the emperor has no clothes."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091001204_pf.html
 
GAO chief warns economic disaster looms
By MATT CRENSON, AP National Writer
Sat Oct 28, 6:54 PM ET

AUSTIN, Texas - David M. Walker sure talks like he's running for office. "This is about the future of our country, our kids and grandkids," the comptroller general of the United States warns a packed hall at Austin's historic Driskill Hotel. "We the people have to rise up to make sure things get changed."

But Walker doesn't want, or need, your vote this November. He already has a job as head of the Government Accountability Office, an investigative arm of Congress that audits and evaluates the performance of the federal government.

Basically, that makes Walker the nation's accountant-in-chief. And the accountant-in-chief's professional opinion is that the American public needs to tell Washington it's time to steer the nation off the path to financial ruin.

From the hustings and the airwaves this campaign season, America's political class can be heard debating Capitol Hill sex scandals, the wisdom of the war in Iraq and which party is tougher on terror. Democrats and Republicans talk of cutting taxes to make life easier for the American people.

What they don't talk about is a dirty little secret everyone in Washington knows, or at least should. The vast majority of economists and budget analysts agree: The ship of state is on a disastrous course, and will founder on the reefs of economic disaster if nothing is done to correct it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061028/ap_on
 
Bush Changes Continuity Plan
Administration, Not DHS, Would Run Shadow Government

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, May 10, 2007;

President Bush issued a formal national security directive yesterday ordering agencies to prepare contingency plans for a surprise, "decapitating" attack on the federal government, and assigned responsibility for coordinating such plans to the White House.

The prospect of a nuclear bomb being detonated in Washington without warning, whether smuggled in by terrorists or a foreign government, has been cited by many security analysts as a rising concern since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The order makes explicit that the focus of federal worst-case planning involves a covert nuclear attack against the nation's capital, in contrast with Cold War assumptions that a long-range strike would be preceded by a notice of minutes or hours as missiles were fueled and launched.

"As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received," states the 72-paragraph order. It is designated National Security Presidential Directive 51 and Homeland Security Presidential Directive 20.

The statement added, "Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted Government Functions."

After the 2001 attacks, Bush assigned about 100 senior civilian managers to rotate secretly to locations outside of Washington for weeks or months at a time to ensure the nation's survival, a shadow government that evolved based on long-standing "continuity of operations plans."

Since then, other agencies including the Pentagon, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA have taken steps to relocate facilities or key functions outside of Washington for their own reasons, citing factors such as economics or the importance of avoiding Beltway "group-think."

Norman J. Ornstein, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and an adviser to an independent Continuity of Government Commission, said the order "is a more explicit embrace of what has been since 9/11 an implicit but fairly clear set of assumptions."

He added, "My frustration is that those assumptions have not gripped the Congress in the same way."

Other former Bush administration officials said the directive formalizes a shift of authority away from the Department of Homeland Security to the White House.

Under an executive order dating to the Reagan administration, responsibility for coordinating, implementing and exercising such plans was originally charged to the Federal Emergency Management Agency and later DHS, the Congressional Research Service noted in a 2005 report on a pending DHS reorganization.

The new directive gives the job of coordinating policy to the president's assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism -- Frances Fragos Townsend, who will assume the title of national continuity coordinator -- in consultation with Bush's national security adviser, Stephen J. Hadley, with the support of the White House's Homeland Security Council staff. Townsend is to produce an implementation plan within 90 days. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff will continue to coordinate operations and activities, the directive said.
 
Foreign investment is a big chunk of our stock market, when i see things like the following report in coincidence with Bush's signing of the new foreign investment bill, i get a bad vibe. It feels like "who has their hand in the cookie jar"...!? No coincidence... :hmm:

Bush Signs Foreign Investment Bill
The Associated Press
Thursday, July 26, 2007; 4:28 PM


WASHINGTON -- President Bush signed a bill Thursday to tighten national security reviews of proposed foreign investment, a consequence of the uproar 18 months ago over a Dubai-owned company's plan to manage six of the United States' largest ports.

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/26/AR2007072601573.html


Sell-Offs on U.S., Foreign Exchanges Send Investors to Safer Havens
From News Services
Friday, July 27, 2007

Stocks tumbled around the world yesterday, and a rally in U.S. Treasurys over concern that higher borrowing costs would slow takeovers and increase debt defaults prompted investors to flee riskier assets.

The Dow Jones industrial average and Standard & Poor's 500-stock index had their biggest one-day losses since February. The Dow lost 311.50 to close 13,473.57, near its low for the session. The S&P closed at 1482.66, down 35.43. The Nasdaq composite index closed at 2599.34, down 48.83.

The declines in the United States triggered a global sell-off in stocks, causing losses in Europe to accelerate rapidly during the day. In Europe, Britain's FTSE 100 fell 3.2 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 2.4 percent and France's CAC 40 fell 2.8 percent.

Stocks in Brazil and Turkey led declines in emerging markets. The Morgan Stanley Capital International Emerging Market index fell 2.6 percent, its biggest drop since March.

Investors' global flight from equities aided U.S. Treasurys as traders shifted cash to safer investments. Bonds rallied, with the yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note falling to 4.79 percent from 4.90 percent Wednesday.

Richard Bernstein, Merrill Lynch's chief investment strategist in New York, said investors should stop speculating that takeovers will send shares higher. "With the debt markets quickly moving to ration credit, the probability of companies being 'taken out' is plummeting," Bernstein wrote in an investors' note.

Movers
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Exxon Mobil fell $4.56, to $88.23. Second-quarter profit dipped 1 percent because of lower natural gas prices and production declines. The results missed analysts' forecasts.

Bear Stearns fell $5.03, to $124.25. The firm recently made bad bets on bonds backed by subprime mortgages.

Carpenter Technology fell $18.46, $121.34. The specialty alloy producer said fourth-quarter profit fell 10 percent on more expensive nickel and a higher tax rate.

Apple rose $9.43, to $146.69. A strong quarterly profit report, released late Wednesday, exceeded analysts' expectations.

Comcast fell $1.33, to $27.21. The cable TV operator said second-quarter profit rose 28 percent, but basic video subscribers declined.
 
U.S. credit squeeze frays world financial markets
Fri Aug 3, 2007 6:42PM EDT

By Jennifer Ablan - Analysis

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The unraveling U.S. subprime mortgage market is causing other markets to fray around the edges faster than anyone expected.

As the Federal Reserve convenes for its latest meeting on Tuesday, the corporate credit markets are grinding to a halt. About $90 billion of bonds and nearly $250 billion of loans are still awaiting buyers, several high-profile hedge funds from the U.S. East Coast to Australia have failed, and a major U.S. mortgage lender this week closed its doors.

"All these people saying there is no credit crunch and no economic impact - 'Are you kidding me?'", said Jeffrey Gundlach, chief investment officer at TCW Group in Los Angeles, which manages assets worth $160 billion.

"Ask Goldman if there is no credit crunch, ask Bear Stearns if there is no credit crunch, call up American Home Mortgage and ask them if there is no credit crunch. Come on! It is staring you in the face," Gundlach added.

On Friday, shares in Bear Stearns Cos. (BSC.N: Quote, Profile, Research) dropped as much as 7.85 percent after credit rating agency Standard & Poor's lowered its outlook on the bank's debt to negative, citing problems at Bear's managed hedge funds.

In a conference call, Bear Stearns Chief Financial Officer Samuel Molinaro said: "It's as been as bad as I've seen it in 22 years. The fixed income market environment we've seen in the last eight weeks has been pretty extreme."

His comments on Friday helped cause the biggest one day fall in the benchmark S&P 500 stock index since February 27.

The volatility in global financial markets this month resulting from rising default rates on U.S. subprime mortgages has led to a risk reappraisal across credit and stock markets, which some say can be seen as good news for the Fed as it cools a takeover boom fuelled by excessive global liquidity.

Nonetheless, global financial markets have been "gripped by panic," said Chen Zhao, managing editor of Global Investment Strategy at Bank Credit Analyst in Montreal. Continued...

SOURCE:http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSN0364594520070803?pageNumber=1
 
GET YOU HOT said:
This is true...however, my answer was to address a specific^^^ statement...


I certainly hope you're not clinically depressed.... because anyone who over indulges in "bad" news has a problem.....

The quick fix is to do what the old folks used to say years ago.... count your blessings....
 
bromack1 said:
I certainly hope you're not clinically depressed.... because anyone who over indulges in "bad" news has a problem.....

The quick fix is to do what the old folks used to say years ago.... count your blessings....


I don't do projection, there is the 6 o'clock news and 60minutes for you SHEEPLE...

I'm documenting the decline of a great nation, something called AWARENESS. I'm experiencing alot of resistance to this thread :hmm: why then, isnt it so easy to ACT LOCALLY, THINK GLOBALLY, given the obvious...?


U LIVE IN A BOX, EH?
 
I don't know the mental condition of anyone on this board, only thing i can say is dude is ringing the bell mighty loud trying to bring attention to this disaster that is unfolding before our eyes. The word depression, as in economic depression circa 1930's, is being whispered in some circles. Might be the current climate of fear talking....maybe not. You have to prepare yourself and your families for the possibility that shit will get really bad instead of getting hit by a load of bricks at the last minute. Don't panic, just be aware of whats going on and apply it to your current financial situation then project where you need to be to weather this storm with as little damage as possible to your standard of living. I know I'm not giving any specifics but shit is so volatile everyone is reacting to information on an hourly basis.


PEACE
 
It's quite alright UNC, i got this...
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Hold on, a slight "transfer of funds"-to China; $$$ devaluating, also, Federal Reserve, steps in to save U.S. :hmm: ...

China's mutual funds triple in assets

By Murray Coleman
Last Update: 5:04 PM ET Aug 10, 2007


SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Net assets in mutual-funds based in China have more than tripled in 2007 through June, the People's Bank of China says. In its second quarter report, the country's central bank listed mutal-fund assets at $1.8 trillion yuan. Some 29 more mutual-funds were opened in the first half of the year, according to a statement by the bank
 
Everybody that knows a thing or 2 and keeping their head on a swivel is running for cover. China seems to be about the best place to be, well actually Asia in general though as a region it took some lumps also but not as bad as Europe which has taking an ass whupping for the past month.
 
Tell you what, right about now, there is better places to live besides the United States...:angry:


U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 08 Nov 2007 at 07:27:27 PM GMT is:
$9,088,586,378,536.14


The estimated population of the United States is 303,478,679
so each citizen's share of this debt is $29,948.02.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.44 billion per day since September 29, 2006!
Concerned? Then tell Congress and the White House!
 
this country is going down hill. The asians are producing all the brains and buying ALL of our debt. The US can't compete in the global economy vs the asians sadly.
 
U.S. intel official: Secrecy dysfunctional


Published: Jan. 14, 2008 at 2:55 PM
WASHINGTON, Jan. 14 (UPI) -- A senior counter-intelligence official says the U.S. system for protecting secrets has become "dysfunctional in the face of current needs of national security."

The comments come from Marion Bowman, a former senior FBI official who headed the bureau's intelligence shop for many years, and who now works for the National Counter-Intelligence Executive.

In a broad-ranging review of U.S. classification policy published recently and written while he was out of government, Bowman writes that "any realistic appraisal of classification today will lead the researcher to a logical conclusion that both over-classification and over-long duration of classification are culturally governed by a decades-old process of protecting government information … that has become dysfunctional in the face of current needs of national security."

The review was published by the Association of Former Intelligence Officials in the latest edition of its journal, Intelligencer. It was posted Monday on the blog of the Federation of American Scientists' Project on Government Secrecy.

Bowman criticizes both the expansion of classification authority and the proliferation of categories of so-called controlled but unclassified information, such as that marked "for official use only" or "law enforcement sensitive."

He says that what is needed is nothing less than a "complete re-write of both classification and (information-sharing) access Executive Orders, to be buttressed by any required legislation."

The re-write needs to "start with the philosophy of need (for the sharing as well as protection of information) that exists today, rather than that which has carried forward from World War II."


© 2008 United Press International.
 
In my opinion, the USA did not get to the "Empire" status until WWII when war expanded our borders and world influence. We were a super power before that, but never tried to control the world like England, Portugal, Spain, and Rome did.

Naaahhh, more like The Spanish American War...

Do a recount of the History again, take another look at the knowledge...

America is surely coming to it's end.

*breaks out the bass guitar*

Gentlemen (Ladies)? I must say that it has been a PLEASURE playing with you...

*Slides on the E/ starts thumpin' a rift*
 
While politicians stir nationalism up among the people, the powers that be keep on keepin' on!

source: New York Times

One Way Up: U.S. Space Plan Relies on Russia

By JOHN SCHWARTZ
Published: October 5, 2008

STAR CITY, Russia — This place was once no place, a secret military base northeast of Moscow that did not show up on maps. The Soviet Union trained its astronauts here to fight on the highest battlefield of the cold war: space.

Yet these days, Star City is the place for America’s hard-won orbital partnership with Russia, where astronauts train to fly aboard Soyuz spacecraft. And in two years Star City will be the only place to send astronauts from any nation to the International Space Station.

The gap is coming: from 2010, when the National Aeronautics and Space Administration shuts down the space shuttle program, to 2015, when the next generation of American spacecraft is scheduled to arrive, NASA expects to have no human flight capacity and will depend on Russia to get to the $100 billion station, buying seats on Soyuz craft as space tourists do.

As NASA celebrates its 50th anniversary this month, the time lag in the Bush administration’s plan to retire the nation’s three space shuttles and work on a return to the Moon has thrust the United States space program squarely into national politics and geopolitical controversy.

Senators John McCain and Barack Obama have denounced the gap and promoted their commitment to the space program while on trips to Florida, where thousands of workers will lose their jobs when the shuttle program ends. And antagonism between the United States and Russia, over the conflict in Georgia and other issues, is clouding the future of a 15-year partnership in space, precisely when NASA will be more reliant on Russia than ever before.

The administrator of NASA, Michael D. Griffin, has called the situation “unseemly in the extreme.” In an e-mail message he sent to his top advisers in August, Dr. Griffin wrote that “events have unfolded in a way that makes it clear how unwise it was for the U.S. to adopt a policy of deliberate dependence on another power.”

Dr. Griffin is worried enough that he ordered his staff to explore flying the aging shuttles past 2010. He did so, he said in an interview last month, “about five minutes after the Russians invaded Georgia, because I could see this coming.” But he warned that any extension would be costly and could further delay NASA’s return to the Moon and threaten America’s role as the leading space power.

China’s Gains

Last month, China made the third successful launching of its Shenzhou VII spacecraft and the first spacewalk by one of its astronauts. The Chinese government has said it hopes to establish a space station and eventually make a Moon landing. The United States plans to return to the Moon by 2020 at the earliest; some observers believe China might get there first.

The interruption in American-controlled access to space rankles some in Washington, including Senator Bill Nelson of Florida, a leading proponent of the space program. In an interview, Mr. Nelson said it was “inexcusable” for the country’s space program to be put in a position of dependence on such a politically volatile partner. “We’ve got a Russian prime minister who believes he’s czar,” he said of Vladimir Putin, referring to Russia’s military action in Georgia.

The United States has had periods in which its astronauts could not reach space: from the end of the Apollo program in 1975 to the beginning of shuttle flights in 1981, and for more than two years after the loss of the shuttles Challenger in 1986 and Columbia in 2003. But the coming interval could be the longest if the rollout of NASA’s new rockets is significantly delayed.

Even though the outlines of the gap have been known since soon after Dr. Griffin began running the agency in 2005, Cmdr. Scott J. Kelly of the Navy, an astronaut who has made two trips to orbit, warned in April that the prospect of a United States that could not send humans into space on its own rockets would come as a shock. “A large part of the American public is going to be surprised,” he said, adding that people would cry, “Who let that happen?”

The Politics

The Bush administration chose to give up the nation’s own access to space for five years and move to the next phase of space travel. The administration decided to retire the shuttles and in January 2004 announced a sweeping “vision for space exploration.”

Under the plan, NASA would stop using the aging and risky shuttle fleet and move to a new launching program, Constellation, built around Ares rockets and Orion capsules that are designed to return astronauts to the Moon and even to explore near-Earth asteroids and Mars.

To get from one program to the other without inflating NASA’s $17 billion annual budget, the administration decided to wind down the shuttle program and ramp up Constellation. The decision has always been portrayed as difficult, but in recent months, criticism has flared. The Republican and Democratic presidential candidates, for example, have pledged to keep America flying.

“As president, I will act to ensure our astronauts will continue to explore space, and not just by hitching a ride with someone else,” Mr. McCain said in a statement this year. Mr. Obama has criticized what he has called the “poor planning and inadequate funding” that have led to the situation.

Both candidates say NASA should explore the continuation of the shuttle program for at least one additional flight and try to speed up the development of Constellation with more
financing.

Any new money, though, would come too late to greatly shorten the development time for the new craft. “It is essentially unfixable now,” Dr. Griffin said. His growing frustration was clear in his e-mail message to aides on Aug. 18, which included the order to study the additional flights.

“In a rational world, we would have been allowed to pick a shuttle retirement date to be consistent with Ares/Orion availability,” Dr. Griffin wrote. Within the administration, he wrote, “retiring the shuttle is a jihad rather than an engineering and program management decision.”

After the message was published by The Orlando Sentinel, Dr. Griffin issued a statement saying his message had failed “to provide the contextual framework for my remarks, and my support for the administration’s policies.”

At the time, legislation vital to NASA’s gap plans — permission by Congress to buy Soyuz seats after 2011 — was stalled by the furor over the Russian action in Georgia. That problem was resolved last month when Congress quietly granted approval, but the broader issues presented by the gap remain. And Dr. Griffin’s concerns do not end with Russia and Washington politics. He has repeatedly warned that China’s space program is moving forward rapidly.

In testimony to the Senate last year, Dr. Griffin said it was likely that “China will be able to put people on the Moon before we will be able to get back.” That prospect concerns Representative Tom Feeney, Republican of Florida. A fellow congressman recently suggested naming the first new lunar base after Neil Armstrong. Mr. Feeney recalled responding, “What makes you think the Chinese are going to give us permission to name their base after one of our astronauts?”

The Partnership

The growing tension with Russia complicates a longstanding international alliance in space that helped defuse the cold war, especially among those who had served at the front lines.

William M. Shepherd, the first commander of the station and a former member of the Navy Seals, recalled that when he and his crewmate Yuri Gidzenko first orbited the Earth, the two cold warriors pointed to bases where, years before, they had trained and waited on alert.

“I realized at that moment we were not an American and a Russian any more,” Mr. Shepherd said.” “It was about something that transcended that whole canvas.”

The partnership began in the 1990s, as the Soviet Union and its economy collapsed and Russian knowledge about carrying people into orbit — or bombs to distant destinations — was at risk of falling into the hands of hostile nations. In paying to help keep the Russian space program going, the logic went, the United States would limit arms proliferation. By the mid-1990s Americans began serving aboard the Mir space station as the United States and Russia planned what would become the International Space Station.

The early days were marked by wariness. Mark Bowman, an early contract employee in Russia who is now back in Moscow as a NASA representative, said that Korolev, where mission control is, “was a closed city” when he arrived in 1993. “Foreigners were not allowed here,” Mr. Bowman said.

These days, teams of NASA workers live year round in Russia and dozens of others come through for training runs, launchings and landings. “I’d venture to say the people who work at NASA know the Russians better than any other branch of our government,” Commander Kelly, the astronaut, said.

Susan Eisenhower, an expert on United States-Russia relations and the space programs, said the Russians proved after the loss of the shuttle Columbia that they would hold up their end of the bargain by continuing to take Americans to the station. “When we had no choice because of the shuttle failure the Russian could have blackmailed us around this tragedy and did not do so,” Ms. Eisenhower said.

Vitaly Davidov, the deputy director of Roscosmos, the Russian space agency, said in an interview at mission control that Russia would honor its commitments to fly crews to the station.

That does not mean the going will be easy. The United States and Russia are at loggerheads over many trade and political issues. But Michael Krepon, who helped found the Henry L. Stimson Center, a policy institute, said that while the Russian space monopoly created risk, “there is a longstanding etiquette: you do not mess with the safety of humans in space.”

“I don’t think this is going to get very ugly if the gap problem continues,” Mr. Krepon said. “But it will become expensive.”
 
I hate threads like this.

This is about as stupid as bragging about living in the most dangerous city when your dumb-ass lives there.

I don't know what it is about some of our people bragging and getting giddy over some negative shit that effects them.

"You get more respect coming out of prison than graduating from college!" - Chris Rock

I guess some of you hope this shit happen, because you just LOVE dwelling on the negative and being miserable. Motherfuckers want the entire country to cave in because they're broke...

Yes, that's why.

...I promise you nobody with any real money is anticipating the fall of the country that they got rich in. If they are, then I officially declare them a dumb-ass.
 
^^^^^^^^^^

I guess that's the thing.

Why would you want a system where every city in the country with a majority of African-Americans has the cocktail of high poverty, high crime and high unemployment and consider it good?

This is an insidious and massively corrupt system designed to advance white supremacy. The sooner this system ends, the sooner slave descendants can successfully rebuild their hometowns.

The more I read and learn about the United States economic model of today, the clearer it becomes it is the great scam against non-whites and the great benefactor for the honkeys.
 
The US Empire 'will fall by 2020.'

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Johan Galtung claims that the US Empire will fall in 10 years time. Close the curtains. (Excuse the noise in the beginning)
 
Anyone want to weigh in on this now, Everyone! People are suffering mental breakdowns in this cesspool, no joke
 
Thanks for the article, it actually makes a point about what is good in the US. The US actually has the widest distribution of wealth on the planet,or is close to it. THat is good and positive, especially considering we are the first society to actually attempt to implement a free market system.

BTW, you are wrong to state that the US is a capitalist system. It is not.


There are loop holes, just to bring you up to date, here is an example of how the capitalist system works...


The 500 investor rule is a key threshold for private businesses which do not wish to disclose financial information for public consumption. Many believe that the 500 Investor Rule was one of the reasons that Google (Nasdaq:GOOG) filed for its IPO when it did, as the company was going to have to start disclosing to the SEC anyway.

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms//500-investor-rule.asp#ixzz1WLPzVJz7
 
I hate threads like this.

This is about as stupid as bragging about living in the most dangerous city when your dumb-ass lives there.

I don't know what it is about some of our people bragging and getting giddy over some negative shit that effects them.

"You get more respect coming out of prison than graduating from college!" - Chris Rock

I guess some of you hope this shit happen, because you just LOVE dwelling on the negative and being miserable. Motherfuckers want the entire country to cave in because they're broke...
:rolleyes:

Yes, that's why.

...I promise you nobody with any real money is anticipating the fall of the country that they got rich in. If they are, then I officially declare them a dumb-ass.


Thanks Unc, son needs to be here to read this...

I don't know the mental condition of anyone on this board, only thing i can say is dude is ringing the bell mighty loud trying to bring attention to this disaster that is unfolding before our eyes. The word depression, as in economic depression circa 1930's, is being whispered in some circles. Might be the current climate of fear talking....maybe not. You have to prepare yourself and your families for the possibility that shit will get really bad instead of getting hit by a load of bricks at the last minute. Don't panic, just be aware of whats going on and apply it to your current financial situation then project where you need to be to weather this storm with as little damage as possible to your standard of living. I know I'm not giving any specifics but shit is so volatile everyone is reacting to information on an hourly basis.


PEACE
 
"At present, we have no way of knowing how frequently these attacks on civilians are taking place."

Count on about everyday............the US has become a modern day Roman Empire. Things are fucked up in a big way. Manipulative wars, greed, deliberate oil dependency, slow economy with shrinking wages..............the recipe is all there fellas.

History has taught us that when any successful society loses it working middle class because the wealth gap spreads to far between the rich and the working poor---that society collapses. Check it out.



The Fall of the United States???

Many people argue that the United States has many similar characteristics to that of the Roman Empire before it fell. Use the knowledge you just obtained in the Fall of Rome Virtual Study Guide to compare Rome with the United States. Below, write a characteristic of the United States for each category below, each a reason for the Fall of the Roman Empire.



Decline in Morals and Values







Public Health









Political Corruption








Unemployment







Urban decay







Inferior Technology







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Based on what you know about the Roman Empire and the United States, make a prediction about the future of the United States.

http://keep2.sjfc.edu/class/bnapoli/msti431/jpk7984/msti431/fallofus.htm
 
My intention with this thread, is to draw attention to issues in our country, that I feel detract from the financial and moral grounds, there is more of course based on history, as black Americans, post and interact accordingly...thank you
 
My intention with this thread, is to draw attention to issues in our country, that I feel detract from the financial and moral grounds, there is more of course, as black Americans, post and interact accordingly...thank you
 
Well, the next 20 years will not be the same. I just came across these videos and it "some telling" shit. :smh:

Chris Martenson presents The Crash Course

In "The Crash Course", Chris Martenson presents an in-depth consideration of the Economy, Energy, and the Environment. Not only does he explain the fundamental causes of the current economic crisis, but he also demonstrates how the problems facing the economy are related to concurrent issues regarding our sources of energy and climate change. The information provided is eye-opening and vital to understanding the world in which we live and how that world will change in the near future. Presented as a concise and easy-to-understand video production in language accessible to all, The Crash Course is completely free, in an attempt to inform as many people as possible about the problems we face, and action we can take in response. As Chris says: "In order to know where we are headed, we have to know where we are, and in order to know where we are, we have to know where we have come from." That is precisely what "The Crash Course" tells us.



The complete course
http://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisMartensondotcom#g/c/7E8A774DA8435EEB

Now I know why some people are so eager to purchase precious metals like gold or silver.
 
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