Thanks to "Dabbing," It Is Possible to Overdose on Marijuana

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"Marijuana is perfectly safe" is one of the marijuana legalization movement's most widely accepted (and most important) truisms.




Comical estimations of what would constitute a "lethal dose" -- such as orally consuming more marijuana than the stomach can physically hold -- lead to the also-accepted truism that it's impossible to overdose on marijuana.




That may not be true.




With high-dosage edibles, it's easy to become "uncomfortably high," and with a recent trend called "dabbing," it's also easy to become so high that the user passes out. And passing out leads to the only recorded method of marijuana-related death.


"Dabbing" is a simple concept: a small amount of super-high concentrate -- hash oil, wax, or another compound where so much of the marijuana plant's plant material is removed that what's left is between 50-to-80 percent active ingredients, a sort of grain alcohol to a bud's wine -- is put on a heated surface. A puff of smoke is emitted, and then the user inhales the entire puff of super-concentrated smoke.

The effects are immediate -- and they're intense. Folks who have used cannabis daily for 30 years report, "I am high again!" Other people not so used to the magic plant usually need to sit down for a minute or two before they can talk again. In other words, "dabbing" is a way to ingest a lot of medicine very quickly -- and a way to get really fucked up.

It also may be dangerous, as California NORML's Dale Gieringer writes in a recent letter to O'Shaughnessy's, the marijuana medical journal published by veteran journalist Fred Gardner.

"In the past couple of years, there have been repeated occasions in which 911 teams have had to be called in due to cannabis overdoses," Gieringer writes, going on to describe people passing out from high-concentrates at High Times Cannabis Cups in LA. The most authenticated record of someone dying from marijuana use, by the way? A man who became so incredibly high on hashish he passed out -- and then died after hitting his head on a hard floor.

"Things like this never happened until the popularization of hash oil in recent years," he adds. "The dangers are dire enough to merit a special warning."

Most cannabis clubs in San Francisco don't allow on-site consumption anymore -- a by-product of newly opened dispensaries wishing to make a concession, any concession, in order to appease wary neighbors and win a permit, and also the federal Justice Department's oddly selective crackdown, which shuttered popular smoking lounges at the Vapor Room and at HopeNet. But some that do also offer "dab bars" -- where patients can have a couple mind-numbing, sense-paralyzing hits as a "thank you."

This practice, while defensible for anyone who thinks marijuana prohibition should end, is hardly medical except for the sickest patients or those with the highest of tolerances. It also carries one more hidden danger -- butane poisoning.

There are more concentrated forms of cannabis available on the market today than ever before -- hashes, oils, waxes, a concoction called "budder," glass, you name it. It's surmised that a glut on the market led to this -- there was too many flowers and too much bud than could be sold, and like many other commodities, a repacking or repurposing was necessary in order to find market value -- and it's also led to more of a dangerous chemical extraction process.

In order to separate the psychoactive components from the plant material, some kind of extraction process is required. A common process is "butane extraction."

"When cannabis plant material is drenched in butane, its oils dissolve and can be captured in a container," Dr. Jeffrey Hergenrather explains. "Instantaneously, the butane evaporates leaving only the oil behind."

Sounds ok, but not only is this process illegal, it can also leave behind neurotoxins in your cannabis. If it smells like lighter fluid, don't smoke it, Hergenrather writes -- but it may not smell that bad, and still contain neurotoxins.

So dab away -- but realize when you smoke yourself stupid, you may be literally doing so.

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2013/03/medical_marijuana_overdose_dabbing.php








 
The first few minutes after taking a dab makes me feel somewhat like I've taken acid. It gets you super fucked up.

I prefer to smoke wax in a g-pen. Smoking wax using a bong is just too powerful for me.



 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: that article is complete bullshit
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I didn't even read the article but the title is accurate. I was living in the Bay Area for about a year and used to frequent the weed clubs. Niggas had the dab setup and were giving free hits for every $50 spent. I had no clue how strong the shit was but I almost passed out on one fucking hit (had to sit and catch my breath). I told these niggas they need to educate people about how strong the shit is before they give free hits. So the next week im in there, there's a white boy literally passed out with his eyes rolling back in his head. I scolded these niggas about this shit again and they removed the setup. Also, I had a homie who smokes to stop seizures and when I gave him a hit off my vape pen it actually brought a seizure on. You cats can laugh, but this hash shit is no fucking joke. Super potent, one hit quit weed is only about 20 - 25% THC and thats very very rare. Hash can get into the 80's and even 90's percent THC. Do the math. Also, if you build up a tolerance to it you'll never smoke regular tree's again because it wont do shit for you. Be warned.....
 
Oh shit, read the article and it echoes what I said. Please dont sleep on this shit. And for all you cats saying its bullshit, I GUARANTEE you haven't done it yet.
 
Man just hurry up and get that shit to GA.

Its already there, you just dont have a plug yet. And while we would cop a gram of the shit for 20-60 in the Bay you'd be looking at 75-150 for a G there.

You have to understand a gram of wax is like 4 or 5 grams of trees.
 
Dabbing can definitely be dangerous but equating marijuana to dabbing is someone with an agenda and is mildly irresponsible.

The THC levels are different.
 
Dabbing can definitely be dangerous but equating marijuana to dabbing is someone with an agenda and is mildly irresponsible.

The THC levels are different.

but like you can't have crack without first having cocaine.

you can't have dab without first having the weed.
 
Pm if you got the plugs on the wax.. Its dry out here in ny

man if you get that let me know...i been tryin to get this shit too

Keep in mind the penalties are stiff for this shit.....Even in Cali just for making Butane purged wax you are looking at up to 7 years I think. God only knows what the penalties are in other states where weed isnt legal. This is one of those things you think you want to play with, but you really dont.

Background: I went to Cali being a heavy, heavy smoker. I went and tried all the best strains in the bay (grapes, cookies, plat. OG, all that shit). It wasnt till after like 6 months there or smoking top shelf that I tried wax and it almost put me out.

We need more heads in this thread who actually tried this shit to chime in and talk about its dangers.
 
From NORML in California:

Hash & Concentrates
Possession 1 year $ 500
Unauthorized manufacture 16 mos - 3 years $ 500
Chemical manufacture 3 - 7 years $ 50,000



For regular floweres if you get caught with an ounce or under its a fucking ticket (if you dont have a medical marijuana card).

Think....why would the penalties be so tough if this shit wasnt a serious problem?
 
For anyone wanting to try concentrates, edibles are the way to go. This way you can buy a big ass cookie and break a small piece off and wait an hour for the effects to pace yourself. You never know what you're getting with Wax, unless you go to a dispensary that actually does legit testing to tell you whether its been purged correctly or not and what the THC level is.
 
eljefe wrote that article.

Have you tried dabbing hash or even a vape pen? I'm an OG bro.....been on here since 2005, just took a break and forgot my old password. I have no agenda other than to help out niggas who have no clue about this shit.

It reminds me of molly....how everyone is fucking with molly, yet when the police confiscate the shit 80% of it doesnt even have MDMA in it. This is the age of hyper drug cycles and if you arent careful you might end up ruining your life....

Book a trip to cali and go take a huge dab and come back and report, rookie.

And I still want to see some niggas who have actually done the shit to chime in.
 
How do you equate passing out to death? You can go to a fucking Jijitsu class and get choked out and nobody's gonna call an ambulance. If this is worst weed will do, it's still nowhere near as fucked up as the next illegal drug.
 
How do you equate passing out to death? You can go to a fucking Jijitsu class and get choked out and nobody's gonna call an ambulance. If this is worst weed will do, it's still nowhere near as fucked up as the next illegal drug.

Dude I spoke about who had seizures...that could definitely spell death under the right circumstances. White boy with his eyes rolling in the back of his head also. Keep in mind these are all supervised...

What happens when you have another underlying medical condition you arent even aware of and you take a big hit of some shit you thought was 50% but is really 90%? I guarantee you there will be deaths.

Also if the butane isnt purged correctly and you inhale lighter fluid you can DEFINITELY die.

And all you non MMJ state niggas who get your hands on it will be getting the badly purged shit, bc everyone in the MMJ states wont touch it.

Thats why even in Cali you cant buy it off the street (unless you're an idiot). You gotta go to the dispensaries and get taxed, its the only way to stay safe. And even some low budget dispensaries will lie about testing.
 
I don't see the problem. Let these dumb mufuckas keep finding "super" ways to get high so they can thin the herd. I'll stick to the regular ole roll it up and light it or bong hits. This is stupid.
 
but like you can't have crack without first having cocaine.

you can't have dab without first having the weed.
You sound like a person with an agenda.

If you're going to speak on the dangers of dabbing, speak on the dangers of the open production method or the dangers of inhaling butane.

A dabbing death does not equal a THC related death. Don't be irresponsible, make the correct distinctions.
 
I smoke and help make wax all the time. It doesnt make you pass out or do anything more than a blunt would.

What was wrong with a perfectly rolled swisher :smh:

It takes 10 hits of the blunt to do what 1 super smooth hit of Wax / Butter can do. Saves on the lungs.
 
I smoke and help make wax all the time. It doesnt make you pass out or do anything more than a blunt would.



It takes 10 hits of the blunt to do what 1 super smooth hit of Wax / Butter can do. Saves on the lungs.

I think you said it yourself here. I dont know many heads who are comfy with 10 hits off a blunt at once. Shit, when you smoke top shelf you are usually high as a kite after a couple hits off a blunt anyway.

And there a difference between using vape pen and dabbing. Dabbing is exponentially stronger than hitting a pen.

This is why I wanted people who have actually smoked the shit to give an opinion.
 
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I'm dyin'.....:lol: Roscoe gonna be known was that nigga. 20 years from now we gonna be like you remember when Roscoe hit that shit and passed the fuck out? :lol:
 
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Look how the chick looking tho! Like "this nigga here ain't even about this life...WATCH." :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Rule #1: If the shit requires BUTANE to get high, stay away from that shit. Who the fuck got time to fuck with some butane?:confused::eek::lol:
 
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