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Here are the catches in Verizon's unlimited data plan

You can't ever read the fine print too carefully, and that is also the case with Verizon's new unlimited data plan.

The $80 unlimited plan — or, to phrase it more accurately, “unmetered” plan — that Verizon Wireless rolled out Sunday features fewer carve-outs and restrictions than comparable offerings from AT&T and Sprint, as well as one from T-Mobile, which has responded to Verizon by removing restrictions on hotspot use and video streaming.

To sum up: Verizon is offering unlimited data, talking and texting for a single line, for $80 a month. That's before taxes and fees, which typically inflate the bil.

Its fine print contains qualifications that deserve a closer look.

Heavy users
— The first is the theoretical threshold at which your service may slow. As Verizon’s frequently-asked-questions page warns, racking up 22 gigabytes of data on a line (not across all devices on your account) may lead the company to “prioritize usage behind other customers during network congestion.”

That’s not a hard cutoff or one you’re stuck with for the rest of the month, and user reports of other carriers’ “deprioritization” policies suggest the effects aren’t that painful.

Hot spot limit
— Verizon’s unlimited plan imposes a secondary limit on tethering, or using the phone as a portable WiFi hotspot to share its connectivity with another device. You get 10 GB a month of LTE tethering — per line, not account.

After that, your tethering drops to 3G speeds, which Verizon corporate-communications director Kelly Crummey said means a minimum of 600 kilobits per second.

Third-party tests suggest the actual speed may be slightly higher: The research firm OpenSignal’s new report on U.S. mobile networks found VzW 3G download speeds averaged just 850 kbps, a twentieth of its LTE-download average. In other words, very slow.

Effective Friday, T-Mobile’s $70-including-taxes-and-fees unlimited plan—the only one sold to new subscribers—will also include 10 GB of LTE hotspot sharing. Today, it constrains that to 3G speeds, which OpenSignal found averaged 4 Mbps. T-Mobile will also let subscribers opt out of having streaming video limited to “480p” DVD-grade resolution.

Pricing confusion
— The pricing of Verizon's new deal can be confusing as well. Verizon usually lists rates exclusive of a $20 line-access charge, but it folds that cost into the advertised price of its unlimited plan: $80 for one device, $140 for two, $162 for three or $180 for four.

The result: Glancing at the numbers on Verizon’s site can lead one to think that its “$70” 8 GB plan costs less than the unlimited plan, when in reality that 8GB plan will run you $90.

Conversely, I’ve seen some readers assume the new unlimited plan really adds up to $100 on one device, more than the current $95 cost of the unlimited plan Verizon stopped selling in 2011.

That $95 cost factors in the cheapest combination of voice minutes and texting available then, plus a $20 price hike imposed on the old unlimited deal last year. Since that option excludes tethering, you should dump it unless you somehow burn through over 22 GB a month on your phone alone.

Verizon’s advertised prices for its new plan also assumes you’ll set up automatic payments. That’s not an unusual request, but Verizon further requires you to make those payments from a checking account or a debit card--meaning you can’t put them on a rewards-earning or cash-back credit card.

“The majority of our customers use checks and debit cards to pay for their monthly bills,” said Crummey, the Verizon spokeswoman.

The unlimited plan, unlike others, also requires giving up existing employer and educational discounts. But Verizon’s 15% military and veterans discount still applies, Crummey said.

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Verizon is launching an 'unlimited' data plan for the first time in more than 5 years

  • said on Sunday it will launch an unlimited LTE data plan, called Verizon Unlimited, on Monday. The plan starts at $80 a month for one line or $45 a line for a group of four on smartphones or tablets. Both new and existing subscribers can sign up.

    The move marks the first time in more than five years that Verizon, the nation's largest carrier in terms of total subscribers, will have an unlimited offering. The carrier recently started forcing heavy users who had stayed on old unlimited plans to move to new offerings.

    Executives at the company have downplayed the need for unlimited plans in recent months, too, though the carrier started allowing customers last fall to pay for unlimited usage in 30- and 60-minute increments.

    The new plan comes on the heels of other renewed and aggressive pushes into unlimited data from rival carriers, most notably T-Mobile, which has grown in recent months while Verizon's mobile division has slowed, and in August replaced all its existing mobile plans in favor of one unlimited offering called T-Mobile One.

    T-Mobile's plan has faced criticism, however, for downgrading all video streams to a non-high-definition resolution unless subscribers pay an extra $15. It also does not allow subscribers to access LTE speeds when using their phones as a mobile internet hotspot by default.

    Verizon appears to be directly going after those complaints. The carrier says its unlimited plan allows users to stream video at an "HD" resolution and that it includes up to 10 GB of LTE mobile hotspot data before cutting that to 3G speeds. The carrier did not specify whether it allows videos to stream above a 720p resolution, the minimum threshold for HD video, though.

    Verizon says the plan also provides unlimited calling and texting to Canada and Mexico, along with 500 MB a day of LTE data in those countries. A $10-a-day pass allows for that same amount of data outside of North America.

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    Verizon is keeping other tiered data plans available alongside the new unlimited plan, including a 5 GB a month offering, as well as its S, M, and L plans. Currently, those plans go from $35 a month for 2 GB of LTE data to $70 a month for 8GB of data. Verizon previously offered plans with larger data buckets on its site, but those will now only be available in stores or over the phone.

    The $80-a-month starting point makes Verizon's unlimited plan costlier than T-Mobile One, which starts at $70 a month for a single line, and Sprint's unlimited data plan, which normally costs $60 a month. But it is less expensive than AT&T's unlimited plan, which starts at $100 a month and only comes bundled with a subscription to the carrier's DirecTV or U-Verse services.

    Like some of those rival offerings, Verizon's plan requires you to enroll in auto-billing to get the lowest price possible. While its four-line group plan is $45 a month ($180 total), Verizon says a two-line plan costs $70 a month per line ($140 total), while a three-line plan costs $54 a month per line ($162 total).

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    T-Mobile US CEO John Legere speaks at the 2013 Consumer Electronics Show.David Becker/Getty Images





    Verizon is still generally seen as having the fastest and most widely available network in the US, though a recent study from the mobile-analytics firm OpenSignal found that T-Mobile has largely caught up when it comes to average speeds.

    In any case, Verizon's new plan comes with the same caveat as every other unlimited offering: It's not technically unlimited. Verizon says any line that uses more than 22 GB of mobile data in a month may see its data "prioritized" behind other customers in times of network congestion. T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T warn of similar limits, too.

    Still, that allotment should be enough for most people and would seem to give Verizon a plan it can sell to hungrier users in an increasingly data-heavy time.
 
Verizon Unlimited launches tomorrow; $45 a line for family of four, streaming HD video
Posted: 12 Feb 2017, 17:45, by Alan F.


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The new plan also features unlimited mobile hotspot usage, although only the first 10GB is at 4G LTE speeds. After that, you will be connected at 3G speeds. If you are a Verizon customer, this could be the plan that you've wanted regardless of CFO Fran Shammo's comments last year. The executive said back in September that its customers don't need unlimited data. Perhaps Verizon finally realized that the business has changed and that its customers generally want unlimited data. Now, it is up to Verizon customers to show that the carrier did the right thing by signing up for the service.

Anyone using more than 22GB of data in a month could find themselves waiting at the back of the line during periods of heavy traffic. As Verizon says, it "may prioritize usage behind other customers in the event of network congestion." And the good ol' 5GB, S, M, and L Verizon plans are still available.
"We’ve built our network so we can manage all the activity customers undertake. Everything we’ve done is to provide the best experience on the best network – and we’ve built it for the future, not just for today. We also fundamentally want you to have more choice. We’re not limiting you to a single plan. If you don’t need unlimited data, we still have 5 GB, S, M, and L Verizon plans that are perfect for you."-Ronan Dunne, president,Verizon Wireless
 
I think me and the wife gonna finally make the jump from sprint.

I have enjoyed unlimited data for well over a decade. However the speed here in Birmingham never caught up to everyone else.

Grabbing 2 Note 5's off Ebay so when the Note 8 drops I'm not stuck.
 
thats' why i love my grandfathered plan on t-mobile it's originally $50 for unlimited then $20 bucks more for no throttled unlimited 4g LTE data and 14GB LTE Data for tethering. it's better then the new plan t-mobile just introduced
 
I think me and the wife gonna finally make the jump from sprint.

I have enjoyed unlimited data for well over a decade. However the speed here in Birmingham never caught up to everyone else.

Grabbing 2 Note 5's off Ebay so when the Note 8 drops I'm not stuck.

are those ebay phones trust worthy?
 
i'll stick with Project Fi. No unlimited data, but when you use less than 1gb a month, why would you need it. Plus my bill is less than $50 per month.
 
i'll stick with Project Fi. No unlimited data, but when you use less than 1gb a month, why would you need it. Plus my bill is less than $50 per month.
Idk what you do for a living but it must have wifi available to you

No one I could use less than 1gb a month. I wish I could

You have a Nexus?
 
Idk what you do for a living but it must have wifi available to you

No one I could use less than 1gb a month. I wish I could

You have a Nexus?
pixel. everywhere i go, there is wifi. gym, work, parks. i have brighthouse cable (NKA Spectrum) they have hotspots all over tampa and anywhere else they have service. Its free to use. So when ever i am out, if i am close to a hotspot, my phone will connect to it.

the kicker is, i get my work email on my phone, so my job gives me $45 a month towards that. So i basically pay about $5 to 15 a month out of pocket.
 
It's a fucking joke.

Called yesterday and they told me it'll be 180 for my 2 lines

And my discount I get through my employer doesn't apply

I went to the Verizon website the other day and it says i currently have the 18GB XXL plan for $100 and if i wanted to switch to the unlimited plan it would be $11o. Let me go read the fine print
 
I went to the Verizon website the other day and it says i currently have the 18GB XXL plan for $100 and if i wanted to switch to the unlimited plan it would be $11o. Let me go read the fine print
Call them up! Dont trust the website!

I have the 16gb plan and it told me the unlimited would cost LESS THAN my current plan
 
pixel. everywhere i go, there is wifi. gym, work, parks. i have brighthouse cable (NKA Spectrum) they have hotspots all over tampa and anywhere else they have service. Its free to use. So when ever i am out, if i am close to a hotspot, my phone will connect to it.

the kicker is, i get my work email on my phone, so my job gives me $45 a month towards that. So i basically pay about $5 to 15 a month out of pocket.
Yeah you're straight!

How do you like that Pixel?
 
Yeah you're straight!

How do you like that Pixel?
real nice so far. Camera is great. I never really took pics with my other devices, but with this phone, i find myself taking pics of everything, just to check the quality. OS is snappy, no freezing or lagging. My nexus 5x would lag all the time when i had too many apps running. This phone, i dont even have to pay attention to whats open anymore. Sound is much improved and the batter lasts all day. I get up at 4:30am, use it in the gym all while connected to wifi and bluetooth (watch and headphones), plus my weight lifting app running in the background and syncing to my watch. After about an hour, i'm only down to about 85%. I dont charge my phone until about 9 at night.

and nah, i didnt pay full price for it. The 5x had issues that LG was aware of. Certain models kept bootlooping. They issued a statement that they didnt have the hardware to fix it, so they were giving full refunds. I used that towards my pixel purchase.
 
I got 8 GB for 2 lines for $120 after taxes and fees...I'm staying put for awhile. If we go over more than once?? then I will definitely switch.
How da fuck you have 2 lies and don't use 8 gig

I just checked mine and my 65 Ur old mom used 27 gig lol

My entire plan of 6 lines used 104GB
 
Verizon further requires you to make those payments from a checking account or a debit card--meaning you can’t put them on a rewards-earning or cash-back credit card.

“The majority of our customers use checks and debit cards to pay for their monthly bills,” said Crummey, the Verizon spokeswoman.

The unlimited plan, unlike others, also requires giving up existing employer and educational discounts. But Verizon’s 15% military and veterans discount still applies, Crummey said.

These are the two deal-breakers to me; I only do auto-pay for bills I can put on a credit card (which I pay off every month); that way if/when they fuck up, it's the credit card's money that's at stake until the issue is resolved, not mine.
 
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Wi-Fi

in the house in the office and in the street with Optimum
I wouldn't dream of connecting to wifi in my office...

My surfing habits are Ignat to say the least.

The cable wifi shit seems real set up ish too.

More power to you,.glad.you found seem that works for you
 
I wouldn't dream of connecting to wifi in my office...

My surfing habits are Ignat to say the least.

The cable wifi shit seems real set up ish too.

More power to you,.glad.you found seem that works for you

damn where you surfing?!?!?! :lol:

I really don't much surfing outside home anyway.

most of the music and podcasts are SAVED to my phone and/or tablet.

the RARE places I have to actually use my bandwidth, its all good.

And I just got a new router and modem set up thanks to bgol tech team so I am GOLDEN at home.

I got free NBA League Pass, NFL etc on my phone too and it doesn't count against my limit.
 
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