The best revenge is to be them at their own game.
The Case for Reparations(colin)
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The best revenge is to be them at their own game.
exactly, 100%.
Access to make our own choices, to build our communities and fulfill our dreams, the way we see fit.
Same here.
Word is getting out on this article.
I wonder if it will hit the national stage like that "White Privilege" one.
The article hits very close to home because I'm from Chicago and I spent a lot of time in the Garfield Park area of Chicago growing up.
It's one thing to know the game is rigged against you from birth but what makes this such a difficult read is to see that the game has been rigged against us in almost every way imaginable from moment we stepped foot on this continent.
To read that Rep. Conyers bill cant even get HR 40 passed in the House yet this Benghazi bullshit keeps popping up, further lets me know that America is still not ready to come to grips with the effects of the systemic discrimination we have suffered through and continue to endure.
America has a debt to pay and I think many if not most of know it. Generational poverty did not begin as the result of a broken home. It is the result of not being able to own a home or land.
Thanks for posting the article OP.
It's one thing to know the game is rigged against you from birth but what makes this such a difficult read is to see that the game has been rigged against us in almost every way imaginable from moment we stepped foot on this continent.
To read that Rep. Conyers bill cant even get HR 40 passed in the House yet this Benghazi bullshit keeps popping up, further lets me know that America is still not ready to come to grips with the effects of the systemic discrimination we have suffered through and continue to endure.
America has a debt to pay and I think many if not most of know it. Generational poverty did not begin as the result of a broken home. It is the result of not being able to own a home or land.
Thanks for posting the article OP.
This is a must read for anyone interested in the topic. I found this book very comprehensive and relatively easy to understand.
"This short, definitive work regards the debate over reparations from the 1700s to the present, examining the arguments on both sides of the current debate. Taking us inside litigation and legislatures past and present, examining failed and successful lawsuits, and reparations actions by legislatures, newspapers, schools, and businesses, including apologies and truth commissions, this book offers a valuable historical and legal perspective for reparations advocates and critics alike."
I figured this thread would be a sticky by now...I read the article yesterday at work..so much knowledge dropped in that article...Bomani Jones was on twitter going OFF about that article yesterday....
I'm not a math person...but including interest..just in America..if each black person were paid what they were owed...we're looking at quadrillion..the price is steep...then you figure other countries including Brazil...the world economy would tank...
No. It wouldn't tank. It would "shift". Get my drift?
That was painful to read. At some parts I was furious. I don't know what has to happen, but we need to wake the fuck up.
I had heard something about this. I am going to check into it. But I know they have said to much time has passed. The Jews received reparations and America was not directly involved with that. In fact they still receive reparations today. We send billions of the tax payers dollars to Israel every year to keep them in a welfare state. And they rule America. They get greater reparations by controlling America and the money and resources of America.
The Japanese that were put in P.O.W camps here in America, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. They were all given 20 thousand dollars each or a surviving family member.
http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
The Japanese that were put in P.O.W camps here in America, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. They were all given 20 thousand dollars each or a surviving family member.
http://oneblacknation.webs.com/
http://blacknation.vpweb.com/default.html
That vid was talking about the poor people campaign and getting a check...but he breaks it down beautifully...land grant colleges..Penn state is a land grant college I believe...and what's up with having to take exams to get into hs in NY?
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If this went down, you know how many people would "find" a black ancestor? 
When facts that are readily accesable are laid out as cleanly and concisely as they are in this article it's very difficult for me to tolerate some of the intolerance I read from members on this board (elsewhere as well but I just wanna focus on tus forum for the moment). Time and time again I read contributions from "educated" black people- on here- who through their comments make it clear that they don't fully understand the impact and subsequent result these continuous assaults have had on our communities, and our physchology overall.
How long can you use and manipulate until you break a persons spirit? And some of you- instead of understanding the impact- just see the result and choose to criticize it/ us/them as if all of this exists in a vacuum. But what you're really doing is consigning the narrative which they produced in order to allow them to subjugate us... "They can't manage themselves, no self control, no discipline, hyper masculine, oversexualized." Now bc you don't wanna be lumped in with the black underclass you become vocal and overly critical without providing context for the condition.
Examples of us being forced out used and abused are reverywhere... Too many spirits were broken. Dumping drugs in the redlined areas is apart of this narrative. We have been working and trying to play by the rules... For decades but for far too many the disappointment just became to much. And now it is up to us... We have to continue to reference this history to manage through it... Instead of adopting their intolerant perspective.
Sorry for the rant.
How long can you use and manipulate until you break a persons spirit? And some of you- instead of understanding the impact- just see the result and choose to criticize it/ us/them as if all of this exists in a vacuum. But what you're really doing is consigning the narrative which they produced in order to allow them to subjugate us... "They can't manage themselves, no self control, no discipline, hyper masculine, oversexualized." Now bc you don't wanna be lumped in with the black underclass you become vocal and overly critical without providing context for the condition.
Examples of us being forced out used and abused are reverywhere... Too many spirits were broken. Dumping drugs in the redlined areas is apart of this narrative. We have been working and trying to play by the rules... For decades but for far too many the disappointment just became to much. And now it is up to us... We have to continue to reference this history to manage through it... Instead of adopting their intolerant perspective.
Sorry for the rant.
Great argument. Liberals will embrace would embrace it like affirmative action. The right wing will of course argue it's preposterous and reverse racism. Moderates on both sides (including Obama) will grab a box of popcorn and watch this one from the sidelines. Bottomline, this will be very entertaining for about 2 shows on MSNBC, CNN, and one show on FOX and then usual suspects like RMartin, Dyson, Sharpton, and Ulmer and the list goes on will try to keep the torch burning but to no avail. Unless someone in the middle has the balls to take this up, this ain't going anywhere. And certainly not in an election year.
read my post on the other page.
I think there is a fundamental ideal here that needs to happen before any reparations are paid.
Before reparations are received from America, we have to own to America, and that is no easy task.
Jews have had the upper hand by strategically placing their people in positions of great importance to further their cause and have done just that.
From banking to government, to education to healthcare, to entertainment to media, and any field of endeavour that controls daily living and well being, they have monopolised the game and have paid themselves exorbitantly through these mediums.
This is why they can send billions upon billions back to Israel without blinking.
Want money paid back? Ditch the 40 acres and mule talk and figure out how to overthrow these mediums.
That requires UNITY.
Maybe back in the days; when he was smoking weed in his dorm room tryna find himself.
But since he's become the modern day Stephin Fechit..I think not.
btw...
saving to my phone..wil read at work. thxs
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/02/obama-opposes-slavery-rep_n_116506.html
The troubling part is by the NAACP. It said "ALL" races, but ALL races were not enslaved.
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama opposes offering reparations to the descendants of slaves, putting him at odds with some black groups and leaders.
The man with a serious chance to become the nation's first black president argues that government should instead combat the legacy of slavery by improving schools, health care and the economy for all.
"I have said in the past _ and I'll repeat again _ that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed," the Illinois Democrat said recently.
Some two dozen members of Congress are co-sponsors of legislation to create a commission that would study reparations _ that is, payments and programs to make up for the damage done by slavery.
The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People supports the legislation, too. Cities around the country, including Obama's home of Chicago, have endorsed the idea, and so has a major union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees.
Obama has worked to be seen as someone who will bring people together, not divide them into various interest groups with checklists of demands. Supporting reparations could undermine that image and make him appear to be pandering to black voters.
"Let's not be naive. Sen. Obama is running for president of the United States, and so he is in a constant battle to save his political life," said Kibibi Tyehimba, co-chair of the National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America. "In light of the demographics of this country, I don't think it's realistic to expect him to do anything other than what he's done."
But this is not a position Obama adopted just for the presidential campaign. He voiced the same concerns about reparations during his successful run for the Senate in 2004.
There's enough flexibility in the term "reparations" that Obama can oppose them and still have plenty of common ground with supporters.
The NAACP says reparations could take the form of government programs to help struggling people of all races. Efforts to improve schools in the inner city could also aid students in the mountains of West Virginia, said Hilary Shelton, director of the NAACP's Washington bureau.
"The solution could be broad and sweeping," Shelton said.
The National Urban League _ a group Obama addressed Saturday without mentioning the issue in his speech _ avoids the word "reparations" as too vague and highly charged. But the group advocates government action to close the gaps between white America and black America.
Urban League President Marc Morial said he expects his members to press Obama on how he intends to close those gaps and what action he would take in the first 100 days of his presidency.
"What steps should we take as a nation to alleviate the effects of racial exclusion and racial discrimination?" Morial asked.
The House voted this week to apologize for slavery. The resolution, which was approved on a voice vote, does not mention reparations, but past opponents have argued that an apology would increase pressure for concrete action.
Obama says an apology would be appropriate but not particularly helpful in improving the lives of black Americans. Reparations could also be a distraction, he said.
In a 2004 questionnaire, he told the NAACP, "I fear that reparations would be an excuse for some to say, 'We've paid our debt,' and to avoid the much harder work."
Taking questions Sunday at a conference of minority journalists, Obama said he would be willing to talk to American Indian leaders about an apology for the nation's treatment of their people.
Pressed for his position on apologizing to blacks or offering reparations, Obama said he was more interested in taking action to help people struggling to get by. Because many of them are minorities, he said, that would help the same people who would stand to benefit from reparations.
"If we have a program, for example, of universal health care, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because they're disproportionately uninsured," Obama said. "If we've got an agenda that says every child in America should get _ should be able to go to college, regardless of income, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because it's oftentimes our children who can't afford to go to college."
One reparations advocate, Vernellia Randall, a law professor at the University of Dayton, bluntly responded: "I think he's dead wrong."
She said aid to the poor in general won't close the gaps _ poor blacks would still trail poor whites, and middle-class blacks would still lag behind middle-class whites. Instead, assistance must be aimed directly at the people facing the after-effects of slavery and Jim Crow laws, she said.
"People say he can't run and get elected if he says those kinds of things," Randall said. "I'm like, well does that mean we're really not ready for a black president?"
This is a very good article because I always hear that African Americans NEED to stop complaining, but those people obviously do not know about America's history or don't care.
I agree with you. I always thought reparations should be in the form of a cash payment, but you have a point. $20,000 isn't enough. If you start offering free education and health, people will trace some of their ancestry to Africa. The land should be given back and/or the cash payment needs to be a lot more. Or maybe there should be a lifetime stipend.
I don't agree with this article. There needs to a form of compensation.
http://theweek.com/article/index/262097/sorry-conservatives-america-is-not-even-close-to-being-a-colorblind-country
Sorry, conservatives: America is not even close to being a colorblind country
Ta-Nehisi Coates' monumental essay on black reparations in The Atlantic demolishes the idea that the civil rights struggle is behind us
Published May 28, 2014, at 6:37 AM
Ours is not a post-racial society. Photo: (REUTERS/Carlo Allegri)
Last summer, the Supreme Court struck down part of the 1965 Voting Rights Act that required certain (mostly southern) states with a history of voting discrimination to get federal approval before changing their voting rules. "Our country has changed," Chief Justice John Roberts declared. Racial discrimination, according to Roberts, had subsided enough that it was unfair to burden the South with civil rights-era scrutiny.
Six years earlier, the court struck down voluntary school desegregation plans in Louisville and Seattle. Roberts famously chided that "the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."
To the court's conservatives, policymaking needed to catch up with all of the racial progress we have made. Never mind the ensuing proliferation of discriminatory voting laws, or the continued rise of school re-segregation. Policymaking needed to become colorblind.
Enter Ta-Nehisi Coates. In an essay in The Atlantic called "The Case for Reparations," Coates masterfully chronicles the weight of disadvantage thrust upon black Americans throughout U.S. history, from slavery to Jim Crow to redlining to subprime lending.
Coates' protagonist is a 90-year-old black Chicagoan named Clyde Ross. Like many African-Americans of his time, Ross was born to sharecroppers in the South before migrating north with dreams of owning a home. Finding himself redlined out of the government-backed financing offered to whites, Ross had to make contract payments to a land speculator at thousands of dollars above market prices — a wealth transfer from blacks facilitated by discriminatory public policy.
Coates knows that reparation payments to compensate for this sort of wealth loss probably won't happen, acknowledging in an email to his editor that the idea is "totally pie in the sky." He's after something bigger than a government payout anyway: He wants nothing short of "full acceptance of our collective biography and its consequences."
But by making a plausible case for reparations, Coates brings renewed attention to the legitimacy of other types of race-conscious public policy. Disrupting the narrative of steady American triumphalism over past injustice, Coates makes the colorblind posture of those like Chief Justice Roberts look a lot less tenable.
He does this in two significant ways. First, he blunts the argument that the victims and beneficiaries of public injustice have receded too far into the past to make either reparations or race-conscious policy necessary. Instead of centering the essay on the injustices of slavery, Coates focuses on living, breathing victims of government-sanctioned discrimination like Ross.
He also connects their plight to our present conditions, namely that discriminatory lending policies made it difficult for blacks to buy homes and accrue wealth. This leaves today's black families with a fraction of the household wealth of the average white family. With only shoestring wealth to draw on, the average black family making $100,000 today lives in the same kind of neighborhood as a white family making only $30,000.
Second, he contests the argument that we should not bear the burden of rectifying the abuses of our forebears. Coates asks us to own our whole history — both its triumphs and liabilities. Anything less, he tells us, is "patriotism à la carte. A nation outlives its generations."
Indeed, if a country is nothing more than the sum of our individual present selves, bearing no responsibility to account for past injustices, then how can we be responsible for mitigating injustices of the future like climate change? That kind of thinking runs contrary to how we conceive of our ties as a nation.
Coates' essay is the latest in a string of high-profile rebukes to those who are so eager to declare us a colorblind, post-racial society. At a commencement speech on Sunday, Attorney General Eric Holder said, "We must continue to take account of racial inequality, especially in its less obvious forms, and actively discuss ways to combat it."
Last month, Justice Sonia Sotomayor issued a much-discussed dissent in the affirmative action case Schuette v. BAMN, arguing that "the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to speak openly and candidly on the subject of race, and to apply the Constitution with eyes open to the unfortunate effects of centuries of racial discrimination."
What would this kind of race-consciousness look like? Jamelle Bouie says that it means targeting key sources of racial inequality, such as education, housing, criminal justice, and income inequality.
But it also means changing how we talk about race and public policy. We must acknowledge the primacy of structural forces like discriminatory policies and economic displacement in causing our racial inequities. This means discarding analyses that blame urban poverty on "cultural anarchy" like unwed mothers and jobless men. These latter phenomena are mere symptoms of the problem. Coates shows us the disease.
If we come to terms with our history and understand how it bears upon our present, colorblindness can no longer be an option. Perhaps the most important reparation we can pay is to keep our eyes open to race rather than feigning blindness. Only a few generations removed from sharecropping and redlining, the harms are still very much with us. To confront these harms, our policymaking must, as Coates says, accept our collective biography — and its consequences.
http://theweek.com/article/index/262097/sorry-conservatives-america-is-not-even-close-to-being-a-colorblind-country
Sorry, conservatives: America is not even close to being a colorblind country
Ta-Nehisi Coates' monumental essay on black reparations in The Atlantic demolishes the idea that the civil rights struggle is behind us
Published May 28, 2014, at 6:37 AM
Ours is not a post-racial society. Photo: (REUTERS/Carlo Allegri)
Last summer, the Supreme Court struck down part of the 1965 Voting Rights Act that required certain (mostly southern) states with a history of voting discrimination to get federal approval before changing their voting rules. "Our country has changed," Chief Justice John Roberts declared. Racial discrimination, according to Roberts, had subsided enough that it was unfair to burden the South with civil rights-era scrutiny.
Six years earlier, the court struck down voluntary school desegregation plans in Louisville and Seattle. Roberts famously chided that "the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race."
To the court's conservatives, policymaking needed to catch up with all of the racial progress we have made. Never mind the ensuing proliferation of discriminatory voting laws, or the continued rise of school re-segregation. Policymaking needed to become colorblind.
Enter Ta-Nehisi Coates. In an essay in The Atlantic called "The Case for Reparations," Coates masterfully chronicles the weight of disadvantage thrust upon black Americans throughout U.S. history, from slavery to Jim Crow to redlining to subprime lending.
Coates' protagonist is a 90-year-old black Chicagoan named Clyde Ross. Like many African-Americans of his time, Ross was born to sharecroppers in the South before migrating north with dreams of owning a home. Finding himself redlined out of the government-backed financing offered to whites, Ross had to make contract payments to a land speculator at thousands of dollars above market prices — a wealth transfer from blacks facilitated by discriminatory public policy.
Coates knows that reparation payments to compensate for this sort of wealth loss probably won't happen, acknowledging in an email to his editor that the idea is "totally pie in the sky." He's after something bigger than a government payout anyway: He wants nothing short of "full acceptance of our collective biography and its consequences."
But by making a plausible case for reparations, Coates brings renewed attention to the legitimacy of other types of race-conscious public policy. Disrupting the narrative of steady American triumphalism over past injustice, Coates makes the colorblind posture of those like Chief Justice Roberts look a lot less tenable.
He does this in two significant ways. First, he blunts the argument that the victims and beneficiaries of public injustice have receded too far into the past to make either reparations or race-conscious policy necessary. Instead of centering the essay on the injustices of slavery, Coates focuses on living, breathing victims of government-sanctioned discrimination like Ross.
He also connects their plight to our present conditions, namely that discriminatory lending policies made it difficult for blacks to buy homes and accrue wealth. This leaves today's black families with a fraction of the household wealth of the average white family. With only shoestring wealth to draw on, the average black family making $100,000 today lives in the same kind of neighborhood as a white family making only $30,000.
Second, he contests the argument that we should not bear the burden of rectifying the abuses of our forebears. Coates asks us to own our whole history — both its triumphs and liabilities. Anything less, he tells us, is "patriotism à la carte. A nation outlives its generations."
Indeed, if a country is nothing more than the sum of our individual present selves, bearing no responsibility to account for past injustices, then how can we be responsible for mitigating injustices of the future like climate change? That kind of thinking runs contrary to how we conceive of our ties as a nation.
Coates' essay is the latest in a string of high-profile rebukes to those who are so eager to declare us a colorblind, post-racial society. At a commencement speech on Sunday, Attorney General Eric Holder said, "We must continue to take account of racial inequality, especially in its less obvious forms, and actively discuss ways to combat it."
Last month, Justice Sonia Sotomayor issued a much-discussed dissent in the affirmative action case Schuette v. BAMN, arguing that "the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to speak openly and candidly on the subject of race, and to apply the Constitution with eyes open to the unfortunate effects of centuries of racial discrimination."
What would this kind of race-consciousness look like? Jamelle Bouie says that it means targeting key sources of racial inequality, such as education, housing, criminal justice, and income inequality.
But it also means changing how we talk about race and public policy. We must acknowledge the primacy of structural forces like discriminatory policies and economic displacement in causing our racial inequities. This means discarding analyses that blame urban poverty on "cultural anarchy" like unwed mothers and jobless men. These latter phenomena are mere symptoms of the problem. Coates shows us the disease.
If we come to terms with our history and understand how it bears upon our present, colorblindness can no longer be an option. Perhaps the most important reparation we can pay is to keep our eyes open to race rather than feigning blindness. Only a few generations removed from sharecropping and redlining, the harms are still very much with us. To confront these harms, our policymaking must, as Coates says, accept our collective biography — and its consequences.
once again..good drop
Great post with strong arguments for reparations. I hope we get there maybe by our next generation.
I've noticed reparations always seems to be a subject many want to talk about. Fatten the pockets I hear ya.... We all have bigger fish to fry.
Look at what's happening politically in this country we need to address those who've been elected to office and remove them. If those maintaining political control aren't removed from office, reparations will be the least of our worries. In fact they are not our biggest concerns presently.
These people don't want average everyday non-whites to even exist in the future, their actions speak for themselves. This is why their agenda is strictly attack the elderly, the poor, education programs, food/breakfast programs, Social Security and or Obamacare and other medical programs. These programs will benefit the less affluent.
Why? Because the people who would benefit most from these programs are not likely to vote republican. So they feel if your not for us you against us.
Just curious, how many took the time to vote last week? I only ask because the likelihood of getting reparations with both Congress and the Supreme Court siding with the rich is slim at best. My thing is this if we don't pressure those in office we get nothing. Elected officials are there to serve us and our best interest. We do not elect officials to follow their own agenda. Until we become more involved politically expect nothing. What I'm saying is first things first.
I've noticed reparations always seems to be a subject many want to talk about. Fatten the pockets I hear ya.... We all have bigger fish to fry.
Look at what's happening politically in this country we need to address those who've been elected to office and remove them. If those maintaining political control aren't removed from office, reparations will be the least of our worries. In fact they are not our biggest concerns presently.
These people don't want average everyday non-whites to even exist in the future, their actions speak for themselves. This is why their agenda is strictly attack the elderly, the poor, education programs, food/breakfast programs, Social Security and or Obamacare and other medical programs. These programs will benefit the less affluent.
Why? Because the people who would benefit most from these programs are not likely to vote republican. So they feel if your not for us you against us.
Just curious, how many took the time to vote last week? I only ask because the likelihood of getting reparations with both Congress and the Supreme Court siding with the rich is slim at best. My thing is this if we don't pressure those in office we get nothing. Elected officials are there to serve us and our best interest. We do not elect officials to follow their own agenda. Until we become more involved politically expect nothing. What I'm saying is first things first.
Yep. The entire history of this country is tied to slavery. The founding founders themselves owned slaves as they wrote the Declaration of Independence. Yet, congress doesn't want to touch it. We know why. They have nothing to gain from it.
This say's it all....
"The Declaration of Independence"
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies (Black People); and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
Until they take this part of The Constitution,they say they love so much, seriously! All the rest is total bullshit and white people know it!
"The Declaration of Independence"
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies (Black People); and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
Until they take this part of The Constitution,they say they love so much, seriously! All the rest is total bullshit and white people know it!
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First of all, white America ain't givin' Black America sh!t, no matter how legal or how righteous it may be.
With that being said, the article and interview are "top shelf" on point.
This discussion actually ties into the tread, that should be a sticky as well, about all the levels of injustice since slavery that have made us believe it's us...when it's really them, rigging the game even MORE in their favor.
Simple as that...
, 'cause you see it...
I knew this story, I knew stories like this, but to read a personal account, ran me THIRTY EIGHT hot!
I was waitin' on you kefta, let's start with the community first. We live in the digital era. Once little cells and zip codes in America catch on, it'll catch fire globally.
Yeah, the politics of this bish is a mofo. I want our OWN politicians, our OWN city government, and our OWN police force.
With that being said, the article and interview are "top shelf" on point.
This discussion actually ties into the tread, that should be a sticky as well, about all the levels of injustice since slavery that have made us believe it's us...when it's really them, rigging the game even MORE in their favor.
It looks like that happened and it should be longer than 2 pages at 3 weeks out from being posted.
I can't understand for the life of me why this thread STILL is not a sticky and the world economy for white people would tank, but non-white people would finally do what we have always done: make the best out of what nature has given us, make sure everybody that is doing right has, and put back into Mother Earth what we use.I figured this thread would be a sticky by now...I read the article yesterday at work..so much knowledge dropped in that article...Bomani Jones was on twitter going OFF about that article yesterday....
I'm not a math person...but including interest..just in America..if each black person were paid what they were owed...we're looking at quadrillion..the price is steep...then you figure other countries including Brazil...the world economy would tank...
Simple as that...
.and boom goes the dynamite.
I said this YEARS ago, EXACTLY, give me all the access that I should have had from day one of landing here, as the white man did and we GOOD! If I made it this far, without all the pieces to the game, just that knowledge/access trumps cash ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!
Minus the insecurity.
Now, we already need to do that, reparations or not, but that access would make it flow like milk and honey.
Tell it!
Added to 2015's book list...
This is a must read for anyone interested in the topic. I found this book very comprehensive and relatively easy to understand.
"This short, definitive work regards the debate over reparations from the 1700s to the present, examining the arguments on both sides of the current debate. Taking us inside litigation and legislatures past and present, examining failed and successful lawsuits, and reparations actions by legislatures, newspapers, schools, and businesses, including apologies and truth commissions, this book offers a valuable historical and legal perspective for reparations advocates and critics alike."
Oh yeah, I see you
, 'cause you see it...I have bragged on how the more I learn about their atrocities towards us, the more I understand why they do what they do and I no longer get angry, well...every rule got its exception.
I knew this story, I knew stories like this, but to read a personal account, ran me THIRTY EIGHT hot!
I was waitin' on you kefta, let's start with the community first. We live in the digital era. Once little cells and zip codes in America catch on, it'll catch fire globally.If this went down, you know how many people would "find" a black ancestor?
Well, folks, thanks for coming out, god bless, and good night...and don't let the do' hit ya on the way out!/ETHER
You're on to something. We just have to do what we have always done, form or own, SUPPORT IT, and "keep it quiet."
I think there is a fundamental ideal here that needs to happen before any reparations are paid.
Before reparations are received from America, we have to own to America, and that is no easy task.
Jews have had the upper hand by strategically placing their people in positions of great importance to further their cause and have done just that.
From banking to government, to education to healthcare, to entertainment to media, and any field of endeavour that controls daily living and well being, they have monopolised the game and have paid themselves exorbitantly through these mediums.
This is why they can send billions upon billions back to Israel without blinking.
Want money paid back? Ditch the 40 acres and mule talk and figure out how to overthrow these mediums.
That requires UNITY.
Disgusting!
Yeah, the politics of this bish is a mofo. I want our OWN politicians, our OWN city government, and our OWN police force.
Lattimore did beat the shit out of this thread.
How much is America worth...well how much was america worth at it's height?
Add up everything they've made everything they own and that might begin to make up for what we're owed
we built this fucking nation.
we did it.
A historic all-Black town wants reparations to rebuild as a ‘safe haven’
Once thriving, Tullahassee, Okla., was ravaged by policies that divested Black communities
By Emmanuel Felton
April 1, 2022 at 6:00 a.m. EDT